Hull City away match day thread

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

Here we go again! Dodgy pen and a stoppage time deflected goal. I don't want it but VAR in the Championship would surely have overturned the pen.

We didn't play well 2nd half but should still have come away with a point. Oh well we go again against Sunderland next week. 

Edited July 30, 2022 by RoystonFoote'snephew
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[DCT10]

Hull weren't even trying to win today.... horrible team full of late tackles and timewasting. Our performance wasn't bad but no help from the ref and of course we'd let in a last minute deflected goal.... that's how we roll!

[And Its Smith]

Make your own luck. If we close him down we don’t get the ‘bad luck’

[Red Exile]

Wow. That refereeing! Disgraceful. 
 

[sh1t_ref_again]

4 minutes ago, Southport Red said:

See, now a deflected goal can be the result of sitting back too much, but NOT a bent refereeing decision. 

You either were not watching the match or have not a a clue what you are talking about, Hull were pinned back, trying to waste time before the ball broke up field and goal came from that

[robin_unreliant]

It isn't just bad luck when you try to sit back on a 1-0 lead. Seems the mental weakness is still very much there. 

[Mihai]

Horrible game. I was pretty positive after the first half. But oh my god... I wish I didn't look at the second half. I don't blame the team but horrible game to watch, that 50-50 penalty and this ******* deflection. The game had to be a draw, no team deserved to win but Hull had their luck. Starting with a win away could be great but even so, the season is just starting. We can do better, we can win games.

I don't know where can we be but for sure we can finish better than last season, we need Baker and Semenyo.

[ZumerZetSmithy]

Felt we deserve the points   bit gutting 

 

[bexhill reds]

Disappointing result, created enough chances, apart from the shot that hit the post Hull and one Bents save, Hull did not creat much in spite of their possession. 
 

Cant  do much about a ref who decides to magic a pen out of thin air, and seemingly allow Sykes to be kicked off the park, and then a dodgy deflection right at the end.

Perhaps a bit too slow to move the ball at times, but no reason not to be confident for the season though

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

4 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

For me I wasn’t going into this new season with huge levels of confidence, Naismith the signing who I think is a great addition, Sykes and Wilson more developmental - apart from that, it’s much the same as last time round.

That said, our line up today with Kalas and Semenyo still to come back is surely a top half team.

I watched the first half and it was good, great at times. Naismith excellent in the centre - excellent distribution that Semenyo will thrive on when he’s back.

Sykes impressed, a great half - some Oxford fans said he was a poor man’s O’Dowda, but it felt like he made more interceptions and tackles in half a game than COD did in half a season while still threatening going forwards, highlight was the skill a cross to set up James with a great chance.

But it turned into the classic game of two halves by the sound of it and suddenly it’s last season again, unable to get any sort of sustained possession when under pressure, and we start with a loss.

So I guess we’ll see - is this seasons City the first half version or the second half version? More of the second and we can stop talking about the top 10…

I’d also add - looking at James and Williams in the centre, lose one or two of them (and history suggests that’s very possible) and we look weak there. 

Yes unlucky with the penalty and the deflection - but not a great start to the season. Onwards and upwards hopefully.

I thought we played well throughout, and deserved to win.  Disgraceful exhibition by several of the Hull players.

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, The Bard said:

 He clears it and we stand and watch.  That was the problem

Poor clearance. It was a free header under no challenge whatsoever, nobody near him. You don't head it central to the edge of your box. I do agree that someone was "missing" on the edge too but if he gets a proper header on it that is immaterial.

[MC RISK77]

1 minute ago, petehinton said:

Anyone unhappy with that couldn’t have been at the game. In total control for large parts, beaten by horrific officiating (again) and a shot that took an unbelievable deflection. They were time wasting at 1-1 which says it all. 

In total control for large parts of the game but couldn’t kill them off- sounds familiar.

You make your own luck

[luke_bristol]

30 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

Hull penalty decision: https://streamja.com/JKoNJ

Hull goal: https://streamja.com/gwrnz

That’s a ******* disgrace

[Jerseybean]

Sometimes football is cruel, a very dubious penalty and a deflection off TK means we return home empty-handed, despite a solid and professional performance.

Thought we played well overall, our shape looked good, credit to the new signings all looked an upgrade. 

Hull FANS will know they were fortunate to win that, a draw would have been a fairer reflection IMO. 

 

 

 

[Redrascal2]

Nothing ever seems to change. It just seems to just carry on and on. 

[Mr Popodopolous]

4 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

The winner was a poor header by Klose in my opinion. That was a FREE HEADER and to head it there was poor and then it was him that deflected it in..........nothing to do with sitting back, just a mistake from the Centre Half.

