Alex Scott

[Betty Swallocks]

I suppose the next issue may well be when next years U20 World Cup is scheduled for. I’m sure when England won it a few years ago it was right bang in the middle of the season. 

[Jerseybean]

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/alex-scott-tottenham-aston-villa-7226788

[Monkeh]

8 hours ago, The Bard said:

If you can't see that there is an understanding between the big EPL clubs and the England set up you're living in La La Land.  

If Steve Holland coached you, you have about a 50% chance of getting picked for England. 

If the under 19 side was picked on merit Scott would be captain. Instead the coach is expected to ensure the interests of certain clubs are met..

So why 3 players out side the prem included in the side then?

It's big team heavy because they generally have the best talent due to hoovering up said talent at a early age

Edited June 20, 2022 by Monkeh

[KegCity]

8 hours ago, The Bard said:

If you can't see that there is an understanding between the big EPL clubs and the England set up you're living in La La Land.  

If Steve Holland coached you, you have about a 50% chance of getting picked for England. 

If the under 19 side was picked on merit Scott would be captain. Instead the coach is expected to ensure the interests of certain clubs are met..

Why? Because he has experience of mens football? Should definitely be in the side but he’s not got some divine right to be there just because he’s playing first team football.

[View from the Dolman]

57 minutes ago, Betty Swallocks said:

I suppose the next issue may well be when next years U20 World Cup is scheduled for. I’m sure when England won it a few years ago it was right bang in the middle of the season. 

Looks like it would start sometime between mid May and mid June based on the past 5 tournaments and feels like it might be quite likely to match the dates for Indonesia's scheduled hosting from 2021.

2013: 21 June – 13 July (Turkey)
2015: 30 May – 20 June (New Zealand)
2017: 20 May – 11 June (South Korea) - won by England
2019: 23 May – 15 June (Poland)
2021: 20 May – 12 June (Indonesia) - cancelled due to Covid
2023: dates unannounced (Indonesia)

[Super]

1 hour ago, Betty Swallocks said:

I suppose the next issue may well be when next years U20 World Cup is scheduled for. I’m sure when England won it a few years ago it was right bang in the middle of the season. 

I would be amazed if he was still our player then.

[Betty Swallocks]

42 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

Looks like it would start sometime between mid May and mid June based on the past 5 tournaments and feels like it might be quite likely to match the dates for Indonesia's scheduled hosting from 2021.

2013: 21 June – 13 July (Turkey)
2015: 30 May – 20 June (New Zealand)
2017: 20 May – 11 June (South Korea) - won by England
2019: 23 May – 15 June (Poland)
2021: 20 May – 12 June (Indonesia) - cancelled due to Covid
2023: dates unannounced (Indonesia)

Thanks! I must have been thinking of another youth tournament. 
 

[Carey 6]

14 hours ago, Davefevs said:

1-0 up Chukwumeika from close range just before h-t. the goal scorer has been a bit sloppy at times. 

He was sloppy first half, but for both the goals he showed some real quality. 

Scott must've played 3 positions in the time he was on, right & left in what looked like a 4-2-3-1 

Then was a lot deeper after a couple of other subs but was way more influential then as well.

[P'head Red]

Does anyone know if the game tomorrow night is also on the BBC? 

[E.G.Red]

9 minutes ago, P'head Red said:

Does anyone know if the game tomorrow night is also on the BBC? 

Yes, All Englad u19 games are on  Red Button, i-player and BBC sport website

Edited June 21, 2022 by E.G.Red

[View from the Dolman]

Scott starts tonight, kick off at 7pm. 

Live on BBC Red Button and website, also on Uefa.tv

https://www.uefa.com/under19/match/2034790--england-vs-serbia/

[Gazred]

Thought he'd start tonight. Good news.

[Red Army 75]

Good luck AS. Exciting to watch a City player in a England set up

[Simon bristol]

Ooh, nearly a goal for scott!

[DOZZYBCFC]

England 1-0 up, Scott nearly scored for a second.

[And Its Smith]

If Chukwuemeka doesn’t play for a champions league team and win 50+ England caps I will be shocked. 

[Finley_Smith10]

Think Scott might get picked up by a big club very soon

[P'head Red]

Good half from England. Scott looking very good again. I did manage to get trolled on Twitter by someone saying Scott had his leg broken...who goes around saying that stuff for a laugh? Supposedly city supporters too

[REDOXO]

Is there any streams anywhere. ESPN 3 are showing it in the US but I’d rather not keep giving theM money

[Kodjias Wrist]

Scott very composed and put a couple of lovely balls in as well as a decent run. Some very physical players in this team especially around Scott.

