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1 hour ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Eight years ago today i took this photo In the East End. Don't remember the game but it means a lot to me. Lots of faces here. I miss it a lot. COYR

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Last game in the Eastend against Crewe (0-0), but it wasn’t 8 years ago today mate. 
This was one week before the end of the season which finished on May 3rd.

 

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16 minutes ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

Last game in the Eastend against Crewe (0-0), but it wasn’t 8 years ago today mate. 
This was one week before the end of the season which finished on May 3rd.

 

Think that was the same day Rovers secured their league status away at wycombe.

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10 hours ago, WolfOfWestStreet said:

Fair enough. Facebook is lying to me ?

If it came up as a ‘memory’ it just means you posted it on this day 8 years ago. I don’t remember any events after the end of the season that allowed fans back in to the stand BUT I could be wrong. I thought work started quite soon after the final game....could be that they started tearing it down on the 2nd June? 

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Great picture and I used to love being in the EE for the atmosphere but the rest of the stadiums atmosphere died as soon as the club opened the EE to home fans again.

Obviously the facilities were worse than bad but that's not really why I go to football.

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2 minutes ago, chinapig said:

When the Gas open their impressive new stadium (in August I believe) I wonder how long it will be before they get all nostalgic for the good old days of tents??

Looking at most of their fans they’re already very nostalgic for the 70s judging by their clothes, hairstyles and attitude towards ethnic minorities.

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3 minutes ago, Tin Soldier said:

Great pic, good memories of the old ground. Much preferred to the soulless ground today. But that’s progress apparently.

What has soul? The ground or the people in it? How many times was it really like that in the last 20 years of it existence? I still think that the Man Utd game was the best atmosphere I can remember since the 70's. I don't think it would have been bettered by crumbling masonry and the stink of urine from toilet block.

If Pearson can get the team playing, the atmosphere will ramp up accordingly.

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24 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

What has soul? The ground or the people in it? How many times was it really like that in the last 20 years of it existence? I still think that the Man Utd game was the best atmosphere I can remember since the 70's. I don't think it would have been bettered by crumbling masonry and the stink of urine from toilet block.

If Pearson can get the team playing, the atmosphere will ramp up accordingly.

This. I loved being in the EE in the seventies and eighties with the atmosphere, the edge and sense of danger that it had and the memories I have but in truth it was a terrible place with rain pouring through the many holes in the roof and piss up to your ankles.

I`m glad I experienced it - it was a rite of passage for those of us of a certain age - but I wouldn`t want to go back to it now.

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1 hour ago, Port Said Red said:

What has soul? The ground or the people in it?

Both I'd say. I'd compare the old Gate and East End to my family home which my parents moved into when I was 6 months old and was finally sold 55 years later.

No mod cons, central heating, double glazing etc for many years, roof not so good, freezing first thing in the morning in the Winter but it was gradually updated and became more comfortable and though daily life, like football matches, was often mundane, so many great occasions and memories there.

Even after I left home I went back to see my parents probably once a week so the old house was always there. Every visit was going home in the true sense of the word just like the old Ashton Gate, with all it's memories, was my home in a football sense.

Home is where the heart is and as comfortably functional as the new stadium may be, my heart remains in the memory of the turnstiles, concrete steps, crush barriers, tiny snack bars, floodlight pylons, dodgy roof, and even the very basic toilets of the stadium which first made me fall in love with Bristol City F.C.

I miss it.

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7 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

Both I'd say. I'd compare the old Gate and East End to my family home which my parents moved into when I was 6 months old and was finally sold 55 years later.

No mod cons, central heating, double glazing etc for many years, roof not so good, freezing first thing in the morning in the Winter but it was gradually updated and became more comfortable and though daily life, like football matches, was often mundane, so many great occasions and memories there.

Even after I left home I went back to see my parents probably once a week so the old house was always there. Every visit was going home in the true sense of the word just like the old Ashton Gate, with all it's memories, was my home in a football sense.

Home is where the heart is and as comfortably functional as the new stadium may be, my heart remains in the memory of the turnstiles, concrete steps, crush barriers, tiny snack bars, floodlight pylons, dodgy roof, and even the very basic toilets of the stadium which first made me fall in love with Bristol City F.C.

I miss it.

Oh well. There are many things I miss from across my 60 years, my memories of being in the old East end are still there but I don't feel it was instrumental in the creation of them. I know it's not coming back and I want to see new memories created in this stadium, like that United game and a few others

I feel a bit of pride when people who have attended a variety of events at the new stadium, praise it highly, something that would never have happened the way it was.

The creation of the new ground was necessary and vital for our future, you only have to look up to the north of the city to see that there is only one way old stadiums go. No matter how much you make do and mend the infrastructure, you are generally throwing money into a pit.

