Never to the dark side Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 go get em Tammy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Nearly conceded within a couple of minutes again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Mason Southgate-Mount starting again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Why is it empty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Ecko said: Why is it empty? People in Wolverhampton can only afford potatoes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Should probably be 3 down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Sheltons Army said: Should probably be 3 down 2-1 down on direct chances tbf. Grealish not doing himself any favours and just missed a sitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUSSEL85 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ecko said: Why is it empty? Fans ban, apart from 2000 kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, Ecko said: Why is it empty? Because of a-holes lighting flares in their a-holes and gate crashing (literally) at last year’s Euro finals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 It's like Molineux in 1986 ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire robin Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dr Balls said: Because of a-holes lighting flares in their a-holes and gate crashing (literally) at last year’s Euro finals. Nothing to do with flares just the rampage before the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecko Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dr Balls said: Because of a-holes lighting flares in their a-holes and gate crashing (literally) at last year’s Euro finals. So we've been hit with a harsher penalty than the Hungarians who were racist? Uefa logic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Tammy has definitely added a few pounds , in an athletic way He looks stronger , and you can see the benefits in aspects of his all round game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Like watching paint dry, and the commentary isn't much better either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Trippier having a nightmare. Every Italy attack coming down our left. Is there not a left footed Left Back we can pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Taz said: Like watching paint dry, and the commentary isn't much better either... I always watch these games and always regret it after. For me, national football is only interesting when it’s a tournament. edit: Waiting for a pedant to tell me the nations league is a tournament Edited June 11, 2022 by Marcus Aurelius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, Numero Uno said: Trippier having a nightmare. Every Italy attack coming down our left. Is there not a left footed Left Back we can pick? Assume Shaw & Chilwell are injured, I’d still rather Targett/Creswell/Justin, unless they’re all injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Grealish and Trippier look like League 1 players chucked into an international side. Trippier to be fair shouldn’t be at left back, Grealish unfortunately is proving Southgate right. Our left hand side is ruining the team as a whole. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Ecko said: So we've been hit with a harsher penalty than the Hungarians who were racist? Uefa logic No. Our game over there last week was behind closed doors, but they were allowed to let kids in like tonight. Edited June 11, 2022 by Northern Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Few bits Tammy has had to do he has done well, but just not in the game really. Down our left we just seem to be allergic to getting a cross in and going Tammy something to go for. Italy more adventurous and created the better chances overall. Kind of England performance expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 What a snoozefest from England. Southgate is such a boring coach. His middle name is surely 'safe'. Sterling and Abraham had no impact and I rate them both. I expect Gareth's answer will be to bring on another holding midfielder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 35 minutes ago, Ecko said: Why is it empty? Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 minute ago, robin_unreliant said: What a snoozefest from England. Southgate is such a boring coach. His middle name is surely 'safe'. Sterling and Abraham had no impact and I rate them both. I expect Gareth's answer will be to bring on another holding midfielder. Can’t win can he. Picks the fans choice and still gets criticised It’s a good free flowing game, chances for both sides 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said: I always watch these games and always regret it after. For me, national football is only interesting when it’s a tournament. edit: Waiting for a pedant to tell me the nations league is a tournament Same here, actually the first time I've watched England since this "tournament" started. Have either forgotten we were playing, or been doing something else. For the second half, I've just decided I'm doing something else.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rossi the Robin said: Can’t win can he. Picks the fans choice and still gets criticised It’s a good free flowing game, chances for both sides He's included different players but stuck with two holding midfielders. I get that our defence isn't great but we need a win. At what point will he actually pick an attacking formation?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, robin_unreliant said: He's included different players but stuck with two holding midfielders. I get that our defence isn't great but we need a win. At what point will he actually pick an attacking formation?? Who would you play instead in the middle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said: Assume Shaw & Chilwell are injured, I’d still rather Targett/Creswell/Justin, unless they’re all injured. There's always Lloyd Kelly or Aaron Cresswell. Edited June 11, 2022 by E.G.Red 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rossi the Robin said: Who would you play instead in the middle? I would rather we played 4-3-3 than 4-5-1.Grealish and Sterling should be further forward where their strengths are maximised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 minute ago, robin_unreliant said: I would rather we played 4-3-3 than 4-5-1.Grealish and Sterling should be further forward where their strengths are maximised. It’s basically the same formation- the players have to force the pace. Easier said than done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 This is already a dreary bore draw……….……… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Rossi the Robin said: It’s basically the same formation- the players have to force the pace. Easier said than done Except that they obviously play to the instructions given to them by the coach. Which appear to be safety first, covering our defence.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 I guess it shows what a decent job Southgate has done when people expect us to blow the Italians and the Germans away. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said: Except that they obviously play to the instructions given to them by the coach. Which appear to be safety first, covering our defence.. And then people would moan because we would be getting ripped to shreds 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Decided to watch the boxing rather than the football this evening, from the comments it looks like I made the right decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 I see Nagy put the Hungarians ahead against Germany tonight (Currently 1-1) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, glynriley said: I guess it shows what a decent job Southgate has done when people expect us to blow the Italians and the Germans away. It’s not just because of Southgate, as a nation we’re finally seeing the benefit of decent youth coaching. I was at an u8s tournament today, and the technical skills of some of the young players is exceptional at such a young age. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: I see Nagy put the Hungarians ahead against Germany tonight (Currently 1-1) Zsolt Nagy, not Adam. Seems a fairly common surname for them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: I see Zsolt Nagy put the Hungarians ahead against Germany tonight (Currently 1-1) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 I know it wouldn’t have counted , but what a save that was from Donadoni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 What a wonderful game that was……….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Too many passes going astray coupled with poor decision making have let England down. When given the chance to run at their goalie, the England players pass wide giving the defence time to reform. When confronted by three defenders, England's forwards will try running through instead of passing to an unmarked team mate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Hmmmm , in terms of World Cup auditions , not too many made a statement to enhance their chances of inclusion Ramsdale Maybe the only one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Grim Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 33 minutes ago, glynriley said: I guess it shows what a decent job Southgate has done when people expect us to blow the Italians and the Germans away. Or the quality we have available. Lets be honest, with the attacking players we have the last 3 games have been shocking. We are so boring and predictable. Not going to comment on Southgate as its been done to death. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Being positive, if England are going to have a poor spell, I'd rather they do it now than in Qatar later this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Lauren Price is about to make her pro debut if you have Sky Sports and watch a bit of boxing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, Sheltons Army said: Hmmmm , in terms of World Cup auditions , not too many made a statement to enhance their chances of inclusion Ramsdale Maybe the only one Tomori was decent. Otherwise it had a distinctly second string feel about it……including Grealish who is starting to have that unfortunate look of being an impact player and not a starter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 33 minutes ago, glynriley said: I guess it shows what a decent job Southgate has done when people expect us to blow the Italians and the Germans away. Nobody was expecting England to blow Germany or Italy away but many were expecting a more flamboyant and attacking style of play from England but GS is way too cautious for my liking - it’s like watching paint dry……………. Im struggle to remember the last time I enjoyed an England game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Boring but these are games no players want to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Lamb Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 I have this dreary feeling we are going to flop at the WC big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, The Coach said: I have this dreary feeling we are going to flop at the WC big time. We are starting to look a bit stale and predictable , difficult to fully tell considering the timing of these games , but we have a limited tactical approach, increasingly reliant on some individual quality from certain players to get us a result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 For all the complaints about how boring it is, you'll still all be watching on Tuesday night. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRFTG Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Never to the dark side said: go get em Tammy After the shambles this week I didn't bother watching tonight though my bet slip says Tammy F didn't muster a shot on target. Perchance stuck on a Parson St platform? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Most England players look unsurprisingly knackered.......why does Southgate keep playing a right footed left back? Looking at the results and general standard, the Nations League/Cup whatever, is a competition too far. Players should be on holiday, not playing more football IMHO. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Numero Uno said: Trippier having a nightmare. Every Italy attack coming down our left. Is there not a left footed Left Back we can pick? One of my pet hates. how the hell can you break at pace when the ball is played wide and the fullback cant cross or play a pass from the touchline. How can forwards time runs when the player cuts the ball back on to his favoured foot. Pathetic, maybe we dont want to counter attack . apart from that defending as a fullback on the wrong side is a nightmare. Unless you can kick with either foot of coarse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, Northern Red said: For all the complaints about how boring it is, you'll still all be watching on Tuesday night. Didn’t realise - thought it was 3 Nations League games now and 3 in September or whenever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffleflap Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Sidewards, forwards, back, sidwards . Shite 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Michael Owen seeming to agree that Southgate is just too cautious in the way he sets the team up. I can accept that I know f all compared to the England coach, but when he agrees with my view I start to think maybe Gareth is holding us back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Ecko said: So we've been hit with a harsher penalty than the Hungarians who were racist? Uefa logic No the Hungarians twisted the rules to bring in 1000s of children and then of course a certain number of adults to “look after” them. The penalties from UEFA were the same, except being British, we followed the spirit and the letter of the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said: Michael Owen seeming to agree that Southgate is just too cautious in the way he sets the team up. I can accept that I know f all compared to the England coach, but when he agrees with my view I start to think maybe Gareth is holding us back. For all the love there has been for him since the 2018 World Cup, and he did go one further than Terry Venables at the Euros, unlike most previous England managers who had usually won something, Southgate’s record as a club manager would suggest “below average to average” at best. Maybe he’s just a lucky version of “Shteeve” McClaren! Although neither of them could beat Croatia when it mattered…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 43 minutes ago, Super said: Boring but these are games no players want to play. I could think of loads of players who would have LOVED to have played for England tonight so dont say No players want to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: I could think of loads of players who would have LOVED to have played for England tonight so dont say No players want to play Players who have played a full season don't want to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Super said: Players who have played a full season don't want to play. If they want a World Cup Place , I think they might ! Only 3 more ‘auditions’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: If they want a World Cup Place , I think they might ! Only 3 more ‘auditions’ Not if you get the golden buzzer. Straight to the semi! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 My summing up of Tammy Abraham tonight in two words, Bumble foot, sorry but he looked like somebody who had won a competition to represent England maybe he had an off night but if I was him I would not be booking two weeks off in Qatar in November any time soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 9 hours ago, maxjak said: Most England players look unsurprisingly knackered.......why does Southgate keep playing a right footed left back? Looking at the results and general standard, the Nations League/Cup whatever, is a competition too far. Players should be on holiday, not playing more football IMHO. Absolutely agree with this. Southgate would have got decent backing had he left anyone who has played 40/50 games this season out of the squad. Kane would have benefitted more from an extra 2 weeks rest than playing in pointless matches. What's the betting he breaks down October time and isn't quite fit enough in November as he is still recovering from injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 11 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Absolutely agree with this. Southgate would have got decent backing had he left anyone who has played 40/50 games this season out of the squad. Kane would have benefitted more from an extra 2 weeks rest than playing in pointless matches. What's the betting he breaks down October time and isn't quite fit enough in November as he is still recovering from injury. And another game on Tues. Ridiculous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 12 hours ago, glynriley said: I guess it shows what a decent job Southgate has done when people expect us to blow the Italians and the Germans away. I quite enjoyed our performance last night (Suspect I’m in the minority). I thought we moved the ball pretty well, against a good opponent, we didn’t give it away cheaply and spend too much time chasing a superior technical team around. We forget Italy are well drilled defensively and although we didn’t have many decent shots we did create lots of good situations. Italy had some good chances too, but we made them work hard. Not convinced by Ward-Prowse. Amazing set-piece taker, but I don’t think he has a good enough all round game. Reece James has gone off the boil too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 11 hours ago, maxjak said: Most England players look unsurprisingly knackered.......why does Southgate keep playing a right footed left back? Looking at the results and general standard, the Nations League/Cup whatever, is a competition too far. Players should be on holiday, not playing more football IMHO. The 2 left backs are injured. He tried an alternative in March who was deemed not up to it. Who else is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I quite enjoyed our performance last night (Suspect I’m in the minority). I thought we moved the ball pretty well, against a good opponent, we didn’t give it away cheaply and spend too much time chasing a superior technical team around. We forget Italy are well drilled defensively and although we didn’t have many decent shots we did create lots of good situations. Italy had some good chances too, but we made them work hard. Not convinced by Ward-Prowse. Amazing set-piece taker, but I don’t think he has a good enough all round game. Reece James has gone off the boil too. Respectfully disagree about JWP. High energy and has a little more invention than Rice & Phillips. Would help if the coach believed in him more like he clearly does with Mount who just needs to go on holiday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Bard said: Respectfully disagree about JWP. High energy and has a little more invention than Rice & Phillips. Would help if the coach believed in him more like he clearly does with Mount who just needs to go on holiday. I like JWP very good all round player As for Phillips I wouldnt have him near the starting 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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