Pearson

[Top Robin]

I so want him to succeed because I know he has the pedigree and experience to make it happen for us.

But, I fear he may be one of those managers who has lost his 'mojo' and has peaked a few years back.

Arguably there may have been a slight improvement but it is so inconsistent and generally I don't feel he is moving us forward at the pace we need. 

Frankly, some of the performances under his tenure have been laughable.

I don't know who could replace him and it's not up to me suggest anyone but I don't think he is the one for us.

[JoeAman08]

Reactive manager. Limited tactically. Plays Martin full 90 even though he is done by 40. He is the main problem at the club. Stop giving him credit for a clear out that would have happened regardless.

[Alan Dicks]

Hasn’t really done anything significant in his whole time here.

[Andy082005]

4 minutes ago, Top Robin said:

I so want him to succeed because I know he has the pedigree and experience to make it happen for us.

But, I fear he may be one of those managers who has lost his 'mojo' and has peaked a few years back.

Arguably there may have been a slight improvement but it is so inconsistent and generally I don't feel he is moving us forward at the pace we need. 

Frankly, some of the performances under his tenure have been laughable.

I don't know who could replace him and it's not up to me suggest anyone but I don't think he is the one for us.

‘Yesterdays manager’

Football has moved on in the last few years. Managers who got success a few years ago have not evolved their styles and they can no longer cut it 

Time to move him on. This team look worse now then when he took over . He’s been an absolute shambles

[TV Tom]

He could barely have been worse other than getting relegated last season, decisions like keeping Martin on for the full 90 minutes are truly truly baffling, however he’s going nowhere and we have no alternative but to stick behind him

[MC RISK77]

1 minute ago, RudiRed said:

Is he that decent manager? Managed the likrs of Leicesger and Hull who were big fish in small ponds.

Recent years his record is awful, at derby, leuven and Watford.

Thought he was unlucky at Watford from memory they were sitting outside of prem relegation zone with only a handful of games left when their bonkers owners sacked him

[Rossi the Robin]

1 minute ago, RudiRed said:

Is he that decent manager? Managed the likrs of Leicesger and Hull who were big fish in small ponds.

Recent years his record is awful, at derby, leuven and Watford.

He would have kept Watford up and they beat Liverpool 3-0

 

[TonyTonyTony]

3 games people. 3 games

[BCFCGav]

I wouldn’t lose any sleep if he left at this point sadly. His record is so poor and there are so many issues in our play that don’t seem to ever be solved.

[cityexile]

It’s a difficult one. I thought we might be a bit dull but very solid. No reason we should not be at Preston or Millwall level. In this heat I also don’t really get not making all the subs you can, especially when some players are clearly knackered.

Not getting the 50/50s with refs so maybe been a bit unlucky, but want to see where we are after 10 games. 

[Bristol Oil Services]

4 minutes ago, RudiRed said:

Is he that decent manager? Managed the likrs of Leicesger and Hull who were big fish in small ponds.

Recent years his record is awful, at derby, leuven and Watford.

Hull are a fish, I'll give you that.

[GrahamC]

And so it starts…

Certain posters joining in 5,4,3,2,1….

[BarnzFM]

Just now, TonyTonyTony said:

3 games people. 3 games

but it’s not is it, it’s last season as well. 

 

[TonyTonyTony]

Just now, BarnzFM said:

but it’s not is it, it’s last season as well. 

 

The last 10 games last season the form table had us in 6th place in the league.

[Andy082005]

3 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said:

3 games people. 3 games

You cannot just ignore the 46 games last season 

[Robbored]

1 minute ago, TonyTonyTony said:

3 games people. 3 games

Usual reaction Tony - all us experienced posters know that it’s expected. No surprises to see these  pessimistic comments.

[Bris Red]

4 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said:

3 games people. 3 games

It’s not though is it really. The theme has continued on from last season.

[Pezo]

1 minute ago, Andy082005 said:

You cannot just ignore the 46 games last season 

Where he met expectations and kept us up didn't he.

