Released players announcement..

[Northern Red]

10 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

He’s under contract.

there is talk too that discussions are ongoing with COD re him staying on revised/reduced terms as per AW last year 

https://www.bristolworld.com/sport/football/bristol-city/callum-odowda-to-leave-bristol-city-after-release-as-talks-ongoing-with-four-players-to-stay-3695935

The article doesn't say that.

 

[alexukhc]

9 minutes ago, harrys said:

Do some people on here not understand what a contract is?

Wish some people in my team at work would forget 

[And Its Smith]

2 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Was just about to mention Soady, bit surprised by that one although it's possible that there are younger players in the pathway who they think are a better bet than him.

Ultimately it’s a bit of a surprise but we never release anyone who then goes onto better things. 12 months ago the surprise was Vince Harper and now Soady might get similar things written about him along the lines of the club regretting it one day. Highly likely they won’t regret it going on the track record. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Wonder how many of Moore, Bakinson, Palmer or Wells we will be able to move on.

Then the next notch down for differing reasons, Vyner and Baker.

[And Its Smith]

Just now, Mr Popodopolous said:

Wonder how many of Moore, Bakinson, Palmer or Wells we will be able to move on.

Then the next notch down for differing reasons, Vyner and Baker.

Probably about £70k per week in wages there.  £3.5m per year! Mental 

[Mr Popodopolous]

2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Probably about £70k per week in wages there.  £3.5m per year! Mental 

Across the 1st 4 or the 6?

[And Its Smith]

Just now, Mr Popodopolous said:

Across the 1st 4 or the 6?

Across the 6. It’s probably more than £70k per week but always estimate lower end of guess range. Could be as high as £90k per week. 

[shahanshahan]

Never forget...

[Merrick's Marvels]

23 minutes ago, Bobbie said:

What’s going on with Baker? I thought he would retire 

I think the fact we've made Klose an offer and put feelers out to Curtis Davies, tells you what's going on with Baker. It's just a matter of time. 

[Roadrunner]

Hopefully that might be good news re Nathan Baker, in that he may be available for the first team again next season. Good luck to Callum. Interesting that around  two thirds of our team are u 24. A question for you out their why are they still talking to Will Buse is contract is up in June. I have not seen him play is he any good.

[MC RISK77]

30 minutes ago, bris red said:

Cheerio COD 

Thanks for the memories!!

[TonyTonyTony]

1 minute ago, MC RISK77 said:

Thanks for the memories!!

You have many memories?? I can only remember the Norwich goal

[BCFCGav]

So as expected re ongoing talks with King, Klose and Cundy. Hope they aren't trying to strongarm us into paying ott wages. 

Buse is a bit of an odd one, would've expected a new deal to be pretty routine to sort there. 

[GrahamC]

8 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

I think the fact we've made Klose an offer and put feelers out to Curtis Davies, tells you what's going on with Baker. It's just a matter of time. 

If you listen to the Richard Gould interview pre Hull where he says that he still cannot take part in training & “a decision will be reached soon”, it is pretty obvious, especially as the concussion was sustained 6 months ago at the end of May.

Even if we can’t resolve this through insurance he’s clearly not going to play again, even if that means he stays on the payroll for one more year until his contract expires.

Edited May 16, 2022 by GrahamC

[Mendip City]

23 minutes ago, CyderInACan said:

That's COD's lot then. (Someone had to) 

Is now really the time and plaice to go fishing for laughs? 

[Pezo]

Glad COD has gone, had been here too long IMHO and gone stale - more than anything else he needed a new challenge if he is going to progress. 

I certainly hold no ill feelings towards the chap it was just the circumstance I didn't like but if we offer stupid contacts then players aren't going to turn them down so another MA master class IMHO.

I expect him to turn up in a championship squad (and probably tear us a new one).

[SouthStand Sandwich]

38 minutes ago, bris red said:

Cheerio COD 

Oh dear!

[And Its Smith]

12 minutes ago, Roadrunner said:

Hopefully that might be good news re Nathan Baker, in that he may be available for the first team again next season. Good luck to Callum. Interesting that around  two thirds of our team are u 24. A question for you out their why are they still talking to Will Buse is contract is up in June. I have not seen him play is he any good.

