Bristol Oil Services Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 You read this on here, over and over. Merrick and Ritchie, Arsenal, Alan Dicks 1976 anyone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastendboy1965 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Not really comparable to a decision solely of the club ? Those two hero/s of ours chose to stay with us through loyalty and were happy to do so due mainly to the tremendous team spirt that existed at the time , they were of course different class, its why we still hold them both in the highest esteem. Only in 1981 when all was lost did TV Tom move to Sunderland, he hated it there by the ay and returned in 1982. Sir Geoff loved the club so much too. Shame the modern game has so few of these characters left, if any. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) Which clubs do not sell their best players? Man City? Real Madrid? Edited April 24, 2022 by Pickle Rick 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 26 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said: You read this on here, over and over. Merrick and Ritchie, Arsenal, Alan Dicks 1976 anyone? Marvin Brown 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, glynriley said: Marvin Brown I raise you Tristan Plummer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Coach Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Every club is a selling club at the right price 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Yet Alan Dicks wanted to have the Scottish national team's midfield as Bristol City players. We weren't always a selling club albeit for a season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bristol Oil Services said: You read this on here, over and over. Merrick and Ritchie, Arsenal, Alan Dicks 1976 anyone? 30 minutes ago, Norn Iron said: Yet Alan Dicks wanted to have the Scottish national team's midfield as Bristol City players. We weren't always a selling club albeit for a season! They were different times and as has been implied the players were a factor. However in 76 England was a different place and football and footballers were a different beast. The model has changed. Particularly at City who five years after 76 were heading for Armageddon. Fast forward to now, it’s the only way clubs can build. If English football changes to the Baseball/ American football model where everything is controlled by the league and not the clubs things might change. But it won’t! Vested interests at European big clubs will not allow break ins unless the are backed by money from oil multi multi billionaires! Then maybe! Edited April 24, 2022 by REDOXO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Bristol Oil Services said: You read this on here, over and over. Merrick and Ritchie, Arsenal, Alan Dicks 1976 anyone? The games long moved on. Albeit unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 The Bosman ruling changed everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) In fairness we’ve bought a few players as well. Edited April 24, 2022 by Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 As much as I loved the team of the 70"s it was definitely a case of the whole being greater than the sum of its part's.We had occasional individuals like Cheese or Whitehead that would stand out, but it was all team ethic under Dicks. Whitehead was sold and Cheese would have gone somewhere if he had remained fit. Gerry Gow was wanted by Don Revie at Leeds, but he went to the England job so that never happened. We were also very good payers in that era, we had to be to compete, and there was no FFP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Leeds are a selling club as well. They sold us Norman Hunter and Bob Taylor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 2 hours ago, swanker said: Leeds are a selling club as well. They sold us Norman Hunter and Bob Taylor. And Neil Kilkenny 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 10 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: The Bosman ruling changed everything. Absolutely. A point that @Bristol Oil Servicesmight not be considering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 12 hours ago, Eastendboy1965 said: Not really comparable to a decision solely of the club ? Those two hero/s of ours chose to stay with us through loyalty and were happy to do so due mainly to the tremendous team spirt that existed at the time , they were of course different class, its why we still hold them both in the highest esteem. Only in 1981 when all was lost did TV Tom move to Sunderland, he hated it there by the ay and returned in 1982. Sir Geoff loved the club so much too. Shame the modern game has so few of these characters left, if any. . There wasn't the enormous wage differential between the first and second tier in those days either. Also worth bearing in mind that we sold season tickets in advance to help us to resist Arsenal's bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 Ok, try again: lots of posters insist that we have "always" been a selling club, whereas this is not quite the case. 99% of the time we might've been, but not always. Yes, the game has moved on but that is separate to whether we have "always" been a selling club. I'm not trying to suggest we hang on to our brightest young players in 2022, only that the idea that we have "always" been a selling club is not entirely true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 And if we had sold them in the 70's . 