Could it be LJ "unfinished business"

[Waconda]

They wouldn't, would they ?

[Negan]

Wouldn’t surprise me if that’s what happened. 

[Sheltons Army]

If they were as backward and stupid as you

 

 

 

Absolutely

 

 

* About time you started another new thread for a bit more attention 

* Pro

 

[Wiltshire robin]

I appreciate that he put lots of effort and basically spent all his free time on Bristol city whilst he was manager but would be pissed if he come back , but wouldn’t be surprised 

[REDOXO]

Luckily I don’t see a thing from the original poster. But I can’t block thread titles. That sucks!

[Slacker]

Great idea.Bring back all the Lee's.Johnson,Trundle,Matthews,Miller,Tomlin,roy Lita.....

[Waconda]

2 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

Luckily I don’t see a thing from the original poster. But I can’t block thread titles. That sucks!

Brilliant !

[Bristol Oil Services]

@Davefevs said they are, so I think yer answer is: wood

[YGBjammy]

At first I thought I'd be pissed off. But then I realised it would be the most "us" thing ever.

Then I started to realise that we haven't actually been as high in the league as we were under LJ. To think, we were annoyed that we were knocking on the door of the playoffs but not getting in?! 

 

Edit: to clarify, I definitely think it would be a super dumb idea

Edited April 9, 2022 by YGBjammy

[Tin Soldier]

10 minutes ago, Waconda said:

They wouldn't, would they ?

There would be a massive drop in ST sales if he came back. But it is the sort of mistake SL would make (again).

[cidercity1987]

Watched some highlights of us in 2018/19 the other day

Night and day better than any of the shit served up since he left

 

[Waconda]

1 minute ago, Tin Soldier said:

There would be a massive drop in ST sales if he came back. But it is the sort of mistake SL would make (again).

Hmmm not sure about that myself, with the already highly advertised relegation battle and the prospect of another season of this, they will be haemorrhaging ST sales as it is now. 

Not saying it would be a good idea but disagree on lower ST sales as a reason.

[MarcusX]

12 minutes ago, YGBjammy said:

At first I thought I'd be pissed off. But then I realised it would be the most "us" thing ever.

Then I started to realise that we haven't actually been as high in the league as we were under LJ. To think, we were annoyed that we were knocking on the door of the playoffs but not getting in?! 

 

Edit: to clarify, I definitely think it would be a super dumb idea

 

5 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Watched some highlights of us in 2018/19 the other day

Night and day better than any of the shit served up since he left

 

Those years are criminally underrated by some.

Clearly the club has been left in the shit and I don’t think that’s all Lees fault, but on the pitch we overachieved compared to our recent history (eg last 40 years). He just couldn’t get us over the line.

We also put in some very, very good performances for a couple of years. The peak probably being the 2 semi final legs

[pongo88]

[Pezo]

I think he would be a good coach working under a manager like NP, NP would manage him and cut out most of his bullshit but we would also get the benefits of his efforts.

Would be interesting how he coached players that weren't so weak minded.

[Engvall’s Splinter]

17 minutes ago, Waconda said:

Hmmm not sure about that myself, with the already highly advertised relegation battle and the prospect of another season of this, they will be haemorrhaging ST sales as it is now. 

Not saying it would be a good idea but disagree on lower ST sales as a reason.

100% lower season ticket sales. 
 

God no !

[REDOXO]

1 minute ago, Pezo said:

I think he would be a good coach working under a manager like NP, NP would manage him and cut out most of his bullshit but we would also get the benefits of his efforts.

Would be interesting how he coached players that weren't so weak minded.

LJ was weak minded and weak with his players. 
 

Listen to the Wilbo interview!

[tin]

LJ had three years left on the deal he signed in 2019 when he left us, happily took a seven-figure pay-off after playing a huge role in dismantling Cotts’ squad and increasing costs with his clubs-in-the-bag approach.

He should never have got the job in the first place, a second time would be suicidal for the club. Assistant coach, fine. Head coach, no. 

