Curr Avon Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 https://foreverbristolcity.podbean.com/ A solid 3-1 victory at Pride Park against the Rams extended the unbeaten run to 4 games. Ian, Mark & DaveP discuss the match action and debate whether we have turned a corner and are, at last, heading in the right direction. We also discuss whether wage assisted loan outs of the "unfavoured" are one way to get the wage bill down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: We also discuss whether wage assisted loan outs of the "unfavoured" are one way to get the wage bill down. Which is what we do already in some cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 No corner turned. We've crested a hill instead and can now see we've been heading in the right direction for a while. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: No corner turned. We've crested a hill instead and can now see we've been heading in the right direction for a while. I hope you’re right. But we all know all this positivity will be long gone the next time we lose! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 39 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: https://foreverbristolcity.podbean.com/ A solid 3-1 victory at Pride Park against the Rams extended the unbeaten run to 4 games. Ian, Mark & DaveP discuss the match action and debate whether we have turned a corner and are, at last, heading in the right direction. Absolutely we have ‘turned the corner’ recent results show that - maybe the team getting booed after the Posh draw has had a positive impact on the squad………... Nige is nearing the end of his first full season and it’s taken him this long to implement what he wants from his players despite injuries to his experienced players. I don’t think he’s been able to pick his strongest 11 all season. For me he’s done the job that I was expecting - mid table. The silver lining is that he’s had to ‘blood’ youngsters and many of them have made the step up and that has to be a positive for all concerned. I’m looking forward to next season already! 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 37 minutes ago, Robbored said: Absolutely we have ‘turned the corner’ recent results show that - maybe the team getting booed after the Posh draw has had a positive impact on the squad………... Nige is nearing the end of his first full season and it’s taken him this long to implement what he wants from his players despite injuries to his experienced players. I don’t think he’s been able to pick his strongest 11 all season. For me he’s done the job that I was expecting - mid table. The silver lining is that he’s had to ‘blood’ youngsters and many of them have made the step up and that has to be a positive for all concerned. I’m looking forward to next season already! Exactly! We are showing and have shown a lot of upside, without hanging onto leads all season. Which has been tough for all of us. sometimes the poddy is decent others it’s been woe is me/everything with some of the regulars. I’ll give it a miss until next season now and perhaps The OP can get a few new/different non manic depressive perspectives to keep it fresh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, REDOXO said: Exactly! We are showing and have shown a lot of upside, without hanging onto leads all season. Which has been tough for all of us. sometimes the poddy is decent others it’s been woe is me/everything with some of the regulars. I’ll give it a miss until next season now and perhaps The OP can get a few new/different non manic depressive perspectives to keep it fresh! The podcasts that I’ve heard are largely negative in nature prompted largely by Ian Gay who can’t seem to see anything positive regarding City. Guys that I car share with turn off RB if he ever comes on - he’s sooo negative. I’ll give this one a miss as Mr Dreary is on it. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Mr Sno said: An interesting listen until Ian Gay mentioned extending the year on ODowdas deal. Absolute lunacy, another potential year on pre-covid wages on one of our biggest disappointments would be a terrible decision in my opinion. Wasn’t the rumour he’d been offered a new deal on hugely reduced terms? Either way, I hope we shake hands and part ways in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray savino Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 I don’t think we can say that a corner has been turned. But we’ve made some progress in an expected scrappy season. The biggest plus has seen a number of youngsters being given a chance and generally stepping up, at least in attitude if not talent as well. I think it really is that we’ve reached the end of stage 1 of change. This summer and next season I see as further demolishion work to be done and building/reinforcing the foundations for a rebuild. I would then hope the season after we might be in a better position to confidently compete at the other end of the table. What I do hope is that our building this time is more measured and realistic than under Mark Ashton. Less bullshit and ideas of grandeur, more Coventry, Luton, Millwall. I don’t mean in style of play, but more a sense of building a competitive team to a plan. Still ambitious, yes. But as I said realistic, doable, measured. I actually think NP realises this and there are signs that it might just work. But if we are expecting the narrative of the last 5 years, sleeping giant crap, etc, then forget it. It failed despite the flirtations with the top six, we didn’t possess the mentality to get over the line. Interestingly enough though, season 2016-17 we ended on 54 points in 17th place. All in all a bloody awful season apart from Tammy’s goals and, to be fair, a decent end to the campaign including that win over promoted Brighton. I’d hope we can trouble the top ten next year with greater consistency and a side taking shape, so that we only need to add a few pieces to a jigsaw the following season to then mount a challenge for top 6. Instead of ripping up a squad every 2 years and starting again. Whether NP sees this through who knows, but I think as fans we’ve got to hold our nerve at the minute, cos I just get the feeling that NP might just be the person to at least start building a more gritty and competitive mentality as he builds a squad. It won’t be an easy ride, and I do think that someone else may finish the job. As fans we are going to have to be patient sadly, cos we can’t spend our way to success, hence a more measured approach like Coventry, Luton, etc. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr Sno said: An interesting listen until Ian Gay mentioned extending the year on ODowdas deal. Absolute lunacy, another potential year on pre-covid wages on one of our biggest disappointments would be a terrible decision in my opinion. Presumably he said this mistakenly believing we could then get a fee for him? Absolutely bizarre suggestion, best all round if he moves on & we have at least some room for manoeuvre in the transfer market as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr Sno said: Well he may have been but Ian was saying trigger the 1 year deal - that would mean he would be on pre covid wages, which he just isn't worth It shows a complete lack of understanding of the financial situation / market, or more likely his refusal to accept it and then give him an angle to blame Pearson for a bad signing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Davefevs said: It shows a complete lack of understanding of the financial situation / market, or more likely his refusal to accept it and then give him an angle to blame Pearson for a bad signing! He blames Nige for everything. Repeatedly referring to ‘facts’ without any context whatsoever…………... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, Mr Sno said: But why would ODowda accept a deal? Sit for 12 months and wait until he is a free agent where he will cost £0 which will benefit the available wage for him + a signing on fee, also not forgetting he will be able to pick and choose which club to go to. If you take up the option you are banking on 1) a club willing to pay when he is a free agent in a year 2) him accepting when he could just wait.....these kind of 1 year extensions are only really viable with players that have value and track record e.g Brereton, Carvalho.....for someone like ODowda it would be a silly decision. I have no idea. I was trying to understand his logic, but I’m not sure there was any to begin with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Does Ian Gay know what wages O Dowda would be on if the year extension was triggered. I suspect it would barely cover any fee we might get for him next January. We also would have a player hanging around the squad with no chance of playing for the next 6 months. Clueless thinking. Get rid and save on those wages. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Fed up of hearing how we should break up our most successful forward line for years. All three of you seem hell bent on getting Martin out of the team. No one mentioned that a few weeks ago NP said it's obvious where we need to strengthen and that the spine of the team was the most important with a CB as top priority 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Fed up of hearing how we should break up our most successful forward line for years. All three of you seem hell bent on getting Martin out of the team. No one mentioned that a few weeks ago NP said it's obvious where we need to strengthen and that the spine of the team was the most important with a CB as top priority I’m glad that I haven’t listened to it. I’d feel as frustrated as those that have heard it. Not so long ago Ian Gay was slagging off AW, never included him in any of his line ups - look how wrong he was. I do wonder if he’s just another bluffer who talks a good game but doesn’t understand the complexity of the beautiful game but thinks he does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: Presumably he said this mistakenly believing we could then get a fee for him? Absolutely bizarre suggestion, best all round if he moves on & we have at least some room for manoeuvre in the transfer market as a result. For the record, I mentioned releasing O'Dowda as he isn't brave enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sir Geoff said: Fed up of hearing how we should break up our most successful forward line for years. All three of you seem hell bent on getting Martin out of the team. No one mentioned that a few weeks ago NP said it's obvious where we need to strengthen and that the spine of the team was the most important with a CB as top priority I think hell-bent is too strong. I've suggested that that playing without Martin could force us to play the ball on the ground, by pushing Weimann into the central striker' srole with Scott in behind. Its just an opinion and you're very welcome ask to join the Podcast and challenge it. Edited April 25, 2022 by Curr Avon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Chappers Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Let’s not go overboard, our wins were against an ordinary Stoke side thank to a fluke goal, and against a young Derby team. See what the summer brings, particularly sorting out the huge losses and FFP. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 6 hours ago, Robbored said: Absolutely we have ‘turned the corner’ recent results show that - maybe the team getting booed after the Posh draw has had a positive impact on the squad………... Nige is nearing the end of his first full season and it’s taken him this long to implement what he wants from his players despite injuries to his experienced players. I don’t think he’s been able to pick his strongest 11 all season. For me he’s done the job that I was expecting - mid table. The silver lining is that he’s had to ‘blood’ youngsters and many of them have made the step up and that has to be a positive for all concerned. I’m looking forward to next season already! We could well lose some of the players that are making us optimistic about our prospects next season, I will reserve judgement until I see who is still actually at the club come the start of next season, let's hope your and our optimism is not miss placed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Curr Avon said: I think hell-bent is too strong. I've suggested that that playing without Martin could force us to play the ball on the ground, by pushing Weimann into the central striker' srole with Scott in behind. Its just an opinion and you're very welcome ask to join the Podcast and challenge it. I am glad you said that. I think making it known more widely that the poddy is not a closed shop will help. Problem is you don’t know what head bangers you are going to get of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lerring Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 9 hours ago, SBB said: Wasn’t the rumour he’d been offered a new deal on hugely reduced terms? Either way, I hope we shake hands and part ways in the summer. Totally agree. I was thinking the other day... odowda has been with us for 6 years... say for arguments sake he'd been on an average of 10k per week (approx 0.5m per year). Those 6 years have cost us circa £3m in wages, and a £1m transfer fee if I recall correctly. If there's one player that personifies our overpaying for players to sit in their comfort zone (by not developing), it is odowda. Get rid. LEARN FROM IT. Move on. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lerring Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 8 hours ago, GrahamC said: Presumably he said this mistakenly believing we could then get a fee for him? This is the same bloke who says most weeks "it's all well and good fans saying sell palmer/ wells, but someone needs to want to buy them" Ian needs to heed his own advice - surely the same applies to odowda? who's going to want to buy him for anything like decent money? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Curr Avon said: I think hell-bent is too strong. I've suggested that that playing without Martin could force us to play the ball on the ground, by pushing Weimann into the central striker' srole with Scott in behind. Its just an opinion and you're very welcome ask to join the Podcast and challenge it. The current front three have done pretty well this season as our goals scored shows - why fix it if it’s not broken? Plus Martin adds extra height when defending in the same way that Famara did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 6 hours ago, pillred said: We could well lose some of the players that are making us optimistic about our prospects next season, I will reserve judgement until I see who is still actually at the club come the start of next season, let's hope your and our optimism is not miss placed. I’m optimistic at the start of every season pillred. I have been for over 50 years………….… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 10 hours ago, GrahamC said: Presumably he said this mistakenly believing we could then get a fee for him? Absolutely bizarre suggestion, best all round if he moves on & we have at least some room for manoeuvre in the transfer market as a result. COD or Ian? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Just now, The Bard said: COD or Ian? There are circumstances where the answer can be both. This is one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 10 hours ago, Sir Geoff said: Fed up of hearing how we should break up our most successful forward line for years. All three of you seem hell bent on getting Martin out of the team. No one mentioned that a few weeks ago NP said it's obvious where we need to strengthen and that the spine of the team was the most important with a CB as top priority That's not strictly true. Naming a best 11 for the opening fixture of 22/23 Martin did not feature in any of our preferred line ups as it was purely a case of trying to shape a formation using our best players, assuming we get no one better than what we already have as we cannot afford them and that all our stars remain. Bentley Kalas / Klose / Atkinson New signing / Williams / Scott / James / Pring Semenyo / Weimann The above assumes the one ESSENTIAL new signing at RWB and accommodates Scott in a much stronger midfield [how many times in games have we been overrun in this area?]. Based on form that just leaves space for Weimann & Semenyo. One comment on Martin in this thread concerning Martin's heading ability in defending corners - I might be blind but his headed clearances are not in the same league as Fam used to do when helping out. I agree with all the posters on here re. COD and I will challenge Ian in our next episode that we can get some value out of COD by offering an extension to his contract in order to get a fee for him. Totally flawed argument and a further waste of money - no one came in for him before he signed his latest deal and they are even less likely to now. A TOTAL disappointment over 6 seasons bar less than a handful of champagne moments. I don't see a single word of support for him on here which I must admit I find amusing when on those rare occasions he featured on the pitch I was slated for "having it in for him". Where are all of you COD lovers now? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted April 26, 2022 Author Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Robbored said: The current front three have done pretty well this season as our goals scored shows - why fix it if it’s not broken? Plus Martin adds extra height when defending in the same way that Famara did. If you listen to the Podcast, (and why not?) its based on the case for accommodating Alex Scott behind the strikers. Its all about opinions and you're very welcome to contribute to the debate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest london_Cider_red Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Curr Avon said: I think hell-bent is too strong. I've suggested that that playing without Martin could force us to play the ball on the ground, by pushing Weimann into the central striker' srole with Scott in behind. Its just an opinion and you're very welcome ask to join the Podcast and challenge it. In all fairness the podcast has said multiple times that Martin is a good player who’s not being used in his best roll. I don’t think ‘getting rid of him’ has ever been mentioned… correct me if I’m wrong but it’s more about giving the poor bloke a rest from being the battering ram of the team every week. This wouldn’t be the worst idea surly? If we play Martin against tougher defences to hold up the ball a bit more and use our quicker players against slower/ less agile defences. I think Martin is a very good player and is mentally and technically astute but he would be better if he could have a rest every now and then. I think he was only rested one game this season and came back the next with a MOTM performance? I’d happily keep Martin until he decides to retire if he continues like he has this season I just think a rest every now and then would do him and the team good Edited April 26, 2022 by london_Cider_red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 I get the need to generate debate but I wouldn’t be that optimistic we will be able to hold on to both Semenyo & Scott. Secondly I’d be absolutely amazed if our line up for the opening game of next season includes just 1 new player. Next, I like Kalas but it is highly likely that we will look to move him on. Finally, Pring over Dasilva? Really? The latter has been our best player of late, the former isn’t someone I am convinced is in Pearson’s plans. I reckon a maximum of 7 of that side starts our first league game of 22/23. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Out of interest, why the desire to play Alex Scott behind the strikers? Most of his age group appearances (both City and England) are in the centre of midfield. Is it because there is a thinking that “flair player must be a number 10”? My view is that you want to get Alex Scott on the ball as much as possible and in when their third you want him facing forward. Playing him as a number ten limits how much you get him on the ball, and he’ll spend a fair bit of of his ball receiving positions back to goal or on half-turn. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelboy Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 16 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Out of interest, why the desire to play Alex Scott behind the strikers? Most of his age group appearances (both City and England) are in the centre of midfield. Is it because there is a thinking that “flair player must be a number 10”? My view is that you want to get Alex Scott on the ball as much as possible and in when their third you want him facing forward. Playing him as a number ten limits how much you get him on the ball, and he’ll spend a fair bit of of his ball receiving positions back to goal or on half-turn. I agree with this 100% I think his best game all season was the home game against Coventry when he played in the middle. Didn’t put a foot wrong all night, was the best player on the pitch by some distance! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, super slick said: I agree with this 100% I think his best game all season was the home game against Coventry when he played in the middle. Didn’t put a foot wrong all night, was the best player on the pitch by some distance! Him and Han did well together in those couple of games they played together too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, TomF said: Is it possible to transfer fans as well as players at the end of the season? Nice idea but who the hell is going to take them off our hands? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Tafkarmlf said: Agreed largely, we've been lucky for the first time in ages, we've also had barring a crazy half, an inspirational number of excellent saves from Bents that have kept scores against down and some woeful finishing has also helped. We've also been clinical in front of goal, which has helped massively Yes, we have had wins and they're great, however some of the play such as vs 10 men or the mid section of the Derby game has been utter rubbish and wins or decent results against end of season teams in the main can flatter to decieve. I like what we're trying to do, and has been that way since Preston. It doesn't always click though and I'm not filled with the optimism that others are, though I am enjoying watching football again. There was nearly some positivity from you there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Josh Owers watch. 27 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted April 26, 2022 Author Share Posted April 26, 2022 48 minutes ago, TomF said: Is it possible to transfer fans as well as players at the end of the season? Yes. Australia would be nice, or maybe the Bahamas. 