[Northern Red]

5 minutes ago, REDOXO said:

Is there any streams anywhere. ESPN 3 are showing it in the US but I’d rather not keep giving theM money

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/61324525

Don't know if it'll work where you are?

[Bas's perfect hattrick]

3 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Scott very composed and put a couple of lovely balls in as well as a decent run. Some very physical players in this team especially around Scott.

He's looked very decent - mature and has put some cutting passes in. The rest of the team look good too. Bright future ahead with this lot

[Olé]

Alex Scott will be in his thirties before any of the U19 strikers return a pass to him. Looks like a talented age group but they have a lot to learn about teamwork. Am almost certainly biased but so frustrating watching these Premier League nobodies do anything but play the easy ball to their playmaker.

[Super]

Playing some good stuff

[P'head Red]

Edit: Scott not off, commentators called it wrong

Edited June 22, 2022 by P'head Red

[CiderHeadDan]

Commentators got it wrong, Scott’s still on

[cidercity1987]

Now playing a bit deeper in his more natural position imo

[RUSSEL85]

Scott will play for England (first team) in next 3 years in my opinion 

[P'head Red]

44 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

If Chukwuemeka doesn’t play for a champions league team and win 50+ England caps I will be shocked. 

Great goal from him 

[CiderHeadDan]

Chukwumeke is special

[CiderHeadDan]

Scott’s positioning in midfield has been very good. Such a versatile player. Have to enjoy him when he’s here because he’s going to be playing at the top level sooner or later.

[Davefevs]

26 minutes ago, Olé said:

Alex Scott will be in his thirties before any of the U19 strikers return a pass to him. Looks like a talented age group but they have a lot to learn about teamwork. Am almost certainly biased but so frustrating watching these Premier League nobodies do anything but play the easy ball to their playmaker.

Amen Brother Rob.

Too much dribbling, too much dribbling into condensed areas.  Too much trying to roll the ball across their body, which they get away with at age group where they aren’t playing another country’s best players, who are “technically strong”.  Same as the other night.

Just now, CiderHeadDan said:

Scott’s positioning in midfield has been very good. Such a versatile player. Have to enjoy him when he’s here because he’s going to be playing at the top level sooner or later.

At his best in the middle of midfield imho.

[Nogbad the Bad]

Pissov Ratkov, nasty foul on Scott  requiring treatment. Deserved yellow card.

 

[robin_unreliant]

12 minutes ago, CiderHeadDan said:

Chukwumeke is special

If any of them are in England first team in a few years, he looks the most likely. 

[CiderHeadDan]

1 minute ago, Davefevs said:

Amen Brother Rob.

Too much dribbling, too much dribbling into condensed areas.  Too much trying to roll the ball across their body, which they get away with at age group where they aren’t playing another country’s best players, who are “technically strong”.  Same as the other night.

At his best in the middle of midfield imho.

Completely agree, has that bit of steel to put in a tackle and break up the play. Also has the composure to make the right decision on the ball.

[Kodjias Wrist]

That number 2 Curry dominated his flank the entire game what a unit.

[Street red]

How lucky are we to have a lad of Scott's quality he's a breath of fresh air. 

[Davefevs]

8 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said:

If any of them are in England first team in a few years, he looks the most likely. 

I’ve still been massively impressed by the “good habits” of Alex Scott.

[RedRock]

Well played Scott. Not far off Man of the Match.

Aside from a couple of sloppy moments really impressive, can’t provide a higher accolade than Gerry Gow’ish type of performance, 

[bcfc01]

45 minutes ago, Olé said:

Alex Scott will be in his thirties before any of the U19 strikers return a pass to him. Looks like a talented age group but they have a lot to learn about teamwork. Am almost certainly biased but so frustrating watching these Premier League nobodies do anything but play the easy ball to their playmaker.

Totally agree.

That number 9 needs to learn that its not all about him.

[Charlie BCFC]

17 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

That number 2 Curry dominated his flank the entire game what a unit.

You didn’t type this whilst looking at the menu at an Indian did you Jimmy?

