The Semenyo Thread - Now a Bournemouth Player. Deal Confirmed

[WRERE]

Alan Nixon/the Sun linking Palace with Semenyo. Apparently we want 12m

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/19504380/crystal-palace-transfer-antoine-semenyo-bristol-city/

[Kodjias Wrist]

A typical Palace signing to be fair. Explosive, athletic, flair etc. Would hope if he went we could command about 15m. 

[robin_unreliant]

Palace was top of my list of clubs where I thought he might end up. 

I'm not as concerned about the fee,  more what we do with it. We have got big fees before and wasted the money. Will NP get any of it and will be find a decent replacement? 

Edited August 14, 2022 by robin_unreliant

[GrahamC]

Makes a lot of sense, especially as they have offloaded Benteke.

[steviestevieneville]

Not sure Nixon gets much right tbh. If it is then do it now so we got time to reinvest . One thing for sure is we miss him badly in the side. Going to be a long season . 

[Loosey Boy]

8 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said:

Palace was top of my list of clubs where I thought he might end up. 

I'm not as concerned about the fee,  more what we do with it. We have got big fees before and wasted the money. Will NP get any of it and will be find a decent replacement? 

You’d expect Nige to get a bit of the money (2-3m?) and that we’d have someone lined-up if he did go

[Simon79]

£12m sounds cheap to me for a young international striker who is in contract for a reasonable amount of time. Needs to be closer to £18m - £20m I would think. COYR 

[chinapig]

34 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Not sure Nixon gets much right tbh. If it is then do it now so we got time to reinvest . One thing for sure is we miss him badly in the side. Going to be a long season . 

Nixon thought Chris Kirchner was the real deal during the Derby saga, which tells us something about his credibility.

[Davefevs]

No idea whether this has legs.

If he was to go for £12m then it’s not about how much of it Nige can spend, it doesn’t work like that really.

If our playing budget was £25m, wages, amortisation, etc to stay inside FFP and we project to spend £25m, then receiving £12m (all profit) would give us £12m free to spend plus a small amount of Antoine’s wages freed up.

Theoretically, we could buy four £5m players on 4 year deals on £20k p.w and still have £2m left over this year.  We would have to look at the impact on next seasons budgets and beyond though!

I fully expect the situation to be that Nige will need to see some of the £12m cover a bit of FFP and also not to use it all this windows, ie keep a bit up his sleeve. 

[robin for life]

12m would be about right with a sell on fee as well. Don't forget he is only proven for one season, and has just been injured, plus only has a year and a bit left on a deal. Next summer Semenyo will be in his final year and we would get nowhere near 12m. Clubs know that, so whilst he could well be a 15-20m player, we don't have the luxury of him being tied down for 3 or 4 years, to get that sort of money. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

Crystal Palace are likely candidates I'd think, Brentford too although they seem to have done their business fairly early...wouldn't also bid for Semenyo after Lewis-Potter?

£12m feels a bit low but remember we might have a bit of pressure to sell- dunno if we can add anyone at all atm as it stands and we might fail in March too.

One other bit, before signing players with the fresh income, we could use it to look to renew or extend terms with those we want to keep, agree settlements with those we don't and try to frontload some of the decisions- perhaps impair a few, letting them go on frees thereby saving wages earlier.

Edited August 14, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous

[Andy082005]

1 hour ago, Simon79 said:

£12m sounds cheap to me for a young international striker who is in contract for a reasonable amount of time. Needs to be closer to £18m - £20m I would think. COYR 

Problem is he has an injury and the club don’t know how bad it is. He will be back playing soon but he may need an operation. If that’s the case, you can pretty much call this season a right off 

Go for £15m and look to reinvest some funds I say 

[Loosey Boy]

2 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

Problem is he has an injury and the club don’t know how bad it is. He will be back playing soon but he may need an operation. If that’s the case, you can pretty much call this season a right off 

Go for £15m and look to reinvest some funds I say 

Didn’t Nige suggest that he was recovering well/ahead of time a few weeks ago?  Antoine himself indicated similar at the open training session - I’d therefore be surprised if an op was needed.

