BUTOR Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I for one am glad to see us taking a decent transfer fee while it’s there for once, not hesitate and end up with a Massengo/Maynard/Diedhiou situation. I’ve felt that the ability to make unpopular decisions in transfer markets, particularly when it comes to moving players on, has long been lacking here. Disappointed to be losing a thrilling talent, but I don’t see an issue with what the club has done here at all. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said: Sky reporting 10.5m, not 9m, but say deal agreed. 9 mill and 1.5 in add ons? Hope not but could very much be the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Charlie BCFC said: 9 mill and 1.5 in add ons? Hope not but could very much be the case That would be pretty disappointing but understandable given the player wants to go and our precarious FFP position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Nigel Pearson has confirmed Bournemouth’s latest offer for Antoine Semenyo has been accepted and the Robins are in negotiations with a permanent replacement for the striker. Bournemouth made their third offer of the window on Thursday morning which is believed to be a fee of £9 million up front and further incentivised add-ons taking it past their previous offer of £10m. With Semenyo’s contract expiring in 18 months and City conscious of their own needs to improve their squad before Tuesday’s transfer deadline, the Cherries’ persistence and the sense of timing has ensured this proposal has been successful. He's also spoken about the possibility of a new face coming through the door as his replacement... https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-bournemouth-antoine-semenyo-8077018 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderwithtommy Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Really thought we’d get closer to 15m. Wonder if the change has come from the player pushing to go? Or add ons may be a gimme for us. so underwhelming to lose our best talent to Bournemouth tho 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: It's crap that even relegation threatened Premier League teams are able to cherry pick our brightest talents, double or treble their wages, and chuck £10m our way for fun. I do not blame players in the slightest for taking the payrise, getting a few months of top flight football on their CV, and then probably playing at the very top of the Championship if/when they do get relegated. Still shit though. We'd be doing the same to save our PL status if positions were reversed. Just business. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: It's crap that even relegation threatened Premier League teams are able to cherry pick our brightest talents, double or treble their wages, and chuck £10m our way for fun. I do not blame players in the slightest for taking the payrise, getting a few months of top flight football on their CV, and then probably playing at the very top of the Championship if/when they do get relegated. Still shit though. Thank Sky, BT etc. The TV money has completely ruined any parity in English football. I read an article last week about the EGM at Juventus to approve the resignation of all of their board because of the alleged financial irregularities. The out going chairman,Agnellio, talked again about the failed European Super League and why they still supported it. The simple reason being that ‘ one league’ the EPL, was unstoppable financially and unless the other major European leagues worked together and did something they would wither. ( BTW, I detest the super league concept),but you can see his point when you consider for example, how much Chelsea have paid out in the last two windows. It is where the big money is and that is not going to change. Another example, I have read numerous reports regarding Everton looking at Bielsa as their replacement for Lampard, apparently he has some concerns about how his style of play would fit with their current squad. Everton have some concerns about how much he and his team of coaches would cost - reported as £11m PER MONTH. That is not a typo. Edited January 26, 2023 by ScottishRed 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Street red Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 51 minutes ago, BLRed said: Reject 10 mill to accept 9 mill. Some great negotiating there….. We rejected 8 million plus 2 million this is 9 million plus add ons so it's more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Boston Red said: Is it definite that it was Jon Lansdown's decision, KITR? That's what I've heard, yes. Though a Steve/Jon decision is probably more accurate. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 So Nigel Pearson says that Antoine is in discussions with Bournemouth and a fee has been agreed. But no mention on bcfc.co.uk. What should I believe, @Robbored? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 33 minutes ago, downendcity said: The £50k per week they were rumoured to be offering Semenyo might cushion the blow a little! As a result of his court case it's been reported that Joelinton's basic wage is £43k. So a good deal for Antoine, if true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinforlife2 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Right decision, £9m in the bank is £9m in the bank. The 1.5m extra will be nice, if it happens, but 9m is 9m, and we can probably secure a CD, DM and Striker for half of that, included 2 permanents and a loan. Would not be surprised if its an in form league one player. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Sounds like we have some irons in the fire... same attributes as Semenyo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/23278055.bournemouth-agree-fee-bristol-city-antoine-semenyo/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, Charlie BCFC said: 9 mill and 1.5 in add ons? Hope not but could very much be the case In life, something or someone is worth what someone else is prepared to pay. It’s been clear that no clubs are prepared to pay any more so, as the saying goes, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Jerseybean said: https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/23278055.bournemouth-agree-fee-bristol-city-antoine-semenyo/ But no deal is yet understood to be close for Semenyo, with a move to London-based Crystal Palace said to be his preferred option, should they match Cherries’ bid. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, ScottishRed said: Thank Sky, BT etc. I well know why it's possible. I've made my opinions and thoughts on how to try and fix it well known on the forum, and have spoken to the club and to fan groups about this subject as well. I'm not just moaning about it on here. I am actively trying to do something about it (so far as I can). It's still crap. 3 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said: We'd be doing the same to save our PL status if positions were reversed. Just business. Hand on heart I hope we would try not to raid the Championship. Brentford have 'only' done so in respect of taking Lewis-Potter from Hull for £19m. It is possible to stay in the Premier League, and do well there, without taking advantage of desperate clubs in the division below. Football clubs do not exist in isolation and a stronger pyramid with better depth and a wider spread of talent is to the ultimate benefit of fans of all clubs, and ultimately creates a better product for the broadcasters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 Was there a £12m bid from Palace or did I misread/imagine it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Disappointed that we didn’t get more but I’m sure we got as much as we could. Still a great return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatchers Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 I think 10 million plus for a striker who is not a natural goal scorer is a fair price considering the present financial crisis this country is in. Anyone watching some of Antoine's misses in front of goal would probably think we were lucky to get that. Let's hope we replace him with a goal scorer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jerseybean said: But no deal is yet understood to be close for Semenyo, with a move to London-based Crystal Palace said to be his preferred option, should they match Cherries’ bid. Bristol Live understands that Crystal Palace, Semenyo’s preferred destination due to his London roots, were invited to make a counter offer but that hasn’t been forthcoming and Bournemouth have been the only club to make a credible bid and the 23-year-old is set to undergo a medical this afternoon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Jerseybean said: But no deal is yet understood to be close for Semenyo, with a move to London-based Crystal Palace said to be his preferred option, should they match Cherries’ bid. Could this not be detrimental to us? If Palace are only going to match Bournemouth's bid then this will just slow everything down leaving us less time to sign a replacement. If Palace came in with an improved offer that's different, but why would they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Was there a £12m bid from Palace or did I misread/imagine it? Exactly what I was thinking, but then wondered if that was just rumour, rather than a real bid. Guess we’ll have an answer in the next few hours if Palace don’t come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, BLRed said: Reject 10 mill to accept 9 mill. Some great negotiating there….. Bring back Mark Ashton (I doubt it's that simple - add ons, sell ons, payment schedules, all sort of incidental stuff!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Could this not be detrimental to us? If Palace are only going to match Bournemouth's bid then this will just slow everything down leaving us less time to sign a replacement. If Palace came in with an improved offer that's different, but why would they. Let's just wait and see. Anything can happen. We've been gazumped ourselves before so..........It's not over til the fat lady sings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Really worth watching Nige’s press conference today. so open and full of detail, not just on Semenyo, but recruitment, finances, philosophy, etc. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: So Nigel Pearson says that Antoine is in discussions with Bournemouth and a fee has been agreed. But no mention on bcfc.co.uk. What should I believe, @Robbored? ‘ in discussions’………… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: I well know why it's possible. I've made my opinions and thoughts on how to try and fix it well known on the forum, and have spoken to the club and to fan groups about this subject as well. I'm not just moaning about it on here. I am actively trying to do something about it (so far as I can). It's still crap. Hand on heart I hope we would try not to raid the Championship. Brentford have 'only' done so in respect of taking Lewis-Potter from Hull for £19m. It is possible to stay in the Premier League, and do well there, without taking advantage of desperate clubs in the division below. Football clubs do not exist in isolation and a stronger pyramid with better depth and a wider spread of talent is to the ultimate benefit of fans of all clubs, and ultimately creates a better product for the broadcasters. No disrespect intended, but i disagree completely (i guess that's what a forum is all about). We'd be attempting to 'raid' which ever club we could to try to get the best players we felt could help save our PL status - and we'd be trying to do it for as cheap as possible (or at least i hope we would). I don't believe for one second there would be any sort of principles of honour or lost sleep from City for trying to take the best talent from lower divisions if we were in Bournemouths position. In fact, i would prefer we did that (if it meant we could get the best players that improved us/could develop) rather than we spend larger sums of money on players in the PL/from abroad. All clubs would do the same. That's just football and business. Edited January 26, 2023 by Loco Rojo 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) I would say his summer injury and subsequent poor form up until December has cost us at least £5m And cost Semenyo a proper Prem club What a shame Edited January 26, 2023 by cidercity1987 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, Loco Rojo said: No disrespect intended, but i disagree completely (i guess that's what a forum is all about). We'd be attempting to 'raid' which ever club we could to try to get the best players we felt could help save our PL status - and we'd be trying to do it for as cheap as posible (or at least i hope we would). I don't believe for one second there would be any sort of principles of honour or lost sleep from City for trying to take the best talent from lower divisions if we were in Bournemouths position. In fact, i would prefer we did that (if it meant we could get the best players that improved us/could develop) rather than we spend larger sums of money on players in the PL/from abroad. All clubs would do the same. That's just football and business. I agree. After all, we raided Rovers and took advantage. No sentiment imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Really worth watching Nige’s press conference today. so open and full of detail, not just on Semenyo, but recruitment, finances, philosophy, etc. New faces bit was interesting. I took it to mean we’re going to see an academy player on the bench who we’ve not yet seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nest Egg Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 50 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: Outstanding human Yes? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Fordy62 said: New faces bit was interesting. I took it to mean we’re going to see an academy player on the bench who we’ve not yet seen. Or a new signing? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave L Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 On 24/01/2023 at 19:17, pongo88 said: If Semenjo doesn’t go, and consequently doesn’t get a big pay rise, he could be a bit grumpy. This is what we want. Remember when Devon Malcolm was hit on the head batting against South Africa. He said “You guys are history” and took 9 for 57 when South Africa batted. Nothing wrong with a tidy 9 for 57 1 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, Davefevs said: Or a new signing? I’d have to rewatch it but it struck me as academy rather than new signing for some reason. Obviously he went on to speak about new signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 37 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: He's also spoken about the possibility of a new face coming through the door as his replacement... https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-bournemouth-antoine-semenyo-8077018 Let's hope the rest of the body follows. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City_USA Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Really worth watching Nige’s press conference today. so open and full of detail, not just on Semenyo, but recruitment, finances, philosophy, etc. Watching that I was impressed with his candor and thankful that we have him leading our club through, let's face it, one of our toughest times in our history. Results on the pitch have been patchy but there's no doubt in my mind that he's been intricately involved in changing things behind the scenes that will beat fruit in the near future. Hopefully he has a few aces up his sleeve now that he has some financial wiggle room. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, Robbored said: ‘ in discussions’………… Which means that the transfer isn’t a done deal as yet. When/if is completed it’ll be announced on the OS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of his pie crust Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dave L said: 3 minutes ago, Dave L said: Nothing wrong with a tidy 9 for 57 Coombe was by far the better player Edited January 26, 2023 by Out of his pie crust 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave L Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Out of his pie crust said: Coombe was by far the better player I don't disagree! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Robbored said: Which means that the transfer isn’t a done deal as yet. When/if is completed it’ll be announced on the OS. Informative as ever. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) Had it hit say £12-13m the fee I'd think "well it's not ideal, ie still less than £15m but in the circs it's fine, it'll do". A straight fee of <£10m though doesn't feel like value. If it's the best bid on the table that's a different debate. Edited January 26, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said: No disrespect intended, but i disagree completely (i guess that's what a forum is all about). We'd be attempting to 'raid' which ever club we could to try to get the best players we felt could help save our PL status - and we'd be trying to do it for as cheap as posible (or at least i hope we would). I don't believe for one second there would be any sort of principles of honour or lost sleep from City for trying to take the best talent from lower divisions if we were in Bournemouths position. In fact, i would prefer we did that (if it meant we could get the best players that improved us/could develop) rather than we spend larger sums of money on players in the PL/from abroad. All clubs would do the same. That's just football and business. I understand reality. I've been a corporate lawyer for ten years, I know just what business is and how the capitalist dog-eat-dog world works. However, I put it to you that this attitude, this historic modus operandi, this is why football is in the state it is and why we are where we are. Where clubs can exploit loopholes in financial controls, cherry pick bright talents from lower clubs half way through a season, and generally do what they will because they have deeper pockets (whether in real terms or on paper), smarter lawyers and accountants, and are immune from any backlash. Football is not the same as other industries. Clubs do not exist in a vacuum and the whole pyramid operates as an ecosystem despite rivalries and competition. If any part of that system becomes too dominant or too weak, the whole system suffers. This isn't the thread for the full argument, and I apologise to those who came here for pure Semenyo-related news. I'll shut up now. However - it can change. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: I’d have to rewatch it but it struck me as academy rather than new signing for some reason. Obviously he went on to speak about new signings. I've not watched it yet, but if we are hinting at replacing Semenyo with an academy player, well that's a big ask. We have to consider that Conway looks like he is out for a long while. Bell is only just making the step up, which I'm sure we would recognise him as being a long way off a consistant Championship player. That leaves basically Wells and Weimann, Weimann especially has picked up injuries lately and not bagged the goals he has previous, for obvious reasons. Martin has disappeared?! Our league position isn't that great, would only take another dip and we are sucked in again. So yes, if an academy player is being lined up, he had better bloody well be good...and if he is that good why don't we already know about him? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: I understand reality. I've been a corporate lawyer for ten years, I know just what business is and how the capitalist dog-eat-dog world works. However, I put it to you that this attitude, this historic modus operandi, this is why football is in the state it is and why we are where we are. Where clubs can exploit loopholes in financial controls, cherry pick bright talents from lower clubs half way through a season, and generally do what they will because they have deeper pockets (whether in real terms or on paper), smarter lawyers and accountants, and are immune from any backlash. Football is not the same as other industries. Clubs do not exist in a vacuum and the whole pyramid operates as an ecosystem despite rivalries and competition. If any part of that system becomes too dominant or too weak, the whole system suffers. This isn't the thread for the full argument, and I apologise to those who came here for pure Semenyo-related news. I'll shut up now. However - it can change. You rest your case then? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dave L said: Nothing wrong with a tidy 9 for 57 Stoke Bishop. Good man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadredfred Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just listening to Nige now, and he confirmed we're after someone, and on a permanent and need to see in the next couple of days how that goes. Strikes me that we're possibly quite advanced in any deal, firstly for him to be so openly honest, and secondly that 'a couple of days' could be enough time to arrange medical/personal terms, if an approach and fee was already in discussion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, Midred said: You rest your case then? In this thread yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 There is one factor in all this that no one has yet mentioned when speculating about the value of any potential transfer that you can't put a price on, the sell-on percentage. Might be a 'we'll give you 9mil and include a 30% sell on clause relating to any future profit, or £10mil and a 20% sell-on...' Can't put a value on that as you've no idea if the player will get sold on, and if they do, will it be at a profit. Could be worth nothing, could be worth loads. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 The club aren’t dumb, there’s no way in hell they are thinking an academy player plugs the gap and nothing else. The fact we’re letting Semenyo go after a week of this dragging on, plus Pearson mentioning there’s basically an offer on the cards for someone else already, suggests me that they’re pretty confident that something will be done in the next few days. Queue Diony announced at HT on Saturday. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: I understand reality. I've been a corporate lawyer for ten years, I know just what business is and how the capitalist dog-eat-dog world works. However, I put it to you that this attitude, this historic modus operandi, this is why football is in the state it is and why we are where we are. Where clubs can exploit loopholes in financial controls, cherry pick bright talents from lower clubs half way through a season, and generally do what they will because they have deeper pockets (whether in real terms or on paper), smarter lawyers and accountants, and are immune from any backlash. Football is not the same as other industries. Clubs do not exist in a vacuum and the whole pyramid operates as an ecosystem despite rivalries and competition. If any part of that system becomes too dominant or too weak, the whole system suffers. This isn't the thread for the full argument, and I apologise to those who came here for pure Semenyo-related news. I'll shut up now. However - it can change. I can't disagree with your frustration, but the business of football is all about greed and wealth (whether that's financial, status or obtaining the best players). It'll never change (or enough) to make it more sustainable for the lower leagues because there's too much greed for making the PL the best. The whole sport is driven by getting to the top, stepping on others to get there and being rewarded for it. If i'm honest, it's difficult for me to complain about what's fair or unfair when being on the receiving end, when i know our club would do the same. Like you say, i'm sure it could change - anything can - but those in charge wouldn't want it to, or would make it impossible if it meant damaging the brand financially. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Crystal Palace potential hijack Bristol Live understands Crystal Palace have attempted a late hijack on Bournemouth's deal to sign Semenyo but they have had little success. Perhaps a factor is that it's too little, too late after City gave them ample opportunity to make their move this morning following Bournemouth's third and final offer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 25 minutes ago, Robbored said: Which means that the transfer isn’t a done deal as yet. When/if is completed it’ll be announced on the OS. Thanks for the insight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, RedM said: I've not watched it yet, but if we are hinting at replacing Semenyo with an academy player, well that's a big ask. We have to consider that Conway looks like he is out for a long while. Bell is only just making the step up, which I'm sure we would recognise him as being a long way off a consistant Championship player. That leaves basically Wells and Weimann, Weimann especially has picked up injuries lately and not bagged the goals he has previous, for obvious reasons. Martin has disappeared?! Our league position isn't that great, would only take another dip and we are sucked in again. So yes, if an academy player is being lined up, he had better bloody well be good...and if he is that good why don't we already know about him? We're not. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Loco Rojo said: I can't disagree with your frustration, but the business of football is all about greed and wealth (whether that's financial, status or obtaining the best players). It'll never change (or enough) to make it more sustainable for the lower leagues because there's too much greed for making the PL the best. The whole sport is driven by getting to the top, stepping on others to get there and being rewarded for it. If i'm honest, it's difficult for me to complain about what's fair or unfair when being on the receiving end, when i know our club would do the same. Like you say, i'm sure it could change - anything can - but those in charge wouldn't want it to, or would make it impossible if it meant damaging the brand financially. It might change - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64411515 Honestly, we can pick this up on another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidal Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Lew-T said: Fair? Fair as in the way Bournemouth cheated their way to the PL and are now taking advantage of being a yo-yo club. Quite frankly **** what they think is fair, get as much money as possible, and even then ask for more. Oh dear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Kid in the Riot said: That's what I've heard, yes. Though a Steve/Jon decision is probably more accurate. I'm not confused by your statement, just perplexed by the SL/JL reasoning… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 He’s going to be a big loss, especially going by recent form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 35 minutes ago, RedM said: I've not watched it yet, but if we are hinting at replacing Semenyo with an