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Just now, Ska Junkie said:

I questioned him last Saturday so tip my hat to him this weekend, a cracking win and safety guaranteed. :clap:

Agreed, last Saturday was crap, it can't be argued. The bloke has been given a three year plan and the objective for Year 1 is achieved. Year 2 must show improvement, that's for sure, and we can all judge that when we get to it. My only concern is that the complete and utter clown we have running the shit show will panic when the inevitable dip in season ticket sales occurs....................if that happens he merely proves to me how unfit for purpose he is.

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2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Fantastic result….but still in the bottom third. ???
 

 

(Consistent no agenda)

We're in the Championship again next season Dave, I think that's all we could ask for at the mo.

Celebrate? No, it's not worthy of a celebration but certainly relief the job's done. 

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17 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Gotta be a great Manager to keep that squad in the division..................

I think there are a fair few managers who would have got relegated with this squad to be fair.

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It's an interesting one. Credit to NP certainly and as for 3 year plan well I'd lean more towards 4 year plan given the FFP uncertainty.

I don't think our squad necessarily a relegation one when all consistently fit but although improved on last season, how many times just one one example have we been able to field from the off a James-Williams-Massengo trio.

Overall done fine. Cut wage bill and other player costs, been blooding youth and yes the regular medium term injuries still persist. More of a consistency of level at home from Barnsley onwards and when the level is alright results often follow.

Loads still to be done of course but very much NP in.

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21 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

I questioned him last Saturday so tip my hat to him this weekend, a cracking win and safety guaranteed. :clap:

Last Saturday was a poor game but nearly every game was ? during the last two years of Johnson’s time in charge. 
Perhaps next season will be much better?

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9 minutes ago, YGBjammy said:

I think there are a fair few managers who would have got relegated with this squad to be fair.

Very good point, I’ve felt apathetic about Nige recently but credit where it’s due, job done for this season, but really need to see us push on next.

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Definitely worth sticking with him in my opinion. This summer could be a tricky one, but it’s a test of his experience, contacts and skill in the transfer market.

Personally I won’t judge too harshly until Christmas. Don’t like to speak for the consensus but I get the impression most people were satisfied with survival and youngsters being blooded this season. He’s achieved that with a few weeks to spare.

There’ll be a couple on here secretly gutted we won today which is sad. 

 

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6 minutes ago, sticks 1969 said:

All we need now is the gas the fxxk it up 

They’re a league below where they should be anyway so it’s really doesn’t matter too much if they do go up. 

Im more interested in what happens if Joey gets convicted. 

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4 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Nige and JD things you love to see

Dasilva is a real success story this season. Seemingly cast out at one point, fought his way back in when the opportunity arose, and has proven himself. Topped off with a flukes but enjoyable goal. Hope he gets the praise he deserves!

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17 minutes ago, YGBjammy said:

I think there are a fair few managers who would have got relegated with this squad to be fair.

I agree. I also think it was a pretty decent performance today. I do think though, there are a few managers who would have achieved a higher finish. I'd definitely keep him, but I'm not getting carried away just yet. 

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1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said:

Dasilva is a real success story this season. Seemingly cast out at one point, fought his way back in when the opportunity arose, and has proven himself. Topped off with a flukes but enjoyable goal. Hope he gets the praise he deserves!

Absolutely, I would say he has been our most consistent player since he returned. Fair play to him but also Nige 

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3 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Dasilva is a real success story this season. Seemingly cast out at one point, fought his way back in when the opportunity arose, and has proven himself. Topped off with a flukes but enjoyable goal. Hope he gets the praise he deserves!

Good post.

Pearson has mentioned players needing to show character & JD has certainly done that.

Gave it a decent go out of position at RB & very good since returning to his best position.

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11 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Waiting for the raft of Podcasts this weekend or as we’ve won & are safe, reckon there won’t be any? ?

Safe with 4 games to go, having never really been in a relegation. Battle all season.

I remember the start of 17/18, asking for a relegation safe season and no long winless runs.

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Safe with 4 games to go, having never really been in a relegation. Battle all season.

I remember the start of 17/18, asking for a relegation safe season and no long winless runs.

Don't think we've actually been in the bottom 3 have we? Closest maybe 6 points away at some point? Might check later.

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2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Safe with 4 games to go, having never really been in a relegation. Battle all season.