I can see this one progressing over the next two weeks - just hope City have replacement lined up ‘cos we will need to replace him if he goes…

[Davefevs]

9 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

Problem is he has an injury and the club don’t know how bad it is. He will be back playing soon but he may need an operation. If that’s the case, you can pretty much call this season a right off 

Go for £15m and look to reinvest some funds I say 

Where is the indication the club don’t know how bad it is?  And if it needs an operation, why not get that operation done?

[cidercity1987]

Seems low for Semenyo and much less than Potter for a player this bias City fan rates much higher than the latter

[AshtonRobin21]

I think this one has legs. 

Palace are rumoured to have been monitoring Semenyo for some time. It seems realistic that they would now make their move. 

I don't want to see it happen, but accept that him leaving for a prem club is too good to turn down. 

Palace would be the perfect move for him (and potentially us in regards to a sell on %). 

Any money received needs to be reinvested (where possible) to bulk up this squad. We are too thin on numbers in key areas. 

A Semenyo replacement, A centre midfielder and a centre back are priorities. 

[class not gas]

29 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

I think this one has legs. 

Palace are rumoured to have been monitoring Semenyo for some time. It seems realistic that they would now make their move. 

I don't want to see it happen, but accept that him leaving for a prem club is too good to turn down. 

Palace would be the perfect move for him (and potentially us in regards to a sell on %). 

Any money received needs to be reinvested (where possible) to bulk up this squad. We are too thin on numbers in key areas. 

A Semenyo replacement, A centre midfielder and a centre back are priorities. 

Maybe we could get him back on loan for the season?

[Loosey Boy]

2 minutes ago, class not gas said:

Maybe we could get him back on loan for the season?

I would imagine that they would be signing him for him to be included in their 1st team squad this season 

Edited August 14, 2022 by Loosey Boy

[class not gas]

1 minute ago, Loosey Boy said:

I would imagine that they would be signing him for him to be in included their 1st team squad this season 

Could well be, but worth a try, they have a lot of quality in his position.

[Henry]

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

No idea whether this has legs.

If he was to go for £12m then it’s not about how much of it Nige can spend, it doesn’t work like that really.

If our playing budget was £25m, wages, amortisation, etc to stay inside FFP and we project to spend £25m, then receiving £12m (all profit) would give us £12m free to spend plus a small amount of Antoine’s wages freed up.

Theoretically, we could buy four £5m players on 4 year deals on £20k p.w and still have £2m left over this year.  We would have to look at the impact on next seasons budgets and beyond though!

I fully expect the situation to be that Nige will need to see some of the £12m cover a bit of FFP and also not to use it all this windows, ie keep a bit up his sleeve. 

Course it is and you just wrote a post explaining it.

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

No idea whether this has legs.

If he was to go for £12m then it’s not about how much of it Nige can spend, it doesn’t work like that really.

If our playing budget was £25m, wages, amortisation, etc to stay inside FFP and we project to spend £25m, then receiving £12m (all profit) would give us £12m free to spend plus a small amount of Antoine’s wages freed up.

Theoretically, we could buy four £5m players on 4 year deals on £20k p.w and still have £2m left over this year.  We would have to look at the impact on next seasons budgets and beyond though!

I fully expect the situation to be that Nige will need to see some of the £12m cover a bit of FFP and also not to use it all this windows, ie keep a bit up his sleeve. 

Course it is and you just wrote a post explaining it.

[Davefevs]

37 minutes ago, Henry said:

Course it is and you just wrote a post explaining it.

Course it is and you just wrote a post explaining it.

Sorry, I meant it doesn’t work that he’ll get £2/3m of it as a transfer fee.

[AshtonRobin21]

FWIW, I think Nige would be given a fair chunk to spend, and I fully believe we have targets lined up. 

