Season Tickets

[frenchred]

Fantastic effort by those who have already bought theirs.

Can someone sensibly explain to me why the prices rise? If its been explained before then please lock this thread, but I can't comprehend why they go up

[phantom]

34 minutes ago, frenchred said:

Fantastic effort by those who have already bought theirs.

Can someone sensibly explain to me why the prices rise? If its been explained before then please lock this thread, but I can't comprehend why they go up

Sales technique to get as many people as possible to buy earlier rather than later

The club has much less income over the summer months so having this money in at the start of the summer greatly helps all other costs that continue

[Bristol Rob]

Helps with forecasting, cash flow and budgeting.

Also rewards commitment before the window is fully open and you know what your starting 11 might be.

[Robbored]

How many SCs have been bought? Last I saw was it was 12000

[frenchred]

I understand what you are saying but it's nearly always returning fans who book first, I understand this isn't an exact science, they would still renew to keep their seat, I just Dont understand why prices need to go up?

[weepywall]

53 minutes ago, Robbored said:

How many SCs have been bought? Last I saw was it was 12000

Just over 12000 last I heard.

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

I'm happy. As I reach 65 before the season starts my ST is now £40 cheaper than last year.

[frenchred]

Just now, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

I'm happy. As I reach 65 before the season starts my ST is now £40 cheaper than last year.

Good for you mate, I'm happy as well got mine early doors, just don't see the logic in increasing prices as of 01 june

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

3 minutes ago, frenchred said:

Good for you mate, I'm happy as well got mine early doors, just don't see the logic in increasing prices as of 01 june

I must admit that given many people's financial situation right now I don't see the logic either, especially knowing that in the prevailing climate family finances are likely to get worse before they get better. 

[Mad Cyril]

59 minutes ago, frenchred said:

I just Dont understand why prices need to go up?

Glass half full... the prices are reduced for those committing earlier.

Normal prices thereafter.

[42nite]

2 hours ago, phantom said:

Sales technique to get as many people as possible to buy earlier rather than later

The club has much less income over the summer months so having this money in at the start of the summer greatly helps all other costs that continue

Spot on, stops people waiting till the last minute, as many do.

 

[frenchred]

Just now, 42nite said:

Spot on, stops people waiting till the last minute, as many do.

 

Not if they wanted to keep their seat

[Super]

1 hour ago, frenchred said:

I understand what you are saying but it's nearly always returning fans who book first, I understand this isn't an exact science, they would still renew to keep their seat, I just Dont understand why prices need to go up?

Given the cost of living situation it's pretty bizarre tbh.

[fatchers]

An incentive to renew early and keeping your seat for next season. Much needed cash flow for club while no match day revenue in off season. For those that leave it as late as possible to buy season cards ,have to pay the increase and will not be able to keep their seat. 

[Big C]

2 hours ago, frenchred said:

I understand what you are saying but it's nearly always returning fans who book first, I understand this isn't an exact science, they would still renew to keep their seat, I just Dont understand why prices need to go up?

It generates more income

[frenchred]

16 minutes ago, Big C said:

It generates more income

people really wait for the price rise? lol

[frenchred]

42 minutes ago, fatchers said:

An incentive to renew early and keeping your seat for next season. Much needed cash flow for club while no match day revenue in off season. For those that leave it as late as possible to buy season cards ,have to pay the increase and will not be able to keep their seat. 

i get that. but why should they pay more? they lose their seat if they had one but why increase the prices?

 

[Sir Geoff]

18 minutes ago, frenchred said:

i get that. but why should they pay more? they lose their seat if they had one but why increase the prices?

 

They aren't increasing the prices. Prices from 1st June are the normal price. Buy before 1st June to get the reduced rate. Every company does it nowadays from Easyjet to Great Western Railway. As others have said it guarantees a certain amount of income during a lean time. If they didn't do this everyone would wait until a week before the season to renew.

[frenchred]

3 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

They aren't increasing the prices. Prices from 1st June are the normal price. Buy before 1st June to get the reduced rate. Every company does it nowadays from Easyjet to Great Western Railway. As others have said it guarantees a certain amount of income during a lean time. If they didn't do this everyone would wait until a week before the season to renew.

That's fair enough but why would everyone wait until a week before? They could keep the seat deadlines

[Sir Geoff]

46 minutes ago, frenchred said:

That's fair enough but why would everyone wait until a week before? They could keep the seat deadlines

Hypothetically. Also why pay for something 3 months before if you don't need to.

[Buckeyed]

2 hours ago, frenchred said:

people really wait for the price rise? lol

No, but next year's price freeze or "only a tenner more" will be based on the June price, so it will be more next year.

