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Almost 2 weeks on from his shin injury and he's been recommended to see a specialist, though unclear when this will happen.

With a continuing 'anxious wait' before the severity of the injury is known

All seems a bit slow, 

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11 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Almost 2 weeks on from his shin injury and he's been recommended to see a specialist, though unclear when this will happen.

With a continuing 'anxious wait' before the severity of the injury is known

All seems a bit slow, 

You never know, it could partly be a ploy to fend off interest if he’s injured with no return date.

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On 31/05/2022 at 19:36, Rich said:

As well as the financial advantage Bournemouth currently have over us, because they splashed out, well above their weight and reaped the benefits. Big catchment area but, large ageing population of London retirees.

 

On 31/05/2022 at 19:41, archie andrews said:

apart from the seafront/pier area the rest of it is a shithole going the way of blackpool .........

 

If you think that, I suggest you don't know Bournemouth very well.  Christchurch and the New Forest coast are the Cosata Geriatrica. Bournemouth itself has a lower-than-average wage profile and some of the best paid jobs in the south-west outside Bristol.

If you avoid the horrors of Bournemouth pier beach and Boscombe, there are 21 miles of sand, with some lovely beaches at Hengistbury Head, Southbourne, Durley Chine and Sandbanks etc. 

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16 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Almost 2 weeks on from his shin injury and he's been recommended to see a specialist, though unclear when this will happen.

With a continuing 'anxious wait' before the severity of the injury is known

All seems a bit slow, 

This is familiar territory for us. It usually goes something like this:

°It's a minor injury, back in 2 weeks.

°Actually he now needs a month's rest.

°"He's back on the grass".

°Bit of a setback, back in 2 more weeks.

°Needs to see a specialist.

°Specialist recommends more rest.

°Month later no progress so sees specialist again.

°Specialist recommends surgery.

°Finally returns in February, after several more back on the grass/bit of a setback stages.

It's what we do.?

 

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1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

I wondered about this when he was sent home by Ghana - had to be something substantial. Disappointing as we're half the side without him. 

He's very good but not sure he's 5.5 players worth. Hopefully it's something that can be relatively easy to resolve but if not it's an opportunity for someone else to step up. 

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5 minutes ago, chinapig said:

This is familiar territory for us. It usually goes something like this:

°It's a minor injury, back in 2 weeks.

°Actually he now needs a month's rest.

°"He's back on the grass".

°Bit of a setback, back in 2 more weeks.

°Needs to see a specialist.

°Specialist recommends more rest.

°Month later no progress so sees specialist again.

°Specialist recommends surgery.

°Finally returns in February, after several more back on the grass/bit of a setback stages.

It's what we do.?

 

Although in this case club have said nothing ?

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8 minutes ago, chinapig said:

This is familiar territory for us. It usually goes something like this:

°It's a minor injury, back in 2 weeks.

°Actually he now needs a month's rest.

°"He's back on the grass".

°Bit of a setback, back in 2 more weeks.

°Needs to see a specialist.

°Specialist recommends more rest.

°Month later no progress so sees specialist again.

°Specialist recommends surgery.

°Finally returns in February, after several more back on the grass/bit of a setback stages.

It's what we do.?

 

Shins aren't one of Dave Rennie's strong points,  it would seem. 

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1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

 

If you think that, I suggest you don't know Bournemouth very well.  Christchurch and the New Forest coast are the Cosata Geriatrica. Bournemouth itself has a lower-than-average wage profile and some of the best paid jobs in the south-west outside Bristol.

If you avoid the horrors of Bournemouth pier beach and Boscombe, there are 21 miles of sand, with some lovely beaches at Hengistbury Head, Southbourne, Durley Chine and Sandbanks etc. 

