Guest Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 When was the last time we heard from the top 2 at this club? seriously cannot recall too much at all recently. Just a rallying call or an update on the progress of this their club will do? Maybe both are already on the beach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Even if we hear something, it’ll just be a load of waffle. At best they’ll identify and show they’re aware of the situation. But what will be done about it? Probably not a lot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 No point it wouldn’t be anything but waffle about how we have the new training ground and how we want to develop young players and get to the prem . It’s boring hearing them talk about it whilst other clubs get on and do it . Anyway rant over I’m sure they’ll come out of hibernation at the end of the season . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Why should we hear from them regularly? They employ others for the day to day of the club, how often do you hear from other clubs owners? 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Why would they come out and say anything before the end of the season? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 Dont worry, theyll be around by the end of April to drum something up, when season card sales arent hitting figures theyd hoped for! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 28 minutes ago, Lrrr said: Why should we hear from them regularly? They employ others for the day to day of the club, how often do you hear from other clubs owners? “Your” owner / chairman is pretty vocal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 46 minutes ago, gl2 said: When was the last time we heard from the top 2 at this club? seriously cannot recall too much at all recently. Just a rallying call or an update on the progress of this their club will do? Maybe both are already on the beach Give em a chance. Sunday is the day of rest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 I much prefer it when we don’t hear from them to be honest. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 10, 2022 Share Posted April 10, 2022 So many fans misunderstand their roles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, And Its Smith said: So many fans misunderstand their roles Thank god you are here Dave to constantly correct us at every opportunity. Edited April 11, 2022 by The Constant Rabbit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Constant Rabbit Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 "It's my money and my club" 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extonsred Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Maybe more hpful to hear what RG is doing!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Lrrr said: Why should we hear from them regularly? They employ others for the day to day of the club, how often do you hear from other clubs owners? JL was quick enough to come out and say "We should be doing better"! What the hell has he done to improve anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Lrrr said: Why should we hear from them regularly? They employ others for the day to day of the club, how often do you hear from other clubs owners? 7 hours ago, Rossi the Robin said: Why would they come out and say anything before the end of the season? They could end all speculation re NP for a start; "We are aware of speculation from some fans but NP is our manager till the end of his contract" " there is no money available until we sell some of our players, then NP will only get a fraction of any money" "the rebuilding of our squad has begun and will continue based on our 5 pillars plan" "we expect to advance towards the top half of this div next season" " our fantastic training facilities is and will yield results (just not in midfield or defence yet)" Will take about 5mins of their empire building time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon bristol Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 21 minutes ago, Red said: JL was quick enough to come out and say "We should be doing better"! What the hell has he done to improve anything? I was thinking that, then realised he was in bermuda for last years transfer window, which is probably the best place tor him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 23 minutes ago, gl2 said: They could end all speculation re NP for a start; "We are aware of speculation from some fans but NP is our manager till the end of his contract" " there is no money available until we sell some of our players, then NP will only get a fraction of any money" "the rebuilding of our squad has begun and will continue based on our 5 pillars plan" "we expect to advance towards the top half of this div next season" " our fantastic training facilities is and will yield results (just not in midfield or defence yet)" Will take about 5mins of their empire building time. Even that I’d expect to come from Gould 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 8 hours ago, gl2 said: When was the last time we heard from the top 2 at this club? seriously cannot recall too much at all recently. Just a rallying call or an update on the progress of this their club will do? Maybe both are already on the beach That is the Steve Lansdown way now appoint a manager and CEO and turn his back on whatever is happening. And as for Jon Lansdown running the club what a joke he is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Everyone wanted him to shut up when he was more vocal, everyone wanted the former CEO to shut up, what are they supposed to do. Lansdown was told to appoint a "football" man and leave it to him, but now come out and say Pearson is staying, until he's going. If they make a statement that Pearson is staying, then we lose the next few