Cundy Signs For Barnsley

[Davefevs]

For a guy playing his formative games for City and at this level, he’s done pretty decently.

Big question for me is can we see him in the remaining 6 games playing in a back 4.  If that’s what we are going to use next season, let’s give him a chance to show what he can do there.

If that means Kalas playing RB, or Klose missing out, so be it.

A lot will depend on recruitment plans, but as it stands we need to go with what we have.

[The Original OTIB]

Got the attitude Pearson likes, not a quitter. Not a moaner. Gives his all.

[chinapig]

4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

For a guy playing his formative games for City and at this level, he’s done pretty decently.

Big question for me is can we see him in the remaining 6 games playing in a back 4.  If that’s what we are going to use next season, let’s give him a chance to show what he can do there.

If that means Kalas playing RB, or Klose missing out, so be it.

A lot will depend on recruitment plans, but as it stands we need to go with what we have.

Nigel has said more than once that he is a good defender. I'm not sure though if there is a but ... being implied. I don't think he has made up his mind yet.

[nick jones of hereford]

I’d be both surprised and disappointed if he wasn’t offered a contract. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

Got the attitude Pearson likes, not a quitter. Not a moaner. Gives his all.

He won’t get offered a new deal.

NP is looking for experience , Klose will get offered a deal but it may not be enough to get him to sign.

[Major Isewater]

3 minutes ago, Countryfile said:

He won’t get offered a new deal.

NP is looking for experience , Klose will get offered a deal but it may not be enough to get him to sign.

I love it when posters come on the forum and annonce their opinions as fact.

 

[Red Billy]

32 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

For a guy playing his formative games for City and at this level, he’s done pretty decently.

Big question for me is can we see him in the remaining 6 games playing in a back 4.  If that’s what we are going to use next season, let’s give him a chance to show what he can do there.

If that means Kalas playing RB, or Klose missing out, so be it.

A lot will depend on recruitment plans, but as it stands we need to go with what we have.

I think he will get a new deal off set by losing Taylor Moore and Vyner from the wage bill.  Would be interesting to see him in a four with Kalas at RB and Jay at LB. Not sure we have the right players fit to protect a back four though.

[bexhill reds]

23 minutes ago, nick jones of hereford said:

I’d be both surprised and disappointed if he wasn’t offered a contract. 

Exactly there’s a rugged ball winning centre half in there, much in the manager’s mould. I would be amazed if they didn’t offer a 2 + 1 deal, salary won’t be high, Baker possibly retiring (speculating - nothing more). We’d be mad not to.

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

I love it when posters come on the forum and annonce their opinions as fact.

 

I love it when people reply with a homosexual innuendo.

Keep my post in mind, it was an opinion, mine, which I thought was the point of forums.

[old_eastender]

A definite yes for me. Shows the heart & desire needed, sometimes gets caught out of position or caught flat footed BUT with more experience I reckon he makes a decent championship standard centre back. Gives his all.

[elhombrecito]

Yes. We'd struggle to get a player anywhere near his quality for the amount his new contract would cost us.

[HappyClapper]

I’ve got a feeling that Nige likes him. Challenged him to show he was worth a contract and he seems to be doing everything he can. I’m not sure whether he’ll prove to be good enough, but his contract would be on relatively low terms so all considered definitely worth the risk for me. He might just end up being part of a formidable partnership with Atkinson.

[Robbored]

Cundy is very raw to the Championship and personally I think he’s done pretty well given the step up in quality and obviously the more starts he gets the the more experience he gains.

No doubt at all that his rawness will be taken into consideration when discussing a contract but hopefully Nige has seen enough to take a punt on him.

[Gazred]

If he keeps getting the games and keeps playing as he has, it's an easy decision.

[Mr Chappers]

Thought the back 3 all did very well today against tough opponents. Well worth persisting with him whilst we are looking at lowering the wage bill. Raw, but improving with every game.

[RedRoss]

58 minutes ago, Countryfile said:

I love it when people reply with a homosexual innuendo.

Keep my post in mind, it was an opinion, mine, which I thought was the point of forums.

Huh?

[Lew-T]

He’s doing okay but I’m still not sure what his ceiling is?

Probably worth a gamble IMO.

[Davefevs]

I think Kalas will be off.

[Silvio Dante]

Yes.

