Barnsley away match day thread

[Denbury Red]

We’ve apparently had 13 shots!!

[petehinton]

Well that was entirely as expected. Think that could be me done for the season now tbh

[BasSavage88]

Just now, 2015 said:

Where are we actually going as a club? Sadly I can only see us returning to League 1 in the next few years.

Few? 

[Spike]

4 minutes ago, CotswoldRed said:

However bad our players are, its the job of the coach/manager to add value to a team performance. I just don't see where. 

People keep saying this but look at United. You know they have talent, they've gone through multiple managers and don't perform anywhere near the level they can. 

It's all good to blame the manager but sometimes there are just too many players rocking the boat to get the team playing well. 

I have no idea who we would bring in if Pearson goes, I actually think that may be the final straw that sees us relegated because if these players won't play for Pearson I don't see them playing for anyone else. 

[Frenchay Red]

Dreadful dreadful performance.

[ExiledAjax]

1 minute ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Hopefully. He has run his nuts off TBF

He has.

Honestly bar some really really poor set piece defending tonight has essentially been a frantic match between two fairly crap teams. Barnsley set up well to counter us - we're not good under pressure so they put pressure on us, and we cracked. We've bene prone to individual errors at the back, personally I think that is exacerbated by a lack of midfield consistency and screening, and the necessary back 3 that netiehr Pearosn nor his defenders are totally comfortable with. That creates seeds of doubt, that leads to hesitancy and indecision, and that creates mistakes. That's the short term. That loses us games.

In the long term we don't have a right back so we cannot play Pearson's preferred 4 at the back. We did play that early in the season, and we were much more controlled and solid in defence...but we were more boring and stodgy going forward. On balance though we seemed more capable of picking up points. Correct that over the summer (finances permitting so bye bye to at least one decent sale) and I think we can achieve proper mid table next term, although it will be not be exciting or attractive football.

Oh and at least Derby are off to oblivion. 

[City1970]

1 minute ago, Lordofthebling said:

Are they? I thought they look OK. No excuses for us though, we are shocking 

Agree, Barnsley defended with desire and commitment. Unfortunately we have been really poor both individually and collectively.

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, 2015 said:

Where are we actually going as a club? Sadly I can only see us returning to League 1 in the next few years.

Ask Steve, he'll tell you.

[Ivorguy]

Just now, Denbury Red said:

We’ve apparently had 13 shots!!

What of? Vodka

[Alan Dicks]

Looks like Nige is taking us down next season.

[Banjo Red]

Let's see what Nige has to say about that.

[NewForestRed]

Shambles

[cityexile]

No getting away from we were very poor. We created enough situations to score, buggered those up, and conceded poorly to the first two corners.

Rubbish. Kind of expected tonight tbh.

[2015]

Just now, Numero Uno said:

Ask Steve, he'll tell you.

Everything just feels the same every season. It's so boringly predictable. 

I don't like where the club has been going ever since that Wolves game, on and off the pitch. I think City have become the most stale club in the division

[maxjak]

2 hours ago, maxjak said:

IMHO .........mistake not to start Wells, whilst giving Martin a rest.  But Hey what do I know?   The proof will be in the result/performance?   Prediction......2-0 defeat?   Hoping to eat Humble Pie!

That's another £50 in the bank.......with the notable exception of last Saturday, City are the most predictable away side in the country, and a punters dream team?

[Banjo Red]

1 minute ago, Numero Uno said:

Ask Steve, he'll tell you.

Don't ask his son he is clueless 

[Lordofthebling]

We lack quality and movement and everything in between. That was awful.

 

And what ####### me off, we have the likes of KP and O Dowda sitting there picking up a tidy wage for #### all. 

[BasSavage88]

Just now, Spike said:

If these players won't play for Pearson I don't see them playing for anyone else

Why? Because he got promoted from this division nearly a decade ago

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, Alan Dicks said:

Looks like Nige is taking us down next season.

Might be worth seeing who he sells and brings in first......................

[Bodiesaffer]

Just now, Jerseybean said:

Game in a nutshell. That was a league one performance from us.

That’s how it’s been all season, game of two half’s, can’t pass for toff, or we play them off the park and win the unexpected. Inconsistent season.  

[IAmNick]

Think tonight is what it looks like when we take our standard "defend like shit and let in 2 goals" part of the recipe, without adding the "but also score 2 at the same time" bit.

Really poor overall.

[sh1t_ref_again]

5 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

,Barnsley are terrible

Is that the Barnsley who have only lost 1 in the last 6 and drew with Fuham in there last game

[Daniro]

Just now, Banjo Red said:

Let's see what Nige has to say about that.

He has to take some responsibility for failing to coach the team the basics of defending corners.    