[chinapig]

48 minutes ago, Olé said:

Alex Scott will be in his thirties before any of the U19 strikers return a pass to him. Looks like a talented age group but they have a lot to learn about teamwork. Am almost certainly biased but so frustrating watching these Premier League nobodies do anything but play the easy ball to their playmaker.

Exactly, no point playing Alex behind a front two who are playing as individuals because they want the glory.

If I was the coach I'd be giving them a bollocking.

[redsontour]

AS played well, but my word  Carney Chukwuemeka Is some player…would love to see him have a season in the Championship. 

[BLRed]

Chukwuemeka is available on a free isn’t he? Not agreed a contract with villa and runs out end of June I thought. Waaaaay out of our league though but then some would say that of Scott if he wasn’t ours already

[Charlie BCFC]

7 minutes ago, redsontour said:

AS played well, but my word  Carney Chukwuemeka Is some player…would love to see him have a season in the Championship. 

He’s been coming off the bench and even starting a few games for Villa at a young age, I’d be very shocked if he doesn’t stay in the prem

Edited June 22, 2022 by Charlie BCFC

[And Its Smith]

10 minutes ago, BLRed said:

Chukwuemeka is available on a free isn’t he? Not agreed a contract with villa and runs out end of June I thought. Waaaaay out of our league though but then some would say that of Scott if he wasn’t ours already

Got one year left.  Liverpool allegedly in for him. 

[chinapig]

5 minutes ago, Charlie BCFC said:

He’s been coming off the bench and even starting a few games for Villa at a young age, I’d be very shocked if he doesn’t stay in the prem

Yes, though it's been reported that he won't sign a contract because he thinks he should be getting more games. If he leaves it will surely be to a Prem club who will give him games.

[KegCity]

1 hour ago, RUSSEL85 said:

Scott will play for England (first team) in next 3 years in my opinion 

Heard it all before. As quality as he is I’d rather we didn’t overhype him and just let him develop.

[AshtonRobin21]

1 hour ago, redsontour said:

AS played well, but my word  Carney Chukwuemeka Is some player…would love to see him have a season in the Championship. 

Liverpool, Barcelona and Dortmund all rumoured to be interested in him. 

[phantom]

The worry of course, after hearing about how the men's team all under performed due to burnout how much will we get out of Scott before he's overplayed into next season? 

Or will he treat the World Cup break as his off season? 

[Simon bristol]

Young dane scarlett looks like he knows where the goal is, tammy the second?? Might he fancy a loan here while semenyo is out??

[Lrrr]

26 minutes ago, phantom said:

The worry of course, after hearing about how the men's team all under performed due to burnout how much will we get out of Scott before he's overplayed into next season? 

Or will he treat the World Cup break as his off season? 

I'd expect him to perhaps just be used a bit lightly through our pre-season and built back up first few games of the season

[bpexile]

On 17/06/2022 at 22:56, bcfc01 said:

Seems-So.

Korean ???

[The Bard]

25 minutes ago, Lrrr said:

I'd expect him to perhaps just be used a bit lightly through our pre-season and built back up first few games of the season

Hopefully the England coach plays 2nd string for the last group game so he gets a rest 

[Loosey Boy]

6 hours ago, The Bard said:

Hopefully the England coach plays 2nd string for the last group game so he gets a rest 

Agreed - with qualification to next stage already confirmed, likely to give others an opportunity in final group game

[Sheltons Army]

Spent a very enjoyable 90 odd mins watching that and watching Scott like a hawk , imagining if I was reporting back to a potential suitor in the Premier League

Tried to watch for any positives and negatives

Getting the negatives out of the way they amounted to two very minor ones , the only ones I could even mention in the 90

Arguing with Lino and lucky not to get yellow , and one unnecessary ‘flick’ late on losing possession - the sum total of negatives in 90 mins

As for the positives , there were numerous , the obvious , his first touch , composure , use of the ball , his defensive work , Winning the ball , winning free kicks ....the list was tick tick tick ,and possibly what impressed me as much as any of the obvious , was his maturity and game intelligence and awareness without the ball , constantly on the move , adjusting his position, filling holes , blocking passing lanes , in a high block - so impressive for someone of that age , and when we had the ball , always looking to make an angle to receive the ball.