I do apologise for not being as accurate as you'd like, I was of course using Bournemouth as a general term for the whole area, how foolish of me. I see it's average age is 44, while in Bristol it is 32.4, depending on where you research the figures, the area as a whole having one of the highest average ages in the country. In recent years it's been overtaken by it's neighbour Portsmouth as the city with most retirement properties, but still ranks second in the amount of housing for retirees. I was using my memory of historical information about the area as a whole, where traditionally people from London retired to. I bow to your greater knowledge and will try harder in the future.

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13 minutes ago, Rich said:

I do apologise for not being as accurate as you'd like, I was of course using Bournemouth as a general term for the whole area, how foolish of me. I see it's average age is 44, while in Bristol it is 32.4, depending on where you research the figures, the area as a whole having one of the highest average ages in the country. In recent years it's been overtaken by it's neighbour Portsmouth as the city with most retirement properties, but still ranks second in the amount of housing for retirees. I was using my memory of historical information about the area as a whole, where traditionally people from London retired to. I bow to your greater knowledge and will try harder in the future.

I think it’s a good town - good nightlife, decent shopping and lots of really nice areas closer towards the University campus and Sandbanks.

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8 minutes ago, Rich said:

I do apologise for not being as accurate as you'd like, I was of course using Bournemouth as a general term for the whole area, how foolish of me. I see it's average age is 44, while in Bristol it is 32.4, depending on where you research the figures, the area as a whole having one of the highest average ages in the country. In recent years it's been overtaken by it's neighbour Portsmouth as the city with most retirement properties, but still ranks second in the amount of housing for retirees. I was using my memory of historical information about the area as a whole, where traditionally people from London retired to. I bow to your greater knowledge and will try harder in the future.

 Bournemouth itself is only part of the wider East Dorset Conurbation, which includes Poole, Christchurch and other communities. As I pointed out, Bournemouth itself is a big student town, with many employers and more nightclubs than anywhere else in the south of England outside London.

I had always thought of Bournemouth as a "retirement community" but then I lived and worked there and realised that stereotype is completely wrong.

If you want to visit God's waiting room by the sea, I suggest you go to New Milton, where the high street is a riot of mobility scooter vendors, hearing aid shops and undertakers. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

If you want to visit God's waiting room by the sea, I suggest you go to New Milton, where the high street is a riot of mobility scooter vendors, hearing aid shops and undertakers. 

 

How expensive is property there RR

(Asking for a friend)

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, CyderInACan said:

I think it's a different scenario to that with Webster TBH. He's young, he's just established himself and seems to be grounded & humble with a good family around him. I'd hope that he'd listen to advice but ultimately make a decision that was right for his career, not just a move to a "big team" now when that is not necessarily the best move in terms of his potential trajectory. 

 

Also Webster was going straight into Brighton's side as 1st choice.  Not sure that would be the case with Semenyo.

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13 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 Bournemouth itself is only part of the wider East Dorset Conurbation, which includes Poole, Christchurch and other communities. As I pointed out, Bournemouth itself is a big student town, with many employers and more nightclubs than anywhere else in the south of England outside London.

I had always thought of Bournemouth as a "retirement community" but then I lived and worked there and realised that stereotype is completely wrong.

If you want to visit God's waiting room by the sea, I suggest you go to New Milton, where the high street is a riot of mobility scooter vendors, hearing aid shops and undertakers. 

 

New Milton sounds a ball. The area is generally known as Bournemouth, as in the conurbation, especially to people from outside the area. Do they have political spats between the different authorities like here?

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10 minutes ago, Rich said:

New Milton sounds a ball. The area is generally known as Bournemouth, as in the conurbation, especially to people from outside the area. Do they have political spats between the different authorities like here?

That was what I find when I used to go to the Bournemouth area with work, it's such a sprawl. The list of places that are within the area of Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole is almost as big as those that make up London. Working out where one starts and another finishes is equally difficult too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_areas_in_Bournemouth,_Christchurch_and_Poole

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3 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Almost 2 weeks on from his shin injury and he's been recommended to see a specialist, though unclear when this will happen.

