Kal Naismith Signed (Official)

[Monkeh]

1 hour ago, Bouncearoundtheground said:

Great singing but let’s be honest, he wasn’t getting a 3 year deal anywhere else.

What? He's 30 not 36, if course he could of got a 3 year deal elsewhere

[Davefevs]

29 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

I think you're correct.

Signing Naismith, whilst also having Atkinson who can play the LCB role would indicate that we have now covered Bakers position. 

If Klose signs his deal, whilst also having Kalas, then we have 4 very good centre backs for this level. 

The Horsfall (Northampton) rumour may also be correct and act as Cundy's replacement, thus giving us great options at the back. 

Kane Wilson next please. 

This signing, may also help convince other players too.

[KegCity]

Quality signing. No idea why anyones moaning about the contract length, he’s 30 not 40.

[Lew-T]

Just now, KegCity said:

Quality signing. No idea why anyones moaning about the contract length, he’s 30 not 40.

I’ve heard the word journeyman?

What at 30?

[CiderHeadDan]

Refreshing to seemingly having a plan with our recruitment this season and getting players in for our system, instead of the random scattergun approach we have been accustomed to in previous seasons.

Get the bulk of our business done early and consider offers when they come in for our main assets - then we are in a better position to know how to navigate the latter end of the window.

 

[Harry]

10 minutes ago, KegCity said:

Quality signing. No idea why anyones moaning about the contract length, he’s 30 not 40.

I think the 30+, 3 year contract is a valid argument. As I’ve said earlier, I think he’s a solid enough player and I don’t see many options in the left back slot this summer so it’s a sensible signing. 
Would I prefer he was 27 on a 3 year deal. Absolutely. I generally don’t like us giving 3 years to 30+ year olds. It’s the type of transfer strategy that has us where we are at the moment, because they tend to be on the upper end of the wage scale, no resale value and more prone to hitting injuries and/or losing their legs. A couple of bad signings of that ilk and things can quickly go very wrong financially. And we are effing tight financially right now! 
 

Not saying that’ll happen in this case, but 30+ on 3 years is always a bit more risky. So it’s a valid argument. 
 

For what it’s worth, I’m usually wholly against such deals, but knowing where we are at the moment and that we’ll really only be able to tap into free agents this summer, it’s as sensible a signing in a position of need as we’re likely to get. 

[NcnsBcfc]

5 hours ago, Lew-T said:

Firstly, I’m not usually the one to shout transfer rumours across this board. So I will just pass this on from what I’ve heard earlier today…

 

Apparently we are having talks with this lad. Swansea are another club that’s very interested by all accounts. I’m not sure what his contract status is with Luton, I haven’t really looked into it…

 

Just passing on.

To be fair @Lew-T that is an outstanding post today.

I doff my hat to you. Great signing on a free.

With  Moore, Vyner possibly going. Baker retiring? And Klose, Cundy not resigning; it would be easy to be caught short around defensive positions.

[CiderJar]

 

 

 

[archie andrews]

26 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

I’ve heard the word journeyman?

What at 30?

he's seen luton.......

[cityal]

1 hour ago, TomF said:

Absolutely rattling the Luton fans. What a Friday night.
 

Up the ******* reds  

They will find their normal level back in league 2 or non league soon

They're like a more plucky version of the gas

[Northern Red]

[BUTOR]

43 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

What? He's 30 not 36, if course he could of got a 3 year deal elsewhere

Personally I think that’s the reason we were able to sign him. I class three years a long term contract, and I don’t think a club of higher prestige or a club with better bargaining power in the transfer window would ever offer that type of deal for a player like Naismith. In my opinion it’s part of the ‘creativity’ Pearson commented we needed to deploy in the market, and a 3 year deal for a player in their 30s is as much of an educated risk as the signing* of the unproven Mark Sykes. You never know when a player is about to decline, but it almost always kicks in around now (Naismith’s age).

The signing is very good, maybe even excellent given our circumstances. But its still been agreed through compromises. He’s not here to do us a favour.  

Edited May 27, 2022 by Bouncearoundtheground

[Mike Hunt-Hertz]

15 minutes ago, cityal said:

They will find their normal level back in league 2 or non league soon

They're like a more plucky version of the gas

But with more substantial stands.

[Fuber]

50 minutes ago, KegCity said:

Quality signing. No idea why anyones moaning about the contract length, he’s 30 not 40.

More importantly, he's free. We lose nothing, there's no real risk.

Not exactly Nakhi mkII is it.

