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1 minute ago, East Londoner said:

What did he do?

Gave them a penalty for a dive, denied us a clear penalty for pulling in the box, allowed all their time wasting, protected their number 9 despite 4 bad tackles, need more?

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4 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

Gave them a penalty for a dive, denied us a clear penalty for pulling in the box, allowed all their time wasting, protected their number 9 despite 4 bad tackles, need more?

I think you might have had a bit of a mare here...! 

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15 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

Gave them a penalty for a dive, denied us a clear penalty for pulling in the box, allowed all their time wasting, protected their number 9 despite 4 bad tackles, need more?

Very biased towards Hull.  They got away with not getting several yellows.  Sayyadmanesh could’ve easily been booked three times.

Frustrating.

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3 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said:

Well  the opening post proves one thing

Posters on here, like refs are just human and make mistakes

Can all the mistakes really be the same way though?

If you both have the fewest penalties awarded & most conceded that seems odd?

Also I detailed 6 last season we could have had & none of them were given.

9 conceded, 1 awarded, hmmm.

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24 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

 

Ah balls. Never post in anger. Sorry James.

Dean - YOU’RE a disgrace. 

You cant see well with that hearing aid!

Aliyaah should have been booked in the first half for a foul on Sykes. Then he bodychecked him out of the game in the second half. Ref. Was. A. Disgrace.

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Just as a matter of interest, did Nigel think that today's ref was Kevin Friend?

In his post match, Nige said I spoke to Kevin Friend before the game

uh?

Kev Friend is one of our own in any case, Nige!

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1 minute ago, AppyDAZE said:

Just as a matter of interest, did Nigel think that today's ref was Kevin Friend?

In his post match, Nige said I spoke to Kevin Friend before the game

uh?

Kev Friend is one of our own in any case, Nige!

Friend was at the game

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43 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:
31 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said:

Is that worded right? You can't get booked three times.

You can’t GET booked three times, but you CAN be “should’ve been booked” three time  wasn’t there a thing at a World Cup or Euros recently where an English ref DID yellow someone three times because he thought the second yellow was the first and so didn’t show red.  Did I dream that?

 

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12 minutes ago, chinapig said:

No it's just incompetence. The standard of officiating in the EFL is the worst I have ever seen.

The saying ‘never mistake for malice that which can be explained via incompetence’ applies here, I think.

Doubt this ref has an agenda against us, but I’ve zero doubt believing he’s absolutely shit at his job.

Officiating has felt awful the last few years in the Championship. 

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40 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Can all the mistakes really be the same way though?

If you both have the fewest penalties awarded & most conceded that seems odd?

Also I detailed 6 last season we could have had & none of them were given.

9 conceded, 1 awarded, hmmm.

The juxtaposition of shots of the Hull owner and his entourage rejoicing and the decisions favouring his side were very uncomfortable!

I’m not the greatest fan of the Lansdowns but  as a fan base we have retained our dignity when it comes to ownership. 

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2 minutes ago, Red Exile said:

The juxtaposition of shots of the Hull owner and his entourage rejoicing and the decisions favouring his side were very uncomfortable!

They all looked so bored for the whole game until Hull scored. It was quite ridiculous how often the camera cut to them.

You only sing when you're winning.

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Just now, ExiledAjax said:

They all looked so bored for the whole game until Hull scored. It was quite ridiculous how often the camera cut to them.

You only sing when you're winning.

Yep. Sadly for me they are my in-laws’ team. Which is challenging! Hull’s embrace of anyone promising the Earth speaks volumes for the lack of confidence of the place - it’s been through hard times - unlike Bristol. They grasp at straws. But it is irritating that they have such a hex over us!

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1 hour ago, Homer Simpson said:

I have never been more convinced that corruption is still a thing in the EFL.

It's inevitable. 

Look at this country's leadership,  at the ownership of clubs and the people in leading positions of governance.

 

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 Let's not go down the road of saying the EFL have it in for us, or there is a conspiracy against us- I doubt it...are we noteworthy enough for one.

