Harry Cornick Signs (Confirmed)

[Major Isewater]

1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Could yeah. Would be interesting to see how it goes, what would we do in Luton's position I wonder.

6 months left, chasing playoffs- okay financial position, Cornick not been so productive this year but impressive before that.

What would we do...or would we back ourselves to get a swift replacement- Bree sold but Drameh on loan, Jerome released.

It would depend on 

[!james]

So nothing tonight then...

[Brann-red]

3 minutes ago, TomF said:

Given he’s cup tied, might we announce it at half time tomorrow? 

That was my inkling .. I reckon this will be the case .. !

[Kid in the Riot]

35 minutes ago, TomF said:

Given he’s cup tied, might we announce it at half time tomorrow? 

All eyes on whether he's in the Luton squad tomorrow for their cup game against Grimsby

[petehinton]

Twitter must be down, can’t see that he’s signed. Same for anyone else

[formerly known as ivan]

1 hour ago, TomF said:

Given he’s cup tied, might we announce it at half time tomorrow? 

Don’t teams do that for big signings?

[Rudolf Hucker]

1 hour ago, TomF said:

Given he’s cup tied, might we announce it at half time tomorrow? 

If they announce it over the tannoy at half time, those of us in the Dolman will never get to know about it. 

[Stockwood gate]

6 hours ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

That Crewe game was the one when John Ward went into the Atyeo corner and then along the walkway of the Dolman before the game shaking hands with fans and asking for support.

Remember it well as I was one of them.

It certainly worked in that game, the City team and fans inspired by Colin Cramb from the first minute irrc., but of course he was sacked about a month later.

I thought that was a Friday night home to Bolton when wardy came into the Atyeo next day he was gone 

[leadman]

currently have 2 fit strikers and one of those is sam bell.

distinct lack of physicality up top, even after weiman and conway(way off) return.

we need 2 in, cornick and a target man on loan should be our minimum requirement's.

only 6 points above the drop remember.   

[W-S-M Seagull]

8 minutes ago, leadman said:

currently have 2 fit strikers and one of those is sam bell.

distinct lack of physicality up top, even after weiman and conway(way off) return.

we need 2 in, cornick and a target man on loan should be our minimum requirement's.

only 6 points above the drop remember.   

Do we if Pearson is set on playing 433? 

I'd say we need someone that can play on the left more tbh. 

[SuperRed]

5 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Do we if Pearson is set on playing 433? 

I'd say we need someone that can play on the left more tbh. 

With Conway out for a while yet we have no competition / different type of option off the bench suited to the central striker role. Given our precarious position, I think it’s pretty important we look to get someone in to fill that role and someone who can play on the left. 

[GrahamC]

5 hours ago, leadman said:

currently have 2 fit strikers and one of those is sam bell.

distinct lack of physicality up top, even after weiman and conway(way off) return.

we need 2 in, cornick and a target man on loan should be our minimum requirement's.

only 6 points above the drop remember.   

Martin is fit, but we are choosing not to select him.

If he’s still here by February 1st we may have to compromise if we get further injuries or suspensions.

Edited January 28, 2023 by GrahamC

[Loosey Boy]

12 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Martin is fit, but we are choosing not to select him.

If he’s still here by February 1st we may have to compromise if we get further injuries or suspensions.

I think it’s pretty evident that he won’t play for us again - didn’t even make the bench for the FA Cup replay when we had spaces to fill

Bridges totally burnt between him and NP?

[DaveF]

1 minute ago, Loosey Boy said:

I think it’s pretty evident that he won’t play for us again - didn’t even make the bench for the FA Cup replay when we had spaces to fill

Bridges totally burnt between him and NP?

Why does there always have to be a conspiracy? Could just be that he's surplus to requirements and looking for a new team.

[GrahamC]

1 minute ago, Loosey Boy said:

I think it’s pretty evident that he won’t play for us again - didn’t even make the bench for the FA Cup replay when we had spaces to fill

Bridges totally burnt between him and NP?

Obvious we are trying to get him to leave before the window closes & Pearson doesn’t appear to change his mind on older players (Klose too) once he’s made a decision.

It is not impossible though that say we only bring 1 player in next week, Conway’s injury looks to me to mean he’s going to struggle to play too much more this season & should we then lose another through injury or suspension that we are short.

In these specific circumstances & depending on how we are doing in the league he could possibly come back into contention.