[The Bard]

8 minutes ago, Bouncearoundtheground said:

Personally I think that’s the reason we were able to sign him. I class three years a long term contract, and I don’t think a club of higher prestige or a club with better bargaining power in the transfer window would ever offer that type of deal for a player like Naismith. In my opinion it’s part of the ‘creativity’ Pearson commented we needed to deploy in the market, and a 3 year deal for a player in their 30s is as much of an educated risk as the signing* of the unproven Mark Sykes. You never know when a player is about to decline, but it almost always kicks in around now (Naismith’s age).

The signing is very good, maybe even excellent given our circumstances. But its still been agreed through compromises. He’s not here to do us a favour.  

His availability record is the main reason. And he'll be a permanent fixture in our 18 man squad given his versatility.

30 is not old these days if a player looks after himself, especially at CB where you run less.  

[bpexile]

3 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

Hatters fans taking it well.

 

Classy !!! 

[bpexile]

2 hours ago, steviestevieneville said:

Bloody hell

Yep, a one man band 

[RedNachos]

Apprehensive when I saw his age, but should Klose depart this could be an extremely good bit of business. Could bring that leadership and experience Klose had while being versatile and off the peak of his career.

Excited to see his run out in re season and where Nige sees him fit (multiple positions or not).

happy with that and love the Luton lot’s meltdown!

[SBB]

The real reason for the level of annoyance among Luton fans.
2021/2022 team calendar. 

[2015]

Lee Matthews is his agent apparently, incredible work from Lee

[BS3City]

Poor old salty Luton eh? Great signing for us - have they still got that massive shite conservatory down one side of the ground? I think it's on the left just as you come through the garden.

Tossers...

[Jerseybean]

Random bit of info. In September 2010, Naismith and fellow Rangers player Kyle Hutton, were abducted in Edinburgh by two men and driven around the city in Hutton's car before they were dumped in the Niddrie area of Edinburgh. Naismith and Hutton were then mugged as the thieves stole the car. Later, both the thieves were convicted and prosecuted, and the car was retrieved.

[Rebounder]

1 hour ago, 2015 said:

Lee Matthews is his agent apparently, incredible work from Lee

https://smiworld.co.uk/team/

 

Few ex city and south west players there. 

[Ska Junkie]

To our Luton visitors, I mean absolutely no disrespect at all.

Kal has 3-4 years left, has upped his wages, moved to a club that had a bang up to date stadium, 20K regular home support and a brand new training centre which is state of the art ( your new stadium won't be ready in time for Kal), will be playing with his mate Williams in a stunning part of the country.

I appreciate Luton have won more than we ever have but, stadium including, we are ready in Kals available time frame, you won't be with all possible respect.

The other thing, he was free, not transferred from LTFC, that is NOT of our making.

See you next season!

Edited May 27, 2022 by Ska Junkie

[Mr Popodopolous]

Seem to recall, quite versatile.

Great signing- and out of the blue too. Looks like he's coming off the back of a great season too, my reservation here (was- not is), he is 30, should we be signing outfield players aged 30 but tbh that's significantly outweighed by the positives I reckon!

Kudos to the OP too.

[TheReds]

8 hours ago, Harry said:

I think the 30+, 3 year contract is a valid argument. As I’ve said earlier, I think he’s a solid enough player and I don’t see many options in the left back slot this summer so it’s a sensible signing. 
Would I prefer he was 27 on a 3 year deal. Absolutely. I generally don’t like us giving 3 years to 30+ year olds. It’s the type of transfer strategy that has us where we are at the moment, because they tend to be on the upper end of the wage scale, no resale value and more prone to hitting injuries and/or losing their legs. A couple of bad signings of that ilk and things can quickly go very wrong financially. And we are effing tight financially right now! 
 

Not saying that’ll happen in this case, but 30+ on 3 years is always a bit more risky. So it’s a valid argument. 
 

For what it’s worth, I’m usually wholly against such deals, but knowing where we are at the moment and that we’ll really only be able to tap into free agents this summer, it’s as sensible a signing in a position of need as we’re likely to get. 

He also comes across as a winner and has that winning mentality, I at least love the fact we are getting the right 'types' of players in now and changing the mentality/culture overall. Hopefully a few more fans are seeing the bigger picture and longterm changes that are/were needed to happen, and why Pearson is the right person to do that. 

