Dropping down to us next season

[22A]

Currently Burnley have improved. Everton, Newcastle and Leeds are all in danger of being relegated along with Watford & Norwich.

If one of the "bigger" clubs is to come down, who'd you prefer and why.

If it was Newcastle or Leeds, the majority of game would be televised because that what Sky did last time.  I'd like Everton to come down because they are perceived to be "one of the big boys" and secondly, a founder member of the Prem.

Over to you for your thoughts....

[Ska Junkie]

On current form, you would think Newcastle are pulling clear meaning Leeds and Everton are in danger, If Leeds get a new Manager 'bounce', it could just be Everton staring down the barrel.

As I've family in Liverpool that are all mad keen Evertonians, I would like to see them survive but it may be their time to drop and regroup prior to moving into their new stadium.

personally, I think Brentford are coming back down.

Norwich, Watford and Brentford. That's straight back down for all 3 innit?

Edited February 27, 2022 by Ska Junkie

[exAtyeoMax]

3 minutes ago, 22A said:

Currently Burnley have improved. Everton, Newcastle and Leeds are all in danger of being relegated along with Watford & Norwich.

If one of the "bigger" clubs is to come down, who'd you prefer and why.

If it was Newcastle or Leeds, the majority of game would be televised because that what Sky did last time.  I'd like Everton to come down because they are perceived to be "one of the big boys" and secondly, a founder member of the Prem.

Over to you for your thoughts....

Everton. I haven't been to their ground. I haven't been to Burnley or Newcastle but they've been in the Championship recently.

[And Its Smith]

Everton please 

[Silvio Dante]

10 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

On current form, you would think Newcastle are pulling clear meaning Leeds and Everton are in danger, If Leeds get a new Manager 'bounce', it could just be Everton staring down the barrel.

As I've family in Liverpool that are all mad keen Evertonians, I would like to see them survive but it may be their time to drop and regroup prior to moving into their new stadium.

personally, I think Brentford are coming back down.

Norwich, Watford and Brentford. That's straight back down for all 3 innit?

I’d agree with the Brentford shout here. I think Watford and Norwich are nailed on, and it’s between Leeds and Brentford for the last place for me. In terms of “like” to go down, I’d like it to be Leeds, because they are just bloody annoying, but think the Bees are in as bad a tailspin 

[Ska Junkie]

2 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

I’d agree with the Brentford shout here. I think Watford and Norwich are nailed on, and it’s between Leeds and Brentford for the last place for me. In terms of “like” to go down, I’d like it to be Leeds, because they are just bloody annoying, but think the Bees are in as bad a tailspin 

I would, sadly, say Everton should be added to the other 2 Silvio, new Manager and still crap.

Edited February 27, 2022 by Ska Junkie

[Loosey Boy]

Everton please

[Red-Robbo]

12 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Everton. I haven't been to their ground. I haven't been to Burnley or Newcastle but they've been in the Championship recently.

 

Ditto.

I have a vague memory of them beating us in a cup game at the Gate early 2000s, but I don't think I've seen us play them in the league. 

[candygram for mongo]

I would be really happy if Leeds came down but then we’d have to put up with their mega annoying fans again

[Redstart]

Everton - think Lampard is massively overrated and he's already spunked £40m on Dele Ali. Love to see em in the Championship

[BCFCGav]

Always happy to see some Leeds tears. Plus I’m yet to do Elland Road, a big one I need to tick off.

[And Its Smith]

1 minute ago, Redstart said:

Everton - think Lampard is massively overrated and he's already spunked £40m on Dele Ali. Love to see em in the Championship

They’ve  spent nothing on Dele yet. They only pay if certain criteria is met 

[Midred]

1 minute ago, Redstart said:

Everton - think Lampard is massively overrated and he's already spunked £40m on Dele Ali. Love to see em in the Championship

But he wouldn't be able to show Derby how good he is!