Looking at his starts, I think he’s been 7-5-6-7/8 (where 6 is par). I think that’s more than acceptable as an “audition”.

[Curr Avon]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

For a guy playing his formative games for City and at this level, he’s done pretty decently.

Big question for me is can we see him in the remaining 6 games playing in a back 4.  If that’s what we are going to use next season, let’s give him a chance to show what he can do there.

If that means Kalas playing RB, or Klose missing out, so be it.

A lot will depend on recruitment plans, but as it stands we need to go with what we have.

Its a yes from me.

[HappyClapper]

7 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I think Kalas will be off.

I agree. I think it would suit everyone if he could find a club willing to pay us a reasonable fee.

[Son of Fred]

11 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

I’m still not sure what his ceiling is?

A high one

[bexhill reds]

4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I think Kalas will be off.

I think so too, the whole captain/ not captain thing, plus not looking wholly like the player we had on loan for much of the last 12 months, and the fact that we are nowhere near a league challenging team suggests that it could be a time to move on.

That said given that he really has had not much of a break with the Euros and World Cup qualifiers, perhaps he’s just been overworked, and this injury related break might do him the world of good both physically and mentally

[bexhill reds]

1 hour ago, Countryfile said:

I love it when people reply with a homosexual innuendo.

Keep my post in mind, it was an opinion, mine, which I thought was the point of forums.

I suspect it is / was a typo…

No reason for the Major to make any other point than disagreeing with your opinion, I think any other conclusion is a tad over-sensitive.

[nickolas]

To be honest, our defence has been a shambles all season so i see no real sense in keeping any cb at all, and we should go for a whole new crop. 
However i do like the look of Cundy and clearly wont break the bank for wages. 
I’d not keep Klose. Hes still been part of an average 2-goalsper game defence for conceding. 
Hopefully NP is lining up some dominant experience for next season.

[GrahamC]

44 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I think Kalas will be off.

If we can get a deal that suits both us & him, so do I.

I think we are using the last 10 games to get a decent look at Cundy & Klose, I expect both to be offered deals & an attempt made to move on both Moore & Vyner.

[petehinton]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

I think Kalas will be off.

Based on gut or anything else Dave? I think he’s got it pretty ******* sweet here on and off the field, so would be surprised 

[Coupon]

2 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Based on gut or anything else Dave? I think he’s got it pretty ******* sweet here on and off the field, so would be surprised 

I hope he'll be off, not because I don't like him, but because it will help us with wages and ffp.

[sh1t_ref_again]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

I think Kalas will be off.

Would not be disappointed, 

Thought Cundy was excellent today and hope he gets a contract 

[Davefevs]

12 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Based on gut or anything else Dave? I think he’s got it pretty ******* sweet here on and off the field, so would be surprised 

Well, the fact you’ve said that, completely changes my view.

My view was purely based on thinking he’s a saleable asset who costs us a shedload.  If we can re-contract him, then great - that cuts cost in itself.  If his “local lady” helps influence that, I’m all for it.

Edited April 2, 2022 by Davefevs

[Super]

Think he's done OK. Prob worth keeping considering the mess we are in.

[pongo88]

I think Cundy is a good low cost option, so  he should stay. If Pearson plays a back four he’ll need a minimum of 4 central defenders to allow for injury, loss of form and suspension. That could be Kallas, Atkinson, Klose and Cundy. I’ve not included Pring as he needs to cover left back / wing back. Should Pearson sign a new central defender in the summer he’ll still need Cundy in case he plays a back 3. To play this formation you need 5 defenders, again to allow for injury, loss of form, suspension. Although City has conceded a lot of goals this season the fault is not just due to the defence. The midfield has been weak and overrun in most matches meaning there is no respite from the opposition’s’ attacks. Most Championship defences would struggle playing behind City’s midfield 

[TRL]

1 hour ago, RedRoss said:

Huh?

take a look at the typo he/she is responding to... Then it makes sense

[1960maaan]

1 hour ago, Davefevs said:

I think Kalas will be off.

On finances, just into his last year I believe and being on £27k PW, possibly. Would he get that much anywhere else is the question . If we get offered a good amount to sell, hard to turn down. If he was willing to sign a new 3 year deal at reduced rates , then that changes.

All that could impact on the original question.