With a continuing 'anxious wait' before the severity of the injury is known

All seems a bit slow, 

May have been waiting to see if the injury settled. I had a long running shin issue which, as a last resort, eventually required minor surgery. Same leg I had a complete ACL reconstruction. It now looks like a grandmother’s patch work blanket. 

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1 hour ago, Rich said:

New Milton sounds a ball. The area is generally known as Bournemouth, as in the conurbation, especially to people from outside the area. Do they have political spats between the different authorities like here?

It’s not really - it’s a good 25 minute drive. 

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1 hour ago, Rich said:

New Milton sounds a ball. The area is generally known as Bournemouth, as in the conurbation, especially to people from outside the area. Do they have political spats between the different authorities like here?

I’d doubt that last bit, it is a Tory one party state.

All 8 MPs in Dorset & 14/16 in Hampshire are Conservative, the 2 Labour being in Southampton & Portsmouth.

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4 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

 

If you think that, I suggest you don't know Bournemouth very well.  Christchurch and the New Forest coast are the Cosata Geriatrica. Bournemouth itself has a lower-than-average wage profile and some of the best paid jobs in the south-west outside Bristol.

If you avoid the horrors of Bournemouth pier beach and Boscombe, there are 21 miles of sand, with some lovely beaches at Hengistbury Head, Southbourne, Durley Chine and Sandbanks etc

..........and Avon Beach, Mudeford.

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10 minutes ago, slartibartfast said:

Bournemouth/Xchurch used to be died in the wool Liberal .

Not sure that’s true.

Bournemouth has never had an MP that wasn’t Tory & Christchurch only had one that wasn’t for one term.

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2 hours ago, Rich said:

New Milton sounds a ball. The area is generally known as Bournemouth, as in the conurbation, especially to people from outside the area. Do they have political spats between the different authorities like here?

 

The whole concept of a unitary authority for Bournemouth-Poole-Christchurch is very divisive.

Bournemouth is generally quite affluent (apart from the Scouse ghetto in Boscombe/Pokesdown) whereas bits of Poole are fairly grotty and rough, and as mentioned Christchurch is the start of the Costa Geriatrica and quite genteel - apart from the vast Somerford estate.

Basically, all three constituent parts hate the other two! 

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5 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

 

If you think that, I suggest you don't know Bournemouth very well.  Christchurch and the New Forest coast are the Cosata Geriatrica. Bournemouth itself has a lower-than-average wage profile and some of the best paid jobs in the south-west outside Bristol.

If you avoid the horrors of Bournemouth pier beach and Boscombe, there are 21 miles of sand, with some lovely beaches at Hengistbury Head, Southbourne, Durley Chine and Sandbanks etc. 

I was a fisheries scientist in the area for ten years and the Dorset countryside is worthy of the Hardy novels that describe it

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2 minutes ago, Malvern Red said:

I was a fisheries scientist in the area for ten years and the Dorset countryside is worthy of the Hardy novels that describe it

 

I like it down there, it has a lot going for it. It pains me the bile that AFC Bournemouth fans attract on Otib, although it is perfectly true to say the club's Russian owners bought their way to success and somehow evaded the EFL rulebook on FFP.  That isn't the fault of the fans however.  

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I thought I'd check in on my favorite 'where to live in Bournemouth thread and see what the latest is. Coincidently (and obviously I don't want to derail the thread here), but i heard there is a possibility Semenyo might be off, and Bournemouth might be one of the clubs interested. 

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29 minutes ago, BCFC Richard said:

I thought I'd check in on my favorite 'where to live in Bournemouth thread and see what the latest is. Coincidently (and obviously I don't want to derail the thread here), but i heard there is a possibility Semenyo might be off, and Bournemouth might be one of the clubs interested. 

 

Keep up!  It's about the merits of Budleigh Salterton now.

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13 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

The whole concept of a unitary authority for Bournemouth-Poole-Christchurch is very divisive.