[Redstart]

2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

They’ve  spent nothing on Dele yet. They only pay if certain criteria is met 

Yep fair play, could cost up to £40m - but he's signed him on a permanent 2.5 year deal and even his wages are a waste of money in my opinion. 

[Sleepy1968]

12 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Ditto.

I have a vague memory of them beating us in a cup game at the Gate early 2000s, but I don't think I've seen us play them in the league. 

Possibly the only, but certainly one of the few, english pro-league teams that I haven't seen play us live.

[Fordy62]

20 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Ditto.

I have a vague memory of them beating us in a cup game at the Gate early 2000s, but I don't think I've seen us play them in the league. 

That was mid 90’s mate. Some random centre half scoring late on to nick an undeserved 0-1 at the Gate. 

[Big C]

21 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Ditto.

I have a vague memory of them beating us in a cup game at the Gate early 2000s, but I don't think I've seen us play them in the league. 

Only on pens. Drew 2-2 with them in 2004

 

 

Edited February 27, 2022 by Big C

[Red Army 87]

Fully expect Brentford or Leeds to join watford and Norwich. 

[Lanterne Rouge]

4 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

Possibly the only, but certainly one of the few, english pro-league teams that I haven't seen play us live.

I don`t think we`ve played at Goodison Park since the First Division days. There are a few like that - Man Utd, Man City (at Maine Road), Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal and probably one or two others.

[cidered abroad]

I've seen them hammering us 5-0 in League Cup. Ball, Royle, and a host of great players.

The first one I saw was an FA Cup at Goodison in 1956. Lost 3-0 if memory correct.

Then four home games in First Division 76-80. I can't remember us ever beating them.

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

The utter joy of Leeds being relegated will be spoilt by them thrashing us next season as they do.

The only benefit is the usual Leeds fan celebrating in the Dolman and getting kicked from Row Z back down to Row A.

[Ska Junkie]

15 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

I've seen them hammering us 5-0 in League Cup. Ball, Royle, and a host of great players.

The first one I saw was an FA Cup at Goodison in 1956. Lost 3-0 if memory correct.

Then four home games in First Division 76-80. I can't remember us ever beating them.

We beat them in our last season at that level, 2-1. Apart from that we pretty much lost all of them.

EDIT: Just checked, February 1980 we beat them at the Gate.

Edited February 27, 2022 by Ska Junkie

[Port Said Red]

As much as it pains me to say it as I hate them, I wouldn't write Watford off just yet. Roy saved Fulham from an almost identical situation, 4 points from Villa and Man Utd away is good, if he can sort their home form, that might get them out of it.

[ray savino]

Norwich, Watford and… Brentford.

[Silvio Dante]

44 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

That was mid 90’s mate. Some random centre half scoring late on to nick an undeserved 0-1 at the Gate. 

1995. Matt Jackson after we dominated the entire game, they went on to win the cup.

Then in 1999 we lost 2-0 to them, Ibrahima JohnandYoko scoring twice late on

[Wiltshire robin]

1 hour ago, BCFCGav said:

Always happy to see some Leeds tears. Plus I’m yet to do Elland Road, a big one I need to tick off.

Good atmosphere in the ground but as an away fan it’s pretty shit . Gantry block top half of away end so can only see half the pitch , no away pubs anywhere even close to the ground and it’s £41 a ticket let alone travel costs .

Edited February 27, 2022 by Wiltshire robin

[CHIPLEY RED]

I would like in this order:

Newcastle - be so funny the richest club in the world relegated

Leeds - Beilsa like Rangnick at Man Utd is a myth both have never won anything but they pundits love them

Everton - Pity because I like Frank but it busts the too big/too good to go down myth

 

[Red-Robbo]

1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

 

Then in 1999 we lost 2-0 to them, Ibrahima JohnandYoko scoring twice late on

 

Think that's the one I recall. League Cup?

Can't remember a draw in 2004, but when I lived in London I'd often not be able to attend cup games. 

[PHILINFRANCE]

2 hours ago, Fordy62 said:

That was mid 90’s mate. Some random centre half scoring late on to nick an undeserved 0-1 at the Gate. 