I remember the start of 17/18, asking for a relegation safe season and no long winless runs.

Thank goodness for Derby and Reading’s points deduction 

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2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Don't think we've actually been in the bottom 3 have we? Closest maybe 6 points away at some point? Might check later.

Off the top of my head I seem to recall Cardiff in Jan feet like a 6 pointer, but even then we were clear of the relegation spots.

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This was the table after that game:

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So we’d have been 5 points ahead of Peterborough, after the the 6-2 to Fulham.

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2 minutes ago, Mr Sno said:

Really don't understand this - we would only be 3 points from the drop if they hadn't had points deducted.

Ok, safe against Derby then. Either way the deductions have been overplayed re our safety. 3 points at this stage of the season is huge.

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Job done. That was my “hope” at the start of the season, sadly. 
 

Would like to see better next season despite the budget restrictions. 
 

Some positives:

The youngsters (Scott, Benarous, Pring, Semenyo). More games for Joe Williams. Jay Dasilva return to form. Emergence of Robbie Cundy. Atkinson - very good first season all things considered. Weimanns goals. 

Hopefully an opportunity to offload a couple more high earners in the summer and bring in some hungrier players. 

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3 minutes ago, Mr Sno said:

3 points with 4 games left isn't huge, no matter which way you look at it.

It means that the team behind you needs to get 0.66 points per game more than you do. So if you get 1 per game, ie 1 draw 1 win, and 2 losses, they need to get 1.66 per game. That means bettering us by 1 whole win.

Plus we'd have Hull and Brum below us, so if they slipped up they'd be more likely to take that final spot.

It's huge.

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49 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Dasilva is a real success story this season. Seemingly cast out at one point, fought his way back in when the opportunity arose, and has proven himself. Topped off with a flukes but enjoyable goal. Hope he gets the praise he deserves!

 

46 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

Absolutely, I would say he has been our most consistent player since he returned. Fair play to him but also Nige 

So was Nige correct in casting him out???

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11 minutes ago, Galley is our king said:

And our good friend Andy +a load of numbers 

I’m one of them, delighted with the result today although it makes a mockery of what so many posters are saying about this squad not being good enough, this squad is good enough and it’s NP’s job to get the best out of them, the result today will make my long working weekend a lot sweeter and easier, would love NP to prove me wrong so onwards and upwards and let’s hope for four decent performances to give us hope for next season

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12 minutes ago, harrys said:

I’m one of them, delighted with the result today although it makes a mockery of what so many posters are saying about this squad not being good enough, this squad is good enough and it’s NP’s job to get the best out of them, the result today will make my long working weekend a lot sweeter and easier, would love NP to prove me wrong so onwards and upwards and let’s hope for four decent performances to give us hope for next season

But that depends on whether you expect us to play as disciplined as this each game, take into account the opposition, etc…especially when you compare to the “average performance level” this season.  Of course players are capable of better, but the fact is, they rarely have…at least not in enough numbers each week.  Too often dragged down by two, three, four “4 or 5s out of 10”.  And that’s not been the youngsters either.  If we played like today all season (on average) I’d think differently.  We haven’t though.  It is however something to build from.

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14 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

But that depends on whether you expect us to play as disciplined as this each game, take into account the opposition, etc…especially when you compare to the “average performance level” this season.  Of course players are capable of better, but the fact is, they rarely have…at least not in enough numbers each week.  Too often dragged down by two, three, four “4 or 5s out of 10”.  And that’s not been the youngsters either.  If we played like today all season (on average) I’d think differently.  We haven’t though.  It is however something to build from.

In a nutshell you do agree the players are good enough.

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1 hour ago, Mr Sno said:

Really don't understand this - we would only be 3 points from the drop if they hadn't had points deducted.

And if we hadn’t conceded so many goals in stoppage time, we’d be in the play-offs. Talking about ifs and buts is pointless IMO. We are where we are. 

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1 hour ago, Mr Sno said:

Really don't understand this - we would only be 3 points from the drop if they hadn't had points deducted.

Then again, if Derby and Reading hadn't got the players they managed to keep though financial rule breaking where would they be? Much worse off I reckon.

Nigel Pearson has managed to get through the season with no threat of the drop whilst slashing costs. Unfortunately for us it looks like he'll have repeat the trick next year.

Well done to him - think we're in very good hands and I hope he's here for the opportunity to build a competitive  team.