Ah but excessive sitting back/being forced excessively deep, lot of pressure- cumulative, physical, mental. Two can feed into the other IMO.

[cidercity1987]

3 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

It is incredible that last season we had both the fewest penalties awarded & the most conceded.

That cannot be coincidental or simply bad luck.

He walked twice , two different feet on the ground before falling over 

******* hell

[The Bard]

3 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

It is incredible that last season we had both the fewest penalties awarded & the most conceded.

That cannot be coincidental or simply bad luck.

The ref showed all the signs in the first half that he had at least one whopping error up his sleeves and so it proved...

 

[petehinton]

Just now, MC RISK77 said:

In total control for large parts of the game but couldn’t kill them off- sounds familiar.

You make your own luck

We didn’t need to kill them off imo. They were creating absolutely nothing. I’m far happier as a fan of us, based on how we played, despite losing compared to how Hull were 

[ExiledAjax]

A gutwrencher of a winner and a very soft penalty are hard to take. But I think there was actually bits to encourage us all there. Not many clear cut chances, but some breaks that a bit of Semenyo's pace could have used.

Sykes was excellent in the first 30 and I thought Naismith played well. A shame Williams and Scott were quiet, but they'll come good in other games.

Hard loss to take, but we can build on this. 

[Red Exile]

I’ve been critical of the Landowns in the past. But  - thank heavens when it comes to our relationship with our owners we are a club with some dignity. 

[sh1t_ref_again]

1 minute ago, westonred said:

Ref was a disgrace how he never booked anyone i dont know, they should have had 3 or 4 players booked maybe 2 of them sent off a shocking penalty the guy just fell over this is what you get from Turkish Refs

Thought he did book the LB early, then ignored all his fouls otherwise he has to send him off

[CyderHead92]

So I take it vyner played well?

[BigTone]

Get over it. We lost. Upwards & onwards. A lot of positives can be taken from the game.

[HOZDA]

Really, really unlucky and tough to take. That's how it goes sometimes. I'm sure there will be games across the season we don't deserve to win but do! 

Gutted but still encouraged and optimistic!

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

7 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said:

It isn't just bad luck when you try to sit back on a 1-0 lead. Seems the mental weakness is still very much there. 

I didn’t see us sit back on a 1-0 lead.  Yes, we had to defend at times, but we showed attacking intent throughout, and especially once Conway was on.  ‘Mental weakness’?  What’s that all about?  We lost to a penalty which shouldn’t have been given and a deflection to a shot that was going nowhere.  You do realise that there are two teams in a football match and the away team often has to defend for long periods?  Also we were having to deal with criminally bad refereeing and appalling behaviour from the Hull players.  And you put it down to our ‘mental weakness’???

Edited July 30, 2022 by The Dolman Pragmatist

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Ah but excessive sitting back/being forced excessively deep, lot of pressure- cumulative, physical, mental. Two can feed into the other IMO.

Somebody at the game just said their goal came from a set piece they earned on the break after we had pressed them back following a period when THEY were wasting time. Are they wrong? Which one was it, excessive defending or caught on the break? If they are right you can't have it all your own way. A poor header is a poor header particularly from a player with so much experience and know how.

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

3 minutes ago, CyderHead92 said:

So I take it vyner played well?

Yes he did.

[old_eastender]

1 minute ago, CyderHead92 said:

So I take it vyner played well?

Generally OK, perhaps lucky not to concede a pen in the first half when he let his man get in front of him, but balance that with an assist for our goal.

 

[Super]

3 minutes ago, CyderHead92 said:

So I take it vyner played well?

Very well I thought. Credit to him.

[Gert Mare]

Cruel luck and poor refereeing decision. A game we should not have lost, but apart from Weimann’s goal we didn’t create much. Atkinson should have had a penalty. I haven’t seen a takedown like that since Swindon against Flint.

Should have been 3 points today but we let Hull back into the game after we had started and kept possession so well.

45 games to go, but we should come away with something against teams like Hull.

Edited July 30, 2022 by Gert Mare

[joe jordans teeth]

First game of the season,did we deserve to lose then of course not but the second half was awful,we will not get relegated for sure 

[GrahamC]

Just now, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

Yes he did.

Bet that poster is gutted.

Saw someone on Twitter ask if he gave the penalty away, absolutely desperate to scapegoat him.

[Super]

4 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said:

First game of the season,did we deserve to lose then of course not but the second half was awful,we will not get relegated for sure 

That penalty decision is covering over the fact we were poor second half. First half was good.

Edited July 30, 2022 by Super

[Northern Red]

I do find it amazing how people who evidently haven't seen the game have the confidence to lecture people who did see it.