 

1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

1995. Matt Jackson after we dominated the entire game, they went on to win the cup.

If it’s the game I’m thinking of, it was January 1994 (perhaps 1995), on a bitterly cold Sunday afternoon with torrential rain.

The pitch was like a potato field, City (who, like Everton, played poorly) had chances to win - Partridge hit the post when it looked easier to score (so did somebody else, I think, but I can’t remember who) and Allison headed a glorious chance miles wide.

As you stated, Jackson scored a late winner for Everton.

[BCFCGav]

1 hour ago, Wiltshire robin said:

Good atmosphere in the ground but as an away fan it’s pretty shit . Gantry block top half of away end so can only see half the pitch , no away pubs anywhere even close to the ground and it’s £41 a ticket let alone travel costs .

Good lord. Think that trip goes back down the list then. Thanks for the heads up!

[Wiltshire robin]

5 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

Good lord. Think that trip goes back down the list then. Thanks for the heads up!

If you stayed up there for the night to do other things around Yorkshire it wouldn’t be so bad but my personal experience is that it’s pretty grim in the holbeck area of Leeds . I’m sure others on here though quite like Leeds away so maybe they can change your opinion.

[shelts]

I’d like to see a different team from those we’ve played in recent times , Everton the people’s club would be my shout . 

[BS4 on Tour...]

4 hours ago, 22A said:

I’d like Everton to come down because they are ... a founder member of the Prem.

You say that as though that makes a club important enough to dislike ... if being a ‘founder member of the Prem’ is a reason to wish ill on a club then we must also dislike Coventry, Oldham, QPR, Ipswich, Middlesbrough, Blackburn and both Sheffield clubs ... not sure why we should dislike clubs who were ‘there at the start’ though ?!

[Oh Louie louie]

That season everton almost went down.

Hans segers performance on the last day saved rhem.

What a clown.

[weepywall]

9 hours ago, Wiltshire robin said:

Good atmosphere in the ground but as an away fan it’s pretty shit . Gantry block top half of away end so can only see half the pitch , no away pubs anywhere even close to the ground and it’s £41 a ticket let alone travel costs .

The Drysalter pub which welcomes away fans is about 10 mins walk to the ground. Loads of City in there last time I went to Leeds.

[Swede]

Can you just imagine for a minute the media meltdown if it was Everton, Newcastle or Leeds. "they're too good for this league blah blah" Most of they're matches would be televised with all of the media foaming at the mouths as their Premiership inflated waged large squads plus their obligatory parachute payments for failure pump 3 or 4 goals per match past their hapless & skint FFP restricted Championship opponents every week in front of their frenzied fans who appear all over the stadiums sparking sporadic fights with the locals. All it will underline is how unfair and unbalanced the Championship has become  and the urgent need for a salary cap that is clear and more importantly, policed.

[Mad Cyril]

Just hoping to break the monotony of the 3 promoted clubs get relegated, while the 3 relegated clubs get promoted.

Signs are ominous it could be the same 6 clubs this season as last..

[Curr Avon]

18 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Ditto.

I have a vague memory of them beating us in a cup game at the Gate early 2000s, but I don't think I've seen us play them in the league. 

I know how you feel. I was in the second row from back of the Sir John Hall Stand in October 2009. Needed bloody binoculars!

[Red-Robbo]

5 minutes ago, TomF said:

2-2 Under Tinnion: 

 

 

 

A very, very decent result back then. 

[Rebounder]

9 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

A very, very decent result back then. 

Fond memories of that game. Think Phillips made a great double save. 

I remember the first game in the 90's too as the Everton fans made a very young me cry when they invaded the pitch. 

[supercidered]

19 hours ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

The utter joy of Leeds being relegated will be spoilt by them thrashing us next season as they do.

The only benefit is the usual Leeds fan celebrating in the Dolman and getting kicked from Row Z back down to Row A.