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3 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

What has soul? The ground or the people in it? How many times was it really like that in the last 20 years of it existence? I still think that the Man Utd game was the best atmosphere I can remember since the 70's. I don't think it would have been bettered by crumbling masonry and the stink of urine from toilet block.

If Pearson can get the team playing, the atmosphere will ramp up accordingly.

Grounds that have “soul” today are grounds linke Goodson, Elland road, etc. AG is like a library most games. Too many happy clappers nowadays, and as others have stated, no needle. Miss the atmosphere of the old East End, the Dolman B Block, or the enclosure. And let’s not forget the old Park End.

What has the new ground got?

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46 minutes ago, Tin Soldier said:

Grounds that have “soul” today are grounds linke Goodson, Elland road, etc. AG is like a library most games. Too many happy clappers nowadays, and as others have stated, no needle. Miss the atmosphere of the old East End, the Dolman B Block, or the enclosure. And let’s not forget the old Park End.

What has the new ground got?

Agreed . Has nothing to do with the stadium it’s down to the fans to make the noise . Teams like Leeds make noise no matter how bad  their playing and even if they moved ground the noise wouldn’t change . 
 

The cosy nature of the club over the last few years has completely sucked out the atmosphere.

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In the 50+ years (gulp) following this Club the playing side has under-achieved, sometimes massively. Wouldn’t have wished though to have supported another Club, primary reason being the Ashton Gate experience, both in its past and current guise. 

The old stadium was brilliant, the East End, Park End, Grandstand Paddock, Dolman A. Few Clubs could you have done a complete circuit of the Ground over decades and stood, sat amongst the most passionate, colourful characters. Ever changing, sometimes moody, edgy but always lively and fun. 

Suppose getting older, you mellow so the new stadium fits my needs now and is something for us and Bristol to be proud of. 

The stadium’s been superb, but so has the entire area which contributes to the great match day experience. The pubs - sadly many gone - Ship and Castle, Wedlocks but now replaced by the pub crawl along the docks … the park, the cricket club, the side streets and The Cut all part of the rich tapestry of match day. 
 

Brilliant. If only we had delivered a team to match. Hopefully, Nige will deliver.

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Going down the memory lane route . I remember watching matches on The Marsh (very aptly named) on Winterstoke Rd on the way to matches many years ago, indeed I played there myself on occasions. Missed ko in the ground a few times if the match was really good. 

What an atmosphere there was at the Gate with the old stands. I suppose its progress but something was lost with the redevelopment.

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6 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

What has soul? The ground or the people in it? How many times was it really like that in the last 20 years of it existence? I still think that the Man Utd game was the best atmosphere I can remember since the 70's. I don't think it would have been bettered by crumbling masonry and the stink of urine from toilet block.

If Pearson can get the team playing, the atmosphere will ramp up accordingly.

Fingers crossed we'll soon have the whole ground rocking. With the exception of the United game we've struggled to get any meaningful atmosphere since all the singers got put into one small area.

I don't miss the East End itself, but being amongst the atmosphere of it was great.

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3 minutes ago, archie andrews said:

No one ever took the east end..... Did they? 

There have been moments, West Ham got a fair few in there when we played West Ham in the old First division.

I’ve seen Leeds in numbers. 

What does ‘ taking ‘ the East end mean.? Kicking out all the City fans? 
 

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14 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

There have been moments, West Ham got a fair few in there when we played West Ham in the old First division.

I’ve seen Leeds in numbers. 

What does ‘ taking ‘ the East end mean.? Kicking out all the City fans? 
 

West Ham was the most I can remember. I suppose `taking it` is getting to behind the goal and staying there.

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35 minutes ago, archie andrews said:

Remember about 20 pompey getting over the fence between enclosure and east end circ 82...

 

17 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

Very early, though. Before 2pm. Barely anyone in there. Bit like going to Millwall on a Thursday.

Now I think about it, it was 2:10pm. Still early enough to avoid a proper "reception" and get an escort to the away end.

Crowds were about 5 or 6000 then, so most rocked up about 2:50/2:55.

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23 hours ago, Trueredsupporter said:

Stood just out of shot of that pic with my kids. end of an era for me and in particular because my family more or less has no interest in City at the new ashton gate.

exactly this, took my kids as well; visits to the pubs around were part of a day at the footie, now its part of something else, will be a long time before I`m even tempted to return ?

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Think there's a fair bit of nostalgia bias in this thread. The old AG was a sh*thole and in dire need of renovation. The 'new' AG is a big upgrade.

I appreciate the atmosphere hasn't been great at times over the last few years, but let's be honest, that's due to the fans, not the stadium itself (and yes, I agree that the general club culture perhaps hasn't helped either).