Okay bit flippant there and tbh it's only a handful but no there is no particular reason rationality wise for the EFL or refs verbatim  to have it in for us.

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2 hours ago, Mayes86 said:

They need to make refs come out an explain their big decisions after games. If seen some shockers over the years but that “penalty” is right up there with the worst of the worst. 

I've been saying this for years.

Managers and players are questioned about their actions but refs are allowed to hide behind their incompetence.

 

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Someone please correct me on the stats but of ~620 teams surveyed, we received the fewest penalties over the last 2 or 3 seasons. When you’re bottom of a list of north of 600 teams, and you spent a big wedge of that time as an attacking side who spent a good amount of time in opposition penalty areas, do you not have to at least ask the EFL, what gives?

Spending 3 months counting down the days for the new season just to be shafted by a referee again… I desperately hope we’re presenting this data to the EFL.

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41 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

 Let's not go down the road of saying the EFL have it in for us, or there is a conspiracy against us- I doubt it...are we noteworthy enough for one.

Okay bit flippant there and tbh it's only a handful but no there is no particular reason rationality wise for the EFL or refs verbatim  to have it in for us.

You’re right.

However I’m really struggling here with any rational explanation, last season (alongside Birmingham) we conceded the most penalties (9), several of which (a blatant dive by the Huddersfield player, for one) were absolutely shocking decisions.

Alongside our Welsh friends, Cardiff & Swansea, we were awarded the fewest penalties (1), I detailed 6 that were nailed on that we didn’t get, such as Dasilva at Fulham, Scott v QPR & Forest, first minute Coventry away,  etc, etc.

I don’t buy that refs have it in for us, but we are consistently being poorly served here.

If we were say, awarded 5 & conceded 7, it is sort of evening itself out, but as today has shown, it is nowhere near.

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45 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Let's not go down the road of saying the EFL have it in for us, or there is a conspiracy against us- I doubt it...are we noteworthy enough for one.

You know as well as the I that the EFL have a grim and determined vendetta against The Derby County Football Club Ltd. 

We also know that they are nowhere near competent enough to run and maintain two grudge campaigns against two middling EFL clubs.

So they cannot possibly have a conspiracy against us because they're too busy running their conspiracy against Derby.

Steve Gibson though...he'd have the time...maybe he's the unseen hand behind all of our really quite minor misfortune.

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56 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said:

@steviestevienevillethis is right up your street,otib is not content with slagging players off who were not playing but we are slagging refs off who were not reffing 

Nah, I'm sure it was just a preemptive strike before he has an undoubtedly poor performance whenever he is next appointed to officiate one of our matches....as they all seem to.  

The penalty awarded was nothing short of farcical and looked worse with every replay. 

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35 minutes ago, City1984 said:

No you dream it, I remember this within last few years although only details I can recall was that it happened at a major tournament and by an English ref 

Graham Poll gave three yellows to a Croatian player at 2006 WC

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Absolutely shocking decision for the pen. The delay by the player to go down is up there with some of the worst imo, looked Neymar-esque! The only thing he has in common with Neymar.

But the standard of officiating today was utter shite. Genuinely don't know how it's so bad, when it's meant tk be one of the best and most competitive leagues in the world. Ref's are well below the standard needed. 

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I was worried the referee was going to cost us from quite early on. The first challenge on Sykes was a shocker, deliberately late, studs up and high. You could easily make a case for a red, but the guy wasn't even booked. Sykes continued to get kicked around, until he finally came off. 

My stream was playing up around the point of the penalty, but from what I have seen, it was like a slow motion version of what Tomlin did in his incident yesterday, laughable.

800+ fans spending good money to travel, players working their socks off to prepare and then produce in the game, all wasted by sheer incompetence.

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8 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

I was worried the referee was going to cost us from quite early on. The first challenge on Sykes was a shocker, deliberately late, studs up and high. You could easily make a case for a red, but the guy wasn't even booked. Sykes continued to get kicked around, until he finally came off. 

My stream was playing up around the point of the penalty, but from what I have seen, it was like a slow motion version of what Tomlin did in his incident yesterday, laughable.

