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1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

I’m interested to know whether any players were given an exemption from pre season testing last Friday.  Weimann on Austrian duty undoubtedly, but I can’t believe a holiday would’ve been an acceptable reason.  So my gut feel is Palmer was allowed because his deal with Coventry is sorted bar the medical, and there was no need for him to report for testing.  Lots of 2+2s in that admittedly.

I think the players may have been grouped, into groups of 11 of 12. But not 100% sure on that. 

Group 1 (see Kane Wilson signing video) contained many of the younger players within the squad + Klose. Players such as Bell, Idehen included. 

Group 2 I would assume would contain the more experienced members of the squad, bar a couple of exceptions. 

Semenyo, Weimann and no Max (called up late to Ireland) are obvious exceptions due to international commitments, with Semenyo also suffering an injury. 

Naismith and Sykes are likely to have completed the tests upon signing. Sykes signing video showed him being put through his paces. 

Joe Williams may have a separate fitness plan in order to continue to carefully monitor his recovery. Kalas possibly in this bracket also. 

The likes of King and Cundy wouldn't be expected back unless contracts are sorted, and I would assume that Baker would continue to be missing due to medical reasons. Plus Palmer still being away. 

That's a total of 11 players potentially absent. 

It's also worth noting that this isn't the 'offical' start of pre-season. It's a case of hit the target scores and enjoy more time off, or you are back in for training immediately. 

The press reports suggest that all parties are confident the Palmer deal gets done, so perhaps we are relaxed enough to tell him he isn't required for fitness testing. 

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23 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

The press reports suggest that all parties are confident the Palmer deal gets done, so perhaps we are relaxed enough to tell him he isn't required for fitness testing. 

That’s what I was suggesting! ?

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1 hour ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

The press reports suggest that all parties are confident the Palmer deal gets done, so perhaps we are relaxed enough to tell him he isn't required for fitness testing. 

And we have told them

‘He did all his fitness tests before his holiday , flew through them , you don’t need to bother with those’

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9 hours ago, Davefevs said:

That’s what I was suggesting! ?

Any idea what the deal means for City, Dave? Do we lose his wages entirely (assume no fee)?

Shame, really, there's a real player in there, it just didn't work. Such things happen. Good luck to him.

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Not sure of all the hate of Palmer, I havent heard the stuff from behind the scenes if hes a bad egg or not, met him once in Bath and he seemed very pleasent. We as a club have never given him the run of games, or the style of football to suit him, everytime I saw him it was obvious to me he was really trying to do the off the ball stuff. His best run of form was when we had a style and shape to suit him then Afobe got injured. Not sure it can all be based on the player and im sure we will see much improvement at his next club if they actually give him a run of games to get himself fit etc. Shame, I like his game but as a club we seem to train out any flair and excitement these days, certainly under previous regimes. 

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5 minutes ago, BLRed said:

Medical was so say supposed to have been done this week as reported. Can’t see that happening given its Thursday and he’s still sunning it up in the Maldives.

Perhaps he’ll break his holiday, fly in for the medical and then rejoin his wife and kids afterwards.

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2 hours ago, SecretSam said:

Any idea what the deal means for City, Dave? Do we lose his wages entirely (assume no fee)?

Shame, really, there's a real player in there, it just didn't work. Such things happen. Good luck to him.

The story was no fee, but KP gives up his contract here, I.e. takes the wage offered by Cov with no obligation for us to top it up for the remaining year.  No idea if true, just relaying what was reported.

25 minutes ago, BLRed said:

Medical was so say supposed to have been done this week as reported. Can’t see that happening given its Thursday and he’s still sunning it up in the Maldives.

Is he still in the Maldives?  Is that from Instagram or something?

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27 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Perhaps he’ll break his holiday, fly in for the medical and then rejoin his wife and kids afterwards.

:yawn:

KP is a rich man, great player, wished we could keep him, but wow he must be on some big money of which would be good to off load.

