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Saw that Richard Scudamore was with SL yesterday.

That would be a good appointment as Executive Chairman, to help share the burden with Jon. 

Family Lansdown - Scudamore - Gould - Pearson. Not a bad off- the -field set up. Almost Premier League I’d say. 

Just need to tweak the coaching with a bit of top quality/experience and sort the recruitment out. Then, with the infrastructure we have in place, there would be few better positioned Clubs in the Championship.

Merely the players to sort then, aside from FFP.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, RedRock said:

Saw that Richard Scudamore was with SL yesterday.

That would be a good appointment as Executive Chairman, to help share the burden with Jon. 

Family Lansdown - Scudamore - Gould - Pearson. Not a bad off- the -field set up. Almost Premier League I’d say. 

Just need to tweak the coaching with a bit of top quality/experience and sort the recruitment out. Then, with the infrastructure we have in place, there would be few better positioned Clubs in the Championship.

Merely the players to sort then, aside from FFP.

 

 

Share the burden with John. I would love to know what the bloke does.

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1 minute ago, RedRock said:

Saw that Richard Scudamore was with SL yesterday.

That would be a good appointment as Executive Chairman, to help share the burden with Jon. 

Family Lansdown - Scudamore - Gould - Pearson. Not a bad off- the -field set up. Almost Premier League I’d say. 

Just need to tweak the coaching with a bit of top quality/experience and sort the recruitment out. Then, with the infrastructure we have in place, there would be few better positioned Clubs in the Championship.

Merely the players to sort then, aside from FFP.

 

 

What burden? How many hours a week does JL devote to being Chairman of BCFC? I cannot believe it is more than one or two hours!

Replace JL with Scudamore would be more sensible and productive.

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Scudamore helps out a little behind the scenes already. Gould uses him as a sounding board for some things, and he is obviously friends with SL. Not sure they need to go as far as a formal appointment.

If we did I'd probably think he's better suited to being a non-exec director over having another executive.

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35 minutes ago, RedRock said:

Saw that Richard Scudamore was with SL yesterday.

That would be a good appointment as Executive Chairman, to help share the burden with Jon. 

Family Lansdown - Scudamore - Gould - Pearson. Not a bad off- the -field set up. Almost Premier League I’d say. 

Just need to tweak the coaching with a bit of top quality/experience and sort the recruitment out. Then, with the infrastructure we have in place, there would be few better positioned Clubs in the Championship.

Merely the players to sort then, aside from FFP.

 

 

Mooted as an idea several times on FBC Podcast, a good one at that.

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25 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said:

Share the burden with John. I would love to know what the bloke does.

Hopefully asks a lot of questions about what Gould is doing and hopefully is trying to figure out if what Gould is doing is in the best long term interests of the club, you know like he did with Ashton.

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“Bristol City are the biggest team from the biggest city that’s never been in and so of course on one level, it’s a source of absolute frustration,” he said.

“But I know it’s also a source of frustration to our owner and benefactor Steve who nobody, no Bristol City fan can have any criticism of the way he has run that club. 

“We got to the playoffs. We were only a Dean Windass overhead kick from the Premier League at that point and so we can get close again.”

Taken from an article dated 15/02/2022

 https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2022-02-15/nobody-took-bristol-seriously-ex-premier-league-boss-richard-scudamore

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11 minutes ago, Abraham Romanovich said:

 

“Bristol City are the biggest team from the biggest city that’s never been in and so of course on one level, it’s a source of absolute frustration,” he said.

“But I know it’s also a source of frustration to our owner and benefactor Steve who nobody, no Bristol City fan can have any criticism of the way he has run that club. 

“We got to the playoffs. We were only a Dean Windass overhead kick from the Premier League at that point and so we can get close again.”

Taken from an article dated 15/02/2022

 https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2022-02-15/nobody-took-bristol-seriously-ex-premier-league-boss-richard-scudamore

If that’s his view I wouldn’t want him involved with the club whilst Lansdown is here. I assume he was either simply invited as a guest yesterday though.