[Banjo Red]

1 minute ago, 2015 said:

Everything just feels the same every season. It's so boringly predictable. 

I don't like where the club has been going ever since that Wolves game, on and off the pitch. I think City have become the most stale club in the division

It seems that way makes you wonder where we go from here.

[Ska Junkie]

1 minute ago, cityexile said:

No getting away from we were very poor. We created enough situations to score, buggered those up, and conceded poorly to the first two corners.

Rubbish. Kind of expected tonight tbh.

Did their keeper (Collins?) do anything atall? Apart from drop the ball over his dead ball line he had naff all to do! 

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, Banjo Red said:

Don't ask his son he is clueless 

What the **** is Steve then? This is the bloke that LAUDED Swiss Toni........

[JoeAman08]

4 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

If you can't find a single one then you're not looking at all

No I have looked there are none. We are dreadful even after the summer clear out. Pearson ain’t the one

[Red_Alligator]

That was awful. No other way to describe it. 

 

[Lordofthebling]

I'm giving him the transfer window and 5 games before I get the banners out.

Club is a joke. Getting bored of it now.

Edited March 15, 2022 by Lordofthebling

[Banjo Red]

Just now, Numero Uno said:

What the **** is Steve then? This is the bloke that LAUDED Swiss Toni........

The mad king

[MJP3]

On the plus side, I thought Wells looked good.
Black Kit with Yellow Boots, a great combo.

[Bodiesaffer]

3 minutes ago, BasSavage88 said:

Few? 

It’s in our DNA. We go up stay for a few, go down stay for a few, go up stay for a few. 

[RedNachos]

1 minute ago, BasSavage88 said:

Why? Because he got promoted from this division nearly a decade ago

with players such as Jamie Vardy and Danny Drinkwater at second division level, ive backed him long enough but these aren't terrible players, we've seen masses of quality from them, and he's not got the best out of any of them. None. Don't blame the players 

[Chivs]

5 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

If you can't find a single one then you're not looking at all

Go on.  Name it.

[Dan Robin]

4 minutes ago, Denbury Red said:

We’ve apparently had 13 shots!!

Drunk players? It explains our performance. 

[robin for life]

Poor performance all round.

Wells again looks good off the bench.

Semenyo is good build up, but final decision making is lacking.

Playing 2 strikers in midfield in Wells and Wiemann when Martin offering nothing up top. Hope we start with Wiemann and Wells up top on Saturday.

Massengo was awful, nearly as bad as James.

What's happened to Andy King?

[2015]

1 minute ago, Banjo Red said:

It seems that way makes you wonder where we go from here.

We'll hear the same stuff Nigel will come out with i'm sure. 

We'll also hear from the owner in April time somewhen saying how he is proud of the HPC and how many youngsters have made the grade this season and more guff soundbites that mean nothing i'm sure.

And get rid of that god awful new badge we have Makes us look even more a joke outfit.

[Spike]

7 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

If you can find positives in Pearson, you have looked too hard

Would you say that since he came in our youth has not come along alot?

I'm as frustrated as anyone but we've seen some huge improvements in our youth. The crazy thing is of the defence was performing we would actually have a very solid team. Yes, there are weaknesses but without a shadow of a doubt our real issue is in defence. 

My hope is based on that we have no right backs at the club, this creates more pressure and takes away crucial formations as options so I want to see what we can do if Pearson can bring in the players to create actual balance in the squad. For me he has this summer to bring those players in, if he doesn't do that then I feel he'll have to go but there's no point in sacking him right now as he's essentially had a season with key positions having major issues. 

[IAmNick]

2 minutes ago, Chivs said:

Go on.  Name it.

  

3 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

No I have looked there are none. We are dreadful even after the summer clear out. Pearson ain’t the one

 

Any positive?

The huge improvement of Semenyo, Scott, Pring, and Massengo for a good chunk of the season?

Tonight was pretty awful but if you're saying there have been NO positives to his appointment at all you're utterly blinkered.

Edited March 15, 2022 by IAmNick

[Numero Uno]

Just now, RedNachos said:

with players such as Jamie Vardy and Danny Drinkwater at second division level, ive backed him long enough but these aren't terrible players, we've seen masses of quality from them, and he's not got the best out of any of them. None. Don't blame the players 

Don't blame the players? In a way, no, but not for your reasoning........very few of them are anywhere near the level. Masses of quality......have you been on LSD? Because you must be the only person in Bristol that has spotted that.................

[RedRaw]

1 minute ago, TomF said:

If you look at the stats on sky sports you’d think (if you’d not watched the game!) that we’d been the better side. 
 

Just goes to show stats mean nothing as I have just witnessed one of the most dire team performance for a long time….. unfortunately, I have been saying that to myself too many times over the past 3 years.

[Curr Avon]

City had enough of the ball and 16 shots on goal, but lacked real cohesion after Williams' exit with what appeared to be tight hamstrings. The positional changes bemused me at 0-2. Atkinson to left-back and Dasilva to right back when Pring could have replaced Scott. Wells for Williams was another. Would another midfield body in Vyner have been a better option, freeing James. It all looked a bit of a mess despite the gung-ho finish that deserved a consolation. Oh well, where's that corner coach?

[Gazred]

Depressionball.

That is all.

[Robin-hugh-blind]

Only positive for tonight is that Derby are closer to going down. 

That was a bad even for us. 

 

[bexhill reds]

1 minute ago, Banjo Red said:

Let's see what Nige has to say about that.

I guess it will be some reference to the drive and commitment of individuals in the team, we’ve not had the bus analogy for a while….

Far too many average at best performances from individuals who should be better. Not sure that HNM looks as committed as previously, at least we had some drive through Williams. 
 

I can’t say that apart from Williams there was anyone playing that was really battling and fighting like the Barnsley team, and that ultimately was the difference. One team wanted it more, and that is concerning.

[Daniro]

I am absolutely disgusted with that performance.   12 months have passed and again we are subjected to clueless half witted error prone rubbish.    Shocking defending, absent midfield, poor finishing,  injury upon injury.    No progress whatsoever.   

[Ska Junkie]

3 minutes ago, TomF said:

If you look at the stats on sky sports you’d think (if you’d not watched the game!) that we’d been the better side. 
 

3 shots on target? I'm struggling to remember 3 shots let alone 3 on target. 

Erm, James had one which ended up in Huddersfield, Jay had one which is just about to leave the earth's orbit and Antione skied one, that's all I remember. 

[Bedred31]

On the plus side, I normally feel angry and frustrated when the season ends, as usually it’s an opportunity missed or a chance squandered. Finishing this one’s going to be great- survival, which is the main thing and not a given, mixed with the sheer joy and relief of not having to watch this team twice a week. Strangely, this could end up feeling like the best season for a few years. 

[Ivorguy]

I have come to the conclusion that I must have done something really bad in a previous life to be reborn as a City fan

[Mr Popodopolous]

That was not good- dipped in and out but I wasn't really expecting much tonight tbh which sounds strange given Barnsley's position but they have been in better form and with a better overall performance level in recent weeks,.

Scott, Williams and Semenyo all injured?!

[ralphindevon]

I wonder if we’ll ever get to post Christmas and have something to look forward to.

I wonder if we’ll get to March and not be wishing the season over.

Why can’t we have nice things? 

[cidercity1987]

5 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Is that the Barnsley who have only lost 1 in the last 6 and drew with Fuham in there last game

We drew with Fulham at home twice this season and are also terrible btw

[Superjack]

2 minutes ago, Tafkarmlf said:

NP has to go, first time I've said that directly I think. 

Pointless you saying it though, being as you wanted him out of the door before he got here.

[RedRock]

Better coached side, with better players won…….we deserved nothing against what will probably soon be a League 1 side.

Same old mistakes and problems on and off the pitch. We ain’t going nowhere unless we learn and change things, which we appear totally incapable of doing. 

 Not good enough. 
 

[Bodiesaffer]

2 minutes ago, RedNachos said:

with players such as Jamie Vardy and Danny Drinkwater at second division level, ive backed him long enough but these aren't terrible players, we've seen masses of quality from them, and he's not got the best out of any of them. None. Don't blame the players 

I disagree, they couldn’t even pass the ball in front of a team mate.  Once they step across the white line it’s the players and that was another bad bad day at the office.

 

 

 

 

[blockbrowt1]

Embarrassing and we have WBA Sat. God help us.

[robin for life]

Sacking Pearson would achieve absolutely nothing. There is no one worth bringing in to replace him. The only logical choice would be Warnock, but there would go all the youth development.  We're not going down so be glad of that. Lets see what the summer brings, albeit I don't hold out much hope, but keep changing the manager isn't the solution. 

[CHAZ MICHAELS]

Just now, Daniro said:

I am absolutely disgusted with that performance.   12 months have passed and again we are subjected to clueless half witted error prone rubbish.    Shocking defending, absent midfield, poor finishing,  injury upon injury.    No progress whatsoever.   

I think you've summed it up quite nicely.

[Tonks55]

4 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Why the **** would he come to us after watching this haha.

I agree - why would anyone want to come to us?

To build a team that would show a (consistent) improvement on the dross we serve up then we need to attract players with a desire to play and not a desire to come here and earn a wadge of money. It is arrogant of the club (and its supporters) to think that all it needs to do is 'flash the cash'. This is how clubs on much smaller resources outperform us, consistently. We need a manager that can create such an atmosphere/ethos at the club - it's been missing since Cotterill.  