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54 minutes ago, BLRed said:

Medical was so say supposed to have been done this week as reported. Can’t see that happening given its Thursday and he’s still sunning it up in the Maldives.

Could be posts from his holiday and he is in the UK already. Never know with social media stuff 

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4 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

I think the delay is down to Coventry constructing a roof to unveil KP’s signing. 
 

The Coventry players start preseason next week , 20th June, presumably it will be sorted by then. 
:fingerscrossed:

I heard they'd ordered 10 truckloads of peanuts. Perhaps he's going to jump off the roof into a large tub of them. Hope he doesn't have a nut allergy. Could be some crushed nuts regardless.

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23 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

There is no new news on this one in the Coventry Telegraph seems a bit odd as they thought it would be sewn up by the end of this week as KP returns from Butlins at Minehead.

The Coventry squad start preseason training on Monday. 
 

I'm still not convinced by this imposter, he ain't the real Major, far too sensible and a totally different posting style.

WHERE IS THE REAL MAJOR?

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The latest Insta videos are obscene. I used to be a fan but flashing the bling like a right bunch of chavs makes me feel sick. Absolute show pony who has done very little on the pro pitch to back up his Chelsea academy rep. He’s just a guy who wants the footballer’s life without being a footballer - waster who needs to show some humility.

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3 hours ago, Cardy said:

The latest Insta videos are obscene. I used to be a fan but flashing the bling like a right bunch of chavs makes me feel sick. Absolute show pony who has done very little on the pro pitch to back up his Chelsea academy rep. He’s just a guy who wants the footballer’s life without being a footballer - waster who needs to show some humility.

Yes, but apart from that, he's a jolly nice chap.

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8 hours ago, Cardy said:

The latest Insta videos are obscene. I used to be a fan but flashing the bling like a right bunch of chavs makes me feel sick. Absolute show pony who has done very little on the pro pitch to back up his Chelsea academy rep. He’s just a guy who wants the footballer’s life without being a footballer - waster who needs to show some humility.

I thought he’d done something awful, all he’s done is got engaged. It’s a beautiful ring, he can afford it so fair play to him. 

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12 hours ago, Cardy said:

The latest Insta videos are obscene. I used to be a fan but flashing the bling like a right bunch of chavs makes me feel sick. Absolute show pony who has done very little on the pro pitch to back up his Chelsea academy rep. He’s just a guy who wants the footballer’s life without being a footballer - waster who needs to show some humility.

 Obscene ? it’s him and his fiancé celebrating their engagement

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11 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

I realise this is going to be controversial but I'm not sure agree with the outrage here. I think footballers' wages represent a deeply skewed society where we value certain careers to an obscene multiple of other careers but players aren't to blame for the wage they're offered.

Even if it does turn out that Palmer doesn't have the dedication and application needed to make it in the game - and I've no idea if that's the issue at all - it was the club's job to suss his character out over six months of a loan before offering him a contract. I don't see any reason to dislike the guy for taking the contract he was offered or choosing to enjoy the money he's paid on that contract. I doubt many of us would turn down a job for an obscene salary just because we didn't particularly enjoy the work (which, again, I've no idea is true of KP or not). 

He doesn't need to show humility and he doesn't owe us as fans anything. It's not his fault the club shelled out a transfer fee and a fair whack of wages for a player that did not have a plan for, and it's not his fault we've now got a manager whose style of play he does not suit at all. As far as I'm concerned, he can do as he pleases with his money and social media. I just think it's a lesson for the club that we need to be prudent and have a clear understanding of and plan for the players we sign. 

I agree entirely with your sentiments regarding his money and how it was gained. I do however think that those with such riches, show a little more decorum and humility when posting things on public forums, it might come over as big headed and crass. After all those posts will be seen by people who effectively pay his wages and might well be struggling in the present climate to provide a roof over their heads, food on the table and clothing. It's called class I think and some just don't have it.

