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Once again kids try to run on the pitch from the South Stand, get stopped by Security, which is right,then the father intervenes with the security asking why, because it's against the law,THATS WHY, Is he willing to pay the fines for letting his kids on the pitch,I doubt it, 

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Was announced (I think, the PA isn’t clear) pre game that they shouldn’t be doing it as well. Club need to keep that stance clear and those who break it should face the appropriate penalties - as long as it’s advertised it won’t be accepted, then people can’t feign ignorance 

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27 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Was announced (I think, the PA isn’t clear) pre game that they shouldn’t be doing it as well. Club need to keep that stance clear and those who break it should face the appropriate penalties - as long as it’s advertised it won’t be accepted, then people can’t feign ignorance 

OP said the kid was in South Stand.

That figures; because as we all know, the PA is shit there, so any warnings would not have been heard.

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2 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

Was announced (I think, the PA isn’t clear) pre game that they shouldn’t be doing it as well. Club need to keep that stance clear and those who break it should face the appropriate penalties - as long as it’s advertised it won’t be accepted, then people can’t feign ignorance 

The worse place for the speakers to be heard is in the Dolman, as we all know. However two announcements were made by Downsy. For some reason his microphone seems to work clearer than the stadium announcers one. Downsy asked that people did not run onto the pitch and approach players after the game as they could face a ban.

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53 minutes ago, phantom said:

Am I the only one that finds this all a bit needy and desperate? 

Take a selfie, get an autograph from a player but seriously, if you want a shirt go and buy one like everyone else 

Totally. It's entitlement. Do the parents think there aren't thousands of other kids who would like to be jumping the barriers to get on the pitch on a matchday?

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11 hours ago, RedM said:

The worse place for the speakers to be heard is in the Dolman, as we all know. However two announcements were made by Downsy. For some reason his microphone seems to work clearer than the stadium announcers one. Downsy asked that people did not run onto the pitch and approach players after the game as they could face a ban.

Eh? Downsy is the stadium announcer. 

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25 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

Eh? Downsy is the stadium announcer. 

Well there is certainly a difference from when he is pitchside doing higher and lower than when he reads out the substitutions etc. Can’t make that out at all half the time.

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Like in Zulu there must have been fousands of em sat by us. Squawking away, stood at the front at every opportunity.

Swarming about with their dads in tow. Sitting is seats that clearly weren’t theirs.

How ******* dare they? I blame the bloody bring a mate initiative. Who’s idea was that? To try and encourage new fans into the ground. Sack ‘em I say. I blame that Sam Bell….

And JD must have been out of Downsy’s ear shot. Didn’t he ignore team orders and give his shirt away…..

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1 hour ago, BigAl&Toby said:

Like in Zulu there must have been fousands of em sat by us. Squawking away, stood at the front at every opportunity.

Swarming about with their dads in tow. Sitting is seats that clearly weren’t theirs.

How ******* dare they? I blame the bloody bring a mate initiative. Who’s idea was that? To try and encourage new fans into the ground. Sack ‘em I say. I blame that Sam Bell….

And JD must have been out of Downsy’s ear shot. Didn’t he ignore team orders and give his shirt away…..

That's how much respect JD has for the club,by disobeying orders from the club regarding  giving shirts away, 

 

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Get the dogs out. Let them go at the pitch invaders, no matter what age, sod 'em.

They've  been warned. What is so worrying is that there seems to be a recent increase in people thinking that they are entitled to do what they want, and when they want to do it.

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15 hours ago, Taz said:

Get the dogs out. Let them go at the pitch invaders, no matter what age, sod 'em.

They've  been warned. What is so worrying is that there seems to be a recent increase in people thinking that they are entitled to do what they want, and when they want to do it.

Yep,the man that  thought it we as ok for his kids to run on the pitch, because they were entitled to, then fine that man, 

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On 06/03/2022 at 08:40, RedM said:

Well there is certainly a difference from when he is pitchside doing higher and lower than when he reads out the substitutions etc. Can’t make that out at all half the time.

