West Bromwich Albion at home match day thread

[Bedred31]

To be fair, we got a 93rd minute winner last week. All in all, NP’s had a decent few days. I thought we’d lose today, with a 50:50 chance of a hammering. Very happy last Saturday, pissed off on Tuesday, perfectly content today. Would like more, always, but can’t complain tonight.

[054123]

Just now, Numero Uno said:

I think we can all agree it was nothing to do with “coaching” today. Nobody “coaches” the goalkeeper to throw a right cross in a players face or to lose their man in injury time. Defending corners was something we did improve today.

Yep.

Almost there.

Huge summer ahead.

[Red_Alligator]

Very frustrating to concede yet another late goal. I suppose most of us would have gladly taken a point at 3pm, but even so, you need to concentrate lads!!!!

[nickolas]

I actually thought we defended well all game. 
But somehow we make looking quite comfortable turn into 2 conceded once again!

[chinapig]

10 minutes ago, keflav said:

Gonna disagree with most on here who are throwing there toys out of the pram, we played well and we mighty unlucky to concede right at the end a lucky deflected ball through latched onto by there player. if ball goes anywhere else we clear the ball its just how are luck is going this season... lets be honest we would have taken a point from today and that's what we got, yes we were winning and should have held on but its another point toward safety and a very welcome point...

WBA to be fairly got a soft pen and scored late on otherwise we could of won that game (we are not getting any luck this season keeping fingers crossed its due us next season)... a much better performance and something to build upon... 

Except that we tend not to build on better performances but go back to square one. I hope that might change but recent history suggests it won't. 

[Sturny]

2 minutes ago, 054123 said:

Yep.

Almost there.

Huge summer ahead.

I feel like we say that every summer 

[Bobby kellard hero]

We were safe when we won last week.I don’t know why everyone is moaning.I enjoyed the game more than most this season.We did alright.

[Roger Red Hat]

27 minutes ago, HoldenBall said:

Match or better two results of Barnsley’s and were probably save 

I was being sarcastic.

[DaveF]

I'd have bitten your arm off for 2-2 before the match, Great result.

[HoldenBall]

8 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said:

I was being sarcastic.

I’m not I wouldn’t put it past this team to get sucked in a relegation battle with a few games to go 

[pillred]

Just now, HoldenBall said:

I’m not I wouldn’t put it past this team to get sucked in a relegation battle with a few games to go 

I would definitely have a bet on that if I were you as the odds would be so good you could probably retire to the Maldives.

[richyy66]

Can't understand why we didn't waste time with a couple of subs in injury time. It would of broke the play up and allowed for some composure.

[italian dave]

The story of our season today. Penalties and conceding goals in injury time.

It was quite ironic that it was Pring who found himself free to break down the left with a minute or two left. You could see visions of Preston going through his mind as he switched direction and headed for the corner flag. And we still conceded. 

[Numero Uno]

12 minutes ago, HoldenBall said:

I’m not I wouldn’t put it past this team to get sucked in a relegation battle with a few games to go 

To put it in perspective, Peterborough need to win 7 and draw 1 out of 9, Derby need to win 6 and draw 1 of 7 and Barnsley need to win 5 out of 8…..and that’s if we lose all 7 of our remaining matches. Chill out and have a cider I reckon!!

[bexhill reds]

1 minute ago, Numero Uno said:

To put it in perspective, Peterborough need to win 7 and draw 1 out of 9, Derby need to win 6 and draw 1 of 7 and Barnsley need to win 5 out of 8…..and that’s if we lose all 7 of our remaining matches. Chill out and have a cider I reckon!!

Yes, I’d be taking a good look at Asian betting syndicates if there was a set of results that got us relegated

[italian dave]

2 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

To put it in perspective, Peterborough need to win 7 and draw 1 out of 9, Derby need to win 6 and draw 1 of 7 and Barnsley need to win 5 out of 8…..and that’s if we lose all 7 of our remaining matches. Chill out and have a cider I reckon!!

And we’ve still got to play Peterborough and Derby.

Oh….hang on…

[bearded_red]

I’d love to know where people think this group of players should be in the table.

I’d also like to know how people think we should be getting on against WBA (even taking into account how dire they appeared today).

[EstoniaTallinnRed]

1 hour ago, downendcity said:

I don't know the numbers, but I reckon the points we've dropped due to conceding in added time this season would have us close to the play offs.

 

I heard it was 20 points.

[exAtyeoMax]

I'm just really angry that it happened. I don't really buy that "I would have taken a point before the game" type of stuff, we were winning up to the last minute of the game.

I thought WBA were pretty poor to be honest.

[italian dave]

1 hour ago, Colemanballs said:

Why do people feel the need to find a scapegoat  when we concede? From where I was sitting, it was a really good bit of play by them.

 

1 hour ago, MarcusX said:

If we scored that goal it’s fair to say we wouldn’t be talking about bad defending. It was a good goal

I agree..but only to a point. We contributed to making that look like a good goal. West Brom are not a great passing side, and they'd been making sloppy passes all game. But the way we retreated faster than they came at us allowed them to pass freely and without challenge - even they couldn't mess that up.. The three of us could have put together a slick passing move over 60-70 yards.

[David Brent]

I thought we did very well. Undone by a good goal that happened to be in 90th minute 

We could’ve done better with the ball in the corner .

Not interested in blaming anyone. It’s boring and I’m tired of the same old people crying about it. 

[Top Robin]

2 minutes ago, David Brent said:

I thought we did very well. Undone by a good goal that happened to be in 90th minute 

We could’ve done better with the ball in the corner .

Not interested in blaming anyone. It’s boring and I’m tired of the same old people crying about it. 

Some of us are bored and tired of it happening. 

[David Brent]

1 minute ago, Top Robin said:

Some of us are bored and tired of it happening. 

Wah wah  

[cidercity1987]

Just seen the penalty  

Even less of a penalty (perhaps even a foul to us for climbing first) than I might have imagined. Did Bentley even touch him?!

Let's just say based on luck evening itself out with ref decisions we are on for automatic promotion next season with about 20 pens.

There is zero chance absolutely zero that any ref would give us a penalty like that this season and the saddest thing is how the players management and club just seem to accept it.

[sh1t_ref_again]

5 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Just seen the penalty  

Even less of a penalty (perhaps even a foul to us for climbing first) than I might have imagined. Did Bentley even touch him?!

Let's just say based on luck evening itself out with ref decisions we are on for automatic promotion next season with about 20 pens.

There is zero chance absolutely zero that any ref would give us a penalty like that this season and the saddest thing is how the players management and club just seem to accept it.

Just watched it about 10 times and cannot work out what he has given it for, perhaps someone can let me know. Although ref was buying the diving and giving very soft free kicks all game.

[HappyClapper]

7 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Just watched it about 10 times and cannot work out what he has given it for, perhaps someone can let me know. Although ref was buying the diving and giving very soft free kicks all game.

Bentley missed the ball and punched their player in the face. Unfortunate, but definitely a penalty.

[Northern Red]

1 hour ago, Numero Uno said:

To put it in perspective, Peterborough need to win 7 and draw 1 out of 9, Derby need to win 6 and draw 1 of 7 and Barnsley need to win 5 out of 8…..and that’s if we lose all 7 of our remaining matches. Chill out and have a cider I reckon!!

Barnsley and Peterborough still have to play each other as well, plus Barnsley play Reading.

[GrahamC]

15 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Just watched it about 10 times and cannot work out what he has given it for, perhaps someone can let me know. Although ref was buying the diving and giving very soft free kicks all game.

He was shocking, allowed their centre backs to foul Martin at every opportunity & gave them absolutely everything.

We had 2 penalty shouts but wouldn’t have been awarded one even if a defender had picked the ball up.

Edited March 19, 2022 by GrahamC

[A Horse With No Name]

3 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

He was shocking, allowed their centre backs to foul Martin at every opportunity & gave them absolutely everything.

We had 2 penalty shouts but wouldn’t have been awarded one if even if a defender had picked the ball up.

He really didn't. Yes, he was picky and whistle happy but I would say the free kicks were about equal in number.

edit. Just looked and it was 16-15 to them.

Edited March 19, 2022 by The Horse With No Name

[Banjo Red]

2 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

He was shocking, allowed their centre backs to foul Martin at every opportunity & gave them absolutely everything.