[KegCity]

9 hours ago, Harry said:

I think the 30+, 3 year contract is a valid argument. As I’ve said earlier, I think he’s a solid enough player and I don’t see many options in the left back slot this summer so it’s a sensible signing. 
Would I prefer he was 27 on a 3 year deal. Absolutely. I generally don’t like us giving 3 years to 30+ year olds. It’s the type of transfer strategy that has us where we are at the moment, because they tend to be on the upper end of the wage scale, no resale value and more prone to hitting injuries and/or losing their legs. A couple of bad signings of that ilk and things can quickly go very wrong financially. And we are effing tight financially right now! 
 

Not saying that’ll happen in this case, but 30+ on 3 years is always a bit more risky. So it’s a valid argument. 
 

For what it’s worth, I’m usually wholly against such deals, but knowing where we are at the moment and that we’ll really only be able to tap into free agents this summer, it’s as sensible a signing in a position of need as we’re likely to get. 

It’s hardly a Chris Brunt/Ashley Williams type signing though? Off the back of an excellent season, to me it’s low risk. If he was 29 and getting a 3 year deal the majority of people wouldn’t bat an eyelid.

Resale value is the only issue, but if wages are sensible and he can play like he did last season then we should be getting value for money on the pitch which makes it less of an issue.

[Lew-T]

 

 

 

[MelksRed]

11 hours ago, BCFC Richard said:

A bit salty on th eLuton forum  - referring to OTIB:

It’s a wankathon over there about Kal. A journeyman for most of his career. 18 months under NJ and his team and has one decent season in probably 12 as a pro and they think they’ve signed Rio Ferdinand. The team that took Bakinson and ruined him and I noticed O’Dowda who they signed ahead of us has now left on a free. 8th is their best ever season in the championship under the playoff system. A nothing club that’s won **** all and never will.

Still have YOUR player though

[Port Said Red]

10 hours ago, The Bard said:

New Rob Newman?

My first thought on seeing that list of positions played too.

I am however incredibly worried about this signing. 

Who knew that all it took to unite this board in unprecedented positivity was the signing of a 30 year old Scot from Luton Town, the worry is that when we agree collectively we don't have a great record on Managers or players.

Edited May 28, 2022 by Port Said Red

[Son of Fred]

6 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

My first thought on seeing that list of positions played too.

I am however incredibly worried about this signing. 

Who knew that all it took to unite this board in unprecedented positivity was the signing of a 30 year old Scot from Luton Town, the worry is that when we agree collectively we don't have a great record on Managers or players.

For me this is very much a "fingers crossed" signing..

[The Bard]

7 hours ago, Rebounder said:

https://smiworld.co.uk/team/

 

Few ex city and south west players there. 

Some blokes looking out of place in suits there..

Joe Burnell owes an estate agents. Based in Clifton. 

[sglosbcfc]

7 hours ago, Jerseybean said:

Random bit of info. In September 2010, Naismith and fellow Rangers player Kyle Hutton, were abducted in Edinburgh by two men and driven around the city in Hutton's car before they were dumped in the Niddrie area of Edinburgh. Naismith and Hutton were then mugged as the thieves stole the car. Later, both the thieves were convicted and prosecuted, and the car was retrieved.

That's a good night out in Scotland.

[RedZepperin]

53 minutes ago, sglosbcfc said:

That's a good night out in Scotland.

Edinburgh's version of the carpool karaoke.

[TheReds]

1 hour ago, KegCity said:

It’s hardly a Chris Brunt/Ashley Williams type signing though? Off the back of an excellent season, to me it’s low risk. If he was 29 and getting a 3 year deal the majority of people wouldn’t bat an eyelid.

Resale value is the only issue, but if wages are sensible and he can play like he did last season then we should be getting value for money on the pitch which makes it less of an issue.

Agree. Who else who has just had a great season like he has, is proven at this level, as versatile, seems to have the right attitude for Pearson, and is available for the same overall cost of Naismith?

[REDOXO]

Blimey. Supporters getting a bit upset about an out of contract player getting himself a better deal than was being offered somewhere else.  What’s that all about? Clearly there is a misconception of what loyalty can be expected if your organization isn’t offering the market value for your work? 

[CodeRed]

From Luton did arrive a Scot 

Who's wages do not cost a lot

On the first day of training

His hamstrings did spraining 

And all OTIB lost the plot

 

 

 

[RedorDead BCFC]

12 hours ago, The Gasbuster said:

To any Luton fan, stick this up your arse.

Poxy little club that plays in a shithole ground in a shithole town, who think their fans are something special

**** off back to non league and take that odious Welsh pixie manager of yours with you.

I’m sensing that you don’t have a lot of time for Luton. 

