Gregor McGregor - Lee Johnson Interview (Merged)

[AshtonRobin21]

34 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

He was hoping it would’ve gone live by now, but it’s not a Bristol World article, so out of his control.

No, not teasing, just don’t think it’s my place to say who.  If you DM him on Twitter I’m sure he will tell you.

Without naming who, is the interview something we should all have a keen interest in? 

[Davefevs]

5 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

Without naming who, is the interview something we should all have a keen interest in? 

Yes.

[Merrick's Marvels]

My money's on Baker. 

[GrahamC]

4 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

My money's on Baker. 

That’s a really good shout, hadn’t occurred to me but makes a lot of sense.

[The Bard]

16 hours ago, YGBjammy said:

Skim read this thread; is Gregor's interview with Boris Johnson? Or did Gregor get sacked from the Times? I'm confused.

Gregor interviewing the current Prime Minister?  That would be 2 peas in a pod. A mumbling incoherent series of non-answers to some non-questions.

[The Bard]

1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

My money's on Baker. 

That would make sense.  Despite my insults he may get some traction from it too given the gradual recognition of issues around concussion  etc.

[Davefevs]

Just saying

[PHILINFRANCE]

12 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Just saying

You big tease .

[Davefevs]

5 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

You big tease .

Sorry!

[Monkeh]

5 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Sorry!

Are you saying roydaalien is gmcg?

[Davefevs]

4 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

Are you saying roydaalien is gmcg?

No, I was joking that he was the mysterious interviewee.

[1960maaan]

12 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

Are you saying roydaalien is gmcg?

 

7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

No, I was joking that he was the mysterious interviewee.

Well Roy has been quiet, and GMcG has not been around as much, so ............. 

[Lanterne Rouge]

6 hours ago, 1960maaan said:

 

Well Roy has been quiet, and GMcG has not been around as much, so ............. 

All the evidence I need.

Reveal yourself Gregor!

[Monkeh]

The longer this goes on the more I'm convinced there is no interview and it's simply designed as click bait to get you on that god awful bristol world website

[Davefevs]

2 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

The longer this goes on the more I'm convinced there is no interview and it's simply designed as click bait to get you on that god awful bristol world website

The interview isn’t going into Bristol World.

Edited June 13, 2022 by Davefevs

[P'head Red]

41 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

The interview isn’t going into Bristol World.

I'm assuming it's the times then? 

[Clevedon Red]

1 hour ago, P'head Red said:

I'm assuming it's the times then? 

TV Times?

[Davefevs]

2 minutes ago, Clevedon Red said:

TV Times?

Does it still have the “For Mash get Smash” robots advertising Pontins on the back cover?

[Clevedon Red]

6 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Does it still have the “For Mash get Smash” robots advertising Pontins on the back cover?

That looks like one of our old heads of

[And Its Smith]

It’s everyone’s favourite manager, Lee Johnson.  Some of it has been published with a bit more to come. As always, Lee speaks with humility and charm. 

[glynriley]

5 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

It’s everyone’s favourite manager, Lee Johnson.  Some of it has been published with a bit more to come. As always, Lee speaks with humility and charm. 

and bullshit...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61757947

"Andi Weimann - we signed him for £1.5 million as a wide player and turned him into a nine and a half, and this year, he's scored 22 goals and assists as well. I'm delighted for him."

[GrahamC]

1 minute ago, glynriley said:

and bullshit...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61757947

"Andi Weimann - we signed him for £1.5 million as a wide player and turned him into a nine and a half, and this year, he's scored 22 goals and assists as well. I'm delighted for him."

Amazing that he doesn’t mention Engvall, Palmer, Walsh, Watkins, Adelakun, etc, etc, etc, isn’t it?

[SBB]

Well that’s a bit of an anti-climax. Hopefully Weimann has been sending LJ 50% of his goal bonuses each month.

[P'head Red]

9 minutes ago, SBB said:

Well that’s a bit of an anti-climax. Hopefully Weimann has been sending LJ 50% of his goal bonuses each month.

Have to agree. Was expecting something more after all the suspense!

[cidered abroad]

40 minutes ago, glynriley said:

and bullshit...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61757947

"Andi Weimann - we signed him for £1.5 million as a wide player and turned him into a nine and a half, and this year, he's scored 22 goals and assists as well. I'm delighted for him."

He appears to be claiming the glory for Weimann's goal scoring last season.