[frenchred]

1 hour ago, Sir Geoff said:

Hypothetically. Also why pay for something 3 months before if you don't need to.

So you could se ure either the seat you currently have, or the seat you want?

[Alex_BCFC]

People would just pay last minute if you had prices the same all the way throughout. And I suspect some would plan to renew then not bother. Giving an incentive early doors gets cash rolling in at a time when cash flow is low (ie off season). Pretty simple and sensible really. 

[frenchred]

17 minutes ago, Alex_BCFC said:

People would just pay last minute if you had prices the same all the way throughout. And I suspect some would plan to renew then not bother. Giving an incentive early doors gets cash rolling in at a time when cash flow is low (ie off season). Pretty simple and sensible really. 

i know, i know i know it’s what everyone else has said but all those who wanted to keep their seats or get the best choice would still go early or lose their seat. so keep the seat deadline but do away with the price increase coming up

[eardun]

49 minutes ago, frenchred said:

i know, i know i know it’s what everyone else has said but all those who wanted to keep their seats or get the best choice would still go early or lose their seat. so keep the seat deadline but do away with the price increase coming up

Not everyone is renewing though. Some are buying for the first time.

[frenchred]

10 minutes ago, eardun said:

Not everyone is renewing though. Some are buying for the first time.

but they can do that now! so why put the price up?

 

[Laner]

22 minutes ago, frenchred said:

but they can do that now! so why put the price up?

 

For all the reasons given in the thread. But as a side question, what do the prices rise to post 1 June when the 'advanced price' is removed? I can't find that anywhere on the website.

[t_b]

20 minutes ago, Laner said:

For all the reasons given in the thread. But as a side question, what do the prices rise to post 1 June when the 'advanced price' is removed? I can't find that anywhere on the website.

Ah. That they won’t tell you. Because otherwise you might decide it’s worth holding out… they want you to think it’ll rise a ridiculous amount and buy one now. 

[eardun]

51 minutes ago, frenchred said:

but they can do that now! so why put the price up?

 

As others have said, depends how you view it - I prefer to think of it as getting a cheaper price for parting with cash/signing up early. Like a lot of purchases, commit early and get the best deal. Encourages more to commit early which in turn gives the club earlier cash (or committed cash if the DD payment option).

[Laner]

46 minutes ago, tommy_b said:

Ah. That they won’t tell you. Because otherwise you might decide it’s worth holding out… they want you to think it’ll rise a ridiculous amount and buy one now. 

I've just found the answer. Website updated today says a rise of between £15 and £20.

[eardun]

36 minutes ago, Laner said:

I've just found the answer. Website updated today says a rise of between £15 and £20.

Yes full price list from 1 June set out here now:

? Season Ticket price increases after June 1st | Bristol City

 

[Topper 123]

19 hours ago, Sir Geoff said:

Hypothetically. Also why pay for something 3 months before if you don't need to.

But you don’t pay before I’ve got my seat and haven’t paid a penny yet as payments spread over season EASY 

[Andy082005]

Contemplating renewing this season and moving to the South Stand. There are a few odd seats in S25, any feedback on what it’s like there? Is that a safe standing part of the stand or next block over? 

[Red Army 75]

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/season-tickets-on-sale/
 

Update on sales. Not to bad IMO

[cheddarwedlocker]

Recently moved with a few mates from the dolman and the lansdown to s24, mainly because of the better atmosphere and if im honest, less financial pressure. Anyone know what the view is like there? Heard good things, but is there anyone who sits there that can tell me otherwise?

[Davefevs]

36 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said:

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/season-tickets-on-sale/
 

Update on sales. Not to bad IMO

Just need another signing now and it may bump up some more.

[slartibartfast]

7 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/season-tickets-on-sale/
 

Update on sales. Not to bad IMO

I thought this figure was given out a few weeks ago ?

[phantom]

10 minutes ago, slartibartfast said:

I thought this figure was given out a few weeks ago ?

12000 was the last figure, this one is up to the end of the initial sales period 

[Curr Avon]

15 minutes ago, phantom said:

12000 was the last figure, this one is up to the end of the initial sales period 

"They're staying in droves!"

[Redandproud]

On 25/05/2022 at 13:53, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

I'm happy. As I reach 65 before the season starts my ST is now £40 cheaper than last year.

Well I'm 68, my ST went up by £10, and I sit in disabled section,

[Monkeh]

More of an interest to me is how it compares to last season,

If its down then we have an issue, not as big as some (included myself) suspected but there's still one there,

We need to make football more affordable 

[Davefevs]

Just now, Monkeh said:

More of an interest to me is how it compares to last season,

If its down then we have an issue, not as big as some (included myself) suspected but there's still one there,

We need to make football more affordable 

It’s higher this year than same point last year. 