academy player, well that's a big ask. We have to consider that Conway looks like he is out for a long while. Bell is only just making the step up, which I'm sure we would recognise him as being a long way off a consistant Championship player. That leaves basically Wells and Weimann, Weimann especially has picked up injuries lately and not bagged the goals he has previous, for obvious reasons. Martin has disappeared?! Our league position isn't that great, would only take another dip and we are sucked in again. So yes, if an academy player is being lined up, he had better bloody well be good...and if he is that good why don't we already know about him? Admittedly I was working while listening, but the particular part I think I’m referring to was about Saturdays game against West Brom. I’m sure he alluded to us seeing new faces - but it was outside of the transfer talk section if that makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: I'm not confused by your statement, just perplexed by the SL/JL reasoning… SL has form for internal appointments, seems logical to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidal Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Don’t understand fans moaning about the price….he has an average goal scoring record, he has 1.5 years on contract so not tied down, and injury prone. At this level he is a good player but big step up. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 54 minutes ago, marmite said: Informative as ever. Didn’t get the bite he was after so quoted his own post to try again.. I respect it in a way, the unrelenting commitment to being an arse………….. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: SL has form for internal appointments, seems logical to me. that's not logic though…that's convenience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, exAtyeoMax said: that's not logic though…that's convenience. I meant that SL appointing an internal applicant is a logical thought process, not the appointment itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 40 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said: Thanks for the insight. A sagacious insight, no less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Didn’t get the bite he was after so quoted his own post to try again.. I respect it in a way, the unrelenting commitment to being an arse………….. He also made a thread on the main forum but it got deleted or merged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Admittedly I was working while listening, but the particular part I think I’m referring to was about Saturdays game against West Brom. I’m sure he alluded to us seeing new faces - but it was outside of the transfer talk section if that makes sense. That would make sense. I believe we are just waiting for the announcement, Semenyo has all but gone and therefore wont be available to play on Saturday. Possibly if we do bring a player in he either might not sign in time or just as likely be cup tied. Therefore we are looking to the academy to make up the bench I would guess. Just as Bournemouth can be attractive to a championship player on the up, we too must look a good prospect to a league one player looking to make the step up too. Such is football. I just hope we have someone in place, Semenyo will be a loss. If we don't get someone in before the window shuts, and Nigel doesn't like loans then it really is fingers crossed for the rest of the season. I don't know if we have enough in the squad if we take out the injured and out of favour players? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Fordy62 said: New faces bit was interesting. I took it to mean we’re going to see an academy player on the bench who we’ve not yet seen. Undoubtedly the case. In the press conference Pearson says Pring is suspended (he was booked in both ties v Swansea, I had no idea that rule applied) so with him & Antoine not playing, Weimann not available that means we are already 2 down, assuming the new keeper replaces Bentley. You can have 9 on the bench in the cup, but we have only had 7 in both Swansea games so would need to find 2 new players just to even have that number. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: I meant that SL appointing an internal applicant is a logical thought process, not the appointment itself. ok, that's not the point I was making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 25 minutes ago, Vidal said: Don’t understand fans moaning about the price….he has an average goal scoring record, he has 1.5 years on contract so not tied down, and injury prone. At this level he is a good player but big step up. I said this about Semenyo and Scott, our fans seem to think we can just demand what we value them at and get that money, that's not how it works. I'm surprised we've taken £9 when we've had a £10m bid before now, however chances are that we're either getting a better sell on clause or I wonder if they have some sort of relegation fee they will pay if they come down into the Championship? Whatever it is I don't beleive the club are doing bad business, Semenyo has tons of potential but he's still not show himself to be a consistent scorer and he'll have to step his game up, £9m for a Championship striker isn't a cheap buy by any means. I'm only concerned if we've not got someone lined up to bring in, even if it's just a loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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