800+ fans spending good money to travel, players working their socks off to prepare and then produce in the game, all wasted by sheer incompetence.

At what point are the officials going to start being made accountable for not performing to an acceptable standard?

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2 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said:

At what point are the officials going to start being made accountable for not performing to an acceptable standard?

I guess part of the problem is that there aren't enough referees around for the incompetent ones to be demoted for poor performance. We seem to be left with anyone who fancied a day out on a Saturday afternoon at the moment.

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At the end of the day the standards of refereeing are unacceptable.  They are professional and yet their decision making has worsened.

The penalty was (imho) a direct consequence of not giving the two incredibly tame appeals they had first half. I’ve just watched back the Vyner incident.  If you watch it carefully Estupinan angles his runs onto his (Vyner’s) line when it becomes clear the cross is gonna be slightly too high for him. Vyner needn’t put his hands on his back, but it’s not a push. Ref gets that right, but it seems a ref cannot turn down three appeals for a home side without giving a penalty.  I felt very much like the Preston (a) under Andy Davies, when you just could feel it was building up to giving them a decision.

That should never be the case. Each decision should be made on its merits.  That’s where many of todays referees get swayed, and make bad decisions.  They referee on a totting up basis.

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3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

Why didn’t he give them a penalty first half? Another bad decision 

Did you think Vyner’s was a penalty.  I didn’t. Contact is allowed, he’s partly running into Vyner’s line.  Vyner shouldn’t put his hands up, but it’s not a foul imho.

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52 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

At the end of the day the standards of refereeing are unacceptable.  They are professional and yet their decision making has worsened.

The penalty was (imho) a direct consequence of not giving the two incredibly tame appeals they had first half. I’ve just watched back the Vyner incident.  If you watch it carefully Estupinan angles his runs onto his (Vyner’s) line when it becomes clear the cross is gonna be slightly too high for him. Vyner needn’t put his hands on his back, but it’s not a push. Ref gets that right, but it seems a ref cannot turn down three appeals for a home side without giving a penalty.  I felt very much like the Preston (a) under Andy Davies, when you just could feel it was building up to giving them a decision.

That should never be the case. Each decision should be made on its merits.  That’s where many of todays referees get swayed, and make bad decisions.  They referee on a totting up basis.

Just seen James@jbcfc__ video on Twitter.  He can see much of what's going on, which makes him incompetent . The lack of bookings, the soft Pen given and the ones ignored? He shouldn't get a game for some time. But we all know he will.

 

 

 

 

 

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16 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said:

@steviestevienevillethis is right up your street,otib is not content with slagging players off who were not playing but we are slagging refs off who were not reffing 

 

I tell you what: why wasn't Bob Houghton's half-time talk more inspiring, so the lads were able to keep up the pressure for the last 45 minutes, and isn't it about time Les Bardsley gave us a definitive date for the return of Semenyo and Kalas. 

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47 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Did you think Vyner’s was a penalty.  I didn’t. Contact is allowed, he’s partly running into Vyner’s line.  Vyner shouldn’t put his hands up, but it’s not a foul imho.

I’m probably 60/40 penalty if truth be told but I think VAR gives it. I’ve seen a lot of city fans who think we got away with that one conveniently forget it when talking about how unlucky we were.  

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10 minutes ago, And Its Smith said:

I’m probably 60/40 penalty if truth be told but I think VAR gives it. I’ve seen a lot of city fans who think we got away with that one conveniently forget it when talking about how unlucky we were.  

If you look at Mitrovic’s headers last season, every one he pushes his marker with much more force than Vyner’s hands being placed (not pushed imho) on Estupinan’s back.

Dont get me wrong I’ve seen them given.

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1 hour ago, 1960maaan said:

Just seen James@jbcfc__ video on Twitter.  He can see much of what's going on, which makes him incompetent . The lack of bookings, the soft Pen given and the ones ignored? He shouldn't get a game for some time. But we all know he will.

 

 

 

 

 

Absolutely shocking.

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