Unlikely, I admit, I don’t see any circumstances in which Klose or Massengo feature though.

[M.D]

I have a feeling its contractual reasons with Martin and HNM, Martin is a contract extension with appearances and with HNM, a fee to Monaco after 100 games.

[formerly known as ivan]

17 minutes ago, TomF said:

Yeah fair point but we’ve done it for a few lesser ones too 

You are right. We done it for Sam Baldock but that was seen as a marquee signing. We also done it for Jamie Paterson as well…

[petehinton]

33 minutes ago, M.D said:

I have a feeling its contractual reasons with Martin and HNM, Martin is a contract extension with appearances and with HNM, a fee to Monaco after 100 games.

People seem to love to keep saying this conspiracy (seen it posted on Twitter now as well) but HNM has already played over 100 games all in….

 

[City oz]

I can see BS3 going nuts when he does score his first goal.

[Marina's Rolls Royce]

10 hours ago, Rudolf Hucker said:

If they announce it over the tannoy at half time, those of us in the Dolman will never get to know about it. 

Is that because most of the Dolman will have left by then to beat the traffic?

[WRERE]

22 minutes ago, petehinton said:

People seem to love to keep saying this conspiracy (seen it posted on Twitter now as well) but HNM has already played over 100 games all in….

 

Generally the clause is only for league games which he's currently on 99. I agree though, I think the whole 100 appearance fee clause is total bs

[cidered abroad]

33 minutes ago, City oz said:

I can see BS3 going nuts when he does score his first goal.

It's clear that Pearson will not play HNM again.

Edited January 28, 2023 by cidered abroad

[mozo]

The reason people are looking for a conspiracy is that it simply makes no sense that HNM is banished. There's something going on that we don't know, whatever that may be.

[alexukhc]

5 minutes ago, mozo said:

The reason people are looking for a conspiracy is that it simply makes no sense that HNM is banished. There's something going on that we don't know, whatever that may be.

I thought that but looking at his stats he is on 99 league games so see some truth in that 

[brad blit]

Maybe cos HNM hasnt performed well enough in training and games to warrant a start 

Edited January 28, 2023 by brad blit

[robin_unreliant]

1 hour ago, M.D said:

I have a feeling its contractual reasons with Martin and HNM, Martin is a contract extension with appearances and with HNM, a fee to Monaco after 100 games.

NP said in one of his pressers that he didn't know anything about him being on 99 games. So either he was telling porkies or this isn't right. To be clear, I see no reason why he would deny it, even if it was true as he is pretty open about most things.

[GrahamC]

1 hour ago, petehinton said:

People seem to love to keep saying this conspiracy (seen it posted on Twitter now as well) but HNM has already played over 100 games all in….

 

Plus people keep on repeating this, but even if it was based on 100 league games only (& he is on 99 there) he was subsequently on the bench at home to Watford, which is then completely illogical if this was true.

I also can’t believe Martin’s year extension that he triggered last March would contain a clause for yet another year afterwards. He’s got a bloody good agent, if it does.

[mozo]

17 minutes ago, brad blit said:

Maybe cos HNM hasnt performed well enough in training and games to warrant a start 

Sorry editing because I might have got the wrong point...

He's been good enough for us ever since he joined. What changed?

Edited January 28, 2023 by mozo

[Sir Geoff]

19 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said:

NP said in one of his pressers that he didn't know anything about him being on 99 games. So either he was telling porkies or this isn't right. To be clear, I see no reason why he would deny it, even if it was true as he is pretty open about most things.

No way he is going to openly admit to not playing someone due to a clause in their contract. Also the way he answered the question led me to a different view to you. He knows darn well that HNM is on 99 games.

[steviestevieneville]

2 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

No way he is going to openly admit to not playing someone due to a clause in their contract. Also the way he answered the question led me to a different view to you. He knows darn well that HNM is on 99 games.

I watched the interview , you’re seeing things that ain’t there. 

[glynriley]

9 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Plus people keep on repeating this, but even if it was based on 100 league games only (& he is on 99 there) he was subsequently on the bench at home to Watford, which is then completely illogical if this was true.

 

There's also no reason he couldn't be in the squad for cup games. I just think NP has washed his hands of him.

[Leveller]

39 minutes ago, mozo said:

Sorry editing because I might have got the wrong point...

He's been good enough for us ever since he joined. What changed?

He had some good games but more bad ones.

[Tom]

Anyway, Harry Cornick. Is he any good? 