Another crock of shit from Waconda / VT etc

[Northern Red]

As I said when this was raised the other day, re-appointing LJ would effectively be SL admitting that Ashton was the problem and was allowed to be so. And I don't think SL does acknowledgment of his mistakes.

[Sheltons Army]

5 minutes ago, tin said:

LJ had three years left on the deal he signed in 2019 when he left us, happily took a seven-figure pay-off after playing a huge role in dismantling Cotts’ squad and increasing costs with his clubs-in-the-bag approach.

He should never have got the job in the first place, a second time would be suicidal for the club. Assistant coach, fine. Head coach, no. 

Another crock of shit from Waconda / VT etc

Please don’t insult the resident pro

 

[glynriley]

42 minutes ago, Waconda said:

They wouldn't, would they ?

SL - Hello Lee, we made a mistake, fancy coming back?

LJ - Sure, what’s my budget?

SL - nothing sorry mate, we’re skint…hello, Lee are you still there?…Lee?…

SL sobs….

[plumb]

5 minutes ago, tin said:

LJ had three years left on the deal he signed in 2019 when he left us, happily took a seven-figure pay-off after playing a huge role in dismantling Cotts’ squad and increasing costs with his clubs-in-the-bag approach.

He should never have got the job in the first place, a second time would be suicidal for the club. Assistant coach, fine. Head coach, no. 

Another crock of shit from Waconda / VT etc

How dare Lee Johnson dismantle Cotts squad that was heading towards relegation, and build a squad that challanged at the top end of the Championship, our best finishes in 40 years. At the same time making large transfer profits.  Terrible manager.

[Street red]

Move on! Pearsons our manager no more cozy club.

[Top Robin]

1 hour ago, Waconda said:

They wouldn't, would they ?

Made I laugh!

[milo1111]

49 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Watched some highlights of us in 2018/19 the other day

Night and day better than any of the shit served up since he left

 

Budget, budget , budget

[Citychuds]

7 minutes ago, Street red said:

Move on! Pearsons our manager no more cozy club.

Nope no more cozy and no more winning

[One Team]

Sacking Pearson and reappointing LJ is exactly the sort of nepotism based decision SL would make. It’s not even a funny thread, it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest. 

[AshtonRobin21]

I actually had this conversation with a colleague in work earlier this week. 

We were discussing where we currently are as a club, and what would happen if Nige were to leave/be sacked. 

We highlighted our own opinions as to who we would like to take over, and the many factors that would play a part in that appointment (finances being the main one).

I would personally like to see us go down the route that MK Dons have gone, where a young manager with a clear style of play is appointed, with a recruitment policy in place. MK Dons have had an excellent season, and a large contributing factor is that they sign talented young players, whose contracts have expired and are signed for small compensation fees. Scott Twine being the stand out example. Kane Wilson (Forest Green - Right Back) would be an example of who would be available this upcoming summer window. Combined with this are players promoted from the academy, something we are well stocked with as the likes of Scott, Pring, Bell and Conway have shown. 

However, we agreed that this type of appointment is unlikely to happen under SL and JL's leadership. Instead they are likely to revert to Johnson as he is out of work, and we have been on the decline since he has left. 

NOW BY NO MEANS DO I WANT THAT TO HAPPEN!!...  but it does seem like a decision Steve and Jon would be likely to make. 

Luton and Peterborough are examples of clubs that have reverted to previous managers that fit the ownerships wants/needs. 

Luton being the positive example, a hugely successful season, positive football that has been embedded over a number of seasons, and has seen them develop at a rapid rate. 

Peterborough being the other, and more likely mirroring where we currently are as a club. 

SL and JL have both proved over their tenure to enjoy 'comfort'. Minimal risk, and a manager who is aligned to their way of thinking, and likely to follow the way that they want the club to run.

