Tinmans Love Child Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, HappyClapper said: Really?? Why do you want this to become a p*sing contest? I’ve just called you out on a post(s) that in my opinion are delivering another false narrative. FWIW I did the old “Prelim” back in the 90’s now hold EUFA B and have been a teacher for 25 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) Blanked.. Edited March 7, 2022 by lenred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No, why would I? Why do you troll my posts, then DM me with your ITK stuff? Why did you DM me to try to meet up with me before a game? Why did you ask if DMs were monitored? Bravo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 35 minutes ago, Robbored said: Nige signed James despite him being past his best but (same as Simpson) was aware of the influence he’d have in the dressing room as well as on the pitch - so there are similarities between the two signings. James was still in his twenties when we signed him & we have given him a 3 year deal. If he was “past his best” by then, we’re in really big trouble. Simpson was already 34 (he’s 35 now) & King approaching 33 when we gave them both one year deals. If you don’t see the huge difference between the former & the latter two that is remarkable, or on reflection possibly not… 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 All managers make poor signings. It is almost impossible to have 100% hit rate (Even Pep paid £100m for a player that has made little difference to his team, Klopp signed Minamino). Hits for NP have been Tanner, Atkinson, Klosse, Weimann, Baker Good squad players that can offer more when fully fit James and King Misses Simpson. I don't think the above is a stick to beat him with. Perhaps there should be a bit more praise for his signings. Where he let himself down was not bringing in a full back and allowing NW to go out on loan in January. Again in mitigation he still (probably) thought he could get by using Vyner at RB til Tanner was fit again. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 On the James signing I didnt see anyone on here complaining about it at the time, especially as he was signed on the back of a good season at Coventry. King was a bit different and more of a gamble. Having watched him 4 years ago on loan at Swansea I personally would have have given him a big swerve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No, why would I? Why do you troll my posts, then DM me with your ITK stuff? Why did you DM me to try to meet up with me before a game? Why did you ask if DMs were monitored? Hell hath no fury... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, glynriley said: Hell hath no fury... He had a go at my spreadsheets. There’s no coming back from that! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, GrahamC said: James was still in his twenties when we signed him & we have given him a 3 year deal. If he was “past his best” by then, we’re in really big trouble. Simpson was already 34 (he’s 35 now) & King approaching 33 when we gave them both one year deals. I didn’t know how old James was when Nige signed him. I (wrongly) assumed that as James had been with the Foxes when Nige was there that he’d be around late 20s early 30s. Unsurprisingly I never do any background checks on players that City sign - I leave that to you and others who seem to relish that kind of research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, HappyClapper said: Really?? Why do you want this to become a p*sing contest? I’ve just called you out on a post(s) that in my opinion are delivering another false narrative. FWIW I did the old “Prelim” back in the 90’s now hold EUFA B and have been a teacher for 25 years. Me too. Just going over my notes…. Nothing in there about what to do during injury crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, Robbored said: I didn’t know how old James was when Nige signed him. I (wrongly) assumed that as James had been with the Foxes when Nige was there that he’d be around late 20s early 30s. Unsurprisingly I never do any background checks on players that City sign - I leave that to you and others who seem to relish that kind of research. You apparently knew he was “past his best” though. He was in his late 20s, (29) so your earlier statement now makes even less sense… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, GrahamC said: You apparently knew he was “past his best” though. He was in his late 20s, (29) so your earlier statement now makes even less sense… He certainly looked it against Brum last Saturday………….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinsleburg Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Think Simpson gets a rough ride because of his past. Taking that completely out the equation (think it's a separate debate as to whether it should and probably not the time/place for that discussion) I saw the logic/merits of this deal in the summer. Felt like NP was settled on Vyner as first choice and obviously bought in Tanner for development with DS as replacement/mentor. Don't believe Simpson's wages would be a game changer with FFP and don't think he was bought in to play as much as King for example. Obviously since that point Vyners form has fallen off a cliff and after a promising start Tanner has got injured, we've spent a large amount of time playing a back 5 which definitely doesn't suit Simpson and therefore hasn't really been able to get match sharpness. At his age I imagine it's harder to get match fitness without actually playing so not surprised he's not featured much even with the injuries/form of people in that position. So in my opinion a low risk, logical deal that just hasn't worked out, certainly not the disaster it's being made out to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 All the best Danny. Played a huge part in Pearson’s Progress…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 5 hours ago, CyderInACan said: A Legend in his own Lunchtime...........at least he had the decency to stop sponging? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Carey 6 said: Heard he was on a pittance in footballers wages terms & absolutely nowhere near the amount quoted on that dodgy website guessing at players wages. He wasn’t going to play, but was creating a bit of an issue with the fans wondering why we played all these others in his position over him, good business to terminate early I reckon. TBH if he was paid £150 a week it still wasn't worth it - unless he undertook some maintenance jobs around the HPC on the side. However you cut it, his signing was a failure. Divisive because of his wife-beating background; didn't look very good in the 4 starts he had for us; mysteriously earned another year and then spent months sitting on his arse and not even near considered for a matchday start. The fact that Pearson would rather play a teenage U23 forward over Simpson as RB says everything. Let's just hope NP has learnt from this fiasco and next summer's incomers are more considered than this, his first signing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 3 hours ago, VT05763 said: Could well be right. Hopefully. Or it could be guilt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, JonDolman said: Hundreds of pounds a week!? Surely he was on thousands. Can only repeat what I’ve heard. Supposedly here as a favour to Pearson to give him the run down on the dressing room. Don’t know why King or James couldn’t do that, but that’s what I’ve heard. If he gets a new club then that’s obviously bollocks, if he retires then I’d say it’s probably true. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Curr Avon said: Danny, I'm sorry that things didn't work out for you at City. Very best wishes at your next club. A five iron? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 hours ago, HappyClapper said: Wow, such a lack of self awareness. Even here where I may have made an error you are making things up. I didn’t mention that he had played at RB and thought he had played the odd game at RWB. Before Saturday he had started 2 first team games at RWB/FB and would’ve been taken through this in training in the lead up to the games. My point was really about your comments on player development, which you curiously have decided to ignore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, VT05763 said: Superb!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Just now, maxjak said: Superb!! Several today !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, VT05763 said: Great Video, made me smile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 The criticism of James I don't really get. Sure he's had injuries this and in prior seasons, but a fit James is good technically, tactically and with useful experience to pass on. Signing him on a free is a definite positive- last season he played maybe even started 23/23 for Coventry, think he had a strong availability record with Barnsley too in 1st half of the season there. A fit King would have had his uses as a squad player too, to shore it up or as a rotation option- seem to recall he played very well v Fulham in the Cup. He was only probably intended as a short term ie 1 year addition anyway but injuries have ultimately done for him. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said: Great Video, made me smile Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, maxjak said: A five iron? If putter wouldn't melt.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, JonDolman said: Well that would be very surprising. If he was brought in to play then surely he has to be paid fairly. That is non league level wages isn't it? He would get paid what he’s prepared to accept, he’s had a good career. Small contracts with big bonuses aren’t uncommon especially if you aren’t going to be first choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Davefevs said: Ooooh, was waiting for this thread, and it’s not disappointed me. That’s him the little bastard. Hi Mum . One for all ‘ Bottom ‘ fans there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Robbored said: I didn’t know how old James was when Nige signed him. I (wrongly) assumed that as James had been with the Foxes when Nige was there that he’d be around late 20s early 30s. Unsurprisingly I never do any background checks on players that City sign - I just post complete and utter bollux in the hope I'll get some attention - and I leave that to you and others who seem to relish that kind of research. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 I don’t get the obsession with Danny Simpson and the greater obsession with beating Pearson around the head with it. We are a club that over a five year period have signed, for huge money, players that have failed, retired, had no ability and were discarded! Pearson signs a player on a free that doesn’t work out and there are six pages and a dozen threads about it. Some need to get a grip and move the eff on! 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, REDOXO said: I don’t get the obsession with Danny Simpson and the greater obsession with beating Pearson around the head with it. We are a club that over a five year period have signed, for huge money, players that have failed, retired, had no ability and were discarded! Pearson signs a player on a free that doesn’t work out and there are six pages and a dozen threads about it. Some need to get a grip and move the eff on! Fair point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 7 hours ago, VT05763 said: Klose I can see the sense and he has been decent (behind the scenes also) But Simpson was a disaster and even the most rabid NP supporters can't defend that signing surely ? Well, he was a better signing than LJ’s signing of Diony. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFABM Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Well, he was a better signing than LJ’s signing of Diony. Did you not think Diony was a potentially good signing at the time? I know i did. Not sure many thought Simpson was ever a good idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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And Its Smith Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 @VT05763 how come you asked Fevs to meet before a game but you asked me to come round your house?! 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xerox6060 Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 8 hours ago, petehinton said: he must've done something/had a huge bust up with Pearson or someone else internally for him to be so rapidly binned off, after Pearson went through all the hassle of signing him, publicly defending him over the abuse history, and then signing him again I agree all a bit odd, considering its been a problem position, he has looked incredibly poor but I thought give it a few months he'd get his chance. fall out or maybe undisclosed issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Sir Geoff said: On the James signing I didnt see anyone on here complaining about it at the time, especially as he was signed on the back of a good season at Coventry. King was a bit different and more of a gamble. Having watched him 4 years ago on loan at Swansea I personally would have have given him a big swerve. People need to remember that our recruitment department was basically whoever Mark Ashton's preferred agents suggested before. I suspect there wasn't a long list of candidates so he went for what he knew. Simpson getting paid a relatively small amount is still nowhere near as bad as Chris Brunt though. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: TBH if he was paid £150 a week it still wasn't worth it - unless he undertook some maintenance jobs around the HPC on the side. However you cut it, his signing was a failure. Divisive because of his wife-beating background; didn't look very good in the 4 starts he had for us; mysteriously earned another year and then spent months sitting on his arse and not even near considered for a matchday start. The fact that Pearson would rather play a teenage U23 forward over Simpson as RB says everything. Let's just hope NP has learnt from this fiasco and next summer's incomers are more considered than this, his first signing. I think the key thing is our recruitment team should now know what they are looking for, The Leicester signings made sense in the context that Nige probably wasn't impressed by suggestions (with the exception of Atkinson) and the 'team' wouldn't have as clear an idea of what is needed as they do now. Playing Bell there is simply Testing his mettle rather than his right back abilities, If he comes through it hardened it will have been worth his while. Wouldn't surprise me to see him have a future as a wing back/wide midfielder. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 42 minutes ago, GTFABM said: Did you not think Diony was a potentially good signing at the time? I know i did. Not sure many thought Simpson was ever a good idea. I had no idea in truth, though as we were reportedly prepared to spend £8m on him, comparing him to a free transfer on a one year contract isn’t exactly “like for like”, is it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 41 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: @VT05763 how come you asked Fevs to meet before a game but you asked me to come round your house?! Ooo errr, would this make @And Its Smith and @VT05763 OTIBs first couple? Our Harry and Maegan? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, The Bard said: I think the key thing is our recruitment team should now know what they are looking for, The Leicester signings made sense in the context that Nige probably wasn't impressed by suggestions (with the exception of Atkinson) and the 'team' wouldn't have as clear an idea of what is needed as they do now. Playing Bell there is simply Testing his mettle rather than his right back abilities, If he comes through it hardened it will have been worth his while. Wouldn't surprise me to see him have a future as a wing back/wide midfielder. Perchance. TBH I haven't been that amazed by any of his appearances. I'm undecided whether second tier will be the level he ends up. A few years yet for him to show his mettle, so I'd be daft to write him off at 19! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 4 hours ago, JonDolman said: James probably was slightly past his best since his bad injuries at Leicester. But he was still very good in the championship last season. Before his recent injury for us I think he had still looked a good player at this level. Bit surprised a lot of fans don't seem to rate him. Agreed - I thought in the early part of the season James looked like exactly what we've needed since Pack left. Needs to get properly fit, clearly, but he's a proper all-rounder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 Leicester media coverage includes some barbed comments re NP https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leicester-city-simpson-pearson-bristol-6764659 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiesaffer Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Robbored said: He certainly looked it against Brum last Saturday………….. He showed his not fit. He was dog shite Saturday. I was shouting to pull him off at half time for Han. It doesn’t make him past his best. Just not match fit after a longish lay off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rizzle Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 What annoys me about this one is that signing him created a negative hoo haa PR wise. It was VERY clear to the average Joe that he wasn’t going to offer us anything much (especially after his couple of months at the end of last season). On what grounds did NP think resigning or even signing him in the first place was a good idea. Whole thing is an utter shambles and reflects terribly on the club. Because of that, I’d have this as our worst ever signing (from my memory). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Jerseybean said: Leicester media coverage includes some barbed comments re NP https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leicester-city-simpson-pearson-bristol-6764659 Like the comments you get below the line on Bristol Live, you mean? That special place for seriously special people? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, B-Rizzle said: What annoys me about this one is that signing him created a negative hoo haa PR wise. It was VERY clear to the average Joe that he wasn’t going to offer us anything much (especially after his couple of months at the end of last season). On what grounds did NP think resigning or even signing him in the first place was a good idea. Whole thing is an utter shambles and reflects terribly on the club. Because of that, I’d have this as our worst ever signing (from my memory). Serious question, how long have you supported us? Because Simpson isn’t even our worst signing of the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Fordy62 said: Well, he was a better signing than LJ’s signing of Diony. I’d respectfully disagree. Diony came on loan, we realised he was Pony Diony, and he was sent back. Simpson came in short term, it was clear to everyone he was Gimpson Simpson, but we re-signed him anyway. Both signings were crap. But only one of them was given a further year, so in my opinion that makes it the worst one of the 2. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 3 hours ago, The Bard said: I think the key thing is our recruitment team should now know what they are looking for, The Leicester signings made sense in the context that Nige probably wasn't impressed by suggestions (with the exception of Atkinson) and the 'team' wouldn't have as clear an idea of what is needed as they do now. Playing Bell there is simply Testing his mettle rather than his right back abilities, If he comes through it hardened it will have been worth his while. Wouldn't surprise me to see him have a future as a wing back/wide midfielder. What ‘recruitment team’? We haven’t got one to my knowledge. Therein lies a massive problem and the major cause of our decline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 4 hours ago, Fordy62 said: Well, he was a better signing than LJ’s signing of Diony. Debatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: Serious question, how long have you supported us? Because Simpson isn’t even our worst signing of the last few years. If you take the context of his whole message ie the bad PR around the signing I think he has a very good point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Robin Posted March 7, 2022 Share Posted March 7, 2022 (edited) A predictable flop. That being said, I guess that our financial problems justified - at least partially - the choice of confirming him: keeping Hunt would have surely made more sense, in many ways, but probably he would have cost us too much (or forced us to sell/release another decent player)...and the same could be said about the idea of signing a new player. About the mentality/group culture aspect...it's difficult to know if he had an influence or not. Edited March 7, 2022 by Dan Robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 20 hours ago, Davefevs said: I get the impression this announcement had no impact / bearing on Jan window and Pearson / club have been trying to agree a mutual pay-off. They’ve now reached an agreement. It was a poor signing looking back. I totally saw the logic at the time, and even now I’m not gonna heavily criticise Pearson for trying to get us to this season in as cheap a way as possible. As much as I don’t think DS is on a few hundred a week, he most definitely isn’t on £18k p.w either. He was given new terms in the summer Personally don’t think we should ever have signed Simpson either short term or on a permanent contract, due to his conviction. However, I can see why he was signed, experienced, relatively cheap as back up to Vyner (who I think Pearson probably wanted to play at RB this season). Our lack of right sided defensive options are clear for all to see with Bell playing there Saturday, Vyner is out of favour and Tanner coming back from injury. Part of the issue with Simpson is that James & King have been unavailable this season and the three ex Leicester players have contributed very little to date. We simply don’t know what funds Pearson had available and maybe these three players he knew and probably trusts were seen as best options. Everything about wages is unknown , heard on the podcast on Sunday he was on just shy of £10K per week (£500k per year) but no idea if that’s correct and find it hard to understand how people can openly state what players earn. It hadn’t worked out and for me a player with should never have signed last season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 45 minutes ago, daored said: Everything about wages is unknown , heard on the podcast on Sunday he was on just shy of £10K per week (£500k per year) but no idea if that’s correct and find it hard to understand how people can openly state what players earn. Yep, I will happily state what I think, but never state as fact. My usual mantra is “I wouldn’t be surprised if he was on x”. Re Simpson - if Weimann took a big pay cut in the summer and Simpson also had new terms agreed, and based on expectations of each I can’t believe Simpson is on anything like £8-10k pw. Without seeing his contract I’ve got no idea whether I’m close (or no cigar!