More likely actual acoustics than microphone. At half time there’s less people in the ‘bowl’ which changes acoustics. 

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51 minutes ago, James54De said:

More likely actual acoustics than microphone. At half time there’s less people in the ‘bowl’ which changes acoustics. 

Yes, that’s what I decided too but didntvreturn to this post to clarify.

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On 05/03/2022 at 20:11, Red Shadow said:

Any father with half a brain cell shouldn't need an announcement.

And therein lies the problem....

On 06/03/2022 at 07:51, Redandproud said:

I've noticed the father of these kids has not responded with a reply, embarrassed or ashamed maybe, after all the announcement was loud and clear, but he chose to ignore it,,

What makes you think he even reads the forum?

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On 06/03/2022 at 08:51, BigAl&Toby said:

Like in Zulu there must have been fousands of em sat by us. Squawking away, stood at the front at every opportunity.

Swarming about with their dads in tow. Sitting is seats that clearly weren’t theirs.

How ******* dare they? I blame the bloody bring a mate initiative. Who’s idea was that? To try and encourage new fans into the ground. Sack ‘em I say. I blame that Sam Bell….

And JD must have been out of Downsy’s ear shot. Didn’t he ignore team orders and give his shirt away…..

Why did he give his shirt away? We lost didn't we?

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26 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said:

Why did he give his shirt away? We lost didn't we?

Total disrespect for the club ,not obeying orders from the club regarding giving shirts away, after all ,he does go to the knee,another rule set down by the club for the players,

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Put out an official club statement online and on the scoreboards that trespassers will be prosecuted and banned and in event of being under 16, the guardian will be instead. 

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27 minutes ago, Redandproud said:

Total disrespect for the club ,not obeying orders from the club regarding giving shirts away, after all ,he does go to the knee,another rule set down by the club for the players,

It also seems ridiculous to give his shirt away after we lost following an embarrassing performance. Can you imagine Roy Keane standing for that? 

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49 minutes ago, Redandproud said:

Total disrespect for the club ,not obeying orders from the club regarding giving shirts away, after all ,he does go to the knee,another rule set down by the club for the players,

 

I understand they voted to do that rather than it being a rule imposed by the club.

As for giving his shirt away, I suppose he's the only player whose jersey will fit an 8-year-old.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

I understand they voted to do that rather than it being a rule imposed by the club.

As for giving his shirt away, I suppose he's the only player whose jersey will fit an 8-year-old.

 

 

As I understood it, the board of directors, insisted the players took to the knee,but that's another title, 

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1 hour ago, Redandproud said:

As I understood it, the board of directors, insisted the players took to the knee,but that's another title, 

For pity's sake, you made yourself look a big enough tit on your thread in August where you made this same claim.  That and some of the other utter tripe you posted in the thread. Give it up.  

 

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6 minutes ago, Steve Watts said:

For pity's sake, you made yourself look a big enough tit on your thread in August where you made this same claim.  That and some of the other utter tripe you posted in the thread. Give it up.  

 

You don't know me,I don't know you ,try not insulting people who have got different opinions than you, 

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9 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Anyone else find the concept of "matchworn" merch absolutely rank. Bet those shirts ******* stink.

But then again you'd have to sweat for that to happen and most of our lot never get that hot. 

You can wash them you know? ;)

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3 hours ago, Redandproud said:

You don't know me,I don't know you ,try not insulting people who have got different opinions than you, 

It's not a different opinion, it's a matter of fact. The players take the knee because they want to, not because they have been ordered to. If you are going to repeatedly spread lies then expect people to get pissed off wirh you. 

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4 hours ago, Redandproud said:

You don't know me,I don't know you ,try not insulting people who have got different opinions than you, 

"As I understood it..." isn't the start of a statement of opinion.

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14 hours ago, richwwtk said:

It's not a different opinion, it's a matter of fact. The players take the knee because they want to, not because they have been ordered to. If you are going to repeatedly spread lies then expect people to get pissed off wirh you. 