Now history shows during his previous tenure, that Johnson likes to spend excessive amounts of money. Was Mark Ashton a driving force in this? Was Johnson on board with all signings? (Chelsea loaners etc.). I would certainly be interested to see him work on minimal/no spend. 

Yet, during his time at Barnsley and Oldham, LJ developed a reputation for developing talent, and securing bargains that represented future value. 

There's no doubting that towards the end of his time with us, the football on show was utter dross. We were struggling to show any attacking intent, and the fighting spirit we once showed was gone. 

For years rumours have circulated that SL is not keen on signing former players. Albert Adomah, Cole Skuse, and many others have been rumoured to be close to re-signing for the club, but SL has reportedly blocked the moves. Would the same apply for a former manager? 

We know that the SL has spoken publicly of how well he gets on with Gary and Lee Johnson. I can't help but get the feeling that we will be seeing LJ return at some point in the future. 

[And Its Smith]

2 hours ago, Waconda said:

They wouldn't, would they ?

What’s your previous username ?

[JoeAman08]

Idk part of me would like to see LJ with no MA. LJ was more the Szmodics, Brownhill and Webster signings it felt. Whereas Ashton was the Palmer, Wells and Dasilva signings. 
 

Then I think of how much I grew to hate listening to him after every game. How fast our form could go from promotion level to relegation level. And mostly how rough the ending was. 
 

There could be a time where LJ can come back but think it is too soon to really consider that. 

[Lrrr]

44 minutes ago, JoeAman08 said:

Idk part of me would like to see LJ with no MA. LJ was more the Szmodics, Brownhill and Webster signings it felt. Whereas Ashton was the Palmer, Wells and Dasilva signings. 
 

Then I think of how much I grew to hate listening to him after every game. How fast our form could go from promotion level to relegation level. And mostly how rough the ending was. 
 

There could be a time where LJ can come back but think it is too soon to really consider that. 

Wasn’t the story LJ had to be convinced for a long time for the club to sign Szmodics and wasn’t keen on him, whereas he wanted Kasey if he could get a full pre season with him and instead got given him shortly before the season 

[Mendip City]

7 hours ago, Lrrr said:

Wasn’t the story LJ had to be convinced for a long time for the club to sign Szmodics and wasn’t keen on him, whereas he wanted Kasey if he could get a full pre season with him and instead got given him shortly before the season 

Agree.  Also, LJ had final sign off on all signings. How do I know? He said!!!! They were all his signings. 
If Ashton forced them on him, that shows LJ as weak - another reason to not go near him! 

[Lrrr]

12 minutes ago, Mendip City said:

Agree.  Also, LJ had final sign off on all signings. How do I know? He said!!!! They were all his signings. 
If Ashton forced them on him, that shows LJ as weak - another reason to not go near him! 

Head coaches/managers say a lot and not always the truth, I believe Szmodics was a Ashton signing because he saw the potential of profit in Szmodics, Johnson’s quote at the time was along the lines that he had to be convinced but the stats presented made the case of someone they had to sign 

[fatchers]

Won't be long before we get a suggestion that Gary Johnson as manager and Lee as his assistant would be on the cards. The dream team.  God help us.

[Akira]

8 hours ago, And Its Smith said:

What’s your previous username ?

Really would help if people could see previous usernames so people can be held accountable for things they've previously said. It keeps coming up, can it be a 'thing'? @TomF

There's a few of them on here who frequently change their username (Ralph Milne instantly springs to mind) and come out of the woodwork whenever we've not won due to their vendetta against the manager , spouting utter drivel and trying to stir up shit & negativity on here. 

No one is saying the football or quality is great, but given what he's had to work with (the square root of **** all) compared to previous managers, we'd be in a heck of a lot worse spot than we are now. 

Fans demanding success when not grasping the realisation of the crap we're in. It wasn't long ago when there was talk of a points deduction because of us failing FFP so badly. Yet people think we should be buying/signing loads in the summer, having a full on rebuild? 

We lack quality. We pay extortionately high wages, with a poor return. Not sure what some of these blinkered fans expect, other than blood it seems. 