[ProfitInMyPocket]

Sykes and Naismith brought something different to our team. Enjoyed their performances. 

Less said about the ref the better, it is what it is. 

The Iranian player for them might have caused a couple injuries, hope Atkinson and Sykes recover fine.

Nice to see us play out a bit higher up the pitch with Naismith, only found us a bit toothless when the first attempt doesn't work out to get through and we won the ball again it didn't look like we were going to be dangerous on the second ball in. 

Felt we played alright overall, just gave Seri a bit too much space to link things together.

Unlucky City, on to next week. COYR.

[Banjo Red]

Pearson's head will explode he is going to be pissed.

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

3 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Somebody at the game just said their goal came from a set piece they earned on the break after we had pressed them back following a period when THEY were wasting time. Are they wrong? Which one was it, excessive defending or caught on the break? If they are right you can't have it all your own way. A poor header is a poor header particularly from a player with so much experience and know how.

It was a Hull break.  A Hull player took out Atkinson just outside their penalty area and then rolled around for four minutes, presumably to avoid a card.  The ref of course bought it.

[chinapig]

Just now, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

I didn’t see us sit back on a 1-0 lead.  Yes, we had to defend at times, but we showed attacking intent throughout, and especially once Conway was on.  ‘Mental weakness’?  What’s that all about?  We lost to a penalty which shouldn’t have been given and a deflection to a shot that was going nowhere.  You do realise that there are two teams in a football match and the away team often has to defend for long periods?  Also we were having to deal with criminally bad refereeing and appalling behaviour from the Turkish players.  And you put it down to our ‘mental weakness’???

I wouldn't say mental weakness but yet another injury time goal conceded thanks to a failure to close down is a continuation of last season's pattern.

Let's hope that is the last one but when it happens repeatedly it seems less and less like chance. God knows how you put a stop to it though.

[littlerobin]

Anyone got a stream clip of the Atkinson penalty shout?

Stream went down at 1-0.. maybe for the best!

[cidercity1987]

At what point do we start walking off the pitch at these ridiculous decisions?

Il tell you one thing, no other club would stand for it to go so long without a pen whilst having so many corrupt decisions against us 

Edited July 30, 2022 by cidercity1987

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

1 minute ago, Super said:

That penalty decision is coveting over the fact we were poor second half. First half was good.

We were certainly better in the first half (and Hull were worse) but the second half was always going to be a different kettle of worms (or can of fish) and I thought we were decent.

[2015]

Wow that penalty decision, one of the worst i've seen

[Super]

Just now, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

We were certainly better in the first half (and Hull were worse) but the second half was always going to be a different kettle of worms (or can of fish) and I thought we were decent.

All about opinions. I agree we were good first half though passed the ball really well.

[IAmNick]

2 minutes ago, littlerobin said:

Anyone got a stream clip of the Atkinson penalty shout?

Stream went down at 1-0.. maybe for the best!

Here you go: https://streamja.com/roLJV

[Red Exile]

1 minute ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

We were certainly better in the first half (and Hull were worse) but the second half was always going to be a different kettle of worms (or can of fish) and I thought we were decent.

...me too. Lots of good signs.

They are a bit of a bogey side for us - which is a pity as my in-laws support them! 

[Super]

2 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

At what point do we start walking off the pitch at these ridiculous decisions?

Il tell you one thing, no other club would stand for it to go so long without a pen whilst having so many corrupt decisions against us 

This is a joke right?

[robin_unreliant]

5 minutes ago, chinapig said:

I wouldn't say mental weakness but yet another injury time goal conceded thanks to a failure to close down is a continuation of last season's pattern.

Let's hope that is the last one but when it happens repeatedly it seems less and less like chance. God knows how you put a stop to it though.

Exactly. Constantly conceding late goals - surely must be down to mental attitude. 

Edited July 30, 2022 by robin_unreliant

[cidercity1987]

1 minute ago, Super said:

This is a joke right?

No , it's been going on for more than a year now 

We are way too soft and accepting 

Edited July 30, 2022 by cidercity1987

[Northern Red]

1 minute ago, IAmNick said:

Here you go: https://streamja.com/roLJV

He's looking straight at it FFS!

[stephenkibby.]

5 minutes ago, Banjo Red said:

Pearson's head will explode he is going to be pissed.

So will i after another late loss.

[Midred]

2 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

Here you go: https://streamja.com/roLJV

Wow, perhaps the ref was confused because the defender was actually pulling him over?

[Rebounder]

2 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

Here you go: https://streamja.com/roLJV

That is something else. 

[Mihai]

Guys, let's forget about this game. It made me feel empty also... The team was looking decent, we can get through this season. We missed a few key players also. Let's be positive !