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 11 hours ago, Harry said: I’d respectfully disagree. Diony came on loan, we realised he was Pony Diony, and he was sent back. Simpson came in short term, it was clear to everyone he was Gimpson Simpson, but we re-signed him anyway. Both signings were crap. But only one of them was given a further year, so in my opinion that makes it the worst one of the 2. Don't come on here talking sense. You will get slaughtered. Apparently Simpson was on "hundreds of pounds a week" according to the kool aid drinkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 28 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Yep, I will happily state what I think, but never state as fact. My usual mantra is “I wouldn’t be surprised if he was on x”. Re Simpson - if Weimann took a big pay cut in the summer and Simpson also had new terms agreed, and based on expectations of each I can’t believe Simpson is on anything like £8-10k pw. Without seeing his contract I’ve got no idea whether I’m close (or no cigar!). I wouldn't be surprised if he was on around the £5k per week plus appearance bonus. So around £5k a week ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 15 hours ago, And Its Smith said: @VT05763 how come you asked Fevs to meet before a game but you asked me to come round your house?! You didn't turn though ? Text me to say you were held up at Tog Hill car park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, VT05763 said: I wouldn't be surprised if he was on around the £5k per week plus appearance bonus. So around £5k a week ! 46 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Yep, I will happily state what I think, but never state as fact. My usual mantra is “I wouldn’t be surprised if he was on x”. Re Simpson - if Weimann took a big pay cut in the summer and Simpson also had new terms agreed, and based on expectations of each I can’t believe Simpson is on anything like £8-10k pw. Without seeing his contract I’ve got no idea whether I’m close (or no cigar!). The danger is when people state a player is on £x per week without any substance to the comment as fact 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, daored said: The danger is when people state a player is on £x per week without any substance to the comment as fact Correct. Both of the statements are pure guess work and of equal validity. Edited March 8, 2022 by VT05763 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 3 hours ago, VT05763 said: Don't come on here talking sense. You will get slaughtered. Apparently Simpson was on "hundreds of pounds a week" according to the kool aid drinkers. But there are educated guesses using a bit of common sense. Minevis that In all likelihood he was on something in the region of £3 to £5 k per week. Anything more would've been overpayment. Anything less you'd wonder whether it would've been worth his while considering his career. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 15 hours ago, GrahamC said: Serious question, how long have you supported us? Because Simpson isn’t even our worst signing of the last few years. There are players in our current squad who were worse signings than Simpson (I struggle to look past Kasey Palmer for that accolade when you consider the eye-watering sums of money involved for a player who wasn't even good on loan)! In terms of negative PR, I think people over-egg this point slightly. Bristol City are a very small bubble - the ripples weren't even felt that strongly across the local media, let alone further afield. Most football fans probably wouldn't even know Danny Simpson was at Bristol City, frankly. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, The Journalist said: There are players in our current squad who were worse signings than Simpson (I struggle to look past Kasey Palmer for that accolade when you consider the eye-watering sums of money involved for a player who wasn't even good on loan)! In terms of negative PR, I think people over-egg this point slightly. Bristol City are a very small bubble - the ripples weren't even felt that strongly across the local media, let alone further afield. Most football fans probably wouldn't even know Danny Simpson was at Bristol City, frankly. Absolutely so. Simpson hasn’t worked out, but by any measure he was a low cost risk. Personally I was always uncomfortable with his signing, no matter how he’d worked out but you’re spot on, in the scheme of things that means very little. Palmer for me is up there with Gustav Engvall (who cost £2m, never started a single league game, no goals, then was sold for a rumoured £200k) as the worst signing that we have ever made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Absolutely so. Simpson hasn’t worked out, but by any measure he was a low cost risk. Personally I was always uncomfortable with his signing, no matter how he’d worked out but you’re spot on, in the scheme of things that means very little. Palmer for me is up there with Gustav Engvall (who cost £2m, never started a single league game, no goals, then was sold for a