Bournemouth is generally quite affluent (apart from the Scouse ghetto in Boscombe/Pokesdown) whereas bits of Poole are fairly grotty and rough, and as mentioned Christchurch is the start of the Costa Geriatrica and quite genteel - apart from the vast Somerford estate.

Basically, all three constituent parts hate the other two! 

Ah, Somerford........Beirut with ice cream !

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7 hours ago, slartibartfast said:

Ah, Somerford........Beirut with ice cream !

I worked on the Somerford Estate for a couple of months and in one house the tenant was running a porn DVD business - he had thousands of them and a full-on mail order operation and was quite open about it. I read a couple of years later that he`d been shot in some sort of `turf war`.

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3 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

I worked on the Somerford Estate for a couple of months and in one house the tenant was running a porn DVD business - he had thousands of them and a full-on mail order operation and was quite open about it. I read a couple of years later that he`d been shot in some sort of `turf war`.

I just came onto the Semenyo thread and read the last post. Now I'm really intrigued to go back and find our how we got here from a discussion about Antoine Semenyo! 

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2 hours ago, LondonBristolian said:

I just came onto the Semenyo thread and read the last post. Now I'm really intrigued to go back and find our how we got here from a discussion about Antoine Semenyo! 

It's fine, I've been following it and I don't have a clue how it's gone there. Classic OTIB though - that's what makes it great ?

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4 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

I worked on the Somerford Estate for a couple of months and in one house the tenant was running a porn DVD business - he had thousands of them and a full-on mail order operation and was quite open about it. I read a couple of years later that he`d been shot in some sort of `turf war`.

Yes, always use the ring road to navigate round there. The flats look like a soviet enclave crossed with Belfast's Divis !

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A strange one (for me) Bournemouth.

Many years ago, I had a very good friend, who lived in Christchurch (Bournemouth), where we spent some fantastic weekends in lovely pubs and wine bars, and met some charming young ladies; we even went windsurfing one Spring morning in Poole Harbour (Bournemouth).

Some years later, when my friend had moved away, I had to spend a few nights in Bournemouth on business and asked my secretary to book me a decent (3/4 star) hotel, preferably quite close to the beach so I could venture out in the evening for dinner and to enjoy some of the wonderful nightlife I remembered.

What a shock.

I appreciate it was out of season, but the place was just full of beggars, drunks and druggies - I know, I should have felt at home.

There is a huge difference between the three.

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Nice negative start to pre-season and preparations for the season ahead…..

not only are we now without our attacking catalyst, but due to that, we can’t move on the very expensive wells from the point of managing the clubs finances as we need cover.

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6 minutes ago, BLRed said:

Nice negative start to pre-season and preparations for the season ahead…..

not only are we now without our attacking catalyst, but due to that, we can’t move on the very expensive wells from the point of managing the clubs finances as we need cover.

Wells was never going anywhere.

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1 minute ago, RUSSEL85 said:

Well, better chance he won’t be sold and should only miss 3 games - positive spin 

Except when he gets over the injury he will have to do a pre-season on his own. So you can add a month or so to the 12 weeks.

Assuming we have got our estimate of his return right for once. How many times have we been told a player would be back in x weeks only for it to drag on? Sadly it's not an exact science. Fingers crossed.

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1 hour ago, Lydered said:

 

1 hour ago, Dolman_Stand said:

That's a blow was hoping he would hit the ground running this season

Chance for Wells to show he wants it. Annoying for us and Antoine himself, but this is where Wells needs to show that he can still kick on and prove his worth.

Every cloud...

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4 minutes ago, Taz said:

 

Chance for Wells to show he wants it. Annoying for us and Antoine himself, but this is where Wells needs to show that he can still kick on and prove his worth.

Every cloud...

Wishful thinking I'm afraid, unless you know how Wells can add pace and power to his game between now and July 30.

This is shit news. And no mistake. 