[1960maaan]

8 hours ago, phantom said:

12000 was the last figure, this one is up to the end of the initial sales period 

I thought they'd posted yesterday that there are over 12,500 now.

[Monkeh]

9 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

It’s higher this year than same point last year. 

Good news then,

That's a relief 

[Andy082005]

16 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

It’s higher this year than same point last year. 

I’m actually quietly optimistic for a better season this year. Get off to a good start (or at least a better start then normal) and I can see a tidy little take up of half year seasons tickets to 

[Monkeh]

1 hour ago, Andy082005 said:

I’m actually quietly optimistic for a better season this year. Get off to a good start (or at least a better start then normal) and I can see a tidy little take up of half year seasons tickets to 

15th? 

[phantom]

2 hours ago, Monkeh said:

More of an interest to me is how it compares to last season,

If its down then we have an issue, not as big as some (included myself) suspected but there's still one there,

We need to make football more affordable 

On the SC&T call last week Mark Kelly said we are 500 hundred ahead of the same stage last season

[weepywall]

2 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

I thought they'd posted yesterday that there are over 12,500 now.

13,000 and rising was the update yesterday.

[Nogbad the Bad]

Not too bad, but it would be interesting to see a breakdown of sales in age groups, especially the number of children's tickets.

 

[bcfc01]

Great sales figures, hopefully a few thousand kids season tickets sold - fans of the future. 

Also impressive that the numbers are up on last season. 

Positive stuff. 

[SBB]

Wry smile at all those who weren’t renewing their SCs unless/until NP was relieved of his duties and convinced hundreds if not thousands would be doing the same. UTC. 

[BUTOR]

30 minutes ago, SBB said:

Wry smile at all those who weren’t renewing their SCs unless/until NP was relieved of his duties and convinced hundreds if not thousands would be doing the same. UTC. 

I question whether a lot of fans underestimated the amount of returning fans, who were uncomfortable going last year in what still didn’t feel like a ‘post-covid’ society for a large part of the season. It may be the case that a couple of thousand have indeed decided not to renew, but a couple of thousand are returning. I certainly know a few older fans for whom this is the case.

[Jerseybean]

1 hour ago, bcfc01 said:

Great sales figures, hopefully a few thousand kids season tickets sold - fans of the future. 

Also impressive that the numbers are up on last season. 

Positive stuff. 

Over 13,000 sold, so far, how does that compare with recent seasons? 

[Numero Uno]

19 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Over 13,000 sold, so far, how does that compare with recent seasons? 

It’s brilliant that, when adjusted for the 5k on here who swore blind they weren’t renewing, we’ve got so many new fans!!!

Edited June 7, 2022 by Numero Uno

[Numero Uno]

37 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Over 13,000 sold, so far, how does that compare with recent seasons? 

The interesting bit is that judging by the mood on here I was expecting around 11.5k, especially when the anecdotal evidence is “me and my 14 mates who all sit together aren’t renewing”. Shows that this place is a bit more negative than the wider fan base as a whole and that many comments are hot air made for effect in the light of a bad performance or result.

[ExiledAjax]

40 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Over 13,000 sold, so far, how does that compare with recent seasons? 

Last season we announced when we got to >12,000, but I cannot see any announcement about getting over 13,000 last season. That suggests to me that we have increased our STholder fan base this season.

[weepywall]

38 minutes ago, Jerseybean said:

Over 13,000 sold, so far, how does that compare with recent seasons? 

Mentioned by Phantom further up, 500 up on last season at this stage.

[Jerseybean]

7 minutes ago, weepywall said:

Mentioned by Phantom further up, 500 up on last season at this stage.

Thanks I had missed that 

[cityloyal473]

Sunderland have sold over 28,000 

[slartibartfast]

53 minutes ago, cityloyal473 said:

Sunderland have sold over 28,000 

So have the sags !

[Banjo Island]

2 minutes ago, slartibartfast said:

So have the sags !

Thats down to the new crowd boosting scheme BYO white plastic patio chair

[NcnsBcfc]

1 hour ago, Numero Uno said:

The interesting bit is that judging by the mood on here I was expecting around 11.5k, especially when the anecdotal evidence is “me and my 14 mates who all sit together aren’t renewing”. Shows that this place is a bit more negative than the wider fan base as a whole and that many comments are hot air made for effect in the light of a bad performance or result.

Pleasantly surprised with the new ST figures, as it's a difficult cost of living picture for a lot of people at the moment.