[old_eastender]

back on topic, I'm underwhelmed at potentially signing 27 year old Cornick. Ogbene or Nombe would be much more exciting and ones who might improve in the future.

Edited January 28, 2023 by old_eastender

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, WRERE said:

Generally the clause is only for league games which he's currently on 99. I agree though, I think the whole 100 appearance fee clause is total bs

I disagree.  When I’ve looked at the legal sites re PFCC (tribunal / compo), every transfer they ruled on had different stipulations.  Where they used a standard 20, 40, 60 type clause it was appearances (not League), where it deviated away from that it was mixed between appearances and league appearances.  Here’s a screenshot of one of the less standard ones:

His career didn’t quite have the trajectory expected!  Still only 29…he’s at Barnet!

As for Massengo, I’ve no idea whether there us even a clause, let alone whether it’s league or all appearances.

If it is 100 league appearances, then putting him on the bench before Xmas would seem strange.

 

[DaveF]

15 minutes ago, old_eastender said:

back on topic, I'm underwhelmed at potentially signing 27 year old Cornick. Ogbene or Nombe would be much more exciting and ones who might improve in the future.

Why? He should be a decent signing for quite cheap. He also might not be our only signing.

Ogbene looks to be going to Boro and I'd imagine Nombe would be too expensive.

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

I quite like Cornick, he certainly seems to play well against us, but as he's fundamentally a winger he's likely to be inconsistent. His form this season looks a bit of a mystery. According to the Luton website he's played 738 minutes spread over 19 games. However, of the 19 games only 7 were starts and he got subbed off in 6. The problem is these are only bare statistics. Has he only made 7 starts because he's out of favour, out of form or doesn't fit the tactical plan? Has he been subbed off because he was playing poorly, because the manager changed formation, or because he'd run himself into the ground? I think I'll just trust NP and his staff. 

[soultrader]

23 hours ago, Winterstoke toad said:

Luton absolutely love us

 

Last line reminds me of Life of Brian

What have the Lansdowns ever done for us?

etc etc

[Major Isewater]

1 hour ago, Sir Geoff said:

No way he is going to openly admit to not playing someone due to a clause in their contract. Also the way he answered the question led me to a different view to you. He knows darn well that HNM is on 99 games.

So you’re calling Pearson a liar. 

[RedRoss]

1 hour ago, mozo said:

Sorry editing because I might have got the wrong point...

He's been good enough for us ever since he joined. What changed?

He has no intention of signing a new deal and hasn't for a long time. That's why he's out the team.

[Sir Colby-Tit]

20 hours ago, cityexile said:

He did not do much, but my abiding memory of Anderson was away v Sunderland. Live on Sky (a rarity for us), where we got completely and utterly stuffed, he comes on at one nil down and belts in an equalizer late on. Good goal, but across the match completely undeserved point.

It was a complete robbery, but it was easy to see across the 90 who would finish higher that season.

I remember that game for a different reason.

Drank far too much cider before the game, went for a slash in the first half, sat back in my seat and then realised that I'd somehow managed to lose my way and was actually sitting in with the Sunderland fans, with my City shirt on!

A couple of coppers came over and escorted me back to the City section, and I got a few cheers

[Fordy62]

53 minutes ago, old_eastender said:

back on topic, I'm underwhelmed at potentially signing 27 year old Cornick. Ogbene or Nombe would be much more exciting and ones who might improve in the future.

Watch the video. He looks very good. 

[Nogbad the Bad]

12 hours ago, Stockwood gate said:

I thought that was a Friday night home to Bolton when wardy came into the Atyeo next day he was gone 

Definitely the Crewe game.

Ward may well have done similar later v Bolton but I don't remember that.

[mozo]

22 minutes ago, RedRoss said:

He has no intention of signing a new deal and hasn't for a long time. That's why he's out the team.

Semenyo was going to move un the summer. Had no intention of signing a new contract. Angled for a move this window. We treated him very differently. Both players can contribute to the first team (more so Antoine obvs).

I'll stop now because I go round know the same circles with different people on different threads. 

[The Bard]

2 hours ago, mozo said:

The reason people are looking for a conspiracy is that it simply makes no sense that HNM is banished. There's something going on that we don't know, whatever that may be.

It makes absolute sense. He's leaving so waiting to get off the bus.  He's also not intrinsic to the team.  

[Red Army 75]

Maybe Massengo should have his own thread.