rumoured £200k) as the worst signing that we have ever made. On that theme, I was actually going to edit my original post to say just that - to downplay the PR impact isn't to say I supported his signing. Like you, I didn't like it at all. Anyone who didn't want him here was well within their rights to be unhappy about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 36 minutes ago, The Journalist said: On that theme, I was actually going to edit my original post to say just that - to downplay the PR impact isn't to say I supported his signing. Like you, I didn't like it at all. Anyone who didn't want him here was well within their rights to be unhappy about it. I’m not gonna reinvent my history, my stance at the time was purely football based as I really had no real background into what happened off the pitch. I read some bits and decided that “rehab” had been done, do didn’t give it any further thought. Playing wise I bought into the logic of resigning him in the summer. It hadn’t worked out. It didn’t cost us much imho. Shit happens. Although we need to improve in this respect. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Was never on board with the signing of Simpson, and it’s clearly been a complete failure, but I’m happy that there is now some sense being spoken over suggestions that he is our worst ever signing. There are at least two still at the club that are worse, just for starters. Both of them were big fees, both of them are amongst the highest earners in the squad, both of them are, if not useless, then very close to useless, both of them are still here for no other reason than we can’t get rid of them, both of them will still be an issue for this club long after people have forgotten that Simpson even played for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I’m not gonna reinvent my history, my stance at the time was purely football based as I really had no real background into what happened off the pitch. I read some bits and decided that “rehab” had been done, do didn’t give it any further thought. Playing wise I bought into the logic of resigning him in the summer. It hadn’t worked out. It didn’t cost us much imho. Shit happens. Although we need to improve in this respect. Somewhere between £130.000 and £260,000 (6 months on £5k - £10k per week, not including the odd appearance bonus) would be an estimation, not a fact but "ball park" Shit happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 19 hours ago, The Journalist said: Agreed - I thought in the early part of the season James looked like exactly what we've needed since Pack left. Needs to get properly fit, clearly, but he's a proper all-rounder. I would say since Hartley left. But yes fitness is the key. If he can get most of the last ten under his belt I’m confident of picking up some useful points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, VT05763 said: Somewhere between £130.000 and £260,000 (6 months on £5k - £10k per week, not including the odd appearance bonus) would be an estimation, not a fact but "ball park" Shit happens. Yup. Only in football would you be able to write off a potential quarter of a million pound mistake with just a shrug, but that's the madness of the economics of the game*. The signing does pale into insignificance compared to some of the clunkers roped in during the Lee Johnson years (although of course, he had much longer plus the "help" of Mr Ashton to sign that lot). Still a minor blot in the copy book of NP. I'd argue that Simpson never looked fit or ready in March 2021 and I'm not even sure how he passed the physical, let alone got signed. Renewing the contract doubled down on the mistake. * Well, only in football and politics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: Yup. Only in football would you be able to write off a potential quarter of a million pound mistake with just a shrug, but that's the madness of the economics of the game*. The signing does pale into insignificance compared to some of the clunkers roped in during the Lee Johnson years (although of course, he had much longer plus the "help" of Mr Ashton to sign that lot). Still a minor blot in the copy book of NP. I'd argue that Simpson never looked fit or ready in March 2021 and I'm not even sure how he passed the physical, let alone got signed. Renewing the contract doubled down on the mistake. * Well, only in football and politics I guess you have to factor in that he started 3, sub 2 and 15 unused sub appearances, and was fit for both training / selection certainly until the turn of the year. It’s certainly not “all of his wages down the pan”, although easy to frame it like that. in the 2 league games he started I don’t actually think he played badly….Tin-hat on, but I thought was he was ok v West Brom too, just a shocking backpass is the lasting memory. The key qualifier is - did he meet the expectations of Nigel Pearson for the wages outlaid? I suspect the answer is “no”, even with the intangible off the field stuff he hopefully brought whilst here. Could we have done better with his wages by signing someone else? imho, undoubtedly yes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 43 minutes ago, Davefevs said: in the 2 league games he started I don’t actually think he played badly…. My main memory is of a player so slow that he made Martin Kuhl look like Usain Bolt! He obviously hasn't been like that throughout his career and was pretty handy in his prime. Players are like anyone else though. They age at different speeds. In his case his legs were not going to let him play at 35. Huddersfield knew this when they released him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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