Massengo

[Davefevs]

Lets wait for Nige's pre-match talk with club or BBCRB....could be a knock (update: tonsillitis), could be the consistency from Nige that he will use him when he needs him as he hasn't signed contract.  I'm fine with that.  Might be a wake up for Han if he is fit.  Maybe could come to a head?

Edited August 13, 2022 by Davefevs

[Loosey Boy]

32 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Lets wait for Nige's pre-match talk with club or BBCRB....could be a knock (update: tonsillitis), could be the consistency from Nige that he will use him when he needs him as he hasn't signed contract.  I'm fine with that.  Might be a wake up for Han if he is fit.  Maybe could come to a head?

Nige’s interview suggests that it just wasn’t worth risking him today as he will be needed on Tuesday 

[Norn Iron]

Just now, Loosey Boy said:

Nige’s interview suggests that it just wasn’t worth risking him today as he will be needed on Tuesday 

Yep. Radio Briz confirms he has tonsillitis.

[Silvio Dante]

Bump. 

As the person who started this thread, everything Han did badly against Sunderland he did well today. Positionally very good, biting in tackle, used ball well. Excellent.

[TRL]

2 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Bump. 

As the person who started this thread, everything Han did badly against Sunderland he did well today. Positionally very good, biting in tackle, used ball well. Excellent.

I think with Massengo that is what you get, 100% biting player with skill, it either comes off or doesn't, hence brilliant or below par, you never seem to get anything else.  Personally I like him, Even when stuff is not coming off you can never question the effort.

[cityexile]

6 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

Bump. 

As the person who started this thread, everything Han did badly against Sunderland he did well today. Positionally very good, biting in tackle, used ball well. Excellent.

Thought he grew in to the game and was very good second half.

[KegCity]

We play much better football with Scott and Massengo in the middle instead of Williams and James.

[Gazred]

Classic HNM tonight. Must be a pain in the arse to play against. He's constantly pressing and getting stuck in.

A fine pass to help setup the goal as well.

[FNQ]

I thought that how he battled and won the ball that sent Andi on his way to cross for Tommy’s goal epitomised his and the team’s performance tonight.. hope he signs that bloody contract.

[bexhill reds]

1 minute ago, cityexile said:

Thought he grew in to the game and was very good second half.

I noticed during one break in play he came to the touch line and spoke to Pearson, a smile on both their faces, maybe he might see the light and realise that another couple of seasons at this level and with this coaching team will serve his football education well.

[TRL]

1 minute ago, bexhill reds said:

I noticed during one break in play he came to the touch line and spoke to Pearson, a smile on both their faces, maybe he might see the light and realise that another couple of seasons at this level and with this coaching team will serve his football education well.

I think he is gone, Pearson clearly likes him as a player or he would not be near the first team, and I think running down his contract rlis what is frustrating to Pearson, Massengo will always give 100% and his attitude is first rate, but the run down of his contract can sit easy with Pearson or those upstairs. Thankfully Pearson isn't being too belligerent and knows he can use the talent while he is still here.

 

Personally I hope he stays, but I think he has proven enough (other than goalscoring) to earn himself something lucrative elsewhere and probably at a higher level.

[CiderHeadDan]

Like my post in the match thread, thought he was as close to a 10/10 at this level as you can get.

Loved him giving Scott a good taking too first half - what a leader.

think he will be the best bit of business we have done in a long time and can see him being our captain if Bentley leaves. 

(just realised I’ve put this in the wrong thread meant to be about Naismith if a mod can merge kindly)  

Edited August 16, 2022 by CiderHeadDan

[bexhill reds]

6 minutes ago, TRL said:

I think he is gone, Pearson clearly likes him as a player or he would not be near the first team, and I think running down his contract rlis what is frustrating to Pearson, Massengo will always give 100% and his attitude is first rate, but the run down of his contract can sit easy with Pearson or those upstairs. Thankfully Pearson isn't being too belligerent and knows he can use the talent while he is still here.

 

Personally I hope he stays, but I think he has proven enough (other than goalscoring) to earn himself something lucrative elsewhere and probably at a higher level.

Perhaps so, if he pulls that sort of performance out each time he starts then we’ll miss him.

[TRL]

10 minutes ago, bexhill reds said:

Perhaps so, if he pulls that sort of performance out each time he starts then we’ll miss him.

I think we will. There is plenty to like with his game, I think the frustration when people complain about him is more to do with what you know he can do when he is on it.  And that can't be a bad thing.

 

And lets not forget he is still very young for a 1st team central midfielder who let's be fair when on it can dictate games, then add in he is playing in a foreign country where he is not speaking his mother tongue.

 

Personally I think the lad is fantastic when you take all of that into account

Edited August 16, 2022 by TRL

[AshtonRobin21]

One of his best games for us tonight. He was unplayable. 

His energy, combined with the composure he showed in possession, and the pressure he put on Luton when pressing.

He was superb. 

Long may it continue. 

[chinapig]

Players develop at differing rates and it's often one step forward, two steps back. But there is so much talent there and we have only scratched the surface so far.

I for one will be bitterly disappointed if we lose him.

[Red Billy]

Guilty at times of overplay in previous games. Beating the man and coming back in to the tackle again but tonight I thought he kept it simple and kept it moving forward.  He looked very assured.

[TV Tom]

He will go further than any of them, all his critics on here seem to forget how young he is

[mozo]

Massengo was top notch tonight.

I think the reason that HNM is a divisive player is simply that he's a confidence player. 

I can recall a couple of games where he couldn't kick a ball straight and others where he has been imperious.