games and Nige makes more comments, then what. They sack him and everyone says but, but, but you said !!! There is no point in saying anything at the moment, we should be safe and we have time to assess , which I'm sure they are doing. The time to make statements is when they have something to say. 2 hours ago, Red said: JL was quick enough to come out and say "We should be doing better"! What the hell has he done to improve anything? What exactly could he do ? Serious question. We all wanted a strong experienced manager, we got one. If he criticises the team, it just undermines the manager. If he says anything about the manager staying or leaving it just sets himself up to look stupid when the opposite happens. He can't sign anyone, he can't make players better so ? As for saying we should be doing better, name someone that hasn't said that. It's incredibly frustrating ATM, it makes it worse they have to try a sell tickets, but what are they supposed to do? All I can see happening is a coast to the end of the season, they make a decision and then they tell us what that is. 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Red Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Redrascal2 said: That is the Steve Lansdown way now appoint a manager and CEO and turn his back on whatever is happening. And as for Jon Lansdown running the club what a joke he is. Their silence speaks volumes no real interest anymore, years ago you couldn't keep Steve away from the media side of things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Redrascal2 said: That is the Steve Lansdown way now appoint a manager and CEO and turn his back on whatever is happening. And as for Jon Lansdown running the club what a joke he is. JL has said he doesn't want to run the club once his dad retires/sells he'd much rather continue with his property business in Bermuda (who can blame him?). I think SL's just fed up, he's tried everything and the club's still losing money, he was hoping to have handed over to Jon by now and given he's 70 this year is probably looking to sell (as was hinted in another thread recently). Although the club's income has increased with the new stadium wages have gone up even more, if we're restricted to spending 70% of our income on transfers/wages as hinted in the proposed new FFP rules we'll struggle to stay in the Championship as the income currently doesn't even pay the wages. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 2 hours ago, gl2 said: They could end all speculation re NP for a start; "We are aware of speculation from some fans but NP is our manager till the end of his contract" " there is no money available until we sell some of our players, then NP will only get a fraction of any money" "the rebuilding of our squad has begun and will continue based on our 5 pillars plan" "we expect to advance towards the top half of this div next season" " our fantastic training facilities is and will yield results (just not in midfield or defence yet)" Will take about 5mins of their empire building time. Will be said in 5 games time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Rather not hear from them as they have not got a clue how to run a successful football club. Embarrassing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 They way I look at it I really don't want JL in charge but he sort of is but with Pops pulling the strings. However, given that he is sort of in charge then I'm glad we aren't hearing anything from him. So inept, at everything! When we had a relatively successful period (cup run) SL was bloody everywhere and on every radio, couldn't shut him up. I'm not saying I want to hear anything from either of them but it really does boil my p!ss when they only appear when things are good. Which is why we haven't seen or heard from them for such a long time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 They dont need to say anything 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 The amount of people I’ve seen defending them over the last couple of days saying stuff like we wouldn’t have a club without them is comical. The debt we’ve had over the years is purely down to them whilst every club of a similar size has overtaken us. Appreciate the shiny new stand but god it really is time for lansdown to either put his ego to the side or let someone with some brain cells have a go 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 All I want to hear from them is something along the lines of 'we're employing a Director of Football and a Head of Recruitment to be chosen by Nigel and Richard. We currently have some limitations financially due to FFP but we want to put in place a structure that will allow us to develop over the next few seasons. If and when Nigel leaves, we want the structure and people in place that will allow the club to develop and be an attraction to the next manager.' 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Soldier Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Bard said: All I want to hear from them is something along the lines of 'we're employing a Director of Football and a Head of Recruitment to be chosen by Nigel and Richard. We currently have some limitations financially due to FFP but we want to put in place a structure that will allow us to develop over the next few seasons. If and when Nigel leaves, we want the structure and people in place that will allow the club to develop and be an attraction to the next manager.' Pretty obvious really to most on here, but SL and JL just can’t see it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, ashton_fan said: JL has said he doesn't want to run the club once his dad retires/sells he'd much rather continue with his property business in Bermuda (who can blame him?). I think SL's just fed up, he's tried everything and the club's