25 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said: Josh Owers watch. 27 minutes. Ian is always Joshing. (see what I did there?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: Yes. Australia would be nice, or maybe the Bahamas. How about Rwanda. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted April 26, 2022 Author Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Davefevs said: How about Rwanda. Naughty!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, headhunter said: That's not strictly true. Naming a best 11 for the opening fixture of 22/23 Martin did not feature in any of our preferred line ups as it was purely a case of trying to shape a formation using our best players, assuming we get no one better than what we already have as we cannot afford them and that all our stars remain. Bentley Kalas / Klose / Atkinson New signing / Williams / Scott / James / Pring Semenyo / Weimann The above assumes the one ESSENTIAL new signing at RWB and accommodates Scott in a much stronger midfield [how many times in games have we been overrun in this area?]. Based on form that just leaves space for Weimann & Semenyo. One comment on Martin in this thread concerning Martin's heading ability in defending corners - I might be blind but his headed clearances are not in the same league as Fam used to do when helping out. I agree with all the posters on here re. COD and I will challenge Ian in our next episode that we can get some value out of COD by offering an extension to his contract in order to get a fee for him. Totally flawed argument and a further waste of money - no one came in for him before he signed his latest deal and they are even less likely to now. A TOTAL disappointment over 6 seasons bar less than a handful of champagne moments. I don't see a single word of support for him on here which I must admit I find amusing when on those rare occasions he featured on the pitch I was slated for "having it in for him". Where are all of you COD lovers now? As per your highlighted line. Playing the best players was the downfall of many an England manager, not least Sven. A cohesive team is better imo than just shoe horning your 'best' players into the eleven. Not sure that I agree Scott would make the midfield stronger, thus eliminating it being overrun. Unfortunately him and Weimann ideally occupy roughly the same position (No.10). They are both useful in a starting 11 so Scott has to sacrifice his favoured position, as Weimann currently 'has the shirt.' The question then becomes can Scott play in a midfield 2/3 behind the front 3. (imo a role that would suit him better than the no.10 touted on the podcast) No doubt we will find out in July. Edited April 26, 2022 by Sir Geoff extra text 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: As per your highlighted line. Playing the best players was the downfall of many an England manager, not least Sven. A cohesive team is better imo than just shoe horning your 'best' players into the eleven. Not sure that I agree Scott would make the midfield stronger, thus eliminating it being overrun. Unfortunately him and Weimann ideally occupy roughly the same position (No.10). They are both useful in a starting 11 so Scott has to sacrifice his favoured position, as Weimann currently 'has the shirt.' The question then becomes can Scott play in a midfield 2/3 behind the front 3. No doubt we will find out in July. I agree 100% re England: Lampard or Gerrard, not both. Using the same criteria of my selection, which excluded Martin, what would be your 11? Btw, as someone else commented on this thread, Martin needs a rest but I fully expect him to start our final two games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Robbored said: The current front three have done pretty well this season as our goals scored shows - why fix it if it’s not broken? Plus Martin adds extra height when defending in the same way that Famara did. One of my reservations is can Martin and Weimann reproduce the form for next season. They have both come back from injury and played most minutes of most games. Will their bodies be up to it? It could get broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: Out of interest, why the desire to play Alex Scott behind the strikers? Most of his age group appearances (both City and England) are in the centre of midfield. Is it because there is a thinking that “flair player must be a number 10”? My view is that you want to get Alex Scott on the ball as much as possible and in when their third you want him facing forward. Playing him as a number ten limits how much you get him on the ball, and he’ll spend a fair bit of of his ball receiving positions back to goal or on half-turn. It also bumps out Weimann from his favoured and most productive position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 27 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: No doubt we will find out in July. As he lines up for West Ham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Chappers Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Tafkarmlf said: Agreed largely, we've been lucky for the first time in ages, we've also had barring a crazy half, an inspirational number of excellent saves from Bents that have kept scores against down and some woeful finishing has also helped. We've also been clinical in front of goal, which has helped massively Yes, we have had wins and they're great, however some of the play such as vs 10 men or the mid section of the Derby game has been utter rubbish and wins or decent results against end of season teams in the main can flatter to decieve. I like what we're trying to do, and has been that way since Preston. It doesn't always click