We need to invest where possible, and perhaps this is what Nige has been anticipating.

Keeping both Scott and Semenyo would be fantastic, but if asked at the start of the transfer window, I would have expected at least one to depart. If we can retain Scott, then I'm happy. 

This would be the first opportunity that Nige has had decent funds available to improve the squad, so I would be interested to see what moves we would make. 

[tin]

To sell for £12m would amount to giving him away on the cheap IMO. He’s an integral first-team player, just look at how pedestrian we are without his pace and power. What Palace paid for Eze should be the minimum we’re after. 

[cidered abroad]

10 minutes ago, tin said:

To sell for £12m would amount to giving him away on the cheap IMO. He’s an integral first-team player, just look at how pedestrian we are without his pace and power. What Palace paid for Eze should be the minimum we’re after. 

I agree. Any purchase of a potential lead goal scorer by any Prem club should be a minimum of 30% of their TV income. Clogging defenders are one thing but those who turn games on their own are invaluable.

[sh1t_ref_again]

Would be very disappointed if left for only 12m, with 2 years left on his contract, we would be better keeping him and hope he proves to be even more of a force this year, then start to consider panic offers from prem teams at xmas

[Edgy Red]

Sadly, i'm starting to think we may have to trade before the window closes and Semenyo and Scott are the only 2 players we have that will command a decent fee.

If that allows Nige to bring in a few quality replacements (loan or permanent) and also gives us some space with FFP then it's a win win.

I really like Antoine and he makes such a difference to us, but he does seem to pick up injuries regularly which is a worry.

[ScottishRed]

As always, a large part of this will be the player himself.

If his head has been turned by what Palace have told his agent they are prepared to pay him, he will be off.

[Son of Fred]

5 hours ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

I think this one has legs. 

Palace are rumoured to have been monitoring Semenyo for some time. It seems realistic that they would now make their move. 

I don't want to see it happen, but accept that him leaving for a prem club is too good to turn down. 

Palace would be the perfect move for him (and potentially us in regards to a sell on %). 

Any money received needs to be reinvested (where possible) to bulk up this squad. We are too thin on numbers in key areas. 

A Semenyo replacement, A centre midfielder and a centre back are priorities. 

Could be a blessing in the disguise.

[AshtonRobin21]

19 minutes ago, Son of Fred said:

Could be a blessing in the disguise.

I certainly don't want him to leave. 

But am realistic enough to see that he probably won't be here beyond next year anyway. 

If we were to recoup a decent fee for him, then it could lead to 2-3 key positions being strengthened.

Something we won't be able to do without a sale. 

Our front line is still scoring goals, our defence needs sorting out. This could allow us to do that. 

[Leveller]

1 hour ago, ScottishRed said:

As always, a large part of this will be the player himself.

If his head has been turned by what Palace have told his agent they are prepared to pay him, he will be off.

And the chance to play at the highest level. Back in London. All counts.

[Sheltons Army]

What does Ian Gays ‘contact’ say about this ?

 

[LondonBristolian]

I’d personally not want us to sell for less than £15m plus a sell-on fee. I guess it depends how we reinvest it but - Weimann aside - I think he would be the toughest player in the squad to adequately replace.

[sglosbcfc]

12m is nowhere near enough and some posters are claiming we'd then be able to sign a quality striker to replace him, plus a midfielder and a defender. I wouldn't consider less than £15m as it would take big money to get a replacement in.

[mozo]

We've already heard from the club that we wouldn't stop a move to the Prem so Palace could make this happen if they want. There's no way Antoine would stay with an opportunity like that. 

[Northern Red]

Can only assume nobody actually read the article.

That's not to say that nothing will come of it, but there's a lot of conjecture in there without any concrete details.

[Major Isewater]

3 minutes ago, mozo said:

We've already heard from the club that we wouldn't stop a move to the Prem so Palace could make this happen if they want. There's no way Antoine would stay with an opportunity like that. 