Diedhiou was the same, not that I'm claiming it's a French thing.

Some players only show their best when they're feeling right, particularly as a 21 year old in a foreign land.

Edited August 16, 2022 by mozo

[ScottishRed]

3 minutes ago, harrys said:

He will go further than any of them, all his critics on here seem to forget how young he is

I think you are right, the lad will have an amazing career. He is a real talent.

[Finley_Smith10]

Sign the contract. He’s class. When on form him and Scott in the middle are so good

[chinapig]

1 minute ago, mozo said:

I think the reason that HNM is a decisive player is simply that he's a confidence playe

That's my feeling too. He seems a little diffident but I'd be constantly reminding him how good he is and encouraging him to just go out and believe in himself on the pitch.

[mozo]

HANG ON! 

Was that Massengo's 100th game for us?!

[italian dave]

7 minutes ago, mozo said:

HANG ON! 

Was that Massengo's 100th game for us?!

I think you’re right. Some going at that age, central midfield, and all in the Championship too. 

[t_b]

10 minutes ago, mozo said:

HANG ON! 

Was that Massengo's 100th game for us?!

All the social media stuff came up about his 100th game after Coventry, so make it 101 now 

[Hamdon Mart]

I've watched City for three seasons, this is my fourth and tonight was as good as I've seen Massengo play. Treat him right, get him to sign the contract and he will be a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuggggggge asset for the club, either playing wise or to sell & finance other transfers. 

I like the lad; 100 games in the bank six weeks after your 21st birthday is damn impressive. 

[TRL]

He's a French Tommy Doc.hopefully on les smokes 

[Silvio Dante]

3 minutes ago, TRL said:

He's a French Tommy Doc.hopefully on les smokes 

As he’s French, I don’t think we want him on “Les Smokes “….

 

[mozo]

9 minutes ago, tommy_b said:

All the social media stuff came up about his 100th game after Coventry, so make it 101 now 

Cool, I missed that. Merci!

[TRL]

2 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

As he’s French, I don’t think we want him on “Les Smokes “….

 

Very true 

[2015]

Fair play, he and Alex Scott were outstanding tonight, the Luton Midfield couldn't get near the pair of them

[GrahamC]

His best game for us in a very long time.

[PHILINFRANCE]

24 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

His best game for us in a very long time.

Since Preston away, last season?

[Red-Robbo]

31 minutes ago, 2015 said:

Fair play, he and Alex Scott were outstanding tonight, the Luton Midfield couldn't get near the pair of them

 

The only way they could stop them was foul them.  Sometimes the myopic ref let them get away with that, sometimes he didn't. 

[italian dave]

3 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

Since Preston away, last season?

That was probably the most memorable midfield performance I’ve seen in many years. Massengo and Scott playing together in a similar central pairing that day too. 

[petehinton]

Few dodgy moments first half, but quickly grew into one of the best on the pitch. Was superb second half. 
 

FWIW (could be BS) but heard today the sticking point re contract is that he’s been offered the exact same terms that he’s on right now, so basically extending his current contract rather than anything ‘new’

[redrob]

2 hours ago, Gazred said:

Classic HNM tonight. Must be a pain in the arse to play against. He's constantly pressing and getting stuck in.

A fine pass to help setup the goal as well.

Wait a sec.... But he doesn't get assists according to some on here? 

[sh1t_ref_again]

14 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Few dodgy moments first half, but quickly grew into one of the best on the pitch. Was superb second half. 
 

FWIW (could be BS) but heard today the sticking point re contract is that he’s been offered the exact same terms that he’s on right now, so basically extending his current contract rather than anything ‘new’

Interesting you say that, my thoughts to all the criticism of him not signing is, how do we know he has  been offered a good deal worth signing.

[SBB]

31 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Interesting you say that, my thoughts to all the criticism of him not signing is, how do we know he has  been offered a good deal worth signing.

Depends if what he is currently on is high relative to todays climate. If he’s on £10k per week, is he worth £15k?

[FNQ]

4 minutes ago, SBB said:

Depends if what he is currently on is high relative to todays climate. If he’s on £10k per week, is he worth £15k?

If it means that we get an extra million or two as and when we eventually have to sell, then bloody oath

[Cityboy1954]

On 07/08/2022 at 13:39, paul_fox said:

I've made my feelings known about him for a couple of years now. There's a  reason why Brentford let him go. We've leaked goals constantly since he's been here despite changes in the back like, time for a new No1 long overdue. His only real competition has been Max who isn't really championship quality. Maenpaa was way better and shame be got injured. 

Good shot stopper but never comes out and catches a ball his punching is always dodgy aswell.

 

[Davefevs]

2 hours ago, petehinton said:

Few dodgy moments first half, but quickly grew into one of the best on the pitch. Was superb second half. 
 

FWIW (could be BS) but heard today the sticking point re contract is that he’s been offered the exact same terms that he’s on right now, so basically extending his current contract rather than anything ‘new’

1 hour ago, SBB said:

Depends if what he is currently on is high relative to todays climate. If he’s on £10k per week, is he worth £15k?

Yep, there’s no way he came here for €3m on £2k p.w…and rightly so.  But with Ashton it’s likely he’s on a very decent wedge, but the wage market has moved.  Nige isn’t gonna break his wage structure…not for a player who isn’t at the consistent level of someone like Andi Weimann. But if there’s scope within that structure to give him a bit more, I would.

I’m a fan of his, think it will be a sad day if he leaves next summer.  C’mon Nige, work some magic!