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29 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

I realise this is going to be controversial but I'm not sure agree with the outrage here. I think footballers' wages represent a deeply skewed society where we value certain careers to an obscene multiple of other careers but players aren't to blame for the wage they're offered.

Even if it does turn out that Palmer doesn't have the dedication and application needed to make it in the game - and I've no idea if that's the issue at all - it was the club's job to suss his character out over six months of a loan before offering him a contract. I don't see any reason to dislike the guy for taking the contract he was offered or choosing to enjoy the money he's paid on that contract. I doubt many of us would turn down a job for an obscene salary just because we didn't particularly enjoy the work (which, again, I've no idea is true of KP or not). 

He doesn't need to show humility and he doesn't owe us as fans anything. It's not his fault the club shelled out a transfer fee and a fair whack of wages for a player that they did not have a plan for, and it's not his fault we've now got a manager whose style of play he does not suit at all. As far as I'm concerned, he can do as he pleases with his money and social media. I just think it's a lesson for the club that we need to be prudent and have a clear understanding of and plan for the players we sign. 

Spot on, and I bet if you asked Pearson this would probably be his view too.

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Didn't the press reports say that Palmer was due for a medical in the week (last week)?

From the looks of it, he's still on holiday. I would hope for some movement during this upcoming week. 

Teams are starting to return for pre-season training, Swansea are already back for instance. You would assume that Coventry would like him there for Day 1.

Can't help but feel that this deal is one of the most important bits of business we could conduct this summer (from an outgoing perspective). 

 

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7 hours ago, Rich said:

I agree entirely with your sentiments regarding his money and how it was gained. I do however think that those with such riches, show a little more decorum and humility when posting things on public forums, it might come over as big headed and crass. After all those posts will be seen by people who effectively pay his wages and might well be struggling in the present climate to provide a roof over their heads, food on the table and clothing. It's called class I think and some just don't have it.

 

you should have a look through Tomas Kalas’ Instagram if you think Palmer ‘lacks class’….!!

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3 minutes ago, petehinton said:

you should have a look through Tomas Kalas’ Instagram if you think Palmer ‘lacks class’….!!

Why on earth do people trawl social media accounts to get wound up?

Strange world we live in. 

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7 hours ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

Didn't the press reports say that Palmer was due for a medical in the week (last week)?

From the looks of it, he's still on holiday. I would hope for some movement during this upcoming week. 

Teams are starting to return for pre-season training, Swansea are already back for instance. You would assume that Coventry would like him there for Day 1.

Can't help but feel that this deal is one of the most important bits of business we could conduct this summer (from an outgoing perspective). 

 

According to the Coventry Telegraph he was back off his jollys this weekend. 
I expect he will be announced today as the Coventry players start their preseason training this Monday. 
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So to recap ;

He had a medical last week despite being on holiday with Mrs KP and family.

He’s bought a house in Coventry 

He came back from holiday last week and last weekend. 
All the above are rumours. 
Adi Viveash the number two at Cov, knows him very well as he coached him through the youth levels at Chelsea. 
Fact 

It looks like it will go through, let’s hope sooner rather than later for all parties. 

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14 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

So to recap ;

He had a medical last week despite being on holiday with Mrs KP and family.

He’s bought a house in Coventry 

He came back from holiday last week and last weekend. 
All the above are rumours. 
Adi Viveash the number two at Cov, knows him very well as he coached him through the youth levels at Chelsea. 
Fact 

It looks like it will go through, let’s hope sooner rather than later for all parties. 

You forgot:

he’s the messiah - Fact

hes also a very naughty boy - Fact

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9 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

He’s still on holiday , or was certainly in Maldives yesterday

And hence .......Unsurprisingly , no sign of him at pre season 

Still on holiday ?  Source? 
If that’s the case seem that he’s highly motivated to get his footballing career back on track. 
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11 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

If we can get confirmation he isn't at our training today, that's as good as confirmed he's on his way out, surely?

