BCFCGav Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 You’re a disgrace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 What did he do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Oh it was Linnington who was the Ref, why am I not surprised. Been dreadful for years, about time he retired 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 minute ago, East Londoner said: What did he do? Gave them a penalty for a dive, denied us a clear penalty for pulling in the box, allowed all their time wasting, protected their number 9 despite 4 bad tackles, need more? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Thought it was Dean Whitestone 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Don't worry we'll get a letter of apology that will make everything all right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Oh yeah Linnington is definitely a disgrace but today's Tuesday was Whitestone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Gave them a penalty for a dive, denied us a clear penalty for pulling in the box, allowed all their time wasting, protected their number 9 despite 4 bad tackles, need more? I think you might have had a bit of a mare here...! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, East Londoner said: Thought it was Dean Whitestone It was. Linington refereed the Huddersfield Burnley match last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BCFCGav Posted July 30, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, East Londoner said: Thought it was Dean Whitestone 2 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Oh yeah Linnington is definitely a disgrace but today's Tuesday was Whitestone Ah balls. Never post in anger. Sorry James. Dean - YOU’RE a disgrace. 3 1 14 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayes86 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 They need to make refs come out an explain their big decisions after games. If seen some shockers over the years but that “penalty” is right up there with the worst of the worst. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarksRobin Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Peak OTIB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Simpson Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 I have never been more convinced that corruption is still a thing in the EFL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Dean Shitestone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, East Londoner said: What did he do? Realised my error, apologies EL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Well the opening post proves one thing Posters on here, like refs are just human and make mistakes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickolas Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Whitestone. A fine addition to the awful list of Davies. Linington. Eltringham. Stroud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Gave them a penalty for a dive, denied us a clear penalty for pulling in the box, allowed all their time wasting, protected their number 9 despite 4 bad tackles, need more? Very biased towards Hull. They got away with not getting several yellows. Sayyadmanesh could’ve easily been booked three times. Frustrating. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: You’re a disgrace This is a new classic in the brewing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said: Well the opening post proves one thing Posters on here, like refs are just human and make mistakes Can all the mistakes really be the same way though? If you both have the fewest penalties awarded & most conceded that seems odd? Also I detailed 6 last season we could have had & none of them were given. 9 conceded, 1 awarded, hmmm. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Aww poor old James, it's his fault even when it isn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Very biased towards Hull. They got away with not getting several yellows. Sayyadmanesh could’ve easily been booked three times. Frustrating. Is that worded right? You can't get booked three times. Edited July 30, 2022 by The Horse With No Name 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: Is that worded right? You can't get booked three times. Of course you can, two yellows and a red. That is three. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 24 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Ah balls. Never post in anger. Sorry James. Dean - YOU’RE a disgrace. You cant see well with that hearing aid! Aliyaah should have been booked in the first half for a foul on Sykes. Then he bodychecked him out of the game in the second half. Ref. Was. A. Disgrace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 32 minutes ago, Homer Simpson said: I have never been more convinced that corruption is still a thing in the EFL. No it's just incompetence. The standard of officiating in the EFL is the worst I have ever seen. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) Just as a matter of interest, did Nigel think that today's ref was Kevin Friend? In his post match, Nige said I spoke to Kevin Friend before the game uh? Kev Friend is one of our own in any case, Nige! Edited July 30, 2022 by AppyDAZE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 minute ago, AppyDAZE said: Just as a matter of interest, did Nigel think that today's ref was Kevin Friend? In his post match, Nige said I spoke to Kevin Friend before the game uh? Kev Friend is one of our own in any case, Nige! Friend was at the game 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, glynriley said: Friend was at the game Perhaps he could act as a consultant? He might be able to advise what we have to do to get a penalty from his mates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 59 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: You’re a disgrace I have studied your post from various angles and also used slow motion glasses to read it.I recommend your future posts be subject to VAR! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 43 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: 31 minutes ago, The Horse With No Name said: Is that worded right? You can't get booked three times. You can’t GET booked three times, but you CAN be “should’ve been booked” three time wasn’t there a thing at a World Cup or Euros recently where an English ref DID yellow someone three times because he thought the second yellow was the first and so didn’t show red. Did I dream that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, chinapig said: No it's just incompetence. The standard of officiating in the EFL is the worst I have ever seen. The saying ‘never mistake for malice that which can be explained via incompetence’ applies here, I think. Doubt this ref has an agenda against us, but I’ve zero doubt believing he’s absolutely shit at his job. Officiating has felt awful the last few years in the Championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, chinapig said: Perhaps he could act as a consultant? He might be able to advise what we have to do to get a penalty from his mates. Isn’t he now the coach for championship referees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 40 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Can all the mistakes really be the same way though? If you both have the fewest penalties awarded & most conceded that seems odd? Also I detailed 6 last season we could have had & none of them were given. 9 conceded, 1 awarded, hmmm. The juxtaposition of shots of the Hull owner and his entourage rejoicing and the decisions favouring his side were very uncomfortable! I’m not the greatest fan of the Lansdowns but as a fan base we have retained our dignity when it comes to ownership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippin cider Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Was anyone expecting anything else from this bellend?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Red Exile said: The juxtaposition of shots of the Hull owner and his entourage rejoicing and the decisions favouring his side were very uncomfortable! They all looked so bored for the whole game until Hull scored. It was quite ridiculous how often the camera cut to them. You only sing when you're winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZumerZetSmithy Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 I forgot to take my glasses to watch today . But it still look like a bribed ref today. Pearson will get another fine for telling the truth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 There was a player booked three times in the world cup? It was on the third booking that the ref decided the player had to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.G.Red Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, glynriley said: Friend was at the game Nigel spoke to him before the game, I wonder if they spoke after the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse With No Name Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, Southport Red said: Yes Graham Poll, our top ref at the time. Its like when a player misses three chances and someone says he should have had a hat trick. No. If he had scored the first, the other two wouldn't have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Just now, ExiledAjax said: They all looked so bored for the whole game until Hull scored. It was quite ridiculous how often the camera cut to them. You only sing when you're winning. Yep. Sadly for me they are my in-laws’ team. Which is challenging! Hull’s embrace of anyone promising the Earth speaks volumes for the lack of confidence of the place - it’s been through hard times - unlike Bristol. They grasp at straws. But it is irritating that they have such a hex over us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Homer Simpson said: I have never been more convinced that corruption is still a thing in the EFL. It's inevitable. Look at this country's leadership, at the ownership of clubs and the people in leading positions of governance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 I wonder how Hull will get on playing against some of the "bigger, more entitled" teams? Perhaps the refs incompetence will work against them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 26 minutes ago, East Londoner said: Isn’t he now the coach for championship referees He's got a hell of a job on his hands then! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderingred Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) Edit: never mind Edited July 30, 2022 by Wanderingred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Let's not go down the road of saying the EFL have it in for us, or there is a conspiracy against us- I doubt it...are we noteworthy enough for one. Okay bit flippant there and tbh it's only a handful but no there is no particular reason rationality wise for the EFL or refs verbatim to have it in for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, The Horse With No Name said: Is that worded right? You can't get booked three times. Yes, it means he could’ve picked up a yellow card on three occasions easily…the fact he didn’t is scandalous. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 @steviestevienevillethis is right up your street,otib is not content with slagging players off who were not playing but we are slagging refs off who were not reffing 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Mayes86 said: They need to make refs come out an explain their big decisions after games. If seen some shockers over the years but that “penalty” is right up there with the worst of the worst. I've been saying this for years. Managers and players are questioned about their actions but refs are allowed to hide behind their incompetence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted July 30, 2022 Author Share Posted July 30, 2022 Someone please correct me on the stats but of ~620 teams surveyed, we received the fewest penalties over the last 2 or 3 seasons. When you’re bottom of a list of north of 600 teams, and you spent a big wedge of that time as an attacking side who spent a good amount of time in opposition penalty areas, do you not have to at least ask the EFL, what gives? Spending 3 months counting down the days for the new season just to be shafted by a referee again… I desperately hope we’re presenting this data to the EFL. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 41 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Let's not go down the road of saying the EFL have it in for us, or there is a conspiracy against us- I doubt it...are we noteworthy enough for one. Okay bit flippant there and tbh it's only a handful but no there is no particular reason rationality wise for the EFL or refs verbatim to have it in for us. You’re right. However I’m really struggling here with any rational explanation, last season (alongside Birmingham) we conceded the most penalties (9), several of which (a blatant dive by the Huddersfield player, for one) were absolutely shocking decisions. Alongside our Welsh friends, Cardiff & Swansea, we were awarded the fewest penalties (1), I detailed 6 that were nailed on that we didn’t get, such as Dasilva at Fulham, Scott v QPR & Forest, first minute Coventry away, etc, etc. I don’t buy that refs have it in for us, but we are consistently being poorly served here. If we were say, awarded 5 & conceded 7, it is sort of evening itself out, but as today has shown, it is nowhere near. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl&Toby Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Who’s in the middle for Sunderland? Anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Get over it kids. Upwards and onwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 45 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Let's not go down the road of saying the EFL have it in for us, or there is a conspiracy against us- I doubt it...are we noteworthy enough for one. You know as well as the I that the EFL have a grim and determined vendetta against The Derby County Football Club Ltd. We also know that they are nowhere near competent enough to run and maintain two grudge campaigns against two middling EFL clubs. So they cannot possibly have a conspiracy against us because they're too busy running their conspiracy against Derby. Steve Gibson though...he'd have the time...maybe he's the unseen hand behind all of our really quite minor misfortune. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizys Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 56 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: @steviestevienevillethis is right up your street,otib is not content with slagging players off who were not playing but we are slagging refs off who were not reffing Nah, I'm sure it was just a preemptive strike before he has an undoubtedly poor performance whenever he is next appointed to officiate one of our matches....as they all seem to. The penalty awarded was nothing short of farcical and looked worse with every replay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
City1984 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Southport Red said: No you dream it, I remember this within last few years although only details I can recall was that it happened at a major tournament and by an English ref Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, City1984 said: No you dream it, I remember this within last few years although only details I can recall was that it happened at a major tournament and by an English ref Graham Poll gave three yellows to a Croatian player at 2006 WC Edited July 30, 2022 by Sheltons Army 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Absolutely shocking decision for the pen. The delay by the player to go down is up there with some of the worst imo, looked Neymar-esque! The only thing he has in common with Neymar. But the standard of officiating today was utter shite. Genuinely don't know how it's so bad, when it's meant tk be one of the best and most competitive leagues in the world. Ref's are well below the standard needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 I was worried the referee was going to cost us from quite early on. The first challenge on Sykes was a shocker, deliberately late, studs up and high. You could easily make a case for a red, but the guy wasn't even booked. Sykes continued to get kicked around, until he finally came off. My stream was playing up around the point of the penalty, but from what I have seen, it was like a slow motion version of what Tomlin did in his incident yesterday, laughable. 800+ fans spending good money to travel, players working their socks off to prepare and then produce in the game, all wasted by sheer incompetence. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I was worried the referee was going to cost us from quite early on. The first challenge on Sykes was a shocker, deliberately late, studs up and high. You could easily make a case for a red, but the guy wasn't even booked. Sykes continued to get kicked around, until he finally came off. My stream was playing up around the point of the penalty, but from what I have seen, it was like a slow motion version of what Tomlin did in his incident yesterday, laughable. 