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52 minutes ago, RUSSEL85 said:

Well, better chance he won’t be sold and should only miss 3 games - positive spin 

I’m a bit uncertain what you mean by this. If Semenyo doesn’t start training until the beginning of September, he’s unlikely to be fully match fit until the end of September. As the season starts on 30 July that’s a lot more than 3 games. 

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Just shows how lacking we are in squad depth when it comes to this sort of situation. 
interested to see what Sykes can offer but maybe suggests we need one more wide forward to come in, especially with Benarous out until Christmas 

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14 minutes ago, BLRed said:

Just shows how lacking we are in squad depth when it comes to this sort of situation. 
interested to see what Sykes can offer but maybe suggests we need one more wide forward to come in, especially with Benarous out until Christmas 

Yea whis going to replace him?

We could go 2 up top with wienman and Martin

Or could play Wells

Or Conway

Or bell

Or Henry

I mean we really are lacking for options.........

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1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Wishful thinking I'm afraid, unless you know how Wells can add pace and power to his game between now and July 30.

This is shit news. And no mistake. 

Wells has pace and makes up for lack of power with his footballing intelligence.

At least Largish Nige has time to make new game plans with the absence of AS. 
 

This could be a blessing in disguise if we can get Wells firing on all cylinders. 

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8 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

Yea whis going to replace him?

We could go 2 up top with wienman and Martin

Or could play Wells

Or Conway

Or bell

Or Henry

I mean we really are lacking for options.........

I don’t see either of those as replacements for semenyo IMO. Neither offer the same attributes or style of play. Semenyo was one of the highest pressers in the league last season which allowed us to turn over and create those counters where he had the pace, power, strength and ability to score/assist. None of the aforementioned players give us that so we would have to change style of play or simply won’t be as fruitful in attack compared to last season. 

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31 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Wells has pace and makes up for lack of power with his footballing intelligence.

At least Largish Nige has time to make new game plans with the absence of AS. 
 

This could be a blessing in disguise if we can get Wells firing on all cylinders. 

Not remotely adequate as a replacement for Semenyo. Imho.

Wells has nothing like the pace and power of Semenyo and those are the 2 qualities that make us twice the side without him. Opposition sides are scared stiff of Semenyo, not something you can say of Wells. Imho. 

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57 minutes ago, BLRed said:

I don’t see either of those as replacements for semenyo IMO. Neither offer the same attributes or style of play. Semenyo was one of the highest pressers in the league last season which allowed us to turn over and create those counters where he had the pace, power, strength and ability to score/assist. None of the aforementioned players give us that so we would have to change style of play or simply won’t be as fruitful in attack compared to last season. 

We have to change style depending on opponent, for example against Stoke we wouldnt be putting crosses into the box due to there big defenders

Cardiff we would use pace to expose the lack of speed at the back so on and so forth

We didn't rely on him last season and we won't this season, we are more about tram work then the individual now, 

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16 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

We have to change style depending on opponent, for example against Stoke we wouldnt be putting crosses into the box due to there big defenders

Cardiff we would use pace to expose the lack of speed at the back so on and so forth

We didn't rely on him last season and we won't this season, we are more about tram work then the individual now, 

I largely agree with you but with Semenyo specifically, he has come on so much that what he brings dictates the positive way we play. Without that, my concern is that we have no one else in the team that can create that positive attacking nature that drives the team.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think we should change the way we play to suit the opposition. We need to play our way, be comfortable doing that and have players to suit the system. Constant change leads to inconsistency.

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3 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Wishful thinking I'm afraid, unless you know how Wells can add pace and power to his game between now and July 30.

This is shit news. And no mistake. 

He doesn’t have to do that to be successful.

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1 hour ago, KegCity said:

He doesn’t have to do that to be successful.

No threat in behind. Wasteful in possession. Good finisher. 

Martin, Wells and Weimann have been here together long enough for someone to make them work as a combination. No-one has.

It's Semenyo that makes the forward line, the whole team, tick.

We're back to playing percentage football aimed at Chris Martin. 

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