still losing money, he was hoping to have handed over to Jon by now and given he's 70 this year is probably looking to sell (as was hinted in another thread recently). Although the club's income has increased with the new stadium wages have gone up even more, if we're restricted to spending 70% of our income on transfers/wages as hinted in the proposed new FFP rules we'll struggle to stay in the Championship as the income currently doesn't even pay the wages. Agree. Think there might be several other clubs struggling with the 70% too. It’s not just wages, but transfers too (I assume they mean amortisation). In effect it will be “sell to buy”. I don’t think that will fuel the reversal of the transfer market depression either, which will pour cold water on any clubs proposals to claim transfer fee losses on covid either. Academy will be key. Edited April 11, 2022 by Davefevs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, gl2 said: They could end all speculation re NP for a start; "We are aware of speculation from some fans but NP is our manager till the end of his contract" " there is no money available until we sell some of our players, then NP will only get a fraction of any money" "the rebuilding of our squad has begun and will continue based on our 5 pillars plan" "we expect to advance towards the top half of this div next season" " our fantastic training facilities is and will yield results (just not in midfield or defence yet)" Will take about 5mins of their empire building time. You realise that would only increase the speculation? Dreaded vote of confidence and all that! Edited April 11, 2022 by italian dave 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 This is what i don’t get from fans, they want to hear something from the owners which is likely to be a load of tosh but when the manager speaks honestly about the players and the situation at the club he’s vilified. Serious question - what would you like to hear from Jon Lansdown? 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rob k said: This is what i don’t get from fans, they want to hear something from the owners which is likely to be a load of tosh but when the manager speaks honestly about the players and the situation at the club he’s vilified. Serious question - what would you like to hear from Jon Lansdown? I guess if he did say something at least some fans can vilify him too… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, Rob k said: Serious question - what would you like to hear from Jon Lansdown? It’s a good point. My feeling is that it’s so, so quiet on the comms side whoever it’s to come from. Huboo, one day of hullabaloo! Season Tickets, nothing inventive, all comms died down after a day or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 1 hour ago, The Bard said: All I want to hear from them is something along the lines of 'we're employing a Director of Football and a Head of Recruitment to be chosen by Nigel and Richard. We currently have some limitations financially due to FFP but we want to put in place a structure that will allow us to develop over the next few seasons. If and when Nigel leaves, we want the structure and people in place that will allow the club to develop and be an attraction to the next manager.' I’m not sure it’s a DoF we want, I’d see NP more in that role, and it’s a coach we need. But that’s splitting hairs - it’s definitely something we never seem to have got right as a club, even pre Lansdowns. We had the John Ward/Benny fiasco - Ward needed a coach like Benny but the way we handled it meant he walked and we then left Benny - who was a decent coach - in an untenable position as Manager. Throughout the Millen, McInnes, O’Driscoll era it was crying out for a DoF and never seemed to register. SC was too stubborn to admit he couldn’t do it all and that worked at L1 level but not above. LJ could have benefitted from a good DoF (as opposed to the Finance Director he got). We’ve just never got it really right, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It’s a good point. My feeling is that it’s so, so quiet on the comms side whoever it’s to come from. Huboo, one day of hullabaloo! Season Tickets, nothing inventive, all comms died down after a day or two. Perhaps there's more going on behind the scenes then we think… I'm thinking more towards investment? I don't think there will be any statement regarding management until the end of season anyway… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wealwayseatcheese Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 Not sure what people want to hear from them?? They can’t influence the shart being dished up on the pitch , only NP and the players can do that. Our hands are tied financially next season and although it’s bad decisions by SL and JL that have contributed massively to this situation they are not going to come out and take the blame. We have gone backwards since LJ was sacked, no doubt at all , but we are a Championship club again next season and who knows what next season will bring. I personally don’t like the Bristol Sport branding , I feel we lost our identity with that and I have also said many times that I think that it may be time for a change of owners. SL and his investment has held this club together but for too long now I feel there has been no ambition to make the final push on the pitch. NP was appointed 2 years too late in my eyes, and we are paying for that big time now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 I dunno what you are expecting - you could literally predict almost down to the letter what SL would say and John just mumbles. Id rather watch Eastenders tbh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 11 hours ago, And Its Smith said: So many fans misunderstand their roles I don't think it's just a case of misunderstanding the roles, it's that people don't like the set up. If your plane hits turbulence, you don't want to hear that it's being piloted by cabin crew, and the Pilot is on the ground 150 miles away and the Co-Pilot is on the other side of the world on the end of a phone. There's nothing quite like being part of it to realise how good or bad it is. How long have second hand accounts been glossing over things and telling the Lansdown family what they want to hear? I believe their decisions/perspective is altered because they aren't present enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 5 hours ago, Simon bristol said: I was thinking that, then realised he was in bermuda for last years transfer window, which is probably the best place tor him. Unfortunately he wasn't in the triangle bit. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 2 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said: Perhaps there's more going on behind the scenes then we think… I'm thinking more towards investment? I don't think there will be any statement regarding management until the end of season anyway… I think you might be right. No evidence, but I just wonder whether the completion of the basketball arena is something SL will see as a milestone that marks time for him to move on. His legacy in terms of bricks and mortar and in terms of Bristol Sport as a whole will be complete. He’ll be into his 70s by then, he knows Jon has no long term interest in taking over, and therefore he’ll be looking for a buyer - investment but also ownership? As I say, no evidence, just a feeling. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 They would be damned if they spoke and damned if they didn’t. We as fans need to accept that we are where we are and likely to go down next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 16 minutes ago, italian dave said: I think you might be right. No evidence, but I just wonder whether the completion of the basketball arena is something SL will see as a milestone that marks time for him to move on. His legacy in terms of bricks and mortar and in terms of Bristol Sport as a whole will be complete. He’ll be into his 70s by then, he knows Jon has no long term interest in taking over, and therefore he’ll be looking for a buyer - investment but also ownership? As I say, no evidence, just a feeling. Yes…it feels as like that to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 11 hours ago, The Constant Rabbit said: "It's my money and my club" and the losses, who`s are they ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 14 hours ago, And Its Smith said: So many fans misunderstand their roles So many of your posts are: "I understand football. Other people do not." Don't know if you have noticed this? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 38 minutes ago, Gert Mare said: They would be damned if they spoke and damned if they didn’t. They could try the medium of dance and movement, then, instead? Or sculpture? To say what needs to be said without saying it, or not saying it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said: They could try the medium of dance and movement, then, instead? Or sculpture? To say what needs to be said without saying it, or not saying it. Good shout. They could record the video at the High Performance Centre 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Gert Mare said: They would be damned if they spoke and damned if they didn’t. We as fans need to accept that we are where we are and likely to go down next season. Fair point. But for me, we've only had the voice of NP bleating on about the changes that need to be made for the club to progress. I think if SL or JL were keen, and supportive of the points that NP is making; then sitting in on one of his Thursday pre match press conferences, and saying as much would go a long way to clearing up what is currently a confusing picture. At present it's almost akin to a boxer calling out an future opponent; and in truth it's not pleasant, and is getting very repetitive. Either you back NP or you don't. Silence gets us nowhere as a club. JL comes out and speaks like a fan a few months ago. He's the chairman, what does he think now? What did he expect to happen after those words? What do him, and his father want now? Cue we go into potentially the most important transfer window in the last 10 years with no clear direction, identity of what we are trying to achieve; or even in the knowledge who will be manager come July. Clueless in my eyes at the present. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) With regard to JL speaking out, last time he did that he got publicly shot down. NP could have said at that time, "its because of you and your old man that this club is where it is and I'm working with your legacy". "Six weeks to appoint DH, Ashton, LJs spending, poor recruitment, then you bugger off to Bermuda while your dad is in exile in the Channel Islands." I don't think we'll be hearing from either of them until there is some good news, both haven't exactly played a blinder.. I hope Gould speaks out to say "NP is going nowhere - NP and me will sort their mess out for them." Edited April 11, 2022 by bcfc01 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Gert Mare said: They would be damned if they spoke and damned if they didn’t. We as fans need to accept that we are where we are and likely to go down next season. Well, I for one am not willing to accept it! They should be damned as they are ultimately responsible for our current predicament. They have presided over a complete s***show and need to be held accountable. They can keep on sacking managers until the cows come home but it’s not going to make a shred of difference. Lansdowns out and Gould out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: With regard to JL speaking