Popular Post Olé Posted August 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2022 (edited) City’s long and distinguished record of getting knocked out in the first round of the League Cup met its match at Burton Albion’s Pirelli Stadium as Championship rivals Coventry City, who had previously insisted on us meeting them there tonight, decided not to bother turning up until we had the match more or less won. Match Reports from away games are always an acquired taste but it’s literally impossible to put into words any sort of detailed match report when it looked like a training exercise at 30 degrees with the sun blinding me, and with only a brief spell of opposition at the end of the first half and about 20 minutes second half. After weeks of ROBINS UNCUT we finally got the prototype for a match that plays out the same way as those pillow soft, edited City videos - hosts Coventry literally putting the cones out and insisting that they would never stray out of their own half until Pearson’s dominant visitors were 3 (BRACKETS THREE) in front. The opener came from a left wing City corner taken while bathed in the stunning sunset, at the second attempt Kai Naismith nodding down and into the bottom right corner. The visitors were camped in their nomadic hosts half and yet regularly miscuing the final ball down either flank with a chance to break more often. Despite this the confused hosts rarely breached the improbable and imaginary forcefield that separated the Coventry half from the Bristol City half and the away side continued to dominate - in fact the disorganisation of stewards outside the last minute ground was more than matched by the team occupying the ground. In less than 10 minutes it was two - Han-Noah Massengo, who became one of City’s star players and desperately needed a performance, threaded an inch perfect pass through Coventry’s casual defence, for which young striker Tommy Conway nicked in to skip past the last defender and apply the finish in the box. At 2-0 up and with former teammate Kasey Palmer struggling to link up with his side and - in the 28th minute - literally being robbed of the ball on halfway by the dominant visitors, it was creeping towards a one sided scoreline as the football remained in the Sky Blues half, and within minutes an amazing third arrived. On the half hour Nakhi Wells did well to prod the ball away from a developing Coventry passing move in their own half, and youngster Conway, buoyed by his goal, simply ran at defenders, jinking into space and then into the box, before drilling another low shot that rolled for an age inside the keeper, into the bottom corner. Before the half the supposed hosts started to find a pattern of play to advance but too often it relied on former City midfielder Palmer to pull the strings when in fact his teammates seemed to lack the enthusiasm or foresight to threaten their visitors. Twice before the break his through balls were met by no one in particular. The second half was a more balanced affair with Coventry probing the City box and yet inside the half hour it was Kane Wilson, on his full debut for City who centred a left wing corner that was flicked back beyond the near post and Wells cute back heel skewed just inside the upright. A threat, largely against the run of play. Coventry pulled a goal back after the one time a ball was played into the box with room to finish, but on the midway point of the half City proved they were still the more dangerous as top scorer Weimann exchanged passes with Wells, raced inside his marker from the right channel, and steered just past the left post. With Tanner on for Wilson, just before the final switches (Scott for King and Sykes for Conway) the away team flashed an opportunity in front of goal as Conway took on the left back, Wells recovered the loose ball and saw his first cross shot blocked but at the second attempt all action midfielder Massengo nearly headed in. By the end it was finally all the hosts, followed by more than 2000 visitors to this temporary Burton home, and apparently largely silent as they probed for a desperate second to put the match in doubt. The entry of Alex Scott and Mark Sykes probably did for them, restoring City’s advantage and conviction attacking on the break. Against the run of play with minutes before full time and in front of the noisy 300 City fans Sykes won a free kick on the right wing and then in injury time a ball over the top into the same space on the right was controlled by Weimann who drove inside his marker, into the box and prodded a shot through the keeper for a fourth. At the wrong ground and in unseasonably un-British weather this was like a summer football tournament style upset amid humid and blazing sunlight, and yet in truth despite the disorganisation at their temporary ground, “hosts” Coventry provided Bristol City with by far their easiest (and for now only) win of the season so far. Bentley 6 Vyner 6 Naismith 7 Atkinson 6 Massengo 8 King 6 Wilson 6 Pring 7 Weimann 7 Wells 6 Conway 7 Tanner 6 Scott 6 Sykes 6 Bell 6 Edited August 10, 2022 by Olé 6 30 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 Great report Rob. Following victory at the Pirelli will Nigel go with his fresh, new tyres at Wigan, or back to the re-treads? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Rob did Andi play more as a midfielder than a 10 tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Davefevs said: Rob did Andi play more as a midfielder than a 10 tonight? He drifted around a fair bit. Dropped deep and/or right at times, and in attack was running from deep. That dropping was more than just to defend. Saying this there were also occasions where it was Andi who pressed their keeper. I'm not sure I'd call him in a true midfield role but it was at least a second striker role with instructions to drop back at times. Rob might disagree but that is how I saw it. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 53 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: He drifted around a fair bit. Dropped deep and/or right at times, and in attack was running from deep. That dropping was more than just to defend. Saying this there were also occasions where it was Andi who pressed their keeper. I'm not sure I'd call him in a true midfield role but it was at least a second striker role with instructions to drop back at times. Rob might disagree but that is how I saw it. I think that with the form he is in the coaches should let him do what he feels is right, he seems to be in the zone as they say. The only cavaet being that his team mates need to be in tune with him. I was more interested in how we played without Martin, a lot of people on here on Saturday saying that without him we had no outlet ball/target, so how did we manage yesterday? I'd like to think that we kept the ball on the deck and played through midfield like other teams that don't play with a target man. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: I think that with the form he is in the coaches should let him do what he feels is right, he seems to be in the zone as they say. The only cavaet being that his team mates need to be in tune with him. I was more interested in how we played without Martin, a lot of people on here on Saturday saying that without him we had no outlet ball/target, so how did we manage yesterday? I'd like to think that we kept the ball on the deck and played through midfield like other teams that don't play with a target man. This is a bit of a cop-out but as @Olé says, Coventry offered so little in the first hour or so that it's hard or even dangerous to read much into how we played. Did we pass it around ok? Yes we did, but you can pass around cones easily, even without Chris Martin. We did keep it on the deck more (although if someone could stat-check that it would be useful), and were comfortable keeping possession in their half during the first 45. Massengo and King saw a fair bit of the ball in the middle and were able to use it effectively. Conway's movement was enthusiastic if not always precise. Ultimately I'd say we were good without Martin...because we didn't need Martin against that particular Coventry defence. We may need him against better organised teams. Edited August 11, 2022 by ExiledAjax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Port Said Red said: I think that with the form he is in the coaches should let him do what he feels is right, he seems to be in the zone as they say. The only cavaet being that his team mates need to be in tune with him. I was more interested in how we played without Martin, a lot of people on here on Saturday saying that without him we had no outlet ball/target, so how did we manage yesterday? I'd like to think that we kept the ball on the deck and played through midfield like other teams that don't play with a target man. I grew up (after the First Division days of Royle) on a diet of Neville and Riley, and that formed a lot of my “philosophy” that you don’t have to play with an old-English Target-Man. Fwiw I don’t think Martin is one either. There can be more to an out-ball than hitting it up in the air down the middle of the pitch, e.g. sometimes hit channel, turn them round and press up the pitch, etc. As a generalisation most Champ CBs are of the “hairy-arsed” variety, and hate movement (e.g. Flint), but love a physical battle. From what I’ve seen of Conway (I wasn’t there so didn’t see last night), he is very good (for a fledgling 20 year old making his way in the pro game) at playing as a pair. Never gets too far away from his partner, almost like he is on a bungee rope with Wells, always in-touch, one short, one spins and vice-versa. A lot of young strikers play 90% on the shoulder, and I’m always looking for those youngsters that look to play both ways. Conway is a good example of that. Will continue to monitor. Just looking at last nights passing map (average position of passes made): Kane Wilson making his passes high Weimann drifting into the right “half-space” (urgh…horrible phrase, given myself a slap) Atkinson high too. Seems like we played higher on the right than on the left. Did it feel like that to those who were there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I grew up (after the First Division days of Royle) on a diet of Neville and Riley, and that formed a lot of my “philosophy” that you don’t have to play with an old-English Target-Man. Fwiw I don’t think Martin is one either. There can be more to an out-ball