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22 minutes ago, Abraham Romanovich said:

 

“Bristol City are the biggest team from the biggest city that’s never been in and so of course on one level, it’s a source of absolute frustration,” he said.

“But I know it’s also a source of frustration to our owner and benefactor Steve who nobody, no Bristol City fan can have any criticism of the way he has run that club. 

“We got to the playoffs. We were only a Dean Windass overhead kick from the Premier League at that point and so we can get close again.”

Taken from an article dated 15/02/2022

 https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2022-02-15/nobody-took-bristol-seriously-ex-premier-league-boss-richard-scudamore

I don’t recall Windass scoring from an overhead kick ...

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31 minutes ago, Riaz said:

I hope scudamore has nothing to do with this club.

This is the guy who come up with the 39th game!!

Given his experience and knowledge then (if it was an actual possibility) it would be a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face, to not use him.

But it would annoy me a bit given his role in maintaining the system of parachute payments which make it so difficult for clubs like ours to achieve success in this league. City fan or not.

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1 hour ago, RedRock said:

Saw that Richard Scudamore was with SL yesterday.

That would be a good appointment as Executive Chairman, to help share the burden with Jon. 

Family Lansdown - Scudamore - Gould - Pearson. Not a bad off- the -field set up. Almost Premier League I’d say. 

Just need to tweak the coaching with a bit of top quality/experience and sort the recruitment out. Then, with the infrastructure we have in place, there would be few better positioned Clubs in the Championship.

Merely the players to sort then, aside from FFP.

 

 

Easy!

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37 minutes ago, Riaz said:

I hope scudamore has nothing to do with this club.

This is the guy who come up with the 39th game!!

Why not hire a supporter who knows the business of football inside and out and has contacts at the very top of football?

His job was to maximise profits for the member clubs of the prem, he was wildly successful at that.

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3 minutes ago, slartibartfast said:

I always thought Soundwell was 100% sag territory... he's lying !??

Certainly far more blue than red but like all of East Bristol there have always been City fans dotted about.

Not sure too many areas were ever 100% sag.

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2 hours ago, Abraham Romanovich said:

“But I know it’s also a source of frustration to our owner and benefactor Steve who nobody, no Bristol City fan can have any criticism of the way he has run that club. 

Sounds like a bellend. Just another arse-smoke-blower that will massage Lansdown's ego. Stick to the horse racing. 

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6 hours ago, Riaz said:

I hope scudamore has nothing to do with this club.

This is the guy who come up with the 39th game!!

If you like your football to be about money and little else, Scudamore is your man. 

For me, I hate his legacy in football. Others will love it. 

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4 hours ago, CotswoldRed said:

If you like your football to be about money and little else, Scudamore is your man. 

For me, I hate his legacy in football. Others will love it. 

Agree. Complete *****. Parachute payments and the Elite Player Performance Plan will be his legacy. 

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3 hours ago, The Bard said:

He'd be useful sorting out Bristol Sport which is a shambles from what I can see.  If Lansdown wants to sell up, he could be involved as a deal maker.

Don't want him anywhere near actually running Bristol City though. Need football people for that.

Scudamore would be asset to City simply for his knowledge and contacts within the game, plus he’s a City fan.

I imagine that with his profile in the game that’s he’s had a plethora of various offers many of them global and when Smarmy Ashton left I thought Scudamore would have made an ideal CEO but obviously never happened.

 

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11 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

He’s chairman. Which means he puts the chairs out when there is a meeting for the board. 
A big responsibility.

 

 

better suited to the gas then major with their white plastic lightweight chairs. hows your head today?

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23 hours ago, Pezo said:

Hopefully asks a lot of questions about what Gould is doing and hopefully is trying to figure out if what Gould is doing is in the best long term interests of the club, you know like he did with Ashton.

Why would you not think Gould was doing a good job? His reputation in cricket is absolutely golden.

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14 hours ago, Robbored said:

Scudamore would be asset to City simply for his knowledge and contacts within the game, plus he’s a City fan.