though and I'm not filled with the optimism that others are, though I am enjoying watching football again. Totally agree, our finances are not good, we won’t be able to compete for top players, and sales money will mostly go on debt reduction. Reality check needed, it will just be a case of hoping we can offload a few, then looking for a few low budget signings and letting the kids develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 42 minutes ago, headhunter said: I agree 100% re England: Lampard or Gerrard, not both. Using the same criteria of my selection, which excluded Martin, what would be your 11? Btw, as someone else commented on this thread, Martin needs a rest but I fully expect him to start our final two games Realistically; Bentley New RB, Kalas (Klose if TK sold), Atkinson, JD New DM Weimann, James, Scott, Semenyo Martin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, headhunter said: I agree 100% re England: Lampard or Gerrard, not both. Using the same criteria of my selection, which excluded Martin, what would be your 11? Btw, as someone else commented on this thread, Martin needs a rest but I fully expect him to start our final two games I don't have a preferred 11, but am more than happy with the front 3. If Wells leaves then we need someone in to replace him. I am more than happy to let NP make the decision of where Scott plays and the medical team to assess how many minutes Martin should play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 54 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: As he lines up for West Ham. Martin ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Constructive feedback - please can you stop talking over one another (especially Ian!) it makes it a very hard listen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 46 minutes ago, Selred said: Realistically; Bentley New RB, Kalas (Klose if TK sold), Atkinson, JD New DM Weimann, James, Scott, Semenyo Martin No Tanner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 21 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: No Tanner? No. Don't think he's ready yet. Deputy for next season in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 45 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: I don't have a preferred 11, but am more than happy with the front 3. If Wells leaves then we need someone in to replace him. I am more than happy to let NP make the decision of where Scott plays and the medical team to assess how many minutes Martin should play. My view is that it’s a squad game, and I try not to get drawn too much into “best eleven” type debates. We have seen this season that Nige has never had a full compliment to pick from, whether that be Semenyo missing early season, Baker for a large chunk, Williams and James sporadically, etc. etc. sometimes you do have to change for the opponent also. What I do hope to see next season is more progress towards a playing system (not necessarily formation) and whatever recruitment we do, be aligned to it. I think we have made progress, although not all of it is easy to spot. Knowing which players you don’t want is equally as important as knowing the ones you do. I think Nige has sorted this bit….getting them out of the club is the hard bit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Curr Avon said: If you listen to the Podcast, (and why not?) its based on the case for accommodating Alex Scott behind the strikers. Its all about opinions and you're very welcome to contribute to the debate. I’ve e already explained why I won’t be listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Major Isewater said: One of my reservations is can Martin and Weimann reproduce the form for next season. They have both come back from injury and played most minutes of most games. Will their bodies be up to it? It could get broken. That could be said for any pair of strikers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I think we have made progress, although not all of it is easy to spot. Knowing which players you don’t want is equally as important as knowing the ones you do. I think Nige has sorted this bit….getting them out of the club is the hard bit. I hesitate to say this but... What we need this summer to get rid of deadwood like Kasey Palmer (and one or two others) is a CEO who's a top notch snake oil salesman. What we need is.... Mark A - no, I can't bring myself to say it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 17 hours ago, Davefevs said: It shows a complete lack of understanding of the financial situation / market, or more likely his refusal to accept it and then give him an angle to blame Pearson for a bad signing! Ouch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 21 hours ago, Mr Sno said: An interesting listen until Ian Gay mentioned extending the year on ODowdas deal. Absolute lunacy, another potential year on pre-covid wages on one of our biggest disappointments would be a terrible decision in my opinion. I don't know what he was smoking, but I certainly don't want any of it. Gaslogic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said: I hesitate to say this but... What we need this summer to get rid of deadwood like Kasey Palmer (and one or two others) is a CEO who's a top notch snake oil salesman. What we need is.... Mark A - no, I can't bring myself to say it. Problem is that kuva will subsequently sign another load of expensive horse shite to massive his ridiculous ego. Train Guy. Stick with Richard Gould, he might have the personality of John Major but at least you don’t need to check if your watch & wallet are still there after shaking hands.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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