out, last time he did that he got publicly shot down. NP could have said at that time, "its because of you and your old man that this club is where it is and I'm working with your legacy". "Six weeks to appoint DH, Ashton, LJs spending, poor recruitment, then you bugger off to Bermuda while your dad is in exile in the Channel Islands." I don't think we'll be hearing from either of them until there is some good news, both haven't exactly played a blinder.. I hope Gould speaks out to say "NP is going nowhere - NP and me will sort their mess out for them." Yep, no problem with the message coming from Gould, if the chairman; and owner are just really really busy. Doesn't matter who delivers it, there just needs to be one in my eyes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WessexPest Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) Every time I hear from Gould something dies inside me a little. He’s more wooden than FGR’s proposed eco-friendly stadium and nothing he says ever inspires confidence. Edited April 11, 2022 by WessexPest 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Wealwayseatcheese said: I personally don’t like the Bristol Sport branding That has zero impact on City being shite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 5 hours ago, italian dave said: I’m not sure it’s a DoF we want, I’d see NP more in that role, and it’s a coach we need. But that’s splitting hairs - it’s definitely something we never seem to have got right as a club, even pre Lansdowns. We had the John Ward/Benny fiasco - Ward needed a coach like Benny but the way we handled it meant he walked and we then left Benny - who was a decent coach - in an untenable position as Manager. Throughout the Millen, McInnes, O’Driscoll era it was crying out for a DoF and never seemed to register. SC was too stubborn to admit he couldn’t do it all and that worked at L1 level but not above. LJ could have benefitted from a good DoF (as opposed to the Finance Director he got). We’ve just never got it really right, Thought Ward/Benny happened on Scott Davidson's watch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Bristol Oil Services said: So many of your posts are: "I understand football. Other people do not." Don't know if you have noticed this? Think of me as a public service 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Gert Mare said: They would be damned if they spoke and damned if they didn’t. We as fans need to accept that we are where we are and likely to go down next season. That’s the problem with some of our fan base . Happy to accept going down and being a club with no ambition. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 26 minutes ago, WessexPest said: Every time I hear from Gould something dies inside me a little. He’s more wooden than FGR’s proposed eco-friendly stadium and nothing he says ever inspires confidence. He has a good reputation & did a decent job at Somerset & Surrey. He didn’t cover himself with glory with the interview when Nige was unwell but I’m still prepared to see what he can do in pretty challenging circumstances. When I remember the smarmy bastard (Train Guy) who held the role before him I’m actually glad he’s here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, Wiltshire robin said: That’s the problem with some of our fan base . Happy to accept going down and being a club with no ambition. I’m not happy with us going down, but I’m happy that we are staying up this season. Next season I think it will be a massive task for us to survive the drop as we are likely to receive a points deduction and there won’t be any money to spend in the summer. Some fans think we should be higher than we are and that a manager should be able to work miracles with a squad that isn’t good enough. That’s unrealistic. We’re just not very good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen hump Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 2 hours ago, italian dave said: I think you might be right. No evidence, but I just wonder whether the completion of the basketball arena is something SL will see as a milestone that marks time for him to move on. His legacy in terms of bricks and mortar and in terms of Bristol Sport as a whole will be complete. He’ll be into his 70s by then, he knows Jon has no long term interest in taking over, and therefore he’ll be looking for a buyer - investment but also ownership? As I say, no evidence, just a feeling. It’s a open secret isn’t it that we’ve been looking to sell or get a investor on board for a long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Gert Mare said: I’m not happy with us going down, but I’m happy that we are staying up this season. Next season I think it will be a massive task for us to survive the drop as we are likely to receive a points deduction and there won’t be any money to spend in the summer. Some fans think we should be higher than we are and that a manager should be able to work miracles with a squad that isn’t good enough. That’s unrealistic. We’re just not very good. Its not a given that we will get a points deduction. I tend to think that NP is correct in his assertion that the club is passive and I think that applies from SL down and includes an element of the fan base. I'm pretty sure that NP will have ben happy to hear those boos and chants of embarrassing, at least it shows something other than just accepting how things are or accepting that we'll go down next season - the epitome of passive. And he can use it to ram home to the players that it was a nothing performance and the fans won't accept it. Surprised it took that long for the supporters to start getting on the players backs. We have some good players and some promising players, but we also have some which are a bit meh and play like it. Things don't stand still so this season shouldn't be a barometer of next season. Move some on (easier said than done if under contract), keep the good guys (easier said than done if they don't want to be here), draft in some with a bit of backbone in them (easier said than done). Its difficult, but not impossible. I don't expect us to be promotion material next season, but not relegation fodder either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said: Thought Ward/Benny happened on Scott Davidson's watch? Yes, I think it was (that’s why I said ‘even pre-Lansdowns’!