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1 hour ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

I was at that game. The kit wasn't ours but borrowed because we failed to pack our away kit. After Alan Hay scored a screamer we fell apart and lost 4-1.

An easy mistake to make, they're weird ,they've changed their club colours from red to blue and back again a couple of times !

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22 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Pointless!!! Could have someone’s eye out with those! ???

So, is this under the umbrella of Pula / Bristol Sport….or a cynic might suggest Jon’s new venture is taking money out of the club for his own company’s benefit.  Nice cushy number if so.  Be nice to get some transparency on this.  At least with the club sub-contracting certain elements to the likes of JMP, it’s a business-to-business relationship. To an outsider looking in, this looks all a bit too convenient!

Perhaps they are for aerodynamic downforce?

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19 minutes ago, soultrader said:

Perhaps they are for aerodynamic downforce?

Or the collars are mini wings to help players fly through the air quicker and further. More goals especially diving headers that commenced from the half way line!

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19 hours ago, Ivorguy said:

Don’t know what you mean.  It is OUR traditional kit when we fielded a team of great quality and we were promoted.

Too few of us seniors around who have lived thro a great deal of City’s history.  In my case, counting departed family members, we supported City before we became City.

What is genuine tradition for some is novel to others

I love this kit.  Memories of Milton charging down the wing and crossing to Atyeo provided some of my best moments supporting City as a child.

I think "tradition" and "identity" usually means "what they wore when I first started watching". That's why the purple and lime is special to me, reminds me of my first season watching City, and similarly I've always favoured white socks, because that's what I remember. If you watched us back in the 40s to 50s then hooped socks were regular.

Identity changes over time and with it people become nostalgic to a certain era.

Arsenal were around for 50 years before they started wearing white sleeves, and they had blue socks at one point

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40 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

I think "tradition" and "identity" usually means "what they wore when I first started watching". That's why the purple and lime is special to me, reminds me of my first season watching City, and similarly I've always favoured white socks, because that's what I remember. If you watched us back in the 40s to 50s then hooped socks were regular.

Identity changes over time and with it people become nostalgic to a certain era.

Arsenal were around for 50 years before they started wearing white sleeves, and they had blue socks at one point

Agreed, the nostalgia with the east end is understandable for those who stood/sat in it, but future generations in 50 years will feel the same about the South Stand when the club decides to knock it down and make it bigger 

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1 hour ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

West Ham have messed with their traditions too with their new shirt (based on one they wore for two seasons 30 years ago), its not just us

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I prefer that to ours if I'm honest. The sleeve and the neck banding is a bit thick, maybe should be claret rather than blue, but I like the design overall. Its got some detail but overall looks classy.

Maybe a hybrid of the two shirts might have worked, eg that print on our sleeves in red and white with a better collar or more simple collarless design.

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2 hours ago, RedM said:

I prefer that to ours if I'm honest. The sleeve and the neck banding is a bit thick, maybe should be claret rather than blue, but I like the design overall. Its got some detail but overall looks classy.

Maybe a hybrid of the two shirts might have worked, eg that print on our sleeves in red and white with a better collar or more simple collarless design.

Not a bad shirt apart from the horrid round collar. I'm not a fan of round collars as dependant on the cut or materials used they can be very restrictive. 

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4 hours ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

West Ham have messed with their traditions too with their new shirt (based on one they wore for two seasons 30 years ago), its not just us

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I quite like that to be fair

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5 hours ago, Ronnie Sinclair said:

West Ham have messed with their traditions too with their new shirt (based on one they wore for two seasons 30 years ago), its not just us

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Always loved the colours, but that shirt looks a mess. 

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On 09/06/2022 at 13:29, Ronnie Sinclair said:

West Ham have messed with their traditions too with their new shirt (based on one they wore for two seasons 30 years ago), its not just us

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I'm sorry, it might be a colourblind thing, but its bugging me - could someone explain the tradition they have messed with here? 

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On 09/06/2022 at 13:37, Tinmans Love Child said:

Agreed, the nostalgia with the east end is understandable for those who stood/sat in it, but future generations in 50 years will feel the same about the South Stand when the club decides to knock it down and make it bigger 

Recently finished my dissertation on Lefebvre and Baudrillard through the conception of fan spaces, and I must disagree.

The East End elucidated socially emergent working class cultures. The South Stand was built with none of this in mind, and no longitudinal research to date notes that the same bonding processes will occur in the SS that were presend in the EE.

What is more likely is that there will be a swell of young people who are dissasitfised with the limitations provided by modern football, and will complain at length to afford themselves more room to express fanatical support for the club, while a group of elder fans will resist to preserve the status quo. Older fans who stood in the East End, and who benefited from the milleu of social conscience at the time, should realise that young people nowadays have lost the ability to have that same formative experience.

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6 hours ago, ZiderEyed said:

Recently finished my dissertation on Lefebvre and Baudrillard through the conception of fan spaces, and I must disagree.

The East End elucidated socially emergent working class cultures. The South Stand was built with none of this in mind, and no longitudinal research to date notes that the same bonding processes will occur in the SS that were presend in the EE.

What is more likely is that there will be a swell of young people who are dissasitfised with the limitations provided by modern football, and will complain at length to afford themselves more room to express fanatical support for the club, while a group of elder fans will resist to preserve the status quo. Older fans who stood in the East End, and who benefited from the milleu of social conscience at the time, should realise that young people nowadays have lost the ability to have that same formative experience.

You seem to be suggesting that the East End was built in order to elucidate working class cultures, which of course it wasn’t, it was built cheaply to simply allow fans to see what was happening on the pitch.  The cultures and sub cultures then evolved from there, but that wasn’t the original intention.

Some of those cultures already exist within the fan base, and naturally will relocate to the South Stand, also evolving into other sub cultures not yet thought of.  In fact the new generation of more affluent fan will no doubt change the definition of a football fan in years to come.

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3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Was there late 90s. Crap snow, lots of rocks and mud to ski over. But cheap as chips for apres ski!!!!

I went there twice, I think, early 90s and late 90s. Good fun, not exactly massive ski area but we had a good time. We had the smallest apartment for six people. 

6 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

 

Is that Andorra?

yes.

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That Boro shirt is bloody awful, actually makes ours seem much better.

Don't want to offend, but also makes me think that a football shirt isn't such a good look on people of a certain age either. Not great from their media/marketing department.

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36 minutes ago, Steve Watts said:

You know what?  I quite like that!

I do too! I'd like to see the full kit…

* Worn with white shorts and brown socks. Would've like to see black shorts

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On 16/06/2022 at 15:00, Davefevs said:

Was there late 90s. Crap snow, lots of rocks and mud to ski over. But cheap as chips for apres ski!!!!

Bansko in Bulgaria was ridiculously cheap, an Irish Pub picked 4 of us up from our hotel, took us to the pub, we had 3 courses and loads of drinks, then they dropped us back, £10 each!  And this was only 6/7 years ago.  Not a patch on the alps for skiing mind!

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2 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said:

Bansko in Bulgaria was ridiculously cheap, an Irish Pub picked 4 of us up from our hotel, took us to the pub, we had 3 courses and loads of drinks, then they dropped us back, £10 each!  And this was only 6/7 years ago.  Not a patch on the alps for skiing mind!

we went to Pamporovo in Bulgaria in 1991, 10p for a bottle of beer, 40p for spirits. I spent £10 in the whole week :laugh:. There was only eight ski lifts, and only three hotels but we had an absolute ball! 

Yes, you're right about the Alps, fabulous skiing.  I really want to go next year, haven't been since 2013. 

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