[Super]

Just now, cidercity1987 said:

No , it's been going on for more than a year now 

You think we should walk off the pitch? And do what exactly?

[Red Exile]

1 minute ago, robin_unreliant said:

Exactly. Constantly conceding late goals is surely down to mental attitude. 

Have you seen the goal? What is anyone supposed to do about that? I've been critical in the past but we looked fine today. Extremely unlucky. There'll be days when we get the luck.

[The Swan and Cemetery]

Overall a decent performance. We still have a habit of getting in each other’s way which slows the ball down when we’ve got it and sometimes looked a bit heavy legged (not as bad as Hull and their competition to outdo each other with worst cramping theatrics). Ability to use width was promising and most played pretty well. Hull were dreadful/dirty and the ref was farcical at times, penalty had a strong whiff of thinking he got the first half one wrong, so needed to correct himself. No blame on Klose for the winner in my view, he got decent distance, but both Andi and Jay stood still, then some bad luck. Poor result, good performance. 

[Banjo Red]

2 minutes ago, IAmNick said:

Here you go: https://streamja.com/roLJV

The refs in this league are awful.

[Numero Uno]

Just now, robin_unreliant said:

Exactly. Constantly conceding late goals is surely down to mental attitude. 

Today it was down to an individual error by a very experienced Centre Half rather than a team thing. Teams get crosses and long throws in late in games, that's football, but that should have been headed away better given it was a completely free header. Lazily terming it "mental attitude" puts a slant on it that simply wasn't there.

[littlerobin]

Just now, IAmNick said:

Here you go: https://streamja.com/roLJV

Thanks for that!

That's a tough one to take. Think we should get that given the previous decision.

My issue with their penalty is more the fact that he took steps on both feet before rolling over. If he goes down straight away you could argue it but he has clearly gone down after the fact when there's no chance for him to score. 

Nevermind, next week we play Sunderland and if I remember correctly we put 3 past them with no reply last time we played them...

 

 

 

[Mr Popodopolous]

I'm not so convinced it was a penalty for Atkinson- however it certainly wasn't one for them!

[Super]

Just now, Mr Popodopolous said:

I'm not so convinced it was a penalty for Atkinson- however it certainly wasn't one for them!

I'm not so sure either. Certainly not as blatant as people are making out.

[AppyDAZE]

Can someone post their pen again. I still havent seen it

 

[WECANDO]

22 minutes ago, eardun said:

First time I’ve seen Weimann lack energy. He looked too knackered to close down. The guy had too much time on the edge of the box. 

The problem is we didn't mark their player just outside the box. The same happened a few times in the first half. These are strong professionals and can belt a ball in the back of the net from there. Had he been marked the shot and deflection wouldn't have happened.

[Rudolf Hucker]

Not at all displeased with City’s performance. Very displeased with the referee. 

First half we were by far the better team and deserved more than a one goal lead. As they did throughout the match, Hull frequently left something on our players in challenges yet the ref unbelievably kept his cards in his pocket. 
 

Second half we were more under the cosh but defended well. The award of their penalty was a joke after which Hull seemed content to waste time, happy with a point. The deflected goal in the 93rd minute was predictable, disappointing and undeserved. 
 

Concerned to see Vyner in the starting lineup but he played well. Only Dasilva seemed somewhat under par. Naismith was my motm - looks a class above our other defenders. 
 

Imo Hull will struggle this season. If we play as we did today and can avoid that ref, we certainly won’t. 

[Redtucks]

4 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

Have you seen the goal? What is anyone supposed to do about that? I've been critical in the past but we looked fine today. Extremely unlucky. There'll be days when we get the luck.

Really!!!

When???

We said that all of last season.

 

[robin_unreliant]

1 minute ago, Red Exile said:

Have you seen the goal? What is anyone supposed to do about that? I've been critical in the past but we looked fine today. Extremely unlucky. There'll be days when we get the luck.

I appreciate it was a fluke. We found all sorts of ways to concede injury time goals last season. I hope it has changed and this was purely bad luck. 

[East Londoner]

2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

I'm not so convinced it was a penalty for Atkinson- however it certainly wasn't one for them!

Looked like a foul that’s given anywhere on the pitch except the penalty area 

[Red Exile]

1 minute ago, Redtucks said:

Really!!!

When???

We said that all of last season.

 

I live in hope!

[Mr Popodopolous]

9 minutes ago, East Londoner said:

Looked like a foul that’s given anywhere on the pitch except the penalty area 

I've looked a few times and I'm not so sure it's a pen. That said if theirs was given ours should have been if that is the threshold.

Well maybe having looked again- but it's not exactly a stonewall or blatant one is it.

Edited July 30, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous