RedRoss Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I know fans are expecting more money but can we really demand it. We are about to lose Massengo for free in the summer. We need to make sure we aren't making that same mistake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonRobin21 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 The big question now is… Does the club wait until giving this the final sign-off until we have a player ready to sign? A bit like what we saw with Bentley yesterday. And the Flint (out) and Webster (in) scenario. We can’t risk leaving ourselves short. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Dembele join on loan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 I think we might settle somewhere in the middle between £10m and £15m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, RedRoss said: I know fans are expecting more money but can we really demand it. We are about to lose Massengo for free in the summer. We need to make sure we aren't making that same mistake. We may get compensation as he is under 24? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soultrader Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said: Anyone reckon we could get a Joe Bryan situation? Imagine Semenyo leaving the Bournemouth medical to join Palace instead… He might just fancy a trip to the beach on his way to the big smoke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Could a best case end up being - he goes to Bournemouth, bangs in a few goals whilst they go down, then a bigger club pick him up this summer and we feast on the sell-on too? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: We may get compensation as he is under 24? Surely that wouldn't be anywhere near 9 million though. I'm not sure of the precedent to be honest. Also I'm sure it's much less if it's a foreign club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattredrobin Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: £9m plus add-ons sounds a bit derisory tbh. Of course those add-ons could be very easy to hit, devil is in the detail but the initial fee yes is a bit derisory. Could it be that Bournemouth are willing to pay £9m upfront and the rest in instalments ? I've heard some people say if it is £15m it would likely be paid over a period of time so £9m upfront right now doesn't seem to bad if the add on's are likely to come a later date Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dastardly and Muttley Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dastardly and Muttley said: Could a best case end up being - he goes to Bournemouth, bangs in a few goals whilst they go down, then a bigger club pick him up this summer and we feast on the sell-on too? Or, to answer my own question. Could that be a worst case? Say he goes to another club for £14m. We’d get at best 40% of profit, so circa £2.2m, but miss out on all these add on clauses for appearances and so on. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 25 minutes ago, johnheadbcfc said: Value drops dramatically if he's here in the summer, plus the club needs the money (which is common knowledge to other clubs) My own opinion, but I disagree…it doesn’t necessarily drop, let alone dramatically. It would do if he was still here after the summer window closes, but not during it necessarily. The club always needs money, but we don’t currently need it for FFP, and come the summer we lose a big chunk of the cost base anyway. Just my view though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, TomF said: I'm sure we have someone lined up and it'll be a condition of the deal for AS. We'd be silly not as otherwise once we've sold him then we'll be held to ransom knowing the amount in the kitty etc. I think we are going to be held to ransom in any case, both by the selling club and the players agent. Even if this deal has not officially gone through other clubs will be 100% aware of it and will price their player accordingly. With an added premium as we are so late in the window. I think the best option financially would be a 6 month loan of a PL striker who is not currently getting a game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 The question no-one's asking, where would Antoine prefer to go? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, SecretSam said: The question no-one's asking, where would Antoine prefer to go? Crystal Palace 100% 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, Sturny said: Crystal Palace 100% Bournemuff's kit is nicer, tho' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Must be weird for Antoine going from a championship team to a Premier League club, whose entire stadium you could fit into the Lansdown stand. Can't feel like much of an upgrade apart from the coin. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainsey Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said: Anyone reckon we could get a Joe Bryan situation? Imagine Semenyo leaving the Bournemouth medical to join Palace instead… Whilst being chased down the motorway by Gary O'Neil... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, SecretSam said: The question no-one's asking, where would Antoine prefer to go? Viera or Gary ONeill ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunningdalered Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 25 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: £9m plus add-ons sounds a bit derisory tbh. Of course those add-ons could be very easy to hit, devil is in the detail but the initial fee yes is a bit derisory. Not sure about that. If you look at Semenyo's body of work to date, and his conversion rate in particular, there has to be quite a big leap of faith element to paying this sort of money for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 32 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said: Defensively yes. But I feel a Massengo type conversation for the future there @Davefevs You’ve started to answer it yourself below 27 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said: All good points @LondonBristolian I just feel from an attacking perspective we are a bit lop sided at the moment. With the vast majority of our attacks down the left hand side. Blackburn were well drilled on us last Sat, and when they shut down Pring. That showed up the lack of productivity from the right hand side, it left us a bit devoid until Bell came on and added a bit more impetus. Completely agree with both you @GrahamC over Tanner defensively. When Pring goes, he stays, and provides cover for Vyner & Atkinson. Makes a huge difference as people have said, playing a right back there, rather than someone out of position. I think it’s worth remembering who was playing left wing / forward for Blackburn on Saturday! And what that might’ve been meant tactically? I can’t comment on Swansea (a), but he was pretty decent with the ball v Brum too. Lets wait until he’s played another 4-6 games at RB in a back 4 and see how we view him then. 23 minutes ago, CTIDhc said: Would we have to pocket any of this to be even safer with FFP? Or can we go absolutely wild in the market now / summer? Sorry very out of the loop with regards to FFP Multiple ways to skin a cat (£9m)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Must be weird for Antoine going from a championship team to a Premier League club, whose entire stadium you could fit into the Lansdown stand. Can't feel like much of an upgrade apart from the coin. Probably helps when every other week you’re playing in front of 30-70k though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Must be weird for Antoine going from a championship team to a Premier League club, whose entire stadium you could fit into the Lansdown stand. Can't feel like much of an upgrade apart from the coin. Agree. Gets to play away every week though at least Palace the much better option though - if they want him and are prepared to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Musicworks Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I think Richard Gould would have known last week that a deal was happening and as someone else said this may have been a deadline day for a deal set by us. If so then I would be surprised if a deal for a replacement had not been worked on and likely agreed before todays news on Antoine. I don’t thing an experienced CEO would have waited for the deal to be agreed before having his incoming plans either set up or at least very close. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Must be weird for Antoine going from a championship team to a Premier League club, whose entire stadium you could fit into the Lansdown stand. Can't feel like much of an upgrade apart from the coin. he'd get to play at Old Trafford, Emirates though…or at least trying their changing rooms to begin with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Must be weird for Antoine going from a championship team to a Premier League club, whose entire stadium you could fit into the Lansdown stand. Can't feel like much of an upgrade apart from the coin. I think the coin would make for it though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: You’ve started to answer it yourself below I think it’s worth remembering who was playing left wing / forward for Blackburn on Saturday! And what that might’ve been meant tactically? I can’t comment on Swansea (a), but he was pretty decent with the ball v Brum too. Lets wait until he’s played another 4-6 games at RB in a back 4 and see how we view him then. I think anyone we look at on the right would be short term, you and @NcnsBcfc, haven't mentioned Kane Wilson is on his way back and would be long term competition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, petehinton said: Probably helps when every other week you’re playing in front of 30-70k though Bournemouth can offer the added bonus of a trip to Ashton Gate next season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLRed Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Reject 10 mill to accept 9 mill. Some great negotiating there….. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 If he goes then I hope we get 10 mill + up front (not confident on that now unfortunately) and he goes to a team that atleast look like they’ll be in the division next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Johnny Musicworks said: I think Richard Gould would have known last week that a deal was happening and as someone else said this may have been a deadline day for a deal set by us. If so then I would be surprised if a deal for a replacement had not been worked on and likely agreed before todays news on Antoine. I don’t thing an experienced CEO would have waited for the deal to be agreed before having his incoming plans either set up or at least very close. I agree. Although stuff does fall through too, hopefully not in our case. 2 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I think anyone we look at on the right would be short term, you and @NcnsBcfc, haven't mentioned Kane Wilson is on his way back and would be long term competition. @GrahamCdid on my behalf! He’s had a first season a bit like George hasn’t he? Plenty of time for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, BLRed said: Reject 10 mill to accept 9 mill. Some great negotiating there….. Struck me as odd too. Maybe the ‘add ons’ are better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, RedRoss said: Surely that wouldn't be anywhere near 9 million though. I'm not sure of the precedent to be honest. Also I'm sure it's much less if it's a foreign club. Refers to Massengo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, BLRed said: Reject 10 mill to accept 9 mill. Some great negotiating there….. It wasn’t £10m last week. it was £6+2 and £8+2…now it’s £9+unknown (all are alleged also) Its been mentioned enough times in this thread. 