 

Id describe it personally as a very accomplished all round performance , and particularly for one his age

If you were desperately looking for any comment on his overall make up as a player , I can only suggest that he ideally would like an extra yard of pace, he’s certainly not slow , but compared to some he’s not blistering

It would help occasionally when he slips past somebody but he cant do much about that and compensates with his touch , opponent awareness and cleverness

Add to how easily he changed position in the game , and the trust in him to do so - He can literally play any role in middle of park , as a 10 , or wide in a three

I also think he has a real competitive edge to him , a bit of fire edging on ruthless if needed 

Another real tick for me

He even looks like he’s rolled out of a Manchester or Liverpool suburb , not Jersey

 

I really think his choice of destination when he departs is vital - I’d be totally looking for a side that are possession based 

 

Credit to the whole team , in their discipline and shape - very impressive , and bloody hell do we have some monsters coming through

Half The team were built like Linford Christie , as powerful , and nearly as quick , but with the technical ability of top end players - frightening

Edited June 23, 2022 by Sheltons Army

[Sitrom]

10 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

 

 

Id describe it personally as a very accomplished all round performance , and particularly for one his age

If you were desperately looking for any comment on his overall make up as a player , I can only suggest that he ideally would like an extra yard of pace, he’s certainly not slow , but compared to some he’s not blistering

It would help occasionally when he slips past somebody but he cant do much about that and compensates with his touch , opponent awareness and cleverness

 

Nice report. 

There is that story about the advice given to Harry Kane.  He may be able to get that extra yard of pace with work.  And he is still so young. 

[Sheltons Army]

2 minutes ago, Sitrom said:

Nice report. 

There is that story about the advice given to Harry Kane.  He may be able to get that extra yard of pace with work.  And he is still so young. 

Yes , of course , you can improve slightly / maximise what god gave you but he will never be blistering (That’s not a criticism) 

[Port Said Red]

15 minutes ago, Sitrom said:

Nice report. 

There is that story about the advice given to Harry Kane.  He may be able to get that extra yard of pace with work.  And he is still so young. 

I haven't heard this before, but I know that Sir Stanley Matthews said he used to train with weights in his socks which he felt helped strengthen his calves, and had the psychological advantage that he felt that little bit lighter on match days. He played until he was 50 so often makes me wonder whether others have tried it, and if not, why not?

[Sitrom]

19 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

Yes , of course , you can improve slightly / maximise what god gave you but he will never be blistering (That’s not a criticism) 

But maybe over that first few yards or feet. Dunno why I said yards. No idea what that is.  That boost of speed to move away from the oppo.  He has all the rest.

[Davefevs]

4 hours ago, Sheltons Army said:

Spent a very enjoyable 90 odd mins watching that and watching Scott like a hawk , imagining if I was reporting back to a potential suitor in the Premier League

Tried to watch for any positives and negatives

Getting the negatives out of the way they amounted to two very minor ones , the only ones I could even mention in the 90

Arguing with Lino and lucky not to get yellow , and one unnecessary ‘flick’ late on losing possession - the sum total of negatives in 90 mins

As for the positives , there were numerous , the obvious , his first touch , composure , use of the ball , his defensive work , Winning the ball , winning free kicks ....the list was tick tick tick ,and possibly what impressed me as much as any of the obvious , was his maturity and game intelligence and awareness without the ball , constantly on the move , adjusting his position, filling holes , blocking passing lanes , in a high block - so impressive for someone of that age , and when we had the ball , always looking to make an angle to receive the ball.

 

Id describe it personally as a very accomplished all round performance , and particularly for one his age

If you were desperately looking for any comment on his overall make up as a player , I can only suggest that he ideally would like an extra yard of pace, he’s certainly not slow , but compared to some he’s not blistering

It would help occasionally when he slips past somebody but he cant do much about that and compensates with his touch , opponent awareness and cleverness

Add to how easily he changed position in the game , and the trust in him to do so - He can literally play any role in middle of park , as a 10 , or wide in a three

I also think he has a real competitive edge to him , a bit of fire edging on ruthless if needed 

Another real tick for me

He even looks like he’s rolled out of a Manchester or Liverpool suburb , not Jersey

 

I really think his choice of destination when he departs is vital - I’d be totally looking for a side that are possession based 

 

Credit to the whole team , in their discipline and shape - very impressive , and bloody hell do we have some monsters coming through

Half The team were built like Linford Christie , as powerful , and nearly as quick , but with the technical ability of top end players - frightening

Did you spot the bit in the first half when Chucka broke forward.  Most players would have broken forward thinking about receiving a through ball later on.  Not Alex Scott.  He was marked (not tight, but his marker in-touch), so what did he do?  He stood still.  His marker continued running back towards goal, Chucka then had an easy passing option, sideways / slightly forward to Scott, who got it, opened his body, and sprayed a simple pass out to Norton-Cuffy bombing forward.