Usual bullshit whenever he opens his mouth.

[And Its Smith]

42 minutes ago, glynriley said:

and bullshit...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61757947

"Andi Weimann - we signed him for £1.5 million as a wide player and turned him into a nine and a half, and this year, he's scored 22 goals and assists as well. I'm delighted for him."

What part of that is untrue? 

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

I don’t understand all the animosity towards Lee.  I was watching the highlights of the Man Utd match the other day (as you do) and I can’t find it in me to criticise someone who gave us that.  Ok, things didn’t work out, but it’s quite clear that he has Bristol City at heart.  Good luck to the bloke.

[ScottishRed]

Just read it.

He is right Scottish football is very much a goldfish bowl, but to suggest that the top 6 or 7 in the SPL would thrive in the Championship is utter nonsense.

As I mentioned when he got the Hibs job he is going to be comedy gold up their with the media with every word scrutinized by fans of all clubs. 

The reality is that Hibs and Hearts are the 3/4 th biggest clubs in Scotland but in reality their fans don’t expect a real league challenge for obvious reasons BUT they do expect to be 3rd or 4th in the league,decent cup runs and European qualification - that is his challenge.

Edited June 18, 2022 by ScottishRed

[And Its Smith]

2 minutes ago, ScottishRed said:

Just read it.

He is right Scottish football is very much a goldfish bowl, but to suggest that the top 6 or 7 in the SPL would thrive in the Championship is utter nonsense.

As I mentioned when he got the Hibs job he is going to be comedy gold up their with the media with every word scrutinized by fans of all clubs. 

The reality is that Hibs and Hearts are the 3/4 th biggest clubs in Scotland but in reality their fans don’t expect a real league challenge for obvious reasons BUT they do expect to be 3rd or 4th in the league,decent cup runs and European qualification - that is his challenge.

If he’s asked the question and he’s just got a job in Scottish football, he’s unlikely to say that it’s a league one level. 

[glynriley]

4 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

What part of that is untrue? 

Where do you think he played Weimann most of the time?

[chinapig]

4 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

What part of that is untrue? 

Possibly because he invariably played him on the right and not as a nine and a half?

[downendcity]

53 minutes ago, glynriley said:

and bullshit...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61757947

"Andi Weimann - we signed him for £1.5 million as a wide player and turned him into a nine and a half, and this year, he's scored 22 goals and assists as well. I'm delighted for him."

 

51 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Amazing that he doesn’t mention Engvall, Palmer, Walsh, Watkins, Adelakun, etc, etc, etc, isn’t it?

We turned all of those into one and a halves.

[SBB]

27 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

I don’t understand all the animosity towards Lee.  I was watching the highlights of the Man Utd match the other day (as you do) and I can’t find it in me to criticise someone who gave us that.  Ok, things didn’t work out, but it’s quite clear that he has Bristol City at heart.  Good luck to the bloke.

When he comes out and try’s to piggy back on someone else’s success, 2 years down the line claiming he had a part to play. I personally don’t hate the guy, he just talks a lot of nonsense. 

[!james]

Could be a new torture technique used by the government. Put someone in a room with LJ and Mark Ashton, tell them to talk through their achievements. No one would last 5 minutes... 

[bpexile]

55 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

I don’t understand all the animosity towards Lee.  I was watching the highlights of the Man Utd match the other day (as you do) and I can’t find it in me to criticise someone who gave us that.  Ok, things didn’t work out, but it’s quite clear that he has Bristol City at heart.  Good luck to the bloke.

I've mentioned a few times to mates that I thought we had LJ too early in his coaching career.  I still think he will achieve, a shame it wasn't with us as the guy is City through & through.

He did talk a load of bollocks though didn't he ? 

[sglosbcfc]

Lee Johnson: On Hibernian, Sunderland and fondness for Bristol City - BBC Sport

 

Hope he does well at Hibs, huge club by Scottish standards and a real opportunity to win a cup and take them into European Competition with Scotland now getting 5 places.

[22A]

Saturday 3rd September; Hibbs (Johnson) v Kilmarnock (McInnes).

12th November the reverse fixture, 18th Feb the third fixture (at Hiibs)

[Robbored]

5 minutes ago, bpexile said:

I've mentioned a few times to mates that I thought we had LJ too early in his coaching career.  I still think he will achieve, a shame it wasn't with us as the guy is City through & through.

He did talk a load of bollocks though didn't he ? 