We had 2 penalty shouts but wouldn’t have been awarded one even if a defender had picked the ball up.

Officials were awful ball went out off their player for a corner, goal kick given.

[RedM]

2 hours ago, Gazred said:

Really feel gutted for Weimann, that should of been the winner. Great finish.

That’s exactly what I said too. I thought we had done enough to win that match, and I don’t think I have said that too many times this season. 

I feel quite positive tonight though. Look at the players WBA had at their disposal and look at our team made mostly of youngsters and vastly inexperience, and we almost beat them.

[WECANDO]

2 hours ago, Woofyourkipper said:

same old city,you cant blame the manager,its the players out there at the death,how many we conceded going to sleep in last few minutes this season

 

I  blame his lack of tactics in that there we were with 3 minutes of extra time to play. Now a manager with a clear brain would see those 3 minutes out by being disruptive. By that I mean use subs when extra time starts, then again a minute later. Also get the players to foul a bit when the ball is near the half way line. Again to break WBA's play. Crazy

[pongo88]

15 minutes ago, WECANDO said:

I  blame his lack of tactics in that there we were with 3 minutes of extra time to play. Now a manager with a clear brain would see those 3 minutes out by being disruptive. By that I mean use subs when extra time starts, then again a minute later. Also get the players to foul a bit when the ball is near the half way line. Again to break WBA's play. Crazy

I agree with you though, unfortunately, it sounds like Neil Warnock’s tactics. He’s not liked by quite a few on the forum even though his tactics win matches 

[Davefevs]

2 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said:

How many stoppage time goals conceded this season? Any know?

@Davefevs you’re normally good for a stat.

I’m very much still in support of Pearson but for me this consistent failure of game management is one of his biggest and most disappointing failings to date.

It appears it’s now frowned upon to convey stats on OTIB in a spreadsheet…so sorry you’ll have to make with your own guesswork.

[actually I don’t track it]

[sh1t_ref_again]

58 minutes ago, HappyClapper said:

Bentley missed the ball and punched their player in the face. Unfortunate, but definitely a penalty.

But that was after the player had played the ball

[Gazred]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

It appears it’s now frowned upon to convey stats on OTIB in a spreadsheet…so sorry you’ll have to make with your own guesswork.

[actually I don’t track it]

BBC has us at 8 times after 89 mins in their match report.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60717015

@ChippenhamRed

Edited March 19, 2022 by Gazred

[nickolas]

Steve Bruce moaning about the pitch because of rugby the night before. I thought it looked perfect!

what a w&£ker that bloke is. Clearly related to his w&£ker brother, the ref too!

Edited March 19, 2022 by nickolas

[swanker]

Really enjoyed the game today and thought we played well. There’s not a manager in the country who could have got any more from the players available. Shame about conceding late on though. 

[Genghis Khan's pants]

Apologies if it's already been mentioned but wasn't the player who laid the ball off for there player to equalise offside? Just gets even more frustrating!

[Wrongagain]

1 hour ago, swanker said:

Really enjoyed the game today and thought we played well. There’s not a manager in the country who could have got any more from the players available. Shame about conceding late on though. 

Initial pass for Reach’ goal was offside- confirmed by sky - Lino out of position so could not see it! Usual shit officials cost us (all 3 of them)

[Numero Uno]

2 minutes ago, dave36 said:

Initial pass for Reach’ goal was offside- confirmed by sky - Lino out of position so could not see it! Usual shit officials cost us (all 3 of them)

I’m sure Mike Jones will be very sorry though.

[Mr Popodopolous]

Watched it on Quest.

On one hand cleaning out the player is penalty worthy. Otoh Bartley was it- the WBA player anyway- headed the ball BEFORE being fouled.

We certainly could have had one of our own, the handball I didn't see so well- could Livermore have also received a red for his challenge on Weimann or was a yellow fair enough?

[Offside]

I would have taken a draw before the game, but it’s sickening to lose 2 points to yet another late goal. 

I thought we were dreadful for the first 20 mins and couldn’t string two passes together. Wells’ goal gave us impetus and from then on we played well and deserved the win.  

WBA were disappointing - they looked very average and created little. 

Defensively we looked more solid today and Wells had a good game. 

Loads more positives today. 

[Dr Balls]

If you want to see positives both of our goals today made the Sky Sports highlights clip for goals of the weekend (only team to get 2 included…) : 

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12570886/efl-goals-of-the-weekend

[firstdivision]

1 hour ago, dave36 said:

Initial pass for Reach’ goal was offside- confirmed by sky - Lino out of position so could not see it! Usual shit officials cost us (all 3 of them)

Yes, Livermore was offside.

[DaveF]

5 hours ago, Top Robin said:

Some of us are bored and tired of it happening. 

I think you've picked the wrong football team to support.

[City oz]

1 hour ago, Dr Balls said:

If you want to see positives both of our goals today made the Sky Sports highlights clip for goals of the weekend (only team to get 2 included…) : 

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/12570886/efl-goals-of-the-weekend

Can not get this link in OZ.

[sh1t_ref_again]

Not trying to knock Bents as he has done well since coming back in, but punching the ball (and the player got us in trouble), the penalty came from a recycled ball that Bents had punched out with 2 fists on it, if you can punch with both hands could you not have caught it, although I guess you have the chance of dropping it.

I know punching out seems to be the modern way, but personally think keepers punch too much even when they could have caught.

[Kibs]

It’s probably not as bad as it seems and we’ve likely had a few go our way too but we do seem to have been on the wrong end of a ridiculous number of incorrect/bad decisions this season.

[Southport Red]

Was out all day yesterday and so missed all details of the match, bar the score and goal times which I get on my phone. Can someone please tell me what happened to Antoine?  Subbed on 6 mins so obviously an injury, did it look bad?  Is he another we won’t see again this year?  Cheers. 

[RedM]

22 minutes ago, Southport Red said:

Was out all day yesterday and so missed all details of the match, bar the score and goal times which I get on my phone. Can someone please tell me what happened to Antoine?  Subbed on 6 mins so obviously an injury, did it look bad?  Is he another we won’t see again this year?  Cheers. 

I didn’t see it as it was away from play, possibly he slipped and seemed to have hurt his knee. Last week at Blackburn in the warm up he certainly slipped and landed heavily, again it seemed to be his knee. I think he had a knee operation in the Summer so maybe things aren’t quite right, or it’s psychological?

As I said I am only guessing, maybe someone saw for certain. Several players from both sides seemed to be slipping a lot yesterday, more than usual. Don’t think that had anything to do with the rugby being played the ev3ning before though as the pitch looked pretty perfect, if wet.

 

[Davefevs]

1 minute ago, RedM said:

I didn’t see it as it was away from play, possibly he slipped and seemed to have hurt his knee. Last week at Blackburn in the warm up he certainly slipped and landed heavily, again it seemed to be his knee. I think he had a knee operation in the Summer so maybe things aren’t quite right, or it’s psychological?

As I said I am only guessing, maybe someone saw for certain. Several players from both sides seemed to be slipping a lot yesterday, more than usual. Don’t think that had anything to do with the rugby being played the ev3ning before though as the pitch looked pretty perfect, if wet.

 

Ball got played into his feet, he was coming short, he laid it off, spun away then went down in a heap.  No tackle or anything.

 

[Jerseybean]

18 hours ago, Colemanballs said:

What about beyond 85 minutes?

Points dropped / gained due to goals (in the last five minutes + additional time of games) this season

Home to Blackpool - 2 points they equalized in the 93 minute

Home to Luton - 2 points they equalized in the 91 minute

Away to QPR + 2 points we scored in the 93 minute

Home to Forest - 3 points they scored in the 91 and 92 minutes

Away to Coventry - 1 point they scored in the 92 minute

Away to Hull + 1 point we equalized in the 91 minute

Home to QPR - 1 point they scored in the 93 minute

Home to Millwall +2 points we scored in the 85 minute

Home to Coventry - 1 point they scored in the 89 minute

Away to Blackburn + 2 points we scored in the 92 minute

Home to WBA - 0 points (both teams scored beyond 85 minutes)

10 points lost, 7 points gained, overall 3 points lost

 

18 hours ago, Colemanballs said:

[Southport Red]

6 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Ball got played into his feet, he was coming short, he laid it off, spun away then went down in a heap.  No tackle or anything.

 

Thanks @Davefevs,@RedM