 

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6 minutes ago, Calculus said:

Then again, if Derby and Reading hadn't got the players they managed to keep though financial rule breaking where would they be? Much worse off I reckon.

Nigel Pearson has managed to get through the season with no threat of the drop whilst slashing costs. Unfortunately for us it looks like he'll have repeat the trick next year.

Well done to him - think we're in very good hands and I hope he's here for the opportunity to build a competitive  team.

 

Today showed what you can achieve without paying anyone 20K a week. That's certainly something worth building on.  

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2 hours ago, Ska Junkie said:

We're in the Championship again next season Dave, I think that's all we could ask for at the mo.

Celebrate? No, it's not worthy of a celebration but certainly relief the job's done. 

Tongue in cheek jibe at another poster who is very quiet this evening..keep up

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55 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

But that depends on whether you expect us to play as disciplined as this each game, take into account the opposition, etc…especially when you compare to the “average performance level” this season.  Of course players are capable of better, but the fact is, they rarely have…at least not in enough numbers each week.  Too often dragged down by two, three, four “4 or 5s out of 10”.  And that’s not been the youngsters either.  If we played like today all season (on average) I’d think differently.  We haven’t though.  It is however something to build from.

Isn't it Pearson's job to get them to perform better every week? 

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33 minutes ago, tin said:

And if we hadn’t conceded so many goals in stoppage time, we’d be in the play-offs. Talking about ifs and buts is pointless IMO. We are where we are. 

As the saying goes if ifs and ands were pots and pans there'd be no need for tinkers. 

Don't give a stuff about how close it would still be without Derby/Reading points deductions. They cheated, got found out and paid the penalty so no sympathy here. 

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1 hour ago, Galley is our king said:

And our good friend Andy +a load of numbers 

Oh I like Andy. He’s consistent. I like that about him. 

The day he’s positive is the day he’s been murdered and someone is pretending to be him. 

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18 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said:

Isn't it Pearson's job to get them to perform better every week? 

Apologies if not, but I think you might be missing my point.  There us only so much Pearson can do.  He can’t turn some players into 8/10s week in week out.

We watch worldie stuff from the lower leagues every week.  Why are they playing at that level?  Because that’s the exception to their norm.  It’s the same as you go up the leagues.  Matty Taylor sublime chipped pass to Smith….he doesn’t do that every week, or in fact more than once.  Most pro players have a lot of ability, it’s the consistency of good level performances that sets them apart.

As individuals, City’s players are very capable in one off performances.  But if you look at their “middling” performances, you kind of see why we are where we are.

Its why OTIB can view Semenyo as both £15m and “Lg1 striker”.  He’s somewhere in between.

Today was a team performance where our defence defended well, whereas so often someone has switched off, made an error, given the ball away, etc, etc.  Our front line didn’t really function for the opening hour, and a 0-0 looked the most likely result.  I don’t think anyone is getting carried away that today was great yet it earned 3 points.

We are probably a tad better than 18th as a squad imho, but not much….and with the odd injury we are easily weakened.  That’s what we’ve had to put up with all season.

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Happy with survival as thought this year would be tough.

Even happier that we actually look like we can score goals which wasn't the case under LJ's last season and under Holden. Also, they both had money to spend and we were still no threat in attack

Sort the defence out and get a little bit more strength in depth and it' certainly could be looking a bit more positive.

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3 hours ago, Mr Sno said:

3 points with 4 games left isn't huge, no matter which way you look at it.

Doesn’t matter, you play to what you need. If the deductions weren’t there everything would have been different.

No guarantee Derby put up such a strong fight, Rooney may have walked etc

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12 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Doesn’t matter, you play to what you need. If the deductions weren’t there everything would have been different.

No guarantee Derby put up such a strong fight, Rooney may have walked etc

You can’t do what ifs tbh. Cardiff wouldn’t have made seven changes today against Hull.

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4 hours ago, YGBjammy said:

I think there are a fair few managers who would have got relegated with this squad to be fair.

It think it’s 40% squad, 60% mentality.

To take the lead as many times as Fulham, but lose it more than anyone else shows a glaring issue.

It’s obvious  to Nige and he needs to ensure he can correct this over the summer.

There are positives to take and attitudes which have been tested. Dasilva, Scott, Weimann and Semenyo have been some of the highlights of the season within the squad.

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