He certainly is City through and through but because he talks a load of bollocks he’ll never become a top manager. He’s already achieved the best level he’ll ever reach - just like his father.

He eventually regressed into a clone of his dad……….. and that’s sad in many ways.

[downendcity]

11 minutes ago, bpexile said:

I've mentioned a few times to mates that I thought we had LJ too early in his coaching career.  I still think he will achieve, a shame it wasn't with us as the guy is City through & through.

He did talk a load of bollocks though didn't he ? 

So much that he could have been a poster on here - as could Mark Ashton!

 

[YGBjammy]

"The top six, seven teams are as good as any that you'll find, certainly in the Championship."

give me strength

 

[bcfc01]

2 minutes ago, YGBjammy said:

"The top six, seven teams are as good as any that you'll find, certainly in the Championship."

give me strength

 

I mostly agree with him, not sure about 6 or 7 though - maybe the top 5, Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen, Hearts, and Hibs.

 

 

[cityloyal473]

27 minutes ago, YGBjammy said:

"The top six, seven teams are as good as any that you'll find, certainly in the Championship."

give me strength

 

Yep. Absolute horse shit from a waffler. Celtic and Rangers would survive and eventually flourish in the championship by force of personality. The rest of them forget it. 

[cityloyal473]

43 minutes ago, bpexile said:

I've mentioned a few times to mates that I thought we had LJ too early in his coaching career.  I still think he will achieve, a shame it wasn't with us as the guy is City through & through.

He did talk a load of bollocks though didn't he ? 

One day he’ll “achieve” something. And he will. Then he’ll go onto “bigger and better things” and be found wanting again.  

[GrahamC]

19 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

I mostly agree with him, not sure about 6 or 7 though - maybe the top 5, Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen, Hearts, and Hibs.

 

 

Seriously?

Aside from the big two, clubs up there pay L1 wages for L1 players.

Marley Watkins & Taylor Moore were at Aberdeen & Hearts last season.

[cityloyal473]

1 hour ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

I don’t understand all the animosity towards Lee.  I was watching the highlights of the Man Utd match the other day (as you do) and I can’t find it in me to criticise someone who gave us that.  Ok, things didn’t work out, but it’s quite clear that he has Bristol City at heart.  Good luck to the bloke.

I’ve got Bristol city at heart too but it doesn’t make me Pep Guardiola.  Russel Osman gave us an away win at Liverpool. Joe Jordan got us a goalpost away from a league cup final. 
 

Edited June 18, 2022 by cityloyal473

[cityloyal473]

2 hours ago, glynriley said:

and bullshit...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61757947

"Andi Weimann - we signed him for £1.5 million as a wide player and turned him into a nine and a half, and this year, he's scored 22 goals and assists as well. I'm delighted for him."

Jesus wept. 

[Robbored]

21 minutes ago, cityloyal473 said:

Jesus wept. 

I thought Nige turned AW into a 8 or 10?………….

[bcfc01]

20 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Seriously?

Aside from the big two, clubs up there pay L1 wages for L1 players.

Marley Watkins & Taylor Moore were at Aberdeen & Hearts last season.

Taylor Moore played 60 games for us.

Marley Watkins has played 93 Championship games.

I rate both of them - both good enough for the Championship.

As to the money, players are over rated and over paid in England imo.

Not sure what your point is tbh other than a different opinion to me.

 

[GrahamC]

1 minute ago, bcfc01 said:

Taylor Moore played 60 games for us.

Marley Watkins has played 93 Championship games.

I rate both of them - both good enough for the Championship.

As to the money, players are over rated and over paid in England imo.

Not sure what your point is tbh other than a different opinion to me.

 

Neither of them are remotely Championship standard.

Watkins has had 1 good season at Barnsley at this level in his entire career, Moore has been with us 6 seasons & has never established himself as Championship standard.

I’ll happily bet you £20 that his next permanent team is below that level.

You’re right, it is an opinion but thinking Scottish football outside the old firm is Championship standard is certainly a minority one.

[189thoughts]

This is not meant to be a comment that is negative about LJ because I dislike the guy, but I find it odd that he is able to look at his time at Sunderland, despite those huge defeats, and think there are no lessons to be learnt there.

[ScottishRed]

29 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Seriously?

Aside from the big two, clubs up there pay L1 wages for L1 players.

Marley Watkins & Taylor Moore were at Aberdeen & Hearts last season.

Agreed.