I have however seen a lot of people leaving the Dolman for places like the South Stand, Family areas or Lansdown wings.  So i think there has been an adjustment financially for a significant amount of fans, whilst still of course supporting the club.

It Would be interesting to see the breakdown come the end of actual income from STs now compared to previous years.

For me the club though have to look at their POTD figures for next season. I'm S32 with my eldest (Under 19). My ticket averages out at £23 per game. I would have no issue with £30 per game POTD as still making a saving. £39 though for me is too much for people, I know my wife baulks at the cost; if she wants to come and watch with us. We then have to wait for the special offers that are being offered in the season.

[Lanterne Rouge]

1 hour ago, slartibartfast said:

So have the sags !

I`m surprised they can fit that many in the car park.

Unless it`s for the new stadium which will surely be unveiled in the next week or two - they must just be putting the finishing touches to the build I should think.

[Kodjias Wrist]

13 k is good at this point in the year. With a couple more decent signings I can see edge closer and closer to 14k.

On a sidenote I noticed PNE have sold over 11.5k (best sales in 60 years) which is remarkable considering their average was 12.5k last season. I believe I read they have 4000 new season tickets where hundreds were free to concessions and the overall pricing is very good. Whats Ridsdale up to eh ?

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

13 k is good at this point in the year. With a couple more decent signings I can see edge closer and closer to 14k.

On a sidenote I noticed PNE have sold over 11.5k (best sales in 60 years) which is remarkable considering their average was 12.5k last season. I believe I read they have 4000 new season tickets where hundreds were free to concessions and the overall pricing is very good. Whats Ridsdale up to eh ?

Yes, an early bird offer on the highest tier price and a kids offer I think.

Although I can’t speak for all City fans there was a pretty low comment thread (single number pages) when our prices were announced, no real uproar, so City can’t have done a bad job in getting the pricing and marketing right.

[Loosey Boy]

6 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Yes, an early bird offer on the highest tier price and a kids offer I think.

Although I can’t speak for all City fans there was a pretty low comment thread (single number pages) when our prices were announced, no real uproar, so City can’t have done a bad job in getting the pricing and marketing right.

Agreed - think City have got the pricing and marketing right…..over 13k is impressive at this stage - I didn’t think sales would be this good….hopefully end up between 14k and 15k by the time the new season kicks off

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, Loosey Boy said:

Agreed - think City have got the pricing and marketing right…..over 13k is impressive at this stage - I didn’t think sales would be this good….hopefully end up between 14k and 15k by the time the new season kicks off

Yep.  The big question for several of us is how much money will be generate from these sales.  If the increase is down to more kids tickets sold than full paying adults then we won’t generate as much as the other way around.  I know some have said they’ve moved to cheaper areas too.

Id love to know the breakdown of each age bracket in each stand.  You could truly compare then.

But footfall at AG is important too for other revenue streams.

[Monkeh]

33 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Yep.  The big question for several of us is how much money will be generate from these sales.  If the increase is down to more kids tickets sold than full paying adults then we won’t generate as much as the other way around.  I know some have said they’ve moved to cheaper areas too.

Id love to know the breakdown of each age bracket in each stand.  You could truly compare then.

But footfall at AG is important too for other revenue streams.

It's probably a 60/40 split but it would be interesting to see the stats,

We need to hook those kids early 

[Nogbad the Bad]

33 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Yep.  The big question for several of us is how much money will be generate from these sales.  If the increase is down to more kids tickets sold than full paying adults then we won’t generate as much as the other way around.  I know some have said they’ve moved to cheaper areas too.

Id love to know the breakdown of each age bracket in each stand.  You could truly compare then.

But footfall at AG is important too for other revenue streams.

I made this point earlier.

Getting young supporters in to the habit of going to AG is vital and the low prices for their ST's reflects how important this is to the club.

But the income from their ST's is comparatively very low compared to a full paying adult.

If the 13k sold are made up of 11k adult and 2k children it's very different to a 9k/4k split both in terms of revenue and seats occupied. We know many children's ST's are bought because of the low price (and free shirt) and may only be used a few times per season.

When people trumpet how wrong posters were to forecast a drop in ST's, and that many on here who said they would not renew actually do in the end, they should remember the club have previously said that among those who didn't renew last season were 1700 adults who had had a ST for 7 years or more.

So long term STH's were indeed not renewing in alarming numbers.

Hopefully many of those non renewals were due to fears of Covid and many of those fans now feel able to return, but if that's not the case, and many have got out of the habit and their numbers are being replaced by low price offers for children, the club's revenue is taking a big hit.

[Davefevs]

Great post Noggers.