Personally, I've been impressed. I'd say Kalas, Klose, Cundy & Atkinson is a decent start to building a team. A back 4, if we go that way, of Kalas (RB) Klose Atkinson/Cundy Pring is a big strong robust back 4.

[Brann-red]

Cundy showed today also he could tackle, not just be good aerially  and did a few really good interceptions - I was impressed with his mobility - plus a tackle in the box that was just so clean . 
 

also - and this probably  seals why he should get a contract - he has his own chant now which I heard for the first time today. Given how many players have been here years and don’t still … then surely that’s a sign ?! 

[Rocking Red Cyril]

5 hours ago, Davefevs said:

For a guy playing his formative games for City and at this level, he’s done pretty decently.

Big question for me is can we see him in the remaining 6 games playing in a back 4.  If that’s what we are going to use next season, let’s give him a chance to show what he can do there.

If that means Kalas playing RB, or Klose missing out, so be it.

A lot will depend on recruitment plans, but as it stands we need to go with what we have.

Wise words as always Dave.

I have a bag of cockles please 

COYR

[Rocking Red Cyril]

3 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I think Kalas will be off.

Yes I get that feeling too. Wonder if a deal away already sorted. Hope we get done decent dollars for him 

[RobintheRed Red]

6 hours ago, Davefevs said:

For a guy playing his formative games for City and at this level, he’s done pretty decently.

Big question for me is can we see him in the remaining 6 games playing in a back 4.  If that’s what we are going to use next season, let’s give him a chance to show what he can do there.

If that means Kalas playing RB, or Klose missing out, so be it.

A lot will depend on recruitment plans, but as it stands we need to go with what we have.

Kids doing well with the shit in the squad hes one of our main hopes hope pearson sees this .

[Numero Uno]

12 hours ago, Tafkarmlf said:

I don't think Cundy has done owt wrong tbh, decent player in there, be daft not to re contact tbh. 

No brainier. Low cost, low risk option that you could move on to League 1 in a single telephone call if he wasn’t working out.

[exAtyeoMax]

IMO, yes  

[tin]

On what I’ve seen so far, Cundy’s worth a new two-year deal with the option of a third. He’s got the attributes, desire and crucially the right attitude to succeed at this level, and should develop further with more experience. 

[LondonBristolian]

19 hours ago, chinapig said:

Nigel has said more than once that he is a good defender. I'm not sure though if there is a but ... being implied. I don't think he has made up his mind yet.

I wonder if the “but” is simply the fact we already have Kalas, Vyner, Moore, Atkinson and Baker under contract plus Pring who can play centre back and Towler who could be called on in an emergency.

We may not think Vyner and Moore are good enough and there may be rumours that Baker is about to call time on his career but the fact remains as it stand that they are all on the books. It may be that Pearson needs confidence on at least one or two players moving on before we can offer anything to Cundy or Klose for next season.

Edited April 3, 2022 by LondonBristolian

[Oh Louie louie]

His run in the side, i think hes been one of our better players.

Been given a chance, and taken it.

A yes for me.

[GrahamC]

38 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said:

I wonder if the “but” is simply the fact we already have Kalas, Vyner, Moore, Atkinson and Baker under contract plus Pring who can play centre back and Towler who could be called on in an emergency.

We may not think Vyner and Moore are good enough and there may be rumours that Baker is about to call time on his career but the fact remains as it stand that they are all on the books. It may be that Pearson needs confidence on at least one or two players moving on before we can offer anything to Cundy or Klose for next season.

Agree, all I’d add is despite nothing being made public for obvious reasons, I expect the club has a pretty good idea by now what the score is with Baker & Klose was effectively brought in as his replacement, whether that was for the short term or permanently will become clear in the summer.

We do have a lot of central defenders on our books & sorting out the futures of all of them bar Atkinson will certainly be a big part of the summer’s business.

[The Bard]

5 hours ago, GrahamC said:

Agree, all I’d add is despite nothing being made public for obvious reasons, I expect the club has a pretty good idea by now what the score is with Baker & Klose was effectively brought in as his replacement, whether that was for the short term or permanently will become clear in the summer.

We do have a lot of central defenders on our books & sorting out the futures of all of them bar Atkinson will certainly be a big part of the summer’s business.

What would be Cundy's wage expectations? 