 

Let’s not go celebrating until he’s actually out the door.

Far too many false dawns (QPR, Cardiff, etc) with him in the past.

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11 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

If we can get confirmation he isn't at our training today, that's as good as confirmed he's on his way out, surely?

 

Or quite simply not required at preseason training.

We know that NP won’t use him so no point in him being there and/or being party to all our plans for the coming season.

We know he’s off.It’s rumoured to be Coventry but it would take a minor miracle if he pulls on a City shirt again.

 

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7 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Let’s not go celebrating until he’s actually out the door.

Far too many false dawns (QPR, Cardiff, etc) with him in the past.

Indeed

6 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

Or quite simply not required at preseason training.

We know that NP won’t use him so no point in him being there and/or being party to all our plans for the coming season.

Pearson didn't have a problem with him being around last season though - it's not as if he's persona non grata unlike, at a guess, Bakinson - if he was told to make himself scarce I wouldn't be in the least surprised.  

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5 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

Indeed

Pearson didn't have a problem with him being around last season though - it's not as if he's persona non grata unlike, at a guess, Bakinson - if he was told to make himself scarce I wouldn't be in the least surprised.  

The only difference is that we could unveil our plans for the new season and the next minute he’s facing us with his new club. 
Last season it was not decided before January if he was going to be offered a way out.

 

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A move works for all parties, but for me this will always be a 'what if' signing. 

His link up with Afobe and Weimann looked to suit his style. But there were too many gaps in other areas of his game. 

Showed moments of brilliance, such as the Northampton cup game, where he seemed to control the tempo of the match. 

Wish him well, and I think Coventry is a great move for him. Just one of those deals that didn't work out. 

The main thing for us, is that we are now turning a corner and no longer offering these ridiculous wages. Nige will build a squad based on equal pay. 

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Technically a gifted player that pass he put over for Brownhill to get a last minute winner (forgot who against) was pure magic and like someone mentioned his understanding with Afobe was class. However he doesnt seem to like to tackle or head the ball and will never chase back when to win the ball back when he's lost it.. Overall a very lazy player, a world beater for the 1st couple of games when hes got something to prove then he slips into his comfort zone and appears to not want to be out there ..   

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7 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

A move works for all parties, but for me this will always be a 'what if' signing. 

His link up with Afobe and Weimann looked to suit his style. But there were too many gaps in other areas of his game. 

Showed moments of brilliance, such as the Northampton cup game, where he seemed to control the tempo of the match. 

Wish him well, and I think Coventry is a great move for him. Just one of those deals that didn't work out. 

The main thing for us, is that we are now turning a corner and no longer offering these ridiculous wages. Nige will build a squad based on equal pay. 

My sentiments too.

Good luck to him.

If he’s waived the right to his contract here to enable a free transfer, then well done City and KP, it needed compromise from at least 2 parties.  Cov may have conpromised too.  At least he’s trying to move his career forward.

Assuming the above is true, then that is £1m in this season cost forecast that can be removed.

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A really strange one is KP. Clearly talented would often put a shift in (in fact some of his slide tackles terrified me) & decent goals/assists ratio for minutes on the pitch. However the no. Of managers that he has underwhelmed grows ever larger & he has to take responsibility for that. 

Grateful for some of the glorious through balls (esp. to Brownhill home to Charlton) & wish him the best for the future, but I hope for his careers sake he knuckles down & listens to whatever advice Robins gives him.

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34 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Assuming the above is true, then that is £1m in this season cost forecast that can be removed.

Indeed. Let's say £1.5m in wages saved if we take O'Dowda into account. 

So if the number of players leaving roughly equals the number joining I guess the effect on the wage bill would be cost neutral at worst.

Possibly we might be spending less. Just because we are told we have the same wage budget as last season it doesn't necessarily follow that we will spend to that limit. I certainly don't see Nigel thinking "I have £x to spend so I have to use it all".