I imagine that with his profile in the game that’s he’s had a plethora of various offers many of them global and when Smarmy Ashton left I thought Scudamore would have made an ideal CEO but obviously never happened.

 

So replace a tinpot smarmy money orientated bluffer with a premier league proven smarmy money orientated bluffer?

What does he actually know?  How to get inflated prices for tv deals. How to suck money out of an organisation dripping with it..

Contacts from a few years ago when we're looking to buy Championship free agents and league 1/2 youngsters won't really help in anyway.

 

1 hour ago, Roadrunner said:

I would have thought that with Richards contact re the Premier in England and world wide would be a useful person if you were looking at selling the club.

Exactly.

 

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3 hours ago, SecretSam said:

Why would you not think Gould was doing a good job? His reputation in cricket is absolutely golden.

I don't know, I'm not close enough to it and that's the problem, but that's why a non exec board exists - to hold the executive to account.

We don't know that the reason his reputation in cricket was good because he had a good team around him.

The problem with C level executives is you don't realise the positives or negatives for about 5 years and they usually move on every 4 years!

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18 minutes ago, The Bard said:

What does he actually know?  How to get inflated prices for tv deals.

What does he actually know? ? Turned the PL into the most attractive and powerful league in the world - that not enough ?

Scudamore is a life long City fan is he not? 

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27 minutes ago, The Bard said:

So replace a tinpot smarmy money orientated bluffer with a premier league proven smarmy money orientated bluffer?

What does he actually know?  How to get inflated prices for tv deals. How to suck money out of an organisation dripping with it..

Contacts from a few years ago when we're looking to buy Championship free agents and league 1/2 youngsters won't really help in anyway.

 

What leads you suggest that Scudamore is a a bluffer or a fraud as Ashton was? 

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27 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said:

What does he actually know? ? Turned the PL into the most attractive and powerful league in the world - that not enough ?

Scudamore is a life long City fan is he not? 

So are a load of people stood near me who can barely complete a sentence.

The skills you list, what use are they to us? 

We're an underachieving championship club. He has a high level background in sales basically. Never worked for an actual club.

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1 minute ago, The Bard said:

The skills you list, what use are they to us? 

We're an underachieving championship club. He has a high level background in sales basically. Never worked for an actual club.

He has proven business acumen. Dismissing him in the manner you are doing is ridiculous. Anyway, for me he is just in the stands watching his team as a fan. If he has been offered some kind of role then that's good for us

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24 minutes ago, Robbored said:

What leads you suggest that Scudamore is a a bluffer or a fraud as Ashton was? 

If he us presenting himself as being able to run a club I'd be doubtful. That's a nuts and bo lj ts role which is not his background. He didn't turn the premier league into this global brand. He negotiated deals.

 

If he's advising Lansdown on how to sell the club it would make perfect sense.

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13 minutes ago, The Bard said:

If he us presenting himself as being able to run a club I'd be doubtful. That's a nuts and bo lj ts role which is not his background. He didn't turn the premier league into this global brand. He negotiated deals.

 

If he's advising Lansdown on how to sell the club it would make perfect sense.

No reason to suggest he’s a bluffer tho.

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2 hours ago, TonyTonyTony said:

What does he actually know? ? Turned the PL into the most attractive and powerful league in the world - that not enough ?

Scudamore is a life long City fan is he not? 

That doesn’t mean he has the skills to run a football club. 
He’s just a slightly higher spec version of Mark Ashton - a salesman who works in football. 
 

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28 minutes ago, Harry said:

That doesn’t mean he has the skills to run a football club. 
He’s just a slightly higher spec version of Mark Ashton - a salesman who works in football. 
 

 

People are talking about him joining as a non-exec. Not "running the club".

What he knows about football is more than the Lansdowns, which is why it would be good to have such a voice on the board. 

Let's remember Richard Gould was a tank commander before he worked here in a commercial role for 4 years and then worked in cricket for 16 years, where the everyday challenges are quite different. 