Just a simple example of his game maturity, and perhaps something he learned at Southampton, because Alan Ball snr, once said Matt Le Tissier is the best player at getting into space by standing still.  That wasn’t a dig at his laziness, it was a compliment of how some players think they have to run forwards, when your marker will always follow you.  By standing still your marker will often ease off getting tight, thinking you are no longer a danger.  It buys you time.

[chinapig]

51 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Did you spot the bit in the first half when Chucka broke forward.  Most players would have broken forward thinking about receiving a through ball later on.  Not Alex Scott.  He was marked (not tight, but his marker in-touch), so what did he do?  He stood still.  His marker continued running back towards goal, Chucka then had an easy passing option, sideways / slightly forward to Scott, who got it, opened his body, and sprayed a simple pass out to Norton-Cuffy bombing forward.

Just a simple example of his game maturity, and perhaps something he learned at Southampton, because Alan Ball snr, once said Matt Le Tissier is the best player at getting into space by standing still.  That wasn’t a dig at his laziness, it was a compliment of how some players think they have to run forwards, when your marker will always follow you.  By standing still your marker will often ease off getting tight, thinking you are no longer a danger.  It buys you time.

Great insight Dave thanks.

I'd add his great appreciation of angles. Passing angles certainly but particularly the angle at which to receive the ball, including body position.

It's these kinds of skills that make it better to play him as an 8 than as a 10 imo.

He's only going to get better so I hope we get to see another year or two here before he moves onwards and upwards.

[Davefevs]

Couldn’t agree more @chinapig

[Son of Fred]

10 hours ago, Davefevs said:

By standing still your marker will often ease off getting tight, thinking you are no longer a danger.  It buys you time

Couldn't agree more - a method applied by myself in the twilight of my footballing days...

All this talk of pace & movement - it's overrated imo.

[hinsleburg]

10 hours ago, chinapig said:

Great insight Dave thanks.

I'd add his great appreciation of angles. Passing angles certainly but particularly the angle at which to receive the ball, including body position.

It's these kinds of skills that make it better to play him as an 8 than as a 10 imo.

He's only going to get better so I hope we get to see another year or two here before he moves onwards and upwards.

Agree with this and the quoted post.

Very very good at finding pockets of space and angles to receive the ball. Whilst long term he may end up playing as a '10' would br interested in seeing him play a bit deeper and link the play. Despite not playing much its something Nagy was very good at for us, receiving deep and snspping off forward passes. I know Afobe gets a lot of credit for Palmers initial form but actually think Nagy made just as big a contribution in those few games before his injury.

Scott next to Williams/James would be interesting to see albeit they would both have lots of defensive work to do. But if we can get the ball forward through the midfield quicker will make us a far better side

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, hinsleburg said:

Scott next to Williams/James would be interesting to see albeit they would both have lots of defensive work to do. But if we can get the ball forward through the midfield quicker will make us a far better side

If we were to play a more 352, than 3412 early season, due to WSM missing S, I think perming 3 of the following 5 gives us a decent midfield - Williams, James, Massengo, Scott and Sykes.

[bpexile]

2 hours ago, Son of Fred said:

Couldn't agree more - a method applied by myself in the twilight of my footballing days...

All this talk of pace & movement - it's overrated imo.

Something I never had, what's that all about ?

Edited June 24, 2022 by bpexile

[Monkeh]

7 minutes ago, bpexile said:

Something I never had, what's that all about ?

Eat some prunes, that will help

[bpexile]

45 minutes ago, Monkeh said:

Eat some prunes, that will help

Gotcha

[The Bard]

On 22/06/2022 at 22:29, phantom said:

The worry of course, after hearing about how the men's team all under performed due to burnout how much will we get out of Scott before he's overplayed into next season? 

Or will he treat the World Cup break as his off season? 

Different scenario completely.   England's top players have barely stopped since restart 2 years ago.  

That's why they look so ragged. Should've all been rested.

Scott has played most of a season, had probably a 3 or 4 week break and is now playing games.  He will also get at least 3 weeks off in November/ December.