Put the top 6 or 7 into the Championship and apart from the bigot brothers the rest would truly struggle.

I would see the bigot brothers troubling the top six but not the auto places.

Even with their huge season ticket numbers they could not compete with the parachute payment clubs.

Interestingly, put them in the EPL and all the wealth that goes with it, which would fund a huge player upgrade and they would probably survive and eventually thrive. Obviously never going to happen and nor should it.

[cityloyal473]

1 minute ago, ScottishRed said:

Agreed.

Put the top 6 or 7 into the Championship and apart from the bigot brothers the rest would truly struggle.

I would see the bigot brothers troubling the top six but not the auto places.

Even with their huge season ticket numbers they could not compete with the parachute payment clubs.

Interestingly, put them in the EPL and all the wealth that goes with it, which would fund a huge player upgrade and they would probably survive and eventually thrive. Obviously never going to happen and nor should it.

Rangers and Celtic should never be ‘put’ in either of the leagues you mention. Start at the bottom and work their way up. They won’t ever do that so it’s a moot point.  And to be honest, Celtic can piss off to the Irish league if they fancy a change. They are no way compatible with English leagues. 

[Pezo]

I still think he is a good coach (which is what we employed him as), not a good manager. I'm convinced now that having MA here as his leadership and direction setter was what went wrong.

I wouldn't mind him back here (not yet) as long as NP or equal character was his manager. He is the sort that can get and extra 5% out of everyone if he works hard, NP gets people to take responsibility for getting 5% out of themselves - between them they would either complement each other quiet well if LJ toed the line or it would completely fall to pieces with divergent philosophies.

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

He certainly is City through and through but because he talks a load of bollocks he’ll never become a top manager. He’s already achieved the best level he’ll ever reach - just like his father.

He eventually regressed into a clone of his dad……….. and that’s sad in many ways.

I don’t remember his dad talking what you describe a ‘a load of bollocks’.  Quite the opposite in fact.

Edited June 18, 2022 by The Dolman Pragmatist

[cityloyal473]

19 minutes ago, Pezo said:

I still think he is a good coach (which is what we employed him as), not a good manager. I'm convinced now that having MA here as his leadership and direction setter was what went wrong.

I wouldn't mind him back here (not yet) as long as NP or equal character was his manager. He is the sort that can get and extra 5% out of everyone if he works hard, NP gets people to take responsibility for getting 5% out of themselves - between them they would either complement each other quiet well if LJ toed the line or it would completely fall to pieces with divergent philosophies.

There’s an element of truth on this. Nice guy but he just doesn’t  know what he’s supposed to be. Tried to be a jack of all trade at city and he’s not. Speaks the same language wherever he goes. Just concentrate on what he’s good on. Forget the rest of the fluff. He might do alright if he focuses on his strengths. 

[tin]

3 hours ago, glynriley said:

and bullshit...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61757947

"Andi Weimann - we signed him for £1.5 million as a wide player and turned him into a nine and a half, and this year, he's scored 22 goals and assists as well. I'm delighted for him."

That struck a chord with me. How can he take credit for turning Weimann into a 9.5 when a) Weimann started his career playing through the middle, b) he rarely played him through the middle, and c) when he did, his tactic was to lump it long. 

Usual bullshit from the second biggest bullshit merchant we’ve had at the club. 

[bcfc01]

22 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Neither of them are remotely Championship standard.

Watkins has had 1 good season at Barnsley at this level in his entire career, Moore has been with us 6 seasons & has never established himself as Championship standard.

I’ll happily bet you £20 that his next permanent team is below that level.

You’re right, it is an opinion but thinking Scottish football outside the old firm is Championship standard is certainly a minority one.

I didn't say that Scottish football outside the old firm is Championship standard, that would be ridiculous.

I said that Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs are up to it (certainly the first two).

Its a pity that we don't play the Anglo-Scottish ties anymore.

FWIW, the Championship is vastly over rated by a lot of people imo.

 

[downendcity]

23 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

I don’t remember his dad talking what you describe a ‘a load of bollocks’.  Quite the opposite in fact.

That's only because you weren't in GJ's office to hear the "load of bollocks" he unleashed at RR! 

[cityloyal473]

7 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

 

FWIW, the Championship is vastly over rated by a lot of people imo.

 

That goes for a lot of English football IMHO.

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

LJ should show his love for City by permanently signing Bakinson, Vyner and Moore for Hibs. 