Seen that happen and it still makes me laugh now thinking about it.

However, I have vowed never to watch a City v Leeds game again. Can't stick that f@ckin boring drone of a song they continuously sing is almost as bad as the SAG prozzy song. Almost.

[ExiledAjax]

20 hours ago, 22A said:

If it was Newcastle or Leeds, the majority of game would be televised because that what Sky did last time.  I'd like Everton to come down because they are perceived to be "one of the big boys" and secondly, a founder member of the Prem.

Almost every Everton game would be televised as well.

Selfishly I'd like Norwich and Watford to come down as they are convenient away days for me.

Newcastle as well just to piss their new owners off. 

[fatchers]

There are only three teams that I have'nt seen relegated, Liverpool, Arsenal and Everton.  Could this be the year that Everton drop or more likely Brentford ?  If I was a betting man I know where my money would be.

[Sir Geoff]

9 hours ago, Oh Louie louie said:

That season everton almost went down.

Hans segers performance on the last day saved rhem.

What a clown.

Allegedly, more than just being a clown, particularly with the one he literally threw into the net.

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

When I saw the title I wondered if it was down to our division or down to our level. 

As its the former, with Norwich and Watford likely I'd prefer Brentford as it would be a new ground. Next best would be either Newcastle or the never physically relegated Everton (many years ago they finished in a relegation place but won a play-off) as while I've been to both grounds I've never seen us win on either. 

[MC RISK77]

18 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

 

If it’s the game I’m thinking of, it was January 1994 (perhaps 1995), on a bitterly cold Sunday afternoon with torrential rain.

The pitch was like a potato field, City (who, like Everton, played poorly) had chances to win - Partridge hit the post when it looked easier to score (so did somebody else, I think, but I can’t remember who) and Allison headed a glorious chance miles wide.

As you stated, Jackson scored a late winner for Everton.

Yeah it was Jackson and it was a hell of a strike

[Rocking Red Cyril]

10 hours ago, weepywall said:

The Drysalter pub which welcomes away fans is about 10 mins walk to the ground. Loads of City in there last time I went to Leeds.

Yes last I did Leeds went by there pre game . Was Okies as away pubs go. Thought more like 15 minutes from the ground mind

[DaveInSA]

oh please please let it be the Toffeemen. or are they TofuPeople now it's the 2021 and all.

[Lanterne Rouge]

I remember one home game v Everton where we had Steve Torpey up front and they had David Unsworth at CB. Ninety minutes of blood and thunder, good old-fashioned CF v CB contest with no quarter asked or given. When one of them ended up on the deck, the other one helped him up and they both thoroughly enjoyed it.

I bloody loved it!

[Sweeneys Penalties]

would Everton be playing at Goodison or Bramley Moor Dock next season?

[1960maaan]

6 minutes ago, Sweeneys Penalties said:

would Everton be playing at Goodison or Bramley Moor Dock next season?

They'll still be at Goodison next year. A mate I sit next to at the Gate , is a member and goes to Everton quite often. We've been trying to arrange a trip for a while, them getting relegated would make it easier. Though I'd like them to survive. 

Brentford at a new ground would be a decent 2nd best.

[Sweeneys Penalties]

6 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

They'll still be at Goodison next year. A mate I sit next to at the Gate , is a member and goes to Everton quite often. We've been trying to arrange a trip for a while, them getting relegated would make it easier. Though I'd like them to survive. 

Brentford at a new ground would be a decent 2nd best.

cheers. I havent been to Goodison since I was in Liverpool to party (I didnt do much study) in the early 80's

[Maltshoveller]

I would love it

If Newcastle come back down

hate them more than i hate the gas

[Sweeneys Penalties]

10 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said:

I would love it

If Newcastle come back down

hate them more than i hate the gas

shame. A night in Newcastle is fantastic

[The Original OTIB]

11 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said:

I would love it

If Newcastle come back down

hate them more than i hate the gas

Why?

[Maltshoveller]

Just now, The Original OTIB said:

Why?