[Major Isewater]

16 minutes ago, CodeRed said:

From Luton did arrive a Scot 

Who's wages do not cost a lot

On the first day of training

His hamstrings did spraining 

And all OTIB lost the plot

 

 

 

You’re bard. 
 

 

 

 

Bar CodeRed. 

[Rudolf Hucker]

8 hours ago, Ska Junkie said:

To our Luton visitors, I mean absolutely no disrespect at all.

Kal has 3-4 years left, has upped his wages, moved to a club that had a bang up to date stadium, 20K regular home support and a brand new training centre which is state of the art ( your new stadium won't be ready in time for Kal), will be playing with his mate Williams in a stunning part of the country.

I appreciate Luton have won more than we ever have but, stadium including, we are ready in Kals available time frame, you won't be with all possible respect.

The other thing, he was free, not transferred from LTFC, that is NOT of our making.

See you next season!

Blimey Ska. You’re being very respectful. Are LTFC supporters holding your wife and kids hostage at gunpoint? Blink twice for ‘yes’. 

[Offside]

I know nothing about Kal Naismith other than what I’ve read on this thread, but he seems like a good signing - versatile, experienced and has played well in our league. It’s good to see us getting some business done early. 

[chinapig]

4 minutes ago, Offside said:

It’s good to see us getting some business done early. 

Apparently Nigel said he wanted deals done before the players report for fitness testing (10th June I think). A man of his word then.

[1960maaan]

It was worth signing him just to see the reaction of the Luton fans.

They really can't understand him leaving a top 6 club to come to little old City 

[Port Said Red]

If we sell Kalas now we have signed Kal, does that mean we have saved 40% like for like?

[cidercity1987]

Absolutely off their rockers on that forum, a play off finish has proper gone to their heads

[pl00peh91]

It’s actually got to the point where I couldn’t care less if he’s actually good for us or not, the reaction of the Luton fans and the wider EFL know it alls has made this signing worth it already. He doesn’t even need to play as far as I’m concerned 

[Bris Red]

1 minute ago, cidercity1987 said:

Absolutely off their rockers on that forum, a play off finish has proper gone to their heads

Mental isn’t it. A football club that was playing non-league football a little over 7 years ago and still have the facilities of a League 2/non-league club now calling us a ‘non-mark’ club 

I don’t think anyone gives a toss what they won in the late 80s. Its 2022 now and they get gates of 10 k a week in the most dated ground in the league.. As a football club they are an age behind us. Genuinely hope the cunts go down next season as League 1 is without a doubt their level!

 

[chinapig]

42 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

It was worth signing him just to see the reaction of the Luton fans.

They really can't understand him leaving a top 6 club to come to little old City 

They may find, as we did after getting to the play off final, that doing it again is not easy.

And if their average weekly wage is indeed £6k then there is bound to be a risk of losing players to other clubs. Their financial management has been very good but this is an inevitable consequence. Why are they surprised?

[sludge]

6 minutes ago, bris red said:

Mental isn’t it. A football club that was playing non-league football a little over 7 years ago and still have the facilities of a League 2/non-league club now calling us a ‘non-mark’ club 

I don’t think anyone gives a toss what they won in the late 80s. Its 2022 now and they get gates of 10 k a week in the most dated ground in the league.. As a football club they are an age behind us. Genuinely hope the cunts go down next season as League 1 is without a doubt their level!

 

Personally, i’m very tempted to stick a few quid on them ‘doing a barnsley’ next season. 

[Dodgy_Giefer]

This is a really good signing. It looks like Lee Matthews is his agent. Nice one Lee.

[GrahamC]

24 minutes ago, bris red said:

Mental isn’t it. A football club that was playing non-league football a little over 7 years ago and still have the facilities of a League 2/non-league club now calling us a ‘non-mark’ club 

I don’t think anyone gives a toss what they won in the late 80s. Its 2022 now and they get gates of 10 k a week in the most dated ground in the league.. As a football club they are an age behind us. Genuinely hope the cunts go down next season as League 1 is without a doubt their level!

 

This.

We haven’t even mentioned Nathan Jones (the most obnoxious manager in the division) or that prick Lockyer yet, either.

[REDOXO]

26 minutes ago, bris red said:

Mental isn’t it. A football club that was playing non-league football a little over 7 years ago and still have the facilities of a League 2/non-league club now calling us a ‘non-mark’ club 

I don’t think anyone gives a toss what they won in the late 80s. Its 2022 now and they get gates of 10 k a week in the most dated ground in the league.. As a football club they are an age behind us. Genuinely hope the cunts go down next season as League 1 is without a doubt their level!