Edited April 10, 2022 by Akira

[fatchers]

Ashton thought he could mirror the Brentford moneyball project , much praised by some on here. Unfortunately he believed his own bull crap. 

[And Its Smith]

17 minutes ago, fatchers said:

Ashton thought he could mirror the Brentford moneyball project , much praised by some on here. Unfortunately he believed his own bull crap. 

Was Ashton heavily stats based like moneyball is?  I’ve either forgotten that or completely missed it. Do you have any articles or info on it? I really don’t remember it being a moneyball type policy 

[Simon79]

35 minutes ago, Lrrr said:

Head coaches/managers say a lot and not always the truth, I believe Szmodics was a Ashton signing because he saw the potential of profit in Szmodics, Johnson’s quote at the time was along the lines that he had to be convinced but the stats presented made the case of someone they had to sign 

Exactly this. It would be nice to clear up this, LJ left us in debt debate. Because from the best of my knowledge, the instructions for buying young ( ‘ one for the future ‘ ), came from above, the amount of signings would of at the very least been given the green light from people above, who would of been in control of finances etc. I seem to remember to buying so many young ones, because the plan was that when someone was sold, we would have a ready made player in the U23’s to step up, again, the plan was set from above.  Is it a coincidence that the amount of signings Ipswich have made coincide with Ashton arriving? & listening to some on here, using certain agents. If LJ was to blame for anything, it would of been for his belief that he could of coached these players to become better & add value. I really don’t think that if LJ had a choice between Barry Bannan or Liam Walsh, he would of gone for Walsh! But that decision came from above. COYR 

[Mike Hunt-Hertz]

9 hours ago, billywedlock said:

As ever Wacadonda or VT or his various guises wins troll of the season . Disgraceful poster who has nothing positive to say ever . Has been invited to meet the club and management but runs away . People like this are a parasite on the club and represent the very worst that happens on this forum .

man up . Come clean and let’s meet at the club and talk through your bile. You won’t . You hide behind changing accounts so you can spew your nonsense . 
 

 

What was VT?

[Lrrr]

6 minutes ago, Simon79 said:

Exactly this. It would be nice to clear up this, LJ left us in debt debate. Because from the best of my knowledge, the instructions for buying young ( ‘ one for the future ‘ ), came from above, the amount of signings would of at the very least been given the green light from people above, who would of been in control of finances etc. I seem to remember to buying so many young ones, because the plan was that when someone was sold, we would have a ready made player in the U23’s to step up, again, the plan was set from above.  Is it a coincidence that the amount of signings Ipswich have made coincide with Ashton arriving? & listening to some on here, using certain agents. If LJ was to blame for anything, it would of been for his belief that he could of coached these players to become better & add value. I really don’t think that if LJ had a choice between Barry Bannan or Liam Walsh, he would of gone for Walsh! But that decision came from above. COYR 

The amount of leaps some on the forum go through the make LJ the villain for everything is laughable. I've seen discussions on here that Harry Redknapp wasn't at fault for overspending at the likes of Pompey because those above him authorised the buying of the players, however when it comes to City its LJ's fault he spends a budget he's given if he even did ie Ashton buying players as well 

Edited April 10, 2022 by Lrrr

[robin for life]

49 minutes ago, fatchers said:

Won't be long before we get a suggestion that Gary Johnson as manager and Lee as his assistant would be on the cards. The dream team.  God help us.

More likely the other way round .....