[bexhill reds]

1 hour ago, RedRoss said:

He has no intention of signing a new deal and hasn't for a long time. That's why he's out the team.

Not signing, 2 decent academy midfielders coming through who by definition will be hungrier, so he’s now become replaceable. As Pearson highlighted in a recent press conference, HNM has chosen a path that his is entitled to and suits his purpose but there are consequences for him of doing that. He’ll play him if he needs to, but with the new formation there are arguably 3/4 players ahead of him.

 

[bexhill reds]

50 minutes ago, mozo said:

Semenyo was going to move un the summer. Had no intention of signing a new contract. Angled for a move this window. We treated him very differently. Both players can contribute to the first team (more so Antoine obvs).

I'll stop now because I go round know the same circles with different people on different threads. 

Semenyo may or may not have been signing a new contract, but he was not out of contract this summer which is the basic difference. As I said on a previous post there are now 3/4 players in front of him for a midfield slot including 2 academy players. No agenda, just circumstances combined with a manager that wants committed players.

[Midred]

Is this the Harry Cornick thread?

(Perhaps we should just have one thread where anyone could talk about anything!)

[ORANGE500]

3 hours ago, mozo said:

The reason people are looking for a conspiracy is that it simply makes no sense that HNM is banished. There's something going on that we don't know, whatever that may be.

If his performances  were  anywhere near as good as some incredulously think it wouldn't matter about his contract situation Pearson would play him every week. He's been 4 out of 10 on average throughout his time at City so hardly irreplaceable or first name on the team sheet and is no real loss to the match day squad and needs to move on.

[AppyDAZE]

43 minutes ago, Midred said:

Is this the Harry Cornick thread?

(Perhaps we should just have one thread where anyone could talk about anything!)

Did you know that the average elephant is pregnant for the best part of two years?

[Agard Days Night]

2 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

Did you know that the average elephant is pregnant for the best part of two years?

Even the males?

[Sturny]

Just now, Agard Days Night said:

Even the males?

No, you’re safe 

[italian dave]

And, did you know that if you’ve got two legs then you’ve got more than the average? 

[Nugget]

Cornick starting for Luton 

[GrahamC]

Starts for Luton today.

[Midred]

7 minutes ago, italian dave said:

And, did you know that if you’ve got two legs then you’ve got more than the average? 

Is this the elephant sub thread?

[!james]

2 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Starts for Luton today.

Going to be awkward when we announce him signing at half time then...

[Kodjias Wrist]

Its only Grimsby at home in all fairness. He wants first team championship football and from what I saw from Luton fans hes played well in his recent appearances. Hard to read into this one. 

[AshtonRobin21]

It will be interesting to hear Nige’s comments after todays game.

Should help to clear things up.

[BrizzleRed]

49 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Starts for Luton today.

Looks like we can cross him off the list then.

[RobArnold10]

If he’s starting then I can’t imagine we have agreed a fee. So maybe looking but certainly not happening today like people thought!

[BrizzleRed]

7 minutes ago, Percy Pig said:

Not necessarily. Could be a "goodbye" game for him. Been there a good while. 

 

Could be, though unusual to risk a possible injury.  

Guess it could also be an indication of how much Luton want to keep him, that they’d risk that possibility I suppose.

[Northern Red]

Played an hour.

[GrahamC]

Both Woodrow & Morris are injured so no surprise he started, but with Jerome leaving yesterday they’ll want a replacement if they are going to let him go.

[Gillies Downs Leeds]

46 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Both Woodrow & Morris are injured so no surprise he started, but with Jerome leaving yesterday they’ll want a replacement if they are going to let him go.

Woodrow and Morris both came on in second half.

[Davefevs]

Think today puts Cornick’s signing into doubt.

38 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Both Woodrow & Morris are injured so no surprise he started, but with Jerome leaving yesterday they’ll want a replacement if they are going to let him go.

Even more so.

Nige seemed chilled post-match, so assume he thinks deals will be done this week.

[Curr Avon]

12 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said:

Woodrow and Morris both came on in second half.

Its a miracle!

[petehinton]

I don’t think him playing today is a huge issue personally. Semenyo played last week, Brownhill played two days before leaving for Burnley etc

[Davefevs]

9 minutes ago, petehinton said:

I don’t think him playing today is a huge issue personally. Semenyo played last week, Brownhill played two days before leaving for Burnley etc