800+ fans spending good money to travel, players working their socks off to prepare and then produce in the game, all wasted by sheer incompetence. At what point are the officials going to start being made accountable for not performing to an acceptable standard? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said: At what point are the officials going to start being made accountable for not performing to an acceptable standard? I guess part of the problem is that there aren't enough referees around for the incompetent ones to be demoted for poor performance. We seem to be left with anyone who fancied a day out on a Saturday afternoon at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 At the end of the day the standards of refereeing are unacceptable. They are professional and yet their decision making has worsened. The penalty was (imho) a direct consequence of not giving the two incredibly tame appeals they had first half. I’ve just watched back the Vyner incident. If you watch it carefully Estupinan angles his runs onto his (Vyner’s) line when it becomes clear the cross is gonna be slightly too high for him. Vyner needn’t put his hands on his back, but it’s not a push. Ref gets that right, but it seems a ref cannot turn down three appeals for a home side without giving a penalty. I felt very much like the Preston (a) under Andy Davies, when you just could feel it was building up to giving them a decision. That should never be the case. Each decision should be made on its merits. That’s where many of todays referees get swayed, and make bad decisions. They referee on a totting up basis. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 17 hours ago, Davefevs said: Very biased towards Hull. They got away with not getting several yellows. Sayyadmanesh could’ve easily been booked three times. Frustrating. He's moving house next week, big payment from an anonymous Asian benefactor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Why didn’t he give them a penalty first half? Another bad decision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Why didn’t he give them a penalty first half? Another bad decision Did you think Vyner’s was a penalty. I didn’t. Contact is allowed, he’s partly running into Vyner’s line. Vyner shouldn’t put his hands up, but it’s not a foul imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 52 minutes ago, Davefevs said: At the end of the day the standards of refereeing are unacceptable. They are professional and yet their decision making has worsened. The penalty was (imho) a direct consequence of not giving the two incredibly tame appeals they had first half. I’ve just watched back the Vyner incident. If you watch it carefully Estupinan angles his runs onto his (Vyner’s) line when it becomes clear the cross is gonna be slightly too high for him. Vyner needn’t put his hands on his back, but it’s not a push. Ref gets that right, but it seems a ref cannot turn down three appeals for a home side without giving a penalty. I felt very much like the Preston (a) under Andy Davies, when you just could feel it was building up to giving them a decision. That should never be the case. Each decision should be made on its merits. That’s where many of todays referees get swayed, and make bad decisions. They referee on a totting up basis. Just seen James@jbcfc__ video on Twitter. He can see much of what's going on, which makes him incompetent . The lack of bookings, the soft Pen given and the ones ignored? He shouldn't get a game for some time. But we all know he will. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 16 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: @steviestevienevillethis is right up your street,otib is not content with slagging players off who were not playing but we are slagging refs off who were not reffing I tell you what: why wasn't Bob Houghton's half-time talk more inspiring, so the lads were able to keep up the pressure for the last 45 minutes, and isn't it about time Les Bardsley gave us a definitive date for the return of Semenyo and Kalas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 47 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Did you think Vyner’s was a penalty. I didn’t. Contact is allowed, he’s partly running into Vyner’s line. Vyner shouldn’t put his hands up, but it’s not a foul imho. I’m probably 60/40 penalty if truth be told but I think VAR gives it. I’ve seen a lot of city fans who think we got away with that one conveniently forget it when talking about how unlucky we were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: I’m probably 60/40 penalty if truth be told but I think VAR gives it. I’ve seen a lot of city fans who think we got away with that one conveniently forget it when talking about how unlucky we were. If you look at Mitrovic’s headers last season, every one he pushes his marker with much more force than Vyner’s hands being placed (not pushed imho) on Estupinan’s back. Dont get me wrong I’ve seen them given. Edited July 31, 2022 by Davefevs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjo Red Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 Problem is you complain to the fa and they do f all about it. Standards are slipping and with so much money to be gained going to the prem surely var has to be introduced soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 1 hour ago, 1960maaan said: Just seen James@jbcfc__ video on Twitter. He can see much of what's going on, which makes him incompetent . The lack of bookings, the soft Pen given and the ones ignored? He shouldn't get a game for some time. But we all know he will. Absolutely shocking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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