[robin for life]

Will it happen: Unlikely

Could It Happen: Possibly

Would he take the job if offered: Absolutely

Would the fans get behind him: Doubtful

Could he win them around: Maybe

Should he have been sacked: No

Are we better since he left: No

Is his style of football entertaining: Yes

Did we look better under him: Yes

Would I personally have him back: Yes

[Simon79]

1 minute ago, Lrrr said:

The amount of leaps some on the forum go through the make LJ the villain for everything is laughable. I've seen discussions on here that Harry Redknapp wasn't at fault for overspending at the likes of Pompey because those above him authorised the buying of the players, however when it comes to City its LJ's fault he spends a budget he's given 

As with most things on here, it depends on which side of the fence you sit. Which is probably why I find myself sitting on the fence quite a lot. But there is definitely a lot of personal vendettas against him, sometimes because of the jacket he wore, the coaching phrases he used, the dad he has, the fact he smiled/laughed in an interview, his height, the fact he replaced Cotts or because he backs himself to be able to coach. I wonder what percentage of people have actually met him, spent some time with him from all his detractors, to back up their seemingly personal agendas. COYR 

[Mendip City]

1 hour ago, Lrrr said:

Head coaches/managers say a lot and not always the truth, I believe Szmodics was a Ashton signing because he saw the potential of profit in Szmodics, Johnson’s quote at the time was along the lines that he had to be convinced but the stats presented made the case of someone they had to sign 

Well then he’s weak for accepting a player he didn’t want and a liar about having final sign-off…. None of which presents him in a positive light! 

We shouldn’t go back to LJ. 

[Simon79]

2 minutes ago, Mendip City said:

Well then he’s weak for accepting a player he didn’t want and a liar about having final sign-off…. None of which presents him in a positive light! 

We shouldn’t go back to LJ. 

If you’re boss gives you an instruction, you are weak if you follow it? There is a lot that goes on behind the scenes at a football club, that I don’t think a lot of people appreciate or understand. You only have to look at LJ’s last interview to know his real thoughts. COYR 

[Lack of Action Man]

No to LJ from me. Things are already fairly toxic, and he’s a marmite character. If it goes tits up, which I would expect it to, things will only get more toxic at AG.

[Bodiesaffer]

Definitely no…

[robin for life]

Mind you if he replaced NP and sent us up next season, there would be a lot of threads getting bumped on this forum, and it would go into absolute meltdown. 

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, fatchers said:

Ashton thought he could mirror the Brentford moneyball project , much praised by some on here. Unfortunately he believed his own bull crap. 

…but didn’t create the same set up as Brentford. Go figure!!

50 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Was Ashton heavily stats based like moneyball is?  I’ve either forgotten that or completely missed it. Do you have any articles or info on it? I really don’t remember it being a moneyball type policy 

I believe Ashton did moneyball with the word ball removed. Very agent based. You scratch my back I’ll scratch yours type stuff.

26 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said:

What was VT?

VT05763 is Waconda - changed their name. 

[cityloyal473]

It would be the most Bristol city thing ever. And for that reason it would not surprise me. If he came back I would be done with the club. 

[chinapig]

1 hour ago, Simon79 said:

If you’re boss gives you an instruction, you are weak if you follow it? There is a lot that goes on behind the scenes at a football club, that I don’t think a lot of people appreciate or understand. You only have to look at LJ’s last interview to know his real thoughts. COYR 

To reinforce your point, his objection to signing Defoe* appears to have been a significant factor in his sacking by Sunderland.

Do as you're told, get sacked. Disobey an order, get sacked. The life of a football manager.

*he was proved right of course.

[Silvio Dante]

2 hours ago, Mendip City said:

Agree.  Also, LJ had final sign off on all signings. How do I know? He said!!!! They were all his signings. 
If Ashton forced them on him, that shows LJ as weak - another reason to not go near him! 

He didn’t. The one I know for certain is that prior to signing Nagy, we were about to resign Skuse. LJ was “given” Nagy and told he couldn’t have Skuse.

If that happened on that deal, you can bet it happened on others

[Warwickshire Red]

What’s this obsession with LJ? No thanks.

If we’re talking about having previous managers back I’d much prefer Cotts (+Wilbraham + Burt as chief Scout) but little chance of that.