[Red Army 75]

I wish him well. No bad feelings from me. My only regret was we should of sacked him after the Forest 1-0 game IMO. 

[bcfc01]

49 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

LJ should show his love for City by permanently signing Bakinson, Vyner and Moore for Hibs. 

Many a true word...

[samo II]

2 hours ago, Red Army 75 said:

I wish him well. No bad feelings from me. My only regret was we should of sacked him after the Forest 1-0 game IMO. 

I agree with this.

He wasn’t the worst, he wasn’t the best, and he overstayed his welcome.

Some of his teams played good football, were fun to watch, and gave us some decent runs; some of his teams were trash.

The Andi comment is funny because, yes; LJ didn’t really use him as he should, so him taking credit is silly. But people making that some kind of big meaningful thing about his time here isn’t it.

He’ll probably do okay at Hibs; like others say, the standard is wildly uneven up there, even player-to-player in the same team, so if he gets a bit of luck and has learnt a few lessons, might be able to crave out some results.

[cidered abroad]

He might be a reasonable coach but his biggest failing is the same as his father.

His man management is poor and additionally he is too fond of throwing his players under the nearest bus.

 

[Red Exile]

1 hour ago, cidered abroad said:

He might be a reasonable coach but his biggest failing is the same as his father.

His man management is poor and additionally he is too fond of throwing his players under the nearest bus.

 

I don’t see much connection between the two - other than the obvious familial one!

Whatever else he may have been GJ was a proven winner. Multiple promotions at almost every level. Brilliant at getting a tune out of often quite limited players. Not so good with others. His son, despite opportunities his dad never had - money vs loose change - Sunderland vs Yeovil & Torquay - has won diddly squat, zero promotions in a managerial career of hundreds of matches. GJ was a giant in comparison. 

Personally I loved GJ’s time with us. Could forgive him a great deal. 

Edited June 18, 2022 by Red Exile

[petehinton]

4 hours ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

LJ should show his love for City by permanently signing Bakinson, Vyner and Moore for Hibs. 

I think hell would freeze over before Taylor Moore ever played for LJ again..!

[Street red]

6 hours ago, bpexile said:

I've mentioned a few times to mates that I thought we had LJ too early in his coaching career.  I still think he will achieve, a shame it wasn't with us as the guy is City through & through.

He did talk a load of bollocks though didn't he ? 

That's part of the problem with Johnson everything to do with city was with his heart and he loves the club blah blah he's a manager and needs to get over it.. Yes he did talk bollocks and by the sounds of it still does  

[Robbored]

5 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

I don’t remember his dad talking what you describe a ‘a load of bollocks’.  Quite the opposite in fact.

If you ever listened properly to a GJ interview he actually talked a lot, laughed at his own jokes but said nothing meaningful at all.

What LJ did was talk a load a bollocks thinking that we’d all be able impressed with his knowledge of the game.

As for becoming a clone of his father I was referring to him playing some decent stuff when he was first appointed but gradually over time he started producing the same dreary shite that his dad had. 

I reckon is part of the Johnson DNA………..

[Street red]

What gets me is Johnson wants praise for playing weimann 9 and a half from that interview but weimanns natural position is central anyway he hasnt changed as a player since his academy days at villa, With weimann the difference is experience he's always had a phenomenal work rate.. Lambert played weimann central at villa after moving him in.

Anywhere across the line right left central or just behind weimann has had that since villa just like Abraham he's had the quality before he come to city but again it's experience through appearances. Early quality coaching of those two players is what's made them the players of today.

Pearsons man management has helped weimanns achievements last season not coaching itself.

A post from 2014

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-striker-andi-weimann-7075444

Edited June 18, 2022 by Street red

[samo II]

38 minutes ago, Robbored said:

If you ever listened properly to a GJ interview he actually talked a lot, laughed at his own jokes but said nothing meaningful at all.

What LJ did was talk a load a bollocks thinking that we’d all be able impressed with his knowledge of the game.

As for becoming a clone of his father I was referring to him playing some decent stuff when he was first appointed but gradually over time he started producing the same dreary shite that his dad had. 

I reckon is part of the Johnson DNA………..

I mean we all know you hate GJ because he embarrassed you, so you’re hardly an unbiased viewpoint.

Funny for someone you’ve so little care for you’re always posting about how shite he was at every possible opportunity, no matter how tenuous the link.

Your obvious personal vendetta is getting really old.