[Kodjias Wrist]

I predicted a defeat tonight due to home comforts for Barnsley and an upturn in form. I didn't quite expect that level of performance though. This season has been a really tough one watching city. I am either fearful of a late goal which happens every few games or set pieces, not being able to win 2 in a row and the frustration of not getting penalties and major decisions going against us.

The only positive is that we have cut the wage bill and got some young lads game time. Other than the young trio of Scott, Massengo and Semenyo (the latter two sub par in recent games) and Weimann one of the top scorers in the league, what other value do we have?

[David Brent]

I thought Nigel wanted to play 4 at the back? Not sure why he doesn’t stick with it. There was no need for Klose, Cundy and Atkinson. Especially if none of them are going to be effective defending set pieces. 

Edited March 15, 2022 by David Brent

[bexhill reds]

4 minutes ago, robin for life said:

Poor performance all round.

Wells again looks good off the bench.

Semenyo is good build up, but final decision making is lacking.

Playing 2 strikers in midfield in Wells and Wiemann when Martin offering nothing up top. Hope we start with Wiemann and Wells up top on Saturday.

Massengo was awful, nearly as bad as James.

What's happened to Andy King?

Andy King is broken again… Not sure if his contract is up at the end of the season, but probably time for him to move on. 

[BS4 on Tour...]

10 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

All managers like to spend other peoples’ money

 

10 minutes ago, Fuber said:

All CEO’s like to spend other peoples’ money

Fixed that for you.

Absolutely no reason to ‘fix’ Pongo88’s post?! I thought he or she was spot on with their original ‘unfixed’ post - it’s actually quite annoying when people feel the need to ‘fix’ someone’s post by editing it ... 

[Lordofthebling]

1 minute ago, Daniro said:

I am absolutely disgusted with that performance.   12 months have passed and again we are subjected to clueless half witted error prone rubbish.    Shocking defending, absent midfield, poor finishing,  injury upon injury.    No progress whatsoever.   

Yep but we will have another air clearing, another random youngster thrown in the team as a round peg in a square hole, rub forehead, chuckle, lose, rinse and repeat... 

[Ivorguy]

2 minutes ago, robin for life said:

Sacking Pearson would achieve absolutely nothing. There is no one worth bringing in to replace him. The only logical choice would be Warnock, but there would go all the youth development.  We're not going down so be glad of that. Lets see what the summer brings, albeit I don't hold out much hope, but keep changing the manager isn't the solution. 

Nothing will fundamentally change until the owner goes

How many more decades of failure on the pitch and poor admin off it?

[RedNachos]

1 minute ago, Numero Uno said:

Don't blame the players? In a way, no, but not for your reasoning........very few of them are anywhere near the level. Masses of quality......have you been on LSD? Because you must be the only person in Bristol that has spotted that.................

Im not saying we're prime Barcelona but 

Semenyo - bags 20 goals for nearly all the sides in the division

A confident Massengo - runs rings around mid table and below teams

Scott - starts in his correct position for any side in the league 

Kalas - internationally appears to be a prem standard player, so he has something, why cant Pearson find it?

JD, Pring, Williams, Bentley, - start for 75% of Champ clubs

Confident Vyner, Confident Atkinson, Confident Wells, who knows, even confident Palmer? - solid championship players 

 

Underperforming players that all being well get this side pushing for more than top half. Why aren't they? 

 

 

 

[maxjak]

5 minutes ago, Spike said:

People keep saying this but look at United. You know they have talent, they've gone through multiple managers and don't perform anywhere near the level they can. 

It's all good to blame the manager but sometimes there are just too many players rocking the boat to get the team playing well. 

I have no idea who we would bring in if Pearson goes, I actually think that may be the final straw that sees us relegated because if these players won't play for Pearson I don't see them playing for anyone else. 

Neither you nor I have any idea what goes on behind the scenes?  Who is to say that a young organised coach, who actually spends time on the training pitch, rather than delegating, might not turn this team around, and get them to play attractive winning football?  It is obviously impossible to say?, but I certainly do not have the same faith in Pearson that you seem to have?  I personally think that NP is past his sell by date, and I still cannot fathom why he was given a 3 year contract?  13 months into his project, and we have seemingly made very little progress....but it appears we are stuck with him?

[Northern Red]

16 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

If you can find positives in Pearson, you have looked too hard

Where were you at the weekend? 

[Dodgy_Giefer]

Total disaster. We’d have been better off forfeiting the game.

[Finley_Smith10]

Think it’s a joke how us fans are allowed to accept the dire state of the team for the past 3 seasons. Why is it acceptable to be this bad when there a far smaller teams who are capable of showing some commitment and getting good results