[italian dave]

1 hour ago, Simon79 said:

If you’re boss gives you an instruction, you are weak if you follow it? There is a lot that goes on behind the scenes at a football club, that I don’t think a lot of people appreciate or understand. You only have to look at LJ’s last interview to know his real thoughts. COYR 

 

14 minutes ago, chinapig said:

To reinforce your point, his objection to signing Defoe* appears to have been a significant factor in his sacking by Sunderland.

Do as you're told, get sacked. Disobey an order, get sacked. The life of a football manager.

*he was proved right of course.

Spot on. And the same with departures. Webster and Brownhill. 

[Silvio Dante]

1 hour ago, Tafkarmlf said:

 

Another post that reverts to 'vendetta' and conspiracy theory nonsense because some posts and posters dont share your views

Your solution is to invade privacy because your post wants others to have the exact same view or else it's wrong. 

Amazing how rather than having a discussion posts like this adopt the same blinkered mantra that they accuse others of. 

Believe it or not, there's lots and lots of others here and elsewhere who are currently unhappy with NP. 

I spose you'll want their names and addresses or whatever too?

The entitlement of this place and our fans in general is somewhat baffling at times. 

Especially when others try and control what others think because they dont agree with it. 

It's possible to support the same club and have completely different views without being antagonistic or wanting draconian control methods either. 

I said yesterday that this whole NP situation is now weird, looks like some posts are also trying to join in that. 

For the record. zilch name changes, so kinda renders your  other discussion moot there too. 

 

Can I just point something out…

@Akira stated “Ralph Milne springs to mind” as someone who he thought had used multiple usernames/accounts. He didn’t reference you, under your username, at all.

So, that being the case, and working on the basis you’re not Ralph Milne (clearly not literally, the blokes dead), why the intensely passionate defence/denial?

[italian dave]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

I believe Ashton did moneyball with the word ball removed. Very agent based. You scratch my back I’ll scratch yours type stuff.

 

Puts it brilliantly Dave.

MA was a finance director. What LJ needed was a director of football. 

[Fordy62]

I’d rather have John Leeson - the voice actor who played Bungle from Rainbow and K9 from Dr Who. 

[bcfcredandwhite]

I can’t see LJ coming back to BS3. 

[ScottishRed]

4 minutes ago, bcfcredandwhite said:

I can’t see LJ coming back to BS3. 

I think he would jump at the chance! 

LJ’s ego would not allow otherwise and the ‘ I was right all along’ quotes would not be long in coming.

It would be a disaster, yes, at times, we played better football but not in his last two seasons and remember he / they spent more money than has ever been spent here.

All of that said, I am pretty sure Nige will go in the summer and it would be no surprise if LJ walks through the door. Be interesting to see how that would go with a zero transfer budget - badly, I suspect, with a return to the #cosyclub.

[Lrrr]

1 hour ago, Mendip City said:

Well then he’s weak for accepting a player he didn’t want and a liar about having final sign-off…. None of which presents him in a positive light! 

We shouldn’t go back to LJ. 

Haven't said we should go back to him, but with someone like Ashton above him deny or refuse him too often and you'd be the one out of the job. Also know LJ wasn't allowed to recall players from loan that he wanted around the match day squad and told to leave them out on loan.

[Bristol Oil Services]

21 minutes ago, bcfcredandwhite said:

I can’t see LJ coming back to BS3. 

Look again. Keep looking

[petehinton]

I really, really wouldn’t bet against it personally 

[Gillies Downs Leeds]

22 minutes ago, petehinton said:

I really, really wouldn’t bet against it personally 

Worryingly nor would I. That would sum SL up for me. After the Johnson's have left the past twice, it has taken us time to recover and rebuild. Yes ok they were some of our best times in terms of finishing position but at the end of the day at what cost. 

[bearded_red]

Get him back I say, at least then I can spend my Saturday afternoons doing something else.

[Akira]

2 hours ago, Tafkarmlf said:

 

Another post that reverts to 'vendetta' and conspiracy theory nonsense because some posts and posters dont share your views

Your solution is to invade privacy because your post wants others to have the exact same view or else it's wrong. 