Assuming Will wants to see the plans for him. Very good young keeper.  3rd best at the club I would say. 

[Red Army 75]

Happy COD has left . I wish him well. Never recovered IMO from the contract saga

[The Coach]

Cheers CoD for the decent debut against Wigan. Apart from that...nothing else memorable. 

[Slippin cider]

Bye COD , best of luck , shame KP wasn’t OOC ….

[Merrick's Marvels]

22 minutes ago, Roadrunner said:

Hopefully that might be good news re Nathan Baker, in that he may be available for the first team again next season. 

If that is the case, I don't understand why we've offered the bloke brought in as short term cover for Baker a new contract or why we're rumoured to have spoken to another tall, experienced ball-winning centre-half.  

[chinapig]

4 minutes ago, The Coach said:

Cheers CoD for the decent debut against Wigan. Apart from that...nothing else memorable. 

 

[Jerseybean]

39 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

The article doesn't say that.

 

I know but it was reported elsewhere last week.

[East Londoner]

You just know CoD will go to a championship club and score against us 

[Agard Days Night]

Thank you Callum. 
 

Now that he’s gone, and not including Baker’s initial loan spell, who is the longest serving player at the club? 

[Dolman_Stand]

1 minute ago, Agard Days Night said:

Thank you Callum. 
 

Now that he’s gone, and not including Baker’s initial loan spell, who is the longest serving player at the club? 

Vyner or O'Leary?

[Robbored]

27 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said:

Thanks for the memories!!

What memories?  I don’t have any good ones of CoD. He did very little despite his undoubted skills and decent pace. Never skinned a full back or took on defenders. He was largely a waste of space.

[WolfOfWestStreet]

COD was proper rubbish and was paid too much money to contribute very little. Mark Ashton will probably give him a massive contract. A good day for the club. 

[Monkeh]

53 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

The article doesn't say that.

 

It didn't when we released wienman and Baker ether

[Andy082005]

6 minutes ago, Robbored said:

What memories?  I don’t have any good ones of CoD. He did very little despite his undoubted skills and decent pace. Never skinned a full back or took on defenders. He was largely a waste of space.

Don’t hold back mind. Why don’t you tell us what you really think?

[View from the Dolman]

1 minute ago, Monkeh said:

It didn't when we released wienman and Baker ether

Weimann was never announced as being released - https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/bristol-city-announce-retained-list/

[Charlie BCFC]

45 minutes ago, Roadrunner said:

Hopefully that might be good news re Nathan Baker, in that he may be available for the first team again next season. Good luck to Callum. Interesting that around  two thirds of our team are u 24. A question for you out their why are they still talking to Will Buse is contract is up in June. I have not seen him play is he any good.

Baker is under contract no matter what so he wouldn’t be on there. If he decides to cancel his contract then it will be announced separately I’d imagine

[TonyTonyTony]

4 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

It didn't when we released wienman and Baker ether

Wien, the German name for Vienna, which is the capital of Austria and the national team our Andy plays for. He is also a man.

It would be poetic if that was actually his name...

 

[supercidered]

49 minutes ago, shahanshahan said:

Never forget...

Didn't that dog used to play for Rovers?

I thought it was funny anyway! 

[pongo88]

It’s interesting how many U24s we have, though not surprising considering the number of age related teams. I wonder how many, who aren’t currently in the first team squad, will make it at Championship level, Leagues  1&2, or National League. 

[RedM]

CoD gone, well that's one less song we've got 

Being called 'a waste of space' is a bit harsh, even if it is by Robbored.

[The Bard]

1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said:

No huge shocks here overall. I think a lot of us called King becoming a player-coach (erring on the latter), and O’Dowda was always going if we didn’t take his contract option - like it or not, he’ll have suitors at this level.

Soady is the only minor one for me as I always thought he was highly rated historically but seems to have dropped off radar.

Now for the more interesting game of who we extend or sell 

Yep. A number to consider.