Better squad+lower wage bill=result!?

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17 minutes ago, TDarwall said:

A really strange one is KP. Clearly talented would often put a shift in (in fact some of his slide tackles terrified me) & decent goals/assists ratio for minutes on the pitch. However the no. Of managers that he has underwhelmed grows ever larger & he has to take responsibility for that. 

Grateful for some of the glorious through balls (esp. to Brownhill home to Charlton) & wish him the best for the future, but I hope for his careers sake he knuckles down & listens to whatever advice Robins gives him.

Agree with this, very talented player and despite some views think he did try hard when on the pitch, but perhaps there has been a lot of behind the scenes issues maybe with attitude that upset managers and they fall out.

If he gets in a club that panders to his needs, or he realises the error of his ways, then sure they will have a great player

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4 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Agree with this, very talented player and despite some views think he did try hard when on the pitch, but perhaps there has been a lot of behind the scenes issues maybe with attitude that upset managers and they fall out.

If he gets in a club that panders to his needs, or he realises the error of his ways, then sure they will have a great player

Or maybe the fact that he failed on loan at Derby, Blackburn & Swansea & did virtually nothing on loan with us to ever justify making it permanent (thanks Ashton & LJ) suggests the problem is actually with the player?

How many times can people make excuses for someone whose only consistency is in failing to deliver?

He had about 5 good games for us, cost £3.5m, another £1m a year (plus) in wages for 3 years, yet some are still posting we’ll regret this.

What I regret is that we ever bought him.

A complete & utter disaster of a signing.

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3 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Or maybe the fact that he failed on loan at Derby, Blackburn & Swansea & did virtually nothing on loan with us to ever justify making it permanent (thanks Ashton & LJ) suggests the problem is actually with the player?

How many times can people make excuses for someone whose only consistency is in failing to deliver?

He had about 5 good games for us, cost £3.5m, another £1m a year (plus) in wages for 3 years, yet some are still posting we’ll regret this.

What I regret is that we ever bought him.

A complete & utter disaster of a signing.

There are, at least , two sides to every story. We may regret him going or we may be grateful he’s gone depending on how it turns out. 
We have Scott who is younger and as good if not better. 

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4 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Or maybe the fact that he failed on loan at Derby, Blackburn & Swansea & did virtually nothing on loan with us to ever justify making it permanent (thanks Ashton & LJ) suggests the problem is actually with the player?

How many times can people make excuses for someone whose only consistency is in failing to deliver?

He had about 5 good games for us, cost £3.5m, another £1m a year (plus) in wages for 3 years, yet some are still posting we’ll regret this.

What I regret is that we ever bought him.

A complete & utter disaster of a signing.

Also agree with your sentiments too (you big Pato lover ???)…but SL / MA / LJ agreed to sign the player, and at least 2 of those 3 agreed to the fee and the wages, so I think that aspect shouldn’t be held against Palmer per se.

What we are seeing from Cov, is a sensible financial approach to signing him….a free transfer, and lower wages (more in line with his career record / ability.

We overpaid, Chelsea pulled our pants down at £3.5m.  But hardly surprising, I don’t think our CEO was that good at his job (Richard Latham has made that point in the past, regardless of MA’s “personality”).  They sucker us in with Kalas, and stuffed us with KP financially.

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Irrespective of the fee and wages we stupidly accepted to bring KP here, he has shown little in the way of working hard. A footballer with his ability and talent is useless if the effort and team play is missing. So why didn't the trio in charge realise that was the reason why Chelsea and all his loan clubs were not wanting him permanently?

Almost as poor a signing as Nick Hunt, Brian Mitchell and that midfielder in the 90's who's name escapes me.

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21 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

There are, at least , two sides to every story. We may regret him going or we may be grateful he’s gone depending on how it turns out. 
We have Scott who is younger and as good if not better. 

I'd disagree - this is a positive step for us regardless of how it turns out for him at Coventry

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