Amazing how rather than having a discussion posts like this adopt the same blinkered mantra that they accuse others of. 

Believe it or not, there's lots and lots of others here and elsewhere who are currently unhappy with NP. 

I spose you'll want their names and addresses or whatever too?

The entitlement of this place and our fans in general is somewhat baffling at times. 

Especially when others try and control what others think because they dont agree with it. 

It's possible to support the same club and have completely different views without being antagonistic or wanting draconian control methods either. 

I said yesterday that this whole NP situation is now weird, looks like some posts are also trying to join in that. 

For the record. zilch name changes, so kinda renders your  other discussion moot there too. 

 

@Silvio Dante exactly, but now I'll call it out. 

 

Invasion of privacy?

No no, just don't see why people push an agenda for X amount of time, then change their name, pushing same agenda, as make it out like 'wow, there's now loads calling for X person's head', trying to drum up whatever narrative they're trying to push. 

And you're a liar regarding name change/new account and have been called out on it previously, so let's not go down that road, or is it pure coincidence your letters stand for 'The artist formerly known as Ralph milnes left foot'? 

If you've got an opinion, great! Stick by your guns (and username) and own it, and when challenged, that's when a debate can be had. But if you get called out on it because you've had a vendetta against our current manager, because of us signing a player, which has triggered past experiences, then that needs to be owned aswell (and for the record, I wasn't happy with the signing either but I didn't want the manager to be ousted because of it). Since that signing, he can do no right, even when we win in some people's eyes.. 

 

Edited April 10, 2022 by Akira

[Mendip City]

2 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

He didn’t. The one I know for certain is that prior to signing Nagy, we were about to resign Skuse. LJ was “given” Nagy and told he couldn’t have Skuse.

If that happened on that deal, you can bet it happened on others

Well why did he say he had final l sign-off? 
he could have said “I work with what I’m given and I’m happy to work that way”. 
Saying what he said was either true or shows him as a weak “yes” man or was just a downright stupid thing to say/a lie. 
Whatever it is, is a good reason never to hire him again. 

[Mendip City]

1 hour ago, Lrrr said:

Haven't said we should go back to him, but with someone like Ashton above him deny or refuse him too often and you'd be the one out of the job. Also know LJ wasn't allowed to recall players from loan that he wanted around the match day squad and told to leave them out on loan.

In fairness, Lee went along with the whole system/process for a long time…. Towards the end he started having a veiled pop at the way things were done… fast forward to NP… more veiled pops…

Do the Lansdowns strike fear into people to an extent that veiled comments/suggests are the best they can do?? I know it’s not popular on here but I don’t really blame Ashton, not a very likeable guy but for me he was only doing the job he was asked to by the owners… he was never sacked, they must have rated him. For me MA = SL. 

[2015]

3 hours ago, robin for life said:

Is his style of football entertaining: Yes

You must be easily pleased

[Simon79]

10 minutes ago, Mendip City said:

Well why did he say he had final l sign-off? 
he could have said “I work with what I’m given and I’m happy to work that way”. 
Saying what he said was either true or shows him as a weak “yes” man or was just a downright stupid thing to say/a lie. 
Whatever it is, is a good reason never to hire him again. 

Pearson also said something along the lines, that Ashton was good to work with and had done a good job. Fast forward a season and he might say something different now. They say what they have to say at that point. LJ has also said he could write a book on what went on behind the scenes, there’s a reason he didn’t say it at the time, he liked his job! COYR 

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20 minutes ago, Simon79 said:

Pearson also said something along the lines, that Ashton was good to work with and had done a good job. Fast forward a season and he might say something different now. They say what they have to say at that point. LJ has also said he could write a book on what went on behind the scenes, there’s a reason he didn’t say it at the time, he liked his job! COYR 

No wonder Warnock was never considered… can you imagine the home truths! 
 

I think, as a business, we’re now worryingly a combination of a family business and invited members-only club.