1982 might have been different 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Bristol Oil Services said: Ok, try again: lots of posters insist that we have "always" been a selling club, whereas this is not quite the case. 99% of the time we might've been, but not always. Yes, the game has moved on but that is separate to whether we have "always" been a selling club. I'm not trying to suggest we hang on to our brightest young players in 2022, only that the idea that we have "always" been a selling club is not entirely true. We sold Ritchie to sunderland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 15 hours ago, swanker said: Leeds are a selling club as well. They sold us Norman Hunter and Bob Taylor. John Shaw, Jimmy Mann and Lee Matthews also came to us from Leeds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: John Shaw, Jimmy Mann and Lee Matthews also came to us from Leeds. David Harle too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weepywall Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 6 hours ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: John Shaw, Jimmy Mann and Lee Matthews also came to us from Leeds. Didn't Carl Shutt come from Leeds aswell ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) Dave Rennie , Ronnie Sinclair , Gary Hamson also came from Leeds... .... and Harpal Singh ! Edited April 26, 2022 by Sheltons Army Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 On 24/04/2022 at 21:49, Bristol Oil Services said: You read this on here, over and over. Merrick and Ritchie, Arsenal, Alan Dicks 1976 anyone? Pre-Bosman, therefore irrelevant. Different times, back when a 'foreign' player usually meant a Scot or Irishman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, weepywall said: Didn't Carl Shutt come from Leeds aswell ? Didn't he go to Leeds, as part of the deal for Bob Taylor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 18 hours ago, Bristol Oil Services said: Ok, try again: lots of posters insist that we have "always" been a selling club, whereas this is not quite the case. 99% of the time we might've been, but not always. Yes, the game has moved on but that is separate to whether we have "always" been a selling club. I'm not trying to suggest we hang on to our brightest young players in 2022, only that the idea that we have "always" been a selling club is not entirely true. Thing is though, this was 46 years ago now & we took a single calculated gamble that we would get promoted to the top flight, which worked. Had we stayed down, we had a chance the season before to go up & blew it at Easter, then we would have sold them both that summer. I’m not sure a single example from a time that is now a very long time ago when football was entirely different financially really tells us too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Didn't he go to Leeds, as part of the deal for Bob Taylor? He did, we signed him from Sheffield Wednesday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 18 hours ago, Bristol Oil Services said: Ok, try again: lots of posters insist that we have "always" been a selling club, whereas this is not quite the case. 99% of the time we might've been, but not always. Yes, the game has moved on but that is separate to whether we have "always" been a selling club. I'm not trying to suggest we hang on to our brightest young players in 2022, only that the idea that we have "always" been a selling club is not entirely true. Think you are just being pedantic aren’t you. Are you @BS4 on Tour... in disguise or just trying to steal his job! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 There's understanding that every player has their price, and then there's relying on player sales to keep the club afloat. If we'd had Grealish, Toney and others they'd have been sold the second we received a sizeable bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Really glad you started this topic, it's about time someone told it how it is and made us aware that we sell players. Why has nobody realised until now?! WE'RE THE BEST IN THE WORLD, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO KEEP EVERYBODY!!! What a joke. Every few months this statement is made and its ******* moronic every time. Who in this division isn't a "selling club"? Who in the bottom two thirds of the Premier League isn't one too? Why do you think we have so much power to keep everyone at all times? This isn't 1968. Players want to better themselves and aren't going to just sit around and hope for the best. Yes, surround them with better players, great... but where does the money come from to do that?! Sell the fringe players? For what? There's a reason they aren't playing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted April 26, 2022 Author Share Posted April 26, 2022 6 hours ago, GrahamC said: Thing is though, this was 46 years ago now & we took a single calculated gamble that we would get promoted to the top flight, which worked. Had we stayed down, we had a chance the season before to go up & blew it at Easter, then we would have sold them both that summer. I’m not sure a single example from a time that is now a very long time ago when football was entirely different financially really tells us too much. No, nor do I. But it does tell us we haven’t "always" been a selling club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted April 26, 2022 Author Share Posted April 26, 2022 6 hours ago, And Its Smith said: Think you are just being pedantic aren’t you. A bit. There's people being worse than this on these things nowadays though, so I hear. The people on here going "we have always been a selling club!" need to know the history of their/our club a little better, to know about one of the greatest parts of our history. Worth flagging up, I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 8 hours ago, And Its Smith said: Think you are just being pedantic aren’t you. Are you @BS4 on Tour... in disguise or just trying to steal his job! There isn’t a vacancy at present - but nice to see @Bristol Oil Services is a fellow pedant, we need to stick together! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 We haven't "always" been a selling club as the OP states. That's because sometimes, we've had sweet FA to sell, or, we haven't needed the money. Going back a little prior to the example of Merrick and Ritchie. We sold a certain Chris Garland for £100k in 1971 to Chelsea and I believe Bobby Kellard, to balance the books. Most of the proceeds of those sales went to pay for the "new" Dolman stand. Two years later, we sold Peter Spiring to Liverpool, for £50k, says £60k in wiki, good business. Going back even further, late 1920's, according to my father in law, we sold two players to pay for the cover on the East End, it was known by supporters as the Keating and something stand, can't remember the name, after the two players sold. So although we've not "always" been a selling club, we've always sold, when we've needed the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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