Their fans mainly 

Also when i was a kid i hatted teams who played in stripes 

[Wealwayseatcheese]

On 27/02/2022 at 20:50, Silvio Dante said:

1995. Matt Jackson after we dominated the entire game, they went on to win the cup.

Then in 1999 we lost 2-0 to them, Ibrahima JohnandYoko scoring twice late on

I was present at both games in Dolman B block. Sure the first game was Jackson scored a free kick in front of East end that housed over 5k Everton. They came onto the pitch. Also pretty certain that was the game were it kicked off big time on Ashton road with 50 of theirs. Andy Nichols mentioned it in his book . We were in Rising Sun at the time. 

they won’t come down. 

[Red Shadow]

45 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said:

Their fans mainly 

Also when i was a kid i hatted teams who played in stripes 

When I was a kid the gas played in stripes. Hate them more than any other team by a mile.

[22A]

Another anti Everton feeling. April 1980; City were finally relegated when Everton beat Southampton to stay up.

[Midred]

Everton in bottom 3 at this moment in time.

[archie andrews]

3 hours ago, 22A said:

Another anti Everton feeling. April 1980; City were finally relegated when Everton beat Southampton to stay up.

thought it was southampton that sealed our fate when we lost 5 2 to em...

[Lanterne Rouge]

Wasn`t it Everton who beat Sunderland 2-0(?) on THAT evening we played Coventry?

[weepywall]

6 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Wasn`t it Everton who beat Sunderland 2-0(?) on THAT evening we played Coventry?

It was indeed and yes it was 2-0.

[Red Shadow]

6 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Wasn`t it Everton who beat Sunderland 2-0(?) on THAT evening we played Coventry?

It certainly was. As we were all informed with 15 mins still to play

[Lanterne Rouge]

Just now, Red Shadow said:

It certainly was. As we were all informed with 15 mins still to play

God bless Jimmy Hill!

[SydneyCity]

Hopefully Everton do go down. My lasting memory of them is our 1-0 FA cup loss in 95.

I was at the Ashton/Winterstoke Road bus stop after the game and a group of Everton “hooligans” were at the bottom of those big steps that lead down to near the Mercedes garage. One in particular was a stereotypical, comically aggressive scouser; challenging anyone and everyone to come and have a go.

A City fan accepted the challenge and proceeded to run down the steps from the flyover, performing what can be best described as a two-fisted, flying Superman punch from about ten steps up. It connected beautifully with the aggro scousers big, mouthy head and sent him crashing to the floor.

The unexpectedly spectacular act of aerial combat performed by said City fan took the wind out of the scousers sails and they all buggered off, while the City fan got a rousing cheer that he duly accepted.

Great times.

[BS13 Robin]

Everton and Newcastle would be great!

[PHILINFRANCE]

26 minutes ago, TomF said:

Everton 3 down after 35 minutes v Spurs and generally looking dire.. If Burnley find a few more points they’re in deep deep trouble 

A comment in the BBC commentary that Everton can take one positive from their current position; Frank Lampard has experience of managing in the Championship .

Personally, however, I think I would prefer Burnley to escape at Leeds’ expense - I think Everton will be safe anyway, given their games in hand.

[johnbytheriver]

On 27/02/2022 at 20:21, 22A said:

Currently Burnley have improved. Everton, Newcastle and Leeds are all in danger of being relegated along with Watford & Norwich.

If one of the "bigger" clubs is to come down, who'd you prefer and why.

If it was Newcastle or Leeds, the majority of game would be televised because that what Sky did last time.  I'd like Everton to come down because they are perceived to be "one of the big boys" and secondly, a founder member of the Prem.

Over to you for your thoughts....

Are you sure we will still be in the championhip next year?

[daored]

Bad result for Burnley yesterday, just don’t seem to be able to get a run together and not taking advantage of their games in hand. 
 

Leeds have to win today (Norwich h), Everton (wolves h) could be a tricky game.