Bentley

O'Leary

Kalas

Dasilva

Massengo

Either new contracts or sold. I think we sell 1 keeper, Massengo and Kalas, keep the other keeper and Dasilva. 

[Lrrr]

33 minutes ago, chinapig said:

 

Also

 

[Dan Robin]

Klose signing would be great, especially if rumours about Baker's departure/retirement will be confirmed.  Cundy seem to have impressed too.

About COD...I think that he lost himself a bit, but he was also unlucky to get injured after he hit form. Anyway, I understand the choice of releasing him.

Edited May 16, 2022 by Dan Robin

[Major Isewater]

COD has his chips. 

[Agard Days Night]

35 minutes ago, Dolman_Stand said:

Vyner or O'Leary?

That is a sorry state of affairs 

[Wiltshire robin]

Nige is on sounds of the city live at 6 so will be interesting to hear what he’s got to say about the summer .

[Major Isewater]

5 minutes ago, Wiltshire robin said:

Nige is on sounds of the city live at 6 so will be interesting to hear what he’s got to say about the summer .

It gets hot? 

[Sandhurst Red]

Players do come and go, however do remember that they are no different than you or I and have feelings etc.

Callum was amazing when he met my son, giving him so much time and encouraging him to pursue a dream of playing football.

Last week was mental health week, and many don't know about some of the injuries that Callum has faced as he is quite a private person.

Many may say he should/could have delivered more, but I will say this - from what I saw, he gave his all and both he, and his family cared deeply about this club. He also did a lot in the community that was unnoticed and unreported, and represented Bristol City as a professional at all times. 

Good luck Callum and I for one hope you go on to achieve more in your career.

 

Edited May 16, 2022 by Sandhurst Red

[Davefevs]

1 minute ago, Major Isewater said:

It gets hot? 

Where do you live then?

[Sheltons Army]

4 minutes ago, Sandhurst Red said:

Players do come and go, however do remember that they are no different than you or I and have feelings etc.

Callum was amazing when he met my son, giving him so much time and encouraging him to pursue a dream of playing football.

Last week was mental health week, and many don't know about some of the injuries that Callum has faced as he is quite a private person.

Many may say he should/could have delivered more, but I will say this - from what I saw, he gave his all and both he, and his family cared deeply about this club. He also did a lot in the community that was unnoticed and unreported, and represented Bristol City as a professional at all times. 

Good luck Callum and I for one hope you go on to achieve more in your career.

 

[AppyDAZE]

10 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

It gets hot? 

And rains a lot.

[Davefevs]

A few comments on Soady above.  My view is that he burst on the scene in a pre-season friendly a few seasons back, then had a bad injury. When I saw him earlier this season he looked way off, but then had a loan at Paulton and came back a better player.

Having said that, he’s 20 (21 in Sept) and one of those players capable of the sublime and the ridiculous all within 5 minutes of each other.  I think normally he’d get another year, but we appear to be more ruthless, and he’s missed out.

Hope he gets fixed up somewhere, same for all of the players released.

[Port Said Red]

5 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

A few comments on Soady above.  My view is that he burst on the scene in a pre-season friendly a few seasons back, then had a bad injury. When I saw him earlier this season he looked way off, but then had a loan at Paulton and came back a better player.

Having said that, he’s 20 (21 in Sept) and one of those players capable of the sublime and the ridiculous all within 5 minutes of each other.  I think normally he’d get another year, but we appear to be more ruthless, and he’s missed out.

Hope he gets fixed up somewhere, same for all of the players released.

I didn't see him in the earlier part of his career, having on really started watching the U23 streams in the last year or so and I must say I often wondered what all the fuss was about with him. I think Pearson said before that if you are not in and around the first team by 20, you probably aren't going to be. There are some notable exceptions to that rule, but we seem to have so many players in the pipeline at the moment, unless he moves up he is just blocking the way.
It doesn't seem that there have been many takers for him on loan either other than Paulton Rovers.

[David Brent]

I won’t give myself a heart attack with anger at Callum, like several appear to.

He’ll get a decent move. Right decision for us and him. 