It's also worth remembering that the renovated stadium has played a big part in improving our revenues and making us a more attractive proposition to players and managers. It's not just an aesthetic change, the new AG literally makes us a bigger and better club.

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IIRC Spurs got in and couldn't be shifted despite many attempts.

Can't think of any others that stayed half the game.

As for Leeds - they got picked off one by one going through the turnstiles when they failed to force open the metal gates.

I do wonder to this day who has the coppers helmet that did the rounds of the EE for the rest of the game!

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I used to love standing in the East End as a teenager in the late 80s. These two pics (versus Swindle in the cup) are how I remember it.

It was never the same after seats were put in, but I’m glad the EE had a renaissance before it was demolished. 

FWIW I think the redeveloped AG is fantastic as well. The game v Man Utd was as good an atmosphere I have experienced at the ground. We’ve had a couple of difficult years but surely there are good times ahead. 
 

 

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14 hours ago, Supersonic Robin said:

 

I appreciate the atmosphere hasn't been great at times over the last few years, but let's be honest, that's due to the fans, not the stadium itself 

Exciting football helps. The ball being in the penalty area - ideally, the opposition's penalty area - helps. Shots on goal help. It might not be sophisticated but someone "bombing on" down the left and right and whipping it in the box between the retreating defenders and goalkeeper - this sort of thing helps with rousing a passive audience from their seats and their slumber and their apathy. And their phones.

Neat passing sideways and back in the middle of the pitch doesn't help.

 

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14 hours ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Think there's a fair bit of nostalgia bias in this thread. The old AG was a sh*thole and in dire need of renovation. The 'new' AG is a big upgrade.

I appreciate the atmosphere hasn't been great at times over the last few years, but let's be honest, that's due to the fans, not the stadium itself (and yes, I agree that the general club culture perhaps hasn't helped either).

It's also worth remembering that the renovated stadium has played a big part in improving our revenues and making us a more attractive proposition to players and managers. It's not just an aesthetic change, the new AG literally makes us a bigger and better club.

We got a new fanbase when the East End got knocked down?

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48 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

Exciting football helps. The ball being in the penalty area - ideally, the opposition's penalty area - helps. Shots on goal help. It might not be sophisticated but someone "bombing on" down the left and right and whipping it in the box between the retreating defenders and goalkeeper - this sort of thing helps with rousing a passive audience from their seats and their slumber and their apathy. And their phones.

Neat passing sideways and back in the middle of the pitch doesn't help.

 

Yepp, agree. It's not about blaming our fans - I'm just pointing out that the stadium itself isn't the reason for a lackluster atmosphere.

45 minutes ago, KegCity said:

We got a new fanbase when the East End got knocked down?

Obviously not, but we've seen that you can still generate a great atmosphere in the new AG (e.g. Man United game). It goes without saying, but the main factor behind the atmosphere will always be the extent to which fans get behind the team. That's not to say our fans are bad. As above, there are other factors at play.

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The new stadium absolutely is part of the lacklustre atmosphere. You can't disturb the spatial practice of fans and expect them to behave in exactly the same way. The club aren't helping either. 

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25 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said:

The new stadium absolutely is part of the lacklustre atmosphere. You can't disturb the spatial practice of fans and expect them to behave in exactly the same way. The club aren't helping either. 

Agree, the rebuild should have seen City fans behind both goals, and switch the bloody lights down in the stands for night games.

The so-called 'special Ashton Gate atmosphere under the lights' has been completely killed off.

 

 

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On 03/06/2022 at 13:14, Tin Soldier said:

Grounds that have “soul” today are grounds linke Goodson, Elland road, etc. AG is like a library most games. Too many happy clappers nowadays, and as others have stated, no needle. Miss the atmosphere of the old East End, the Dolman B Block, or the enclosure. And let’s not forget the old Park End.

What has the new ground got?

Whats BSportAG8 got.

Overpriced grub and more of it.

More leg space.

Better shiny crappers,

Now lets look at that critically.

Its better for people who eat loads and more comfortable to doze it off and easier to get in the crapper when they need it.

Its better for those on higher incomes.

They can afford stuff more to stuff more.

Whats else has it got?

Atmoss like Reading.

And that was once an insult.

Now its progress.

The EE going was the tide coming back in on a culture.

 

 

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On 05/06/2022 at 13:45, Sixtyseconds said:

Whats BSportAG8 got.

Overpriced grub and more of it.

More leg space.

Better shiny crappers,

Now lets look at that critically.

Its better for people who eat loads and more comfortable to doze it off and easier to get in the crapper when they need it.

Its better for those on higher incomes.

They can afford stuff more to stuff more.

Whats else has it got?

Atmoss like Reading.

And that was once an insult.

Now its progress.

The EE going was the tide coming back in on a culture.

 

 

That’s progress apparently.

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