Once again ,"INSULTS",. I'm trying to find the statement from the club about this, then I'll expect a apology, for calling me a liar, but I'm sure it was Jon Lansdown stated it, 

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24 minutes ago, Redandproud said:

So calling someone a "LIAR" is not an insult,?

Not when it's an accurate description.

I said you were continuing to spread lies after they were shown to be lies, which is exactly what you were doing.

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1 hour ago, Redandproud said:

Once again ,"INSULTS",. I'm trying to find the statement from the club about this, then I'll expect a apology, for calling me a liar, but I'm sure it was Jon Lansdown stated it, 

Been an hour. I'm guessing you couldn't find a statement, so are you going to apologise for getting it wrong? 

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16 minutes ago, Redandproud said:

WASTE OF TIME , 

No need to shout.

7 minutes ago, Selred said:

Been an hour. I'm guessing you couldn't find a statement, so are you going to apologise for getting it wrong? 

It would appear not, bunker down and shout at people is the procedure now.

it would be way too much to think the players were taking the knee because they actually think it's the right thing to do.

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7 minutes ago, Redandproud said:

 Still looking

There's a reason for that....can you guess what it is....? 

Maybe I can help point you in the right direction.  In my post (quoted below), the word "thread" is a hyperlink to the thread that you created.  In that thread you also seemed to suggest that racial discrimination had only been going on for 2 years and only in America! I realise that's not what you meant, but it did highlight your apparent lack of understanding of what the gesture is actually about and why it has transcended borders.

20 hours ago, Steve Watts said:

For pity's sake, you made yourself look a big enough tit on your thread in August where you made this same claim.  That and some of the other utter tripe you posted in the thread. Give it up.  

 

 

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22 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

No need to shout.

It would appear not, bunker down and shout at people is the procedure now.

it would be way too much to think the players were taking the knee because they actually think it's the right thing to do.

Ok, can't find it, I'm not going to apologize for a  statement I've read on the website, as it's been over 2yrs since then, I will apologize because I can't prove it to you,. end of, 

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52 minutes ago, Redandproud said:

Ok, can't find it, I'm not going to apologize for a  statement I've read on the website, as it's been over 2yrs since then, I will apologize because I can't prove it to you,. end of, 

Maybe you got it wrong?

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Let's imagine how unlikely a trio of wealthy white businessmen are to INSIST players make an anti-racism gesture - and how more likely a multi-racial group of young men (some of whom will have experienced or know those who have experienced racism) are to request that they do it. 

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4 minutes ago, Charlie BCFC said:

Apparently happened again yesterday  with Massengo, how are they genuinely being allowed to do this?

IDIOT parents, who don't care  about club rules or statements,total disregard, for the sake of getting a shirt, and There are security guards all around the pitch to stop this, 

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37 minutes ago, Charlie BCFC said:

Apparently happened again yesterday  with Massengo, how are they genuinely being allowed to do this?

And again, what kind of a knob must you be to think that after we’ve had a gut punch of a last minute equaliser a pitch invasion is any way appropriate.

Start banning them (parents of the kids) FFS

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6 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

And again, what kind of a knob must you be to think that after we’ve had a gut punch of a last minute equaliser a pitch invasion is any way appropriate.

Start banning them (parents of the kids) FFS

Agreed,start banning the parents,or a hefty club fine,then they'll think twice about their kids running on the pitch,

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1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

And again, what kind of a knob must you be to think that after we’ve had a gut punch of a last minute equaliser a pitch invasion is any way appropriate.

Start banning them (parents of the kids) FFS

Agree, but also why are the stewards allowing it to happen? If an adult ran on to the pitch asking for a players shirt I’d be rugby tackled within seconds. Absolutely ridiculous 

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5 minutes ago, Charlie BCFC said:

Agree, but also why are the stewards allowing it to happen? If an adult ran on to the pitch asking for a players shirt I’d be rugby tackled within seconds. Absolutely ridiculous 

Probably because they can get away with force on adults, so much as touch a kid to stop them and you know some parents would be after the steward on charges regardless of the fact the kid shouldn’t be on the pitch 

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3 minutes ago, Lrrr said:

Probably because they can get away with force on adults, so much as touch a kid to stop them and you know some parents would be after the steward on charges regardless of the fact the kid shouldn’t be on the pitch 

Oh don’t get me wrong, I don’t expect them to be violent on them but surely more of an effort has got to be made to stop it? 