Absolute no brainer. 3/4  year deal. He will get a number of offers from league 1   We may struggle to  keep him if he doesn't think he'll play...

[LondonBristolian]

17 minutes ago, The Bard said:

What would be Cundy's wage expectations? 

Absolute no brainer. 3/4  year deal. He will get a number of offers from league 1   We may struggle to  keep him if he doesn't think he'll play...

The one note of caution I'd sound is that we're in the situation where we're overstocked with defenders who aren't good enough because 18 months ago Vyner and Moore started the season brilliantly, we were top of the table and six games in it seemed an "absolute no brainer" to offer them both 3/4 year deals, a decision which - whilst few would admit it now - was supported by an overwhelming majority of our supporters at the time.  

Cundy has looked good but he's not the first central defender to come into the team and look good in recent seasons. Continued good form is far from guaranteed. 

[Davefevs]

Sensible post

[GrahamC]

1 hour ago, The Bard said:

What would be Cundy's wage expectations? 

Absolute no brainer. 3/4  year deal. He will get a number of offers from league 1   We may struggle to  keep him if he doesn't think he'll play...

I’d certainly not offer him any more than 2 years, he has started 4 Championship games in his career & has had a few injuries.

Guess £5k a week?

[Davefevs]

1 minute ago, GrahamC said:

I’d certainly not offer him any more than 2 years, he has started 4 Championship games in his career & has had a few injuries.

Guess £5k a week?

My guess - a 1 yr + 1 yr option at around £3k p.w.

[The Bard]

10 hours ago, Davefevs said:

My guess - a 1 yr + 1 yr option at around £3k p.w.

How is that going to compare to a reasonably competitive league 1 side who will probably say to him you'll be our starting CB?

[The Bard]

11 hours ago, LondonBristolian said:

The one note of caution I'd sound is that we're in the situation where we're overstocked with defenders who aren't good enough because 18 months ago Vyner and Moore started the season brilliantly, we were top of the table and six games in it seemed an "absolute no brainer" to offer them both 3/4 year deals, a decision which - whilst few would admit it now - was supported by an overwhelming majority of our supporters at the time.  

Cundy has looked good but he's not the first central defender to come into the team and look good in recent seasons. Continued good form is far from guaranteed. 

Good post but I would say that Cundy has come into a side struggling defensively so, unlike the situation your describe, he is actually being stressed tested now.  Dealing with Solanke etc is going to give him more confidence long term and a clear indication of what is needed to be a good CB at this level.  That in itself makes it an absolute no brainer to get him a deal.  Retaining players like him as nominally our 4th choice CB is very good business.  We need to look at our 1st choice one IMO.  Great defender but offers nothing in the way of leadership or control in games.  We need to fix that. 

[Mattredrobin]

 I've been told Cundy has been told he can leave the club in the summer, just by someone I was chatting too on social media so how reliable they are not to sure, this was before he'd started games so be strange if that was the case as I feel he has done great since he's been in the side.

[bcfc01]

11 hours ago, billywedlock said:

Cundy looks ok . But is he top 10 ok ? I have no idea . We seem to jump on players as “ looking good “ then kill the managers when they are found wanting over an extended period . Is Cundy a play off level CB ? I don’t think any of the fans really know yet . 

Possibly - in a play off level team.

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, The Bard said:

How is that going to compare to a reasonably competitive league 1 side who will probably say to him you'll be our starting CB?

Depends who he went to.  My guess is that for several sides £3k would be a good wage.  But if it was Ipswich or the like, it would be low.

[Major Isewater]

48 minutes ago, Mattredrobin said:

 I've been told Cundy has been told he can leave the club in the summer, just by someone I was chatting too on social media so how reliable they are not to sure, this was before he'd started games so be strange if that was the case as I feel he has done great since he's been in the side.

The modern day equivalent of a ‘ bloke down the pub’

Edited April 4, 2022 by Major Isewater

[Riaz]

I'd give him another 2 years and see how he gets on.

[Shuffle]

1 hour ago, Mattredrobin said:

 I've been told Cundy has been told he can leave the club in the summer, just by someone I was chatting too on social media so how reliable they are not to sure, this was before he'd started games so be strange if that was the case as I feel he has done great since he's been in the side.