[RedorDead BCFC]

39 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

It gets hot? 

Apart from Glastonbury weekend and Wimbledon then it just pisses down. 

[Fordy62]

12 minutes ago, David Brent said:

I won’t give myself a heart attack with anger at Callum, like several appear to.

He’ll get a decent move. Right decision for us and him. 

I’ll gladly take heart attack duties from you. Thank god we don’t have to have any more COD false dawns. 

[MC RISK77]

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

What memories?  I don’t have any good ones of CoD. He did very little despite his undoubted skills and decent pace. Never skinned a full back or took on defenders. He was largely a waste of space.

My comment was meant as irony…he was total pony

[Swede]

Well I'm really sorry he's been released. A very talented international player.

I seem to recall the Leeds speculation which led to an improved contract at the time.

He's played in different positions and is pretty settled here.

Unless we are looking to retain him on post covid reduced terms That might come back to bite us.

[Swede]

Just now, MC RISK77 said:

My comment was meant as irony…he was total pony

Every one is entitled to their opinion but to call him total pony? You weren't at Carrow Road then when he scored that sublime goal dribbling past several opponents.

[SBB]

4 minutes ago, Swede said:

Well I'm really sorry he's been released. A very talented international player.

I seem to recall the Leeds speculation which led to an improved contract at the time.

He's played in different positions and is pretty settled here.

Unless we are looking to retain him on post covid reduced terms That might come back to bite us.

And just as he’s about to take a bite, he’ll turn and dribble back towards his own goal. 

[Simon bristol]

Just now, Swede said:

Every one is entitled to their opinion but to call him total pony? You weren't at Carrow Road then when he scored that sublime goal dribbling past several opponents.

Good luck to cod, but thats very little end product in 6 years, he arguably didnt have the impact to have his contract renewed last time.

[David Brent]

42 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

I’ll gladly take heart attack duties from you. Thank god we don’t have to have any more COD false dawns. 

If it makes you feel any better 

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

3 hours ago, Northern Red said:

Was just about to mention Soady, bit surprised by that one although it's possible that there are younger players in the pathway who they think are a better bet than him.

I expect that's right. I remember remarking to one of City coaches in Riga during Gary Johnson's time that I was surprised we were releasing Jennison Myrie-Williams,but was told they thought they had better coming through. 

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

A few comments on Soady above.  My view is that he burst on the scene in a pre-season friendly a few seasons back, then had a bad injury. When I saw him earlier this season he looked way off, but then had a loan at Paulton and came back a better player.

Having said that, he’s 20 (21 in Sept) and one of those players capable of the sublime and the ridiculous all within 5 minutes of each other.  I think normally he’d get another year, but we appear to be more ruthless, and he’s missed out.

Hope he gets fixed up somewhere, same for all of the players released.

I hope so too Dave for the lads sake but I expect he may drift into local non-league football. City may not always gets its recruitment right but I can't think of (m)any young players we've released that have gone on to have a glittering career elsewhere. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

3 hours ago, BCFCGav said:

So as expected re ongoing talks with King, Klose and Cundy. Hope they aren't trying to strongarm us into paying ott wages. 

Buse is a bit of an odd one, would've expected a new deal to be pretty routine to sort there.

Is there any chance that we are awaiting some kind of green light from the EFL on wages, terms deemed acceptable by them?

Gould did say in his interview that while we were looking to keep the same budget as this season, he used the term 'at this point in time'. Right now I'm struggling to square a circle or two.

Simple example. Numbers made up for illustrative purposes.

Keep it tight

If we need a wage bill not exceeding £25m to remain compliant next season and it's £24m now we could only spend another million as it stands strengthening the team plus anything raised in sales etc.

Renewing the 3 maybe difficult and am assuming O'Dowda leaving in that figure.

Battle back to balance

If we need a wage bill of £25m next year as stated and O'Dowda has got one taking it down to say £28m, we need to save £3m or raise that in transfer fees just to return to parity.

Renewal of all 3 is a further £1.2m in total say, why would the EFL permit us to make the issue worse until the relevant saving/profit has been made.