 

Broke the sweat filter superbly there!

[downendcity]

4 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

Broke the sweat filter superbly there!

It had the mods perspiring!

[Norn Iron]

15 hours ago, The Bard said:

New Rob Newman?

Kal Naisbiff

[Sleepy1968]

37 minutes ago, chinapig said:

They may find, as we did after getting to the play off final, that doing it again is not easy.

And if their average weekly wage is indeed £6k then there is bound to be a risk of losing players to other clubs. Their financial management has been very good but this is an inevitable consequence. Why are they surprised?

Yeah, unfortunately this is what happens when you are a financially prudent football club. No wonder the game is broken.

[Rossi the Robin]

15 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said:

new merch! 

I like that t shirt. Had a look, not for sale at the moment

[E.G.Red]

15 hours ago, Bouncearoundtheground said:

Great singing but let’s be honest, he wasn’t getting a 3 year deal anywhere else.

did we get him for a song?

[JoeAman08]

I don’t know much about him but seems a good signing. 
 

On age, 30 does not bother me. Hell neither does 35(not a 3 year deal though). I think for players in their 30s you have to look at their track record and how they take care of their body. Zlatan, Ronaldo, Lebron James and Tom Brady are all extreme examples but examples nonetheless. If you are committed to the sport full time, means now during off season or at home on own, you can play into your late 30s easily. The athletes I mentioned maybe started slowing in their mid 30s and by slowing it means for their standards. 30 is not old in professional sports anymore.
 

Obviously it is case by case though.  Andy King an example. He has been riddled with injuries most his career. Same with James. These are riskier signing in my eyes. KN I am not sure if he has had any major injuries. Looks like he has played a majority of games the last few seasons. He seems very serious about his profession. Not sure how risky this is considering that. 

[Red-Robbo]

19 minutes ago, E.G.Red said:

did we get him for a song?

 

Yep. I like the tenor of this signing. He can opera all over the pitch, even be a falsetto number 9. 

Ballads to those Luton fans. They aren't singing any more. 

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

This.

We haven’t even mentioned Nathan Jones (the most obnoxious manager in the division) or that ***** Lockyer yet, either.

I’m slightly torn on Luton because of Big Mick Harford and Jay Socik (Blades Analytics)…but Jones tips the balance against them.

[The Coach]

Nice to see us doing business early for once 

[ExiledAjax]

2 hours ago, cidercity1987 said:

Absolutely off their rockers on that forum, a play off finish has proper gone to their heads

Naismith not renewing with them and coming to us must just remind them of their actual position in the hierarchy. That must irk them after a season of being told how special their club is.

The real world can hit hard sometimes.

[Ska Junkie]

3 hours ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

Blimey Ska. You’re being very respectful. Are LTFC supporters holding your wife and kids hostage at gunpoint? Blink twice for ‘yes’. 

It's the new more demure Ska Rudi. It won't last mind.

If they held my Mrs at gunpoint, at least I would get all the bed, every cloud eh.

[Port Said Red]

11 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

It's the new more demure Ska Rudi. It won't last mind.

If they held my Mrs at gunpoint, at least I would get all the bed, every cloud eh.

Enjoy Ska.

[Clevedon Red]

Seems as though Luton weren’t aware he was coming to us…

 

We have learnt that Kal Naismith has agreed to join Bristol City when his Luton Town contract comes to an end next month.

We were surprised to discover from our fellow Championship club’s announcement, without advance warning as is the usual etiquette, that the 30-year-old has rejected the opportunity of a new contract at Kenilworth Road.

The Scot joined the Hatters as a free agent after departing Wigan Athletic in January 2021, and leaves with a total of three goals from 68 appearances, including 45 last season while winning two player of the year awards as Town reached the play-offs.

Edited May 28, 2022 by Clevedon Red

[RedRoss]

Luton were surprised he'd signed for us:

https://www.lutontown.co.uk/news/2022/may/kal-naismith-bristol/

I'm glad were more ruthless and aggressive with transfers. Every club is looking for an edge so why not. 

[Slippin cider]

Missed this , welcome Kal …good signing …

[!james]

[B1ackbird]

"**** o** Luton Town ( you *****), you are going down.

Kal said no, no ,no..."

 

Ok I plagiarized most of it...

Edited May 28, 2022 by B1ackbird

[pillred]

18 hours ago, Clevedon Red said:

Nketiah…..you heard it here first.

Well it certainly wouldn't be last :laugh:.