In fairness to poster, I understand that he was told he could leave in January but the situation has changed massively since he’s got into the side.  Would we really be playing him if he had no future as what would point be.  Cundy has done a Dasilva in terms of changing perception. 

[The Bard]

1 hour ago, Mattredrobin said:

 I've been told Cundy has been told he can leave the club in the summer, just by someone I was chatting too on social media so how reliable they are not to sure, this was before he'd started games so be strange if that was the case as I feel he has done great since he's been in the side.

Amazing.

I've been told that he's been offered a contract.

That's by someone who is normally reliable.

[Mattredrobin]

36 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

The modern day equivalent of a ‘ bloke down the pub’

Of course I get that hence why when I was told I could've posted on here but I did not because I was not sure how reliable that guy was ( it was'nt in january I was told either was quiet recent ) i hope he is wrong and cundy does get an extended stay.

[Mattredrobin]

23 minutes ago, The Bard said:

Amazing.

I've been told that he's been offered a contract.

That's by someone who is normally reliable.

haha god knows then just wait and see could be a case of he was told he was'nt being offered one, but has proven Pearson wrong and now will be 

[LondonBristolian]

2 hours ago, The Bard said:

Good post but I would say that Cundy has come into a side struggling defensively so, unlike the situation your describe, he is actually being stressed tested now.  Dealing with Solanke etc is going to give him more confidence long term and a clear indication of what is needed to be a good CB at this level.  That in itself makes it an absolute no brainer to get him a deal.  Retaining players like him as nominally our 4th choice CB is very good business.  We need to look at our 1st choice one IMO.  Great defender but offers nothing in the way of leadership or control in games.  We need to fix that. 

I definitely think we should offer him a contract - even if I think the number of central defenders already may complicate things. I'm just not sure I'd be rushing to a three or four year deal. I'd go for a one year deal with a club option for an extension and think that flexibility would suit both sides. In a year's time we can cut our losses if Cundy does not sustain his form or keep him on for a year if he does. If he forces himself into regular first team contention, it will be in both his interest and ours to sign a longer contract on a higher wage but I'd not do that until he's established himself a bit more. 

[Jerseybean]

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/cundy-bristol-city-new-deal-6902585
 

[Lanterne Rouge]

8 hours ago, Mattredrobin said:

haha god knows then just wait and see could be a case of he was told he was'nt being offered one, but has proven Pearson wrong and now will be 

It may be that the Nathan Baker situation has become clearer since January perhaps?

[Mattredrobin]

18 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

It may be that the Nathan Baker situation has become clearer since January perhaps?

Yes that definetly could be a factor. 

[Red-Robbo]

On 02/04/2022 at 21:36, TRL said:

take a look at the typo he/she is responding to... Then it makes sense

 

Except N.O.N.C_ means "paedophile", not "homosexual".  (You can't write the word on this forum)

Edited April 5, 2022 by Red-Robbo

[TRL]

48 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Except N.O.N.C_ means "paedophile", not "homosexual".  (You can't write the word on this forum)

true, but its clear what he or she was referring to, the typo

[SecretSam]

On 02/04/2022 at 18:42, Countryfile said:

I love it when people reply with a homosexual innuendo.

What on earth are you on about?

[Guest]

On 04/04/2022 at 10:43, Mattredrobin said:

haha god knows then just wait and see could be a case of he was told he was'nt being offered one, but has proven Pearson wrong and now will be 

I think this is possibly true, and if it is why would he then want to sign for NP?

[Guest]

On 04/04/2022 at 10:18, The Bard said:

Amazing.

I've been told that he's been offered a contract.

That's by someone who is normally reliable.

I guess this is a case of when was he offered a contract, because he was told he could leave earlier in the season.

All the signs from NP seem to me to say he wants proven experience in the first instance, Simpson, King, James all fit that bill.

The resigning of Baker and Weimann says the same.

Atkinson and Tanner were both ‘ones for the future’ when signed.

Cundy is less experienced than both of those two, NP wants consistency of performance, that doesn’t always come from inexperienced players.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Except N.O.N.C_ means "paedophile", not "homosexual".  (You can't write the word on this forum)

Look I’m sorry to have caused such a ruckus, I was just having a bit of fun, and not knowing the meaning of the word contained in the typo, looks like the jokes on me

I always enjoy the majors take on things….