There’s also a difference between not stopping a move to the Prem and having your pants pulled down. Antoine is a valuable asset to the club and won’t be sold for peanuts. 

[JoeAman08]

Part of me thinks 12m is too low. Then again another part of me thinks this is his last season here probably. Also he is a bit injury prone isn’t he. I think those are small factors which take his price down a bit. I’d be hoping for 15m really but is 12m now better than 8m next? Genuinely don’t know. 
 

How does it work for ffp? Does that 12m get smacked into accounts this season? Or does is split up? Does is matter if Palace give us 12m straight away or if they pay us a set amount for a few years? 

[cidered abroad]

My opinion only. No info from anywhere else.

If we have to sell one player to recruit a couple or three others this is my preference at this moment in time. I'm also assuming that if the playing staff remains as it is now, we are not going to incur FFP penalties.

Semenyo or Scott to go?

Semenyo creates havoc in defences with his pace and strength with ten goals last season and the assists for Weimann and Martin. Only drawback is that he appears to be a bit injury prone - not a one or two match item but more like 2 to 4 months. Also with two years left on contract, he is now at maximum sale value.

Scott for his age is very good. At present my guess his transfer value may be similar or lower than Semenyo. His value to the team, IMO, at this moment is less than Semenyo.

To replace Semenyo and Martin, who I see as on a sharp downward trend at this level, will cost us plenty.

To replace Scott now will cost less than the strikers. However, keep him another year or two and his transfer value could be so great that it is difficult for us imagine how many noughts will come after £5 or £10.

Or look at more simply. Which will help us more to stay up this season? Go down to League One and we'll get peanuts for either/both!

So sell Scott now and Semenyo next summer. IMO, best way to safeguard our place in Championship and to grow as a club that wants promotion. Pearson's three years to do it is going to be at least four years because we were so broken when he arrived.

 

 

Edited August 15, 2022 by cidered abroad

[Taz]

People saying he's injury prone, but since he's come into the first team as a regular, one of the first names on the teamsheet type of player, his style of play is going cause a few injuries.

Wouldn't say he was injury prone.

[petehinton]

Have a horrible feeling this is going to happen. We need to hope for a bidding war

[cheddarwedlocker]

Im s**tting it not going to lie. 

If we get 15, how much becomes available? 

Need at least 5 of that to buy a decent striker, i fear that lansdown will just put that in his back pocket.

[AshtonRobin21]

37 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Have a horrible feeling this is going to happen. We need to hope for a bidding war

I believe we will get interest from a few clubs that could cause the fee to rise. 

Palace, Brentford and Southampton all seem to be realistic destinations, and have a need for a player like Semenyo. 

At palace it's clear that they lack options up top following the sale of Benteke. 

Semenyo would suit Brentford's style of play perfectly, and would challenge Mbeumo and cover Toney. 

Southampton lack quality up front. Che Adams has been linked to Prem clubs this summer, whereas Adam Armstrong hasn't hit the heights he once did at Blackburn.

I reckon the fee could end up being close to £14m + add on's eventually. 

[mozo]

9 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

I believe we will get interest from a few clubs that could cause the fee to rise. 

Palace, Brentford and Southampton all seem to be realistic destinations, and have a need for a player like Semenyo. 

At palace it's clear that they lack options up top following the sale of Benteke. 

Semenyo would suit Brentford's style of play perfectly, and would challenge Mbeumo and cover Toney. 

Southampton lack quality up front. Che Adams has been linked to Prem clubs this summer, whereas Adam Armstrong hasn't hit the heights he once did at Blackburn.

I reckon the fee could end up being close to £14m + add on's eventually. 

I think Adam Armstrong has done okay. He hasn't nailed a starting place but he's contributed a few times, most recently on the weekend where he created the first goal in their comeback v Leeds. He gives them a useful option and a few Prem clubs might be happy to have Semenyo as an option in the squad as you say, even at £10m +.

If he did go it would be interesting to see which lower league striker we could bring in. I always thought it was a shame we didn't sign Yates when we were linked to him.

Edited August 15, 2022 by mozo

[ooRya]

There was a thread recently, asking why a city the size of Bristol doesn't have a top flight team.

Sadly, this is why.

So many people "prepared" to sell, or resigned to selling Semenyo and/or Scott, when in reality, if we ever are going to have a shot at the prem, we need to be building around players like this.

 

I know people will come back to this to say "£38 mill loss" "FFP" "Points deduction", but that's right now - what's the excuse for the past decades?

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

29 minutes ago, OliOTIB said:

Im s**tting it not going to lie. 

If we get 15, how much becomes available? 

Need at least 5 of that to buy a decent striker, i fear that lansdown will just put that in his back pocket.

What a very silly post, just absolutely daft on a monumental scale.

Any money which comes in is not going into anyone's back pocket.

We have a club which makes huge losses, we are in fear of FFP breaches, SL has been funding a loss making business for years whilst investing huge sums in the infrastructure.

You clearly demonstrate a total ignorance of what is going on at this club.

[Selred]

Just now, ooRya said:

Sadly, this is why.

 

All teams sell their best players. I can only think of few exceptions (Messi?).

It's investing the money well, that's our problem.

Selling Flint, buying Webster. Now that is the kind of business we should be doing.

[cheddarwedlocker]

1 minute ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

What a very silly post, just absolutely daft on a monumental scale.

Any money which comes in is not going into anyone's back pocket.

We have a club which makes huge losses, we are in fear of FFP breaches, SL has been funding a loss making business for years whilst investing huge sums in the infrastructure.

You clearly demonstrate a total ignorance of what is going on at this club.

Jesus. Calm down pal

Due to the current financial situation I was just questioning how much of the money would be spent on improving the squad and what percentage Lansdown would take out of it.

Not a daft post at all, just raising an opinion.

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

1 minute ago, OliOTIB said:

Jesus. Calm down pal

Due to the current financial situation I was just questioning how much of the money would be spent on improving the squad and what percentage Lansdown would take out of it.

Not a daft post at all, just raising an opinion.

You just dont get it

[Monkeh]

20 hours ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

FWIW, I think Nige would be given a fair chunk to spend, and I fully believe we have targets lined up. 

We need to invest where possible, and perhaps this is what Nige has been anticipating.

Keeping both Scott and Semenyo would be fantastic, but if asked at the start of the transfer window, I would have expected at least one to depart. If we can retain Scott, then I'm happy. 

This would be the first opportunity that Nige has had decent funds available to improve the squad, so I would be interested to see what moves we would make. 

If we got 12 million nige would get 2 mil max, as we have ffp to contend with,

And it looks like we may have a ready made replacement in Conway 

[ScottishRed]

9 minutes ago, ooRya said:

There was a thread recently, asking why a city the size of Bristol doesn't have a top flight team.

Sadly, this is why.

So many people "prepared" to sell, or resigned to selling Semenyo and/or Scott, when in reality, if we ever are going to have a shot at the prem, we need to be building around players like this.

 

I know people will come back to this to say "£38 mill loss" "FFP" "Points deduction", but that's right now - what's the excuse for the past decades?

The ‘excuse’ as you call it is very simple and has been explained by myself and others many,many times.

When a club playing in a higher league expresses an interest in a player with the associated massive increase in salary, it becomes impossible to hold on to said player as they will want to move.

Ultimately, they are professional sportsmen who wish to maximize their income and test themselves at the highest level they can.

It is a simple as that. People need to remember that most of the pro players that turn out on a Saturday are not supporters of that team , they are simply doing their job.

[GrahamC]

1 hour ago, petehinton said:

Have a horrible feeling this is going to happen. We need to hope for a bidding war

Me too & Conway starting at Wigan was maybe not only a reward for his 2 goals but contingency planning.

If the fee gets to where we accept then the biggest 2 questions are how much of it does Pearson get to invest & where does he sees his priorities.

Semenyo going makes absolutely no dent whatsoever in our current wage bill (in this respect it is very similar to when Bobby Reid left) but I cannot see it funding all of another defender (NP’s stated priority), a holding midfielder & his replacement.

Though on that last point with Weimann (at present!), Conway & Wells all on our books I’d argue we need an alternative to Martin more.

[ooRya]

7 minutes ago, ScottishRed said:

The ‘excuse’ as you call it is very simple and has been explained by myself and others many,many times.

When a club playing in a higher league expresses an interest in a player with the associated massive increase in salary, it becomes impossible to hold on to said player as they will want to move.

Ultimately, they are professional sportsmen who wish to maximize their income and test themselves at the highest level they can.

It is a simple as that. People need to remember that most of the pro players that turn out on a Saturday are not supporters of that team , they are simply doing their job.

Like I said, this is why a city the size of Bristol doesn't have a top flight team. Too many people accept things too easily.

[Bristol Oil Services]

39 minutes ago, ooRya said:

There was a thread recently, asking why a city the size of Bristol doesn't have a top flight team.

Sadly, this is why.

So many people "prepared" to sell, or resigned to selling Semenyo and/or Scott, when in reality, if we ever are going to have a shot at the prem, we need to be building around players like this.

 

I know people will come back to this to say "£38 mill loss" "FFP" "Points deduction", but that's right now - what's the excuse for the past decades?

Brentford have done ok out of buying and selling, and buying some more. It's not what you do (most clubs are doing broadly the same thing) it’s the way that you do it. And that's what gets results.

[bcfc01]

14 minutes ago, ooRya said:

Like I said, this is why a city the size of Bristol doesn't have a top flight team. Too many people accept things too easily.

And some people seem incapable of accepting simple facts.

One last time - if a player wants to leave for a hell of a lot more salary and the prospect of higher level football, then he will leave. and all the club can do is get as much money as possible for the player.

Webster, Reid, Bryan are excellent examples.

[Selred]

2 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

Brentford have done ok out of buying and selling, and buying some more. It's not what you do (most clubs are doing broadly the same thing) it’s the way that you do it. And that's what gets results.

Absolutely. Brentford have sold Watkins, Maupay, Benramhma, Gray, Hogan.

But they've successfully replaced them each time. 

City size means nothing, it's all about infrastructure. 

[KegCity]

36 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

If we got 12 million nige would get 2 mil max, as we have ffp to contend with,

And it looks like we may have a ready made replacement in Conway 

Way too early to tell whether Conway can have that kind of impact.

[Davefevs]

3 hours ago, JoeAman08 said:

Part of me thinks 12m is too low. Then again another part of me thinks this is his last season here probably. Also he is a bit injury prone isn’t he. I think those are small factors which take his price down a bit. I’d be hoping for 15m really but is 12m now better than 8m next? Genuinely don’t know. 
 

How does it work for ffp? Does that 12m get smacked into accounts this season? Or does is split up? Does is matter if Palace give us 12m straight away or if they pay us a set amount for a few years? 

Simple answer:

Yes, £12m added to the transfer profit (fee (£12m) minus current asset value (£0 - Academy)), and therefore reduces any losses this season / increases profits (hahahaha) this season..and therefore helps towards this FFP cycle.

Whatever fee is agreed, whether that be all up-front or stage payment…goes into this year’s accounts….it’s a sale of an asset.

Add-ons are different, but if / when they are received, go into the accounts the year they are received.  No accounting is done on a prediction basis.

Hope that explains it.

32 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

If we got 12 million nige would get 2 mil max, as we have ffp to contend with,

And it looks like we may have a ready made replacement in Conway 

I wrote a post earlier saying that it doesn’t really work like that.