Edited May 16, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous

[One Team]

1 hour ago, Swede said:

Well I'm really sorry he's been released. A very talented international player.

I seem to recall the Leeds speculation which led to an improved contract at the time.

He's played in different positions and is pretty settled here.

Unless we are looking to retain him on post covid reduced terms That might come back to bite us.

It wasn’t just Leeds but Fulham as well, both of which LJ stated as having turned his head (after verbally telling LJ he would sign for us), he rejected three contract offers from us, finally signing a new deal when the Fulham one fell through.

 

[LondonBristolian]

2 hours ago, Sandhurst Red said:

Players do come and go, however do remember that they are no different than you or I and have feelings etc.

Callum was amazing when he met my son, giving him so much time and encouraging him to pursue a dream of playing football.

Last week was mental health week, and many don't know about some of the injuries that Callum has faced as he is quite a private person.

Many may say he should/could have delivered more, but I will say this - from what I saw, he gave his all and both he, and his family cared deeply about this club. He also did a lot in the community that was unnoticed and unreported, and represented Bristol City as a professional at all times. 

Good luck Callum and I for one hope you go on to achieve more in your career.

 

That's nice to hear.

In all honesty, my overriding feeling with Callum O'Dowda is one of frustration - for him as much as us - in that I feel the ability and talent is there but  - whatever the reasons (and I absolutely get we don't know what happened behind the scenes - he never managed to perform to his ability a consistent basis and he will have seen colleagues and teammates like Brownhill move onto to a level I'm sure he hoped he would one day get to himself.

I think releasing him is the right decision and a fresh start might be a good thing for everyone. But I'd be really happy for him if he went on to finally realise his potential elsewhere. 

[Pezo]

33 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

That's nice to hear.

In all honesty, my overriding feeling with Callum O'Dowda is one of frustration - for him as much as us - in that I feel the ability and talent is there but  - whatever the reasons (and I absolutely get we don't know what happened behind the scenes - he never managed to perform to his ability a consistent basis and he will have seen colleagues and teammates like Brownhill move onto to a level I'm sure he hoped he would one day get to himself.

I think releasing him is the right decision and a fresh start might be a good thing for everyone. But I'd be really happy for him if he went on to finally realise his potential elsewhere. 

I could see him rocking up at Burnley with Brownhill if Burnley get relegated.

[Cardy]

4 hours ago, Lordofthebling said:

Bit gutted he didn't kick on into the player he could have been, he has the attributes, just lacks that all important consistency and arguably confidence.

Good luck CoD

Most importantly he lacks bottle.

Plus his return of 10 goals in 176 appearances in 6 seasons is woeful for what should be an attack minded player.

Edited May 16, 2022 by Cardy

[Lorenzos Only Goal]

17 hours ago, Dan Robin said:

Klose signing would be great, especially if rumours about Baker's departure/retirement will be confirmed.  Cundy seem to have impressed too.

About COD...I think that he lost himself a bit, but he was also unlucky to get injured after he hit form. Anyway, I understand the choice of releasing him.

Is it Klose to happening? 

[Dottie]

18 hours ago, Sandhurst Red said:

Players do come and go, however do remember that they are no different than you or I and have feelings etc.

Callum was amazing when he met my son, giving him so much time and encouraging him to pursue a dream of playing football.

Last week was mental health week, and many don't know about some of the injuries that Callum has faced as he is quite a private person.

Many may say he should/could have delivered more, but I will say this - from what I saw, he gave his all and both he, and his family cared deeply about this club. He also did a lot in the community that was unnoticed and unreported, and represented Bristol City as a professional at all times. 

Good luck Callum and I for one hope you go on to achieve more in your career.

 

Totally agree. Callum was in with the away supporters when we played at Reading & is a really nice down to earth  lad. Whatever people’s opinion of him as a footballer they really should think before they post some of the abusive messages that they do. 

[Offside]

COD always came across really well in interviews etc, but as a footballer his career at City was indifferent. He had many attributes (pace, athleticism, skill) but never fulfilled his potential and rarely affected games enough. Definitely the right time for him to move on and best of luck to him.