12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelboy Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, BLRed said: Reject 10 mill to accept 9 mill. Some great negotiating there….. It wasn't 10, it was 8 + 2 inn add ons, this seems to be 9 + add ons. So at lease £1m more! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollywhyte Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 You’d like to guess 9 mill + 3, would be about right to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, BLRed said: Reject 10 mill to accept 9 mill. Some great negotiating there….. Yeah fair enough mate, 8 mill + 2 mill add ons is far more acceptable than 9 mill + add ons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-transfers-live-semenyo-8075328 Bornmuff medical this afternoon..allegedly. Edited January 26, 2023 by bcfc01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC11 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Bournemouth also being linked with Zaniolo from Roma, another attacking wide player.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 29 minutes ago, SecretSam said: The question no-one's asking, where would Antoine prefer to go? Probably the same as everyone who is aware of the sport of football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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David Brent Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, BCFC11 said: Bournemouth also being linked with Zaniolo from Roma, another attacking wide player.... They have no chance at all with that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollywhyte Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 It maybe worth asking about Sikri Dembele, surely going to be out of favour entirely by the time they make these attacking signings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 29 minutes ago, WolfOfWestStreet said: Must be weird for Antoine going from a championship team to a Premier League club, whose entire stadium you could fit into the Lansdown stand. Can't feel like much of an upgrade apart from the coin. The £50k per week they were rumoured to be offering Semenyo might cushion the blow a little! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, ollywhyte said: It maybe worth asking about Sikri Dembele, surely going to be out of favour entirely by the time they make these attacking signings Maybe he's one of the add-ons.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Situation might be in his hands now if he wants to hear Palace out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Post website says they'll have an update at 2.30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattredrobin Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, View from the Dolman said: Post website says they'll have an update at 2.30 Press conference today so probably meaning they will have clarity on it from that......or not depending on Pearsons mood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Hope one of the add ons ain’t if they stay up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kid in the Riot Posted January 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2023 If you'd told me circa 2010 that in around 10 years time we'd be selling our best young players to Bournemouth for fees of £14m and £9m respectively, I'd have assumed you were a crackhead. 10 24 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: If you'd told me circa 2010 that in around 10 years time we'd be selling our best young players to Bournemouth for fees of £14m and £9m respectively, I'd have assumed you were a crackhead. Quite sad isn't it when you compare the likes of us to them, Brighton, Brentford etc 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, David Brent said: They have no chance at all with that one You’d certainly think so with Spurs and West Ham (as well as Milan) wanting him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) Reporting as breaking news now on SSN now as well that it’s Bournemouth for £9m plus add ons BUT said that Palace still interested. So nothing new then. As you were! Edited January 26, 2023 by lenred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mattredrobin said: Press conference today so probably meaning they will have clarity on it from that......or not depending on Pearsons mood. I wonder when the press conference being released will correlate to the move itself. Might be embargoed until later on in case the club don’t want to show their hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, brad blit said: Lets not forget people the reported 'Accepted' bid is from Talksport - They might have Simon Jordan as a commentator on there, but i dont believe they are the most reliable source out there. Plenty more to happen with this yet I believe To be fair, Alex Crook is usually pretty reliable. And as for the Hughton situation, that’s because Hughton’s agent leaked the story as they were supremely confident of getting the job. Only to discover that not having done your preparation for an interview doesn’t tend to land you a job! Source : KITR Edited January 26, 2023 by Harry 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Akira said: Quite sad isn't it when you compare the likes of us to them, Brighton, Brentford etc It is sad to look at two of those clubs, appreciate Bournemouth cheated FFP to get there but Brentford & Brighton had a sustainable business model whilst we’ve chopped and changed from pillars to Ashton to various other methods. Whilst our owner pumps money into the club , I don’t think he’s ever had either the right voices taking to him or a structured way of progress and for that we’ve fallen years behind Brentford & Brighton and selling out best young players to Bournemouth 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattredrobin Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, petehinton said: I wonder when the press conference being released will correlate to the move itself. Might be embargoed until later on in case the club don’t want to show their hand Yea it might possibly be pushed back, but pearson is usually honest in his interviews so I can't seeing it being much of an issue , or maybe one of the coaches may do it instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, petehinton said: I wonder when the press conference being released will correlate to the move itself. Might be embargoed until later on in case the club don’t want to show their hand But the whole football world in England will be aware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, daored said: It is sad to look at two of those clubs, appreciate Bournemouth cheated FFP to get there but Brentford & Brighton had a sustainable business model whilst we’ve chopped and changed from pillars to Ashton to various other methods. Whilst our owner pumps money into the club , I don’t think he’s ever had either the right voices taking to him or a structured way of progress and for that we’ve fallen years behind Brentford & Brighton and selling out best young players to Bournemouth Without wishing to derail the thread, it's his poor employment at management level, on and off the pitch, to blame. Edited January 26, 2023 by cidered abroad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: Post website says they'll have an update at 2.30 Dentist time! Like pulling teeth, waiting for updates! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Harry said: To be fair, Alex Crook is usually pretty reliable. And as for the Hughton situation, that’s because Hughton’s agent leaked the story as they were supremely confident of getting the job. Only to discover that not having done your preparation for an interview doesn’t tend to land you a job! Oi! That's my info! But yeah, Hughton's agent leaked that story to Talksport to put pressure on the City hierarchy to appoint him as he knew most City fans wanted Hughton. As it turns out Jon Lansdown decided to appoint Dean Holden instead 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: Dentist time! Like pulling teeth, waiting for updates! And that’s just waiting for all the pop ups to disappear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, Kid in the Riot said: Oi! That's my info! But yeah, Hughton's agent leaked that story to Talksport to put pressure on the City hierarchy to appoint him as he knew most City fans wanted Hughton. As it turns out Jon Lansdown decided to appoint Dean Holden instead Ha ha. I know. Sorry Kid. I’ll add you as the source to my post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CyderInACan Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: As it turns out Jon Lansdown decided to appoint Dean Holden instead Outstanding human 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, CyderInACan said: Outstanding human And holder of the club crayons. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 It's crap that even relegation threatened Premier League teams are able to cherry pick our brightest talents, double or treble their wages, and chuck £10m our way for fun. I do not blame players in the slightest for taking the payrise, getting a few months of top flight football on their CV, and then probably playing at the very top of the Championship if/when they do get relegated. Still shit though. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinforlife2 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Sky reporting 10.5m, not 9m, but say deal agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Red Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: As it turns out Jon Lansdown decided to appoint Dean Holden instead Is it definite that it was Jon Lansdown's decision, KITR? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Can’t knock him for going, think he’ll be able to carve out a similar career to Bobby Reid. I know West Ham had considered him but ultimately decided he’s not consistent enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: It's crap that even relegation threatened Premier League teams are able to cherry pick our brightest talents, double or treble their wages, and chuck £10m our way for fun. I do not blame players in the slightest for taking the payrise, getting a few months of top flight football on their CV, and then probably playing at the very top of the Championship if/when they do get relegated. Still shit though. Even more depressing that it’s such a poxy outfit as Bournemouth. But they gambled, cheated, got away with it and won. It’s a bugger. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Red Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Everything is starting to leak now. "In football 6 people can keep a secret if 5 of them are dead." Jimmy Greaves. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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