than hitting it up in the air down the middle of the pitch, e.g. sometimes hit channel, turn them round and press up the pitch, etc. As a generalisation most Champ CBs are of the “hairy-arsed” variety, and hate movement (e.g. Flint), but love a physical battle. From what I’ve seen of Conway (I wasn’t there so didn’t see last night), he is very good (for a fledgling 20 year old making his way in the pro game) at playing as a pair. Never gets too far away from his partner, almost like he is on a bungee rope with Wells, always in-touch, one short, one spins and vice-versa. A lot of young strikers play 90% on the shoulder, and I’m always looking for those youngsters that look to play both ways. Conway is a good example of that. Will continue to monitor. Just looking at last nights passing map (average position of passes made): Kane Wilson making his passes high Weimann drifting into the right “half-space” (urgh…horrible phrase, given myself a slap) Atkinson high too. Seems like we played higher on the right than on the left. Did it feel like that to those who were there? I do agree, my point was that people seemed to think that playing with Martin makes us one-dimensional and a long ball team, but I see a lot of variety in our attacks, especially with WSM. I think the only issue I have at the moment is that without the strength and central direct running of Semenyo, we only seem to have two outlets, Martin or the wingbacks, both of which I think Sunderland eventually negated. I might be wrong, but I don't think Martin won a ball cleanly until just before halftime and even then it was out toward the Dolman touchline. That left us with the wingbacks, which they then started to target more effectively. Funnily enough it was my wife, who has little interest really and is easily distracted, who pointed out that Alex Neill was a) outside his technical area (much to her annoyance) and b) was "flapping his arms like a nutter" . As the 3nd half unfolded I think it became clear what that was indicating to the team. The Riley and Neville partnership which you mentioned was a great example of how movement can compensate for size, one of the few times I have ever agreed with Bobby Gould was when he said in commentary once, that they were like beggars living on scraps, and made a meal of every single morsel that came their way Edited August 11, 2022 by Port Said Red 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Just looking at last nights passing map (average position of passes made): Kane Wilson making his passes high Weimann drifting into the right “half-space” (urgh…horrible phrase, given myself a slap) Atkinson high too. Seems like we played higher on the right than on the left. Wilson was pushing up yes. Weimann then often dropped wide and right to fill in the hole left in Wilson's wake. Hence Andi's average pass position is deeper and more to the right. I saw him playing anywhere in a band from where Vyner is on that map up to where Wells and Conway appeared. He was kinda playing a whack-a-mole role, covering the gaps as they appeared in that area, and allowing others to push on. Basically running around a lot! Atkinson appears high there because Coventry's "midfield" seemed happy for him to do his Beckenbauer/Webster/Ayling style forward runs into midfield, where he'd then lay off to Pring or one of the CMs. Naismith and Vyner were the ones sweeping up as the map shows. Hard for me to answer your last question, wasn't really something I watched for or noticed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 I am more amazed at Palmer showing more enthusiasm for the game than any of his teammates than I am at the score and the victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: I grew up (after the First Division days of Royle) on a diet of Neville and Riley, and that formed a lot of my “philosophy” that you don’t have to play with an old-English Target-Man. To be fair, for the first season that Riley and Neville played together Steve Neville couldn’t buy a goal. My memory is that Neville fared best next to Trevor Morgan…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: To be fair, for the first season that Riley and Neville played together Steve Neville couldn’t buy a goal. My memory is that Neville fared best next to Trevor Morgan…. Initially you are right, he struggled for goals, but all partnerships aren’t necessarily equal in goals output… Taylor and Turner Owen and Heskey Beardsley and Lineker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 Super Bob and Turner..............Happy Day's! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted August 11, 2022 Share Posted August 11, 2022 1 hour ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: To be fair, for the first season that Riley and Neville played together Steve Neville couldn’t buy a goal. My memory is that Neville fared best next to Trevor Morgan…. Neville I think was a converted winger so took a while to get into the goals. I think a lot of his goals came away from in breakaway style. He scored a beauty taking the ball on the run away to Gillingham and a really good one at Newport as I remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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