Davefevs Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 id have preferred 3 from 5, but 5 from 7 is better than 5 from 9 imho. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 Board changes too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, Davefevs said: id have preferred 3 from 5, but 5 from 7 is better than 5 from 9 imho. I agree Dave, I would prefer 3 from 5. Allowing 5 subs is ruining the game for me. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 I foresee lots of added on time this season.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just now, bcfc01 said: I foresee lots of added on time this season.. If both teams make all 5 subs that's a minimum of 5 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 No further detail as to whether 5 subs have to made in a maximum of 3 sub slots, e.g. 212, 113, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 3 from 5 is good enough. This will bring about more disruption and time wasting. If there had to have been change I would preferred 3 from 5 plus a keeper. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No further detail as to whether 5 subs have to made in a maximum of 3 sub slots, e.g. 212, 113, etc. I was just reading that. If I've read it properly, you will only now be allowed to sub players at predetermined times, with Half time being one of them. Surely they would have to take into account injuries etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said: I was just reading that. If I've read it properly, you will only now be allowed to sub players at predetermined times, with Half time being one of them. Surely they would have to take into account injuries etc? No, I just read it again….it’s 3 opportunities (at any time you wish) plus ht, so for example if you made 1 at ht, 1 at 52 mins, another at 64 mins and another at 71 mins, you’ve used up your 3 opportunities (plus ht) and wouldn’t be allowed to make another sub. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cider hoss rules Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 42 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: I foresee lots of added on time this season.. shit, how many might we concede now 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No, I just read it again….it’s 3 opportunities (at any time you wish) plus ht, so for example if you made 1 at ht, 1 at 52 mins, another at 64 mins and another at 71 mins, you’ve used up your 3 opportunities (plus ht) and wouldn’t be allowed to make another sub. Correct. Half time isn’t included because obviously no time is taken out of the game making a change then. Not a fan of 5 subs either, though it does mean potentially more double substitutions, which if managed well should avoid blatant time wasting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 54 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: I foresee lots of added on time this season.. Depending on whether the "big" team is winning or losing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 22 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No, I just read it again….it’s 3 opportunities (at any time you wish) plus ht, so for example if you made 1 at ht, 1 at 52 mins, another at 64 mins and another at 71 mins, you’ve used up your 3 opportunities (plus ht) and wouldn’t be allowed to make another sub. So you would go down to 10 men if someone got injured, even if you hadn't used up your allocation of subs. This could get get somewhat complicating ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 10, 2022 Author Share Posted June 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said: So you would go down to 10 men if someone got injured, even if you hadn't used up your allocation of subs. This could get get somewhat complicating ? Yes, it’s exactly the same sub rules as post-covid, apart from 7 subs, whereas post covid it was 9. Its not that complicated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said: So you would go down to 10 men if someone got injured, even if you hadn't used up your allocation of subs. This could get get somewhat complicating ? At least we know from the outset, watching a game the other day when a Concussion sub was used threw me. I was watching with the sound off in my defence. I would prefer 3 from 7 for subs, 5 is half a team and will benefit bigger squads. On your point of going down to 10, with our injury record of recent years, we could have 2 injuries in the first 20 mins and leave us worrying about when to use the last break in play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: At least we know from the outset, watching a game the other day when a Concussion sub was used threw me. I was watching with the sound off in my defence. I would prefer 3 from 7 for subs, 5 is half a team and will benefit bigger squads. On your point of going down to 10, with our injury record of recent years, we could have 2 injuries in the first 20 mins and leave us worrying about when to use the last break in play. Yes, one of our last games of the season saw Alex Scott go off with a nosebleed, which was deemed as concussion , and both teams were able to use 4 subs. Wonder if a concussion sub can still be used after the allotted 5 ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: Wonder if a concussion sub can still be used after the allotted 5 ? Almost certainly, surely? That’s more a medical necessity than tactical etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 30 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: Wonder if a concussion sub can still be used after the allotted 5 ? I would expect so. They don't take chances with head injuries any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 As per the title…,https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/efl-introduce-new-substitution-rules-7192790 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Utterly stupid. Killing the game as a spectacle. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 9 hours ago, Davefevs said: No further detail as to whether 5 subs have to made in a maximum of 3 sub slots, e.g. 212, 113, etc. That makes sense 7 hours ago, The Horse With No Name said: Yes, one of our last games of the season saw Alex Scott go off with a nosebleed, which was deemed as concussion , and both teams were able to use 4 subs. Wonder if a concussion sub can still be used after the allotted 5 ? Do you know Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kit Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Might as well throw in the towel now and just have rolling subs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 18 hours ago, bcfc01 said: I foresee lots of added on time this season.. great! That’s all we need 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 16 hours ago, 1960maaan said: I would prefer 3 from 7 for subs, 5 is half a team and will benefit bigger squads. This could get likely rugby where they now talk about “starters” and “finishers” as part of their tactics. Again it has changed the game and possibly not for the better as tired players are replaced by fresh ones, whereas before the fittest team could benefit towards the end of a game. And it definitely benefits the (richer) clubs with bigger more expensive squads, rather than those who would fill the extra spaces with youngsters - or if your Cotts not even make a full bench to make a point! 14 hours ago, BTRFTG said: Utterly stupid. Killing the game as a spectacle. Which again is possible. Too many stoppages already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 I think this change might work well for us. May help us manage time on the pitch for our youngsters/players stepping up to the pace of the championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 LJ and his double substitutions will be over the moon with these new rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eardun Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, Red Alert said: LJ and his double substitutions will be over the moon with these new rules. Think Scotland already applied this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Cyril Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Oh goodie. "Impact players", "specialist kickers and retrievers", "offensive team/defensive team".... all giving me more time to buy more hotdogs and popcorn while the KissCam focuses in on a couple of belltards in the Dolman willing to have a snog and fiddle to get on the big screen. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 44 minutes ago, Mad Cyril said: Oh goodie. "Impact players", "specialist kickers and retrievers", "offensive team/defensive team".... all giving me more time to buy more hotdogs and popcorn while the KissCam focuses in on a couple of belltards in the Dolman willing to have a snog and fiddle to get on the big screen. Just about to post something similar. What problem is this trying to fix exactly? Football not exciting enough for the EFL already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 hour ago, One Team said: Just about to post something similar. What problem is this trying to fix exactly? Football not exciting enough for the EFL already? 100%!!! Out of all the problems that need to be fixed in football; this is not one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGBjammy Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 People seem to be stuck between 3 or 5. So here's a crazy suggestion: four. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 hour ago, YGBjammy said: People seem to be stuck between 3 or 5. So here's a crazy suggestion: four. Here's an even crazier one, use interchangeable subs as in Ozzie rules where the same player can spend time on & off the field. Just off to get my Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The dastardly red Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Stupid idea. They'll ne making the goals bigger next ffs. Just leave it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redysteadygo Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 9 hours ago, The dastardly red said: Stupid idea. They'll ne making the goals bigger next ffs. Just leave it. Was working in Edinburgh and on Jock TV saw a programme where they worked out the size comparison between goals and the average height of males(goalkeepers) when the rules are first introduced. With the current height of keepers the goals they experimented with were huge. They then played a game and the attacking teams still played as normal until they realised there was a lot more space around the keeper that they could score in. Blimey did the shots start raining in then from all angles and distances. Would certainly make for some high scoring games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The dastardly red Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 2 hours ago, redysteadygo said: Was working in Edinburgh and on Jock TV saw a programme where they worked out the size comparison between goals and the average height of males(goalkeepers) when the rules are first introduced. With the current height of keepers the goals they experimented with were huge. They then played a game and the attacking teams still played as normal until they realised there was a lot more space around the keeper that they could score in. Blimey did the shots start raining in then from all angles and distances. Would certainly make for some high scoring games. Yeah and kill the drama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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