We aren’t £10m+ outside of the FFP limit…and when paying a fee the cost of that fee is spread over the contract length.  If I ignore wages we could buy four £5m players on 4 year deals, and it only cost us £5m (4 x £1.25m) this year.

2 minutes ago, Selred said:

Absolutely. Brentford have sold Watkins, Maupay, Benramhma, Gray, Hogan.

But they've successfully replaced them each time. 

City size means nothing, it's all about infrastructure. 

They successfully replaced them before they left = succession planning!!!

[TommyD68]

Looks as though Palace are thinking about making a 12 million bid for Antoine. I think with the need to strengthen in other areas and the likes of Conway coming through would be hard for City to reject it. I personally can’t see him staying beyond this season regardless of where City finish so I think would make sense to cash in. 

[Super]

40 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

If we got 12 million nige would get 2 mil max, as we have ffp to contend with,

And it looks like we may have a ready made replacement in Conway 

We really haven't. Conway is decent but he is nowhere near the level of Semenyo. If he goes we certainly need to bring somebody in even if it's on loan.

[Major Isewater]

9 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

Brentford have done ok out of buying and selling, and buying some more. It's not what you do (most clubs are doing broadly the same thing) it’s the way that you do it. And that's what gets results.

You can try hard , don’t mean a thing. 

[Bristol Oil Services]

4 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

You can try hard , don’t mean a thing. 

Not if the way you are doing it is not the right way, no

[Redrascal2]

8 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Simple answer:

Yes, £12m added to the transfer profit (fee (£12m) minus current asset value (£0 - Academy)), and therefore reduces any losses this season / increases profits (hahahaha) this season..and therefore helps towards this FFP cycle.

Whatever fee is agreed, whether that be all up-front or stage payment…goes into this year’s accounts….it’s a sale of an asset.

Add-ons are different, but if / when they are received, go into the accounts the year they are received.  No accounting is done on a prediction basis.

Hope that explains it.

I wrote a post earlier saying that it doesn’t really work like that.

We aren’t £10m+ outside of the FFP limit…and when paying a fee the cost of that fee is spread over the contract length.  If I ignore wages we could buy four £5m players on 4 year deals, and it only cost us £5m (4 x £1.25m) this year.

They successfully replaced them before they left = succession planning!!!

When you read what is happening at Barcelona and how much we are battling to stay in the boundaries of FFP it seems farcical.

[Bristol Oil Services]

1 hour ago, OliOTIB said:

Jesus. Calm down pal

Due to the current financial situation I was just questioning how much of the money would be spent on improving the squad and what percentage Lansdown would take out of it.

Not a daft post at all, just raising an opinion.

Probably be the next owner after SL that takes more than gives. If anyone takes us off his hands, that is

[ScottishRed]

25 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

Brentford have done ok out of buying and selling, and buying some more. It's not what you do (most clubs are doing broadly the same thing) it’s the way that you do it. And that's what gets results.

I agree and that is where we have failed. Pre-covid we had some decent money come in and SwissTony and LJ wasted it.

[Kid in the Riot]

1 hour ago, Monkeh said:

And it looks like we may have a ready made replacement in Conway 

No disrespect to Conway, but Semenyo is a physical beast capable of bullying defenders out of games, can hit the ball powerfully and score with both feet, has genuine pace, can hold the ball up, and can cross the ball making him last season's top creator (assists) for us by a mile.

The truth regards Semenyo is that he is irreplaceable. To begin to try and replace him, you'd be looking to sign at least two players to try and cover the many different assets he brings to the team. 

[phantom]

As reported by Alan Nixon in The Sun

[SecretSam]

£12m? Assuming there's a sell-on, take it.

[GrahamC]

19 page thread on the transfer forum.

[bcfc01]

Big thread in the Transfer Forum as well..

[LondonBristolian]

Know this will get merged in the transfer forum but Palace seem to like quick physical forwards who can play anywhere across the front three. I think he'd fit really well there and I'd find it hard to begrudge him the move. I'd want at least £15m plus add-ons though.