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40 minutes ago, Harry said:

That doesn’t mean he has the skills to run a football club. 
He’s just a slightly higher spec version of Mark Ashton - a salesman who works in football. 
 

I never said he should run our club. I said his proven business acumen, combined with the fact he is a city fan, would be an asset to us if he was offered a role in the club.

As for the comment about being a slightly higher spec version of MA - Ashton isn't even on the same chapter, let alone page as Scudamore. Being CEO of the biggest football league in the world for > 10 yrs trumps being CEO of the tractor boys by quite a distance

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1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

People are talking about him joining as a non-exec. Not "running the club".

What he knows about football is more than the Lansdowns, which is why it would be good to have such a voice on the board. 

Let's remember Richard Gould was a tank commander before he worked here in a commercial role for 4 years and then worked in cricket for 16 years, where the everyday challenges are quite different. 

 

1 hour ago, TonyTonyTony said:

I never said he should run our club. I said his proven business acumen, combined with the fact he is a city fan, would be an asset to us if he was offered a role in the club.

As for the comment about being a slightly higher spec version of MA - Ashton isn't even on the same chapter, let alone page as Scudamore. Being CEO of the biggest football league in the world for > 10 yrs trumps being CEO of the tractor boys by quite a distance

The quotes I responded to were ones which started from Robbored’s comment saying he would make a good CEO. 
So I was responding to him fulfilling that role. Which he’s no more experienced at or has the skills for than Ashton did. 
Clearly a successful salesman but nothing on his CV to suggest he could be a successful day to day CEO of a football club. 
Commercial Director? Yep, go right ahead. But I’d think that would be a bit below him. 
 

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17 minutes ago, Harry said:

 

The quotes I responded to were ones which started from Robbored’s comment saying he would make a good CEO. 
So I was responding to him fulfilling that role. Which he’s no more experienced at or has the skills for than Ashton did. 
Clearly a successful salesman but nothing on his CV to suggest he could be a successful day to day CEO of a football club. 
Commercial Director? Yep, go right ahead. But I’d think that would be a bit below him. 
 

 

I suggest a non-executive director, not a club employee.  A part-time basically advisory role that might hopefully temper farragoes like the Holden appointment. 

Others have suggested having an ex-player in that role but I think - with a few very notable exceptions - ex-players have made poor directors at lots of clubs. I think you need commercial nous, contacts and a knowledge of the game's realities. Being a genuine fan helps too.

I don't see any reason why we would need to replace Richard Gould at all, but if we did there is no reason why Scudamore couldn't do it - there is no set career ladder for a football club's CEO - but why would he want to do it? He's in his early 60s, made so much money he doesn't need a f/t job, particularly one that is such a ball-ache as running City must be. 

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A CEO of a football club should largely be someone who is seen but not heard.... Richard Gould is very much someone like that. Just gets on with the job and runs the club as he should whether things are going well or not on the pitch. For the most part, the CEO should go about their business in the background and just get on with working to improve the club, working with the manager and the board to try and ensure everything comes together. I guess a bit like a conductor of an orchestra. You also have to remember that a football club is a completely different business to most - so any role within the structure of the business is probably slightly different to the norm. 

Mark Ashton on the other hand was someone who loved the attention and the limelight and was happy to take the plaudits, whether he deserved them or not, when things were going well. But when things got tough, was nowhere to be seen. And this behaviour has been repeated at Ipswich. High fiving fans a few months ago as if they had won the league.... but now there is a bit of unrest, he has crawled back under his rock. Mark Ashton, for all his faults (of which there are many!) has one thing going for him... he is a master blagger. He is one of those people who bullshits their way through life, leaving a trail of destruction in his wake but still somehow comes out smelling of roses and lands on his feet no matter what. For that, I have to applaud him - because it takes some special kind of arrogance and belief to do what he does and somehow seem like he is doing a good job to those who employ him. He was on £500k a year at City. Someone signed off on that wage.... just think about that. 

 

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