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Just now, Charlie BCFC said:

Oh don’t get me wrong, I don’t expect them to be violent on them but surely more of an effort has got to be made to stop it? 

I'm not even saying violent, just even sticking out an arm to block and a hand of their shoulder, you'll get that 1 in 1000 (or however much) parent who'll want to take it as far as possible despite them being in the wrong, so the stewards are probably looking out for themselves as much as anything. I'd agree more needs to be done though, whether that's extra stewards who go on the pitch at the end to effectively form a ring around the players to stop people getting to players.

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7 minutes ago, Lrrr said:

I'm not even saying violent, just even sticking out an arm to block and a hand of their shoulder, you'll get that 1 in 1000 (or however much) parent who'll want to take it as far as possible despite them being in the wrong, so the stewards are probably looking out for themselves as much as anything. I'd agree more needs to be done though, whether that's extra stewards who go on the pitch at the end to effectively form a ring around the players to stop people getting to players.

Think this is a very sensible shout, and hopefully shouldn’t cause controversy 

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Seems to be a trend coming back in again. Noticed a few Middlesbrough fans on the pitch at full time trying to get players to give them there shirts.

Also see more fans with placards asking for shirts. Is that more acceptable? Saka gave his shirt to a fan holding a placard asking specifically for his shirt after the Villa game yesterday

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31 minutes ago, Charlie BCFC said:

Oh don’t get me wrong, I don’t expect them to be violent on them but surely more of an effort has got to be made to stop it? 

What I can't understand,why don't the stewards take the kids back to their parents,get details,take season ticket off them ,then ban them, or fine,

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1 hour ago, Charlie BCFC said:

Agree, but also why are the stewards allowing it to happen? If an adult ran on to the pitch asking for a players shirt I’d be rugby tackled within seconds. Absolutely ridiculous 

 

1 hour ago, Lrrr said:

Probably because they can get away with force on adults, so much as touch a kid to stop them and you know some parents would be after the steward on charges regardless of the fact the kid shouldn’t be on the pitch 

Yeah quite, even working in a school, if a child were to complain that a member of staff had even touched them slightly (and I don't mean in any other way than putting an arm out etc before some idiot tries to be funny), then you're probably suspended under investigation - and that's even if you were nowhere near said child!

It's a minefield that the stewards are probably best to just leave alone and let them go for those reasons. What should be happening though, and this isn't a criticism of the club because they won't want to be seen to be heavy handed or harsh, but the child(ren) should be escorted back to parents and details taken to ban/fine them heavily. If they aren't willing to comply, then the police should be involved.

The club (or clubs because it's not just us), have tried the nice approach and asked/told. It's still happening so now they need to step it up. 

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I can remember when I was kid 20 or so years ago the only chance to get a players shirt was at the end of the season running on the pitch. Tinnion gave me his shirt only for some bloke in his 30s to snatch it out of my hands - still hold that trauma ?.

If parents are worried about there kids being rugby tackled by a steward then don't encourage them to go on the pitch.

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Couldn't they just tell the players that if they want to give their shirts away then feel free to give it to a kid waiting on the sidelines or whatever, but absolutely do not give it to someone that has run on the pitch.

Make it clear that this is the policy and parents will soon stop sending their kids out there. You might get more begging signs but that is hardly a big issue.

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5 hours ago, Charlie BCFC said:

Apparently happened again yesterday  with Massengo, how are they genuinely being allowed to do this?

To be fair to Massengo, he declined to give the little spermer his shirt, but instead signed his top.

Hopefully it was his best jumper and his old man gave him a clip for getting perm marker all over it.

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