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 27 minutes ago, Glen hump said: It’s a open secret isn’t it that we’ve been looking to sell or get a investor on board for a long time. There was certainly talk of it a year or so back. But that’s when we were supposedly linked with potential US investors - which I thought turned out to be Ashton talking to the Ipswich lot even though he was still working for us, the little weasel. But I may have got that wrong! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted April 11, 2022 Admin Share Posted April 11, 2022 52 minutes ago, italian dave said: There was certainly talk of it a year or so back. But that’s when we were supposedly linked with potential US investors - which I thought turned out to be Ashton talking to the Ipswich lot even though he was still working for us, the little weasel. But I may have got that wrong! There have been others 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 3 hours ago, NcnsBcfc said: But for me, we've only had the voice of NP bleating on about the changes that need to be made for the club to progress. I think if SL or JL were keen, and supportive of the points that NP is making; then sitting in on one of his Thursday pre match press conferences, and saying as much would go a long way to clearing up what is currently a confusing picture. The Lansdown's will never sit in a Thursday press conference and rightly so as they are for the manager (or designated coaching staff member for that game) to talk about the upcoming game and any other questions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 19 hours ago, And Its Smith said: So many fans misunderstand their roles And that of First Team Manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waconda Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 4 hours ago, bcfc01 said: With regard to JL speaking out, last time he did that he got publicly shot down. NP could have said at that time, "its because of you and your old man that this club is where it is and I'm working with your legacy". "Six weeks to appoint DH, Ashton, LJs spending, poor recruitment, then you bugger off to Bermuda while your dad is in exile in the Channel Islands." I don't think we'll be hearing from either of them until there is some good news, both haven't exactly played a blinder.. I hope Gould speaks out to say "NP is going nowhere - NP and me will sort their mess out for them." The manager needs to concentrate on coaching the team better, that is what he is employed to do not sniping at the owners. He has a mid table Championship squad at his disposal, right now and is underperforming in his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 20 hours ago, And Its Smith said: So many fans misunderstand their roles Based on the last four years I am assuming their roles are to manage the club in a way that ensures we get to watch the lowest value for money football in the entire football league……….regardless of that many fans who have less understanding than you will decide to keep their hands in their pockets so whatever the misunderstanding is they aren’t carrying out their roles very successfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Waconda said: The manager needs to concentrate on coaching the team better, that is what he is employed to do not sniping at the owners. He has a mid table Championship squad at his disposal, right now and is underperforming in his job. When players make 90 minutes of poor decisions, coming odd second best in tackle after tackle, and week in week out fail to hit even a measly 60% pass completion what you have is poor players rather than an amazing squad being mismanaged. Could our defensive structure be better, of course, but this notion that we have a decent squad is bonkers. I haven’t heard one single pundit describe us as under performing, not one. Edited April 11, 2022 by Numero Uno 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 14 hours ago, bcfc01 said: I tend to think that NP is correct in his assertion that the club is passive and I think that applies from SL down and includes an element of the fan base. Welcome to Bristol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 On 11/04/2022 at 08:45, ashton_fan said: JL has said he doesn't want to run the club once his dad retires/sells he'd much rather continue with his property business in Bermuda (who can blame him?). I think SL's just fed up, he's tried everything and the club's still losing money, he was hoping to have handed over to Jon by now and given he's 70 this year is probably looking to sell (as was hinted in another thread recently). Although the club's income has increased with the new stadium wages have gone up even more, if we're restricted to spending 70% of our income on transfers/wages as hinted in the proposed new FFP rules we'll struggle to stay in the Championship as the income currently doesn't even pay the wages. I don't think SL has tried everything. He has continued to believe that he knows best and we have suffered season after season for it. Instead of accepting other people involved in football might know better or be able to offer advice. It has been the SL way only. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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