[Bs4Red]

Zero progress, don’t get how he gets such an easy ride. Defending is absolutely pathetic

[Andy082005]

Just now, Pezo said:

Where he met expectations and kept us up didn't he.

Genuine question…at what point do you think we say enough is enough? 
 

[GrahamC]

1 minute ago, Pezo said:

Where he met expectations and kept us up didn't he.

W15 D10 L21 after shifting 14 players & nearly halving the wage bill.

Why weren’t we top six!

[oldstandrobin]

Just now, Andy082005 said:

Genuine question…at what point do you think we say enough is enough? 
 

If we start going adrift at the bottom say by October, thats the time

[bearded_red]

This thread is almost like a competition for who can say the most over the top thing.

’main problem at the club’

’worse than when he took over’.

Really? Come on.

Edited August 13, 2022 by bearded_red

[TonyTonyTony]

1 minute ago, GrahamC said:

W15 D10 L21 after shifting 14 players & nearly halving the wage bill.

Exactly this.

[GrahamC]

1 minute ago, bearded_red said:

This thread is almost like a competition for who can say the most over the top thing.

’main problem at the club’

’worse than when he took over’.

Come on.

I’ll have a go;

”Should never have sold Bakinson, scored (in League One) today”..

Any good?

[Galley is our king]

14 minutes ago, Top Robin said:

I so want him to succeed because I know he has the pedigree and experience to make it happen for us.

But, I fear he may be one of those managers who has lost his 'mojo' and has peaked a few years back.

Arguably there may have been a slight improvement but it is so inconsistent and generally I don't feel he is moving us forward at the pace we need. 

Frankly, some of the performances under his tenure have been laughable.

I don't know who could replace him and it's not up to me suggest anyone but I don't think he is the one for us.

Sigh, here we go again!

Did you have this written hoping we would lose?

I must admit your damn quick with the negative post!

You say "I don't think he's the one for us"..... us?

I ask again..... how old are you and when was the last time you saw the team at the Gate?

[Glen hump]

6 minutes ago, Bs4Red said:

Zero progress, don’t get how he gets such an easy ride. Defending is absolutely pathetic

I’m a big np fan but his inability to sort us out defensively is worrying.

[Sheltons Army]

1 minute ago, GrahamC said:

W15 D10 L21 after shifting 14 players & nearly halving the wage bill.

Why weren’t we top six!

We haven’t been a ‘good side’ at this level , except for 4 months or so , since we got promoted

Pearsons not pulling up any spectacular trees,  but the surgery he’s having to do wouldn’t be palatable or acceptable to many managers , to have a manager who accepts the difficulties and is prepared to take it on is a plus for a start.

 

I really wonder what some expect 

Maybe , like you , I’ve become very used to City’s trials and tribulations over the decades 

We've had decent periods in all three league games and I’d be more concerned if we had just been thumped at Rotherham for example

[pongo88]

It’s not all bad. We’re only 4 points off a playoff place. If this was the Gas forum it would be talk about certain promotion 

[One Team]

Dear God some of the posts on here! 

 

[ProfitInMyPocket]

We're not LJ/MA's little project anymore. No false hopes of playoffs, we can't spunk money up the wall and get away with it. 

Scored in every league game so far. Giving young lads their first starts in professional football and getting them up to scratch under difficult circumstances. Remember reading that we've spent less than Luton since his appointment but there's no positives or progressions given the circumstances?

I don't have any hefty expectations anymore, I just want to see us compete and work hard for the shirt. 

This team is at the bones but I still see them play till the end and keep going. Yes, they make mistakes but I can't say that they don't try.

 

 

[petehinton]

Conway and Scott would be nowhere near the squad under another manager. Turned Scott and Semenyo into £15m+ players, that will get us out of the deep shit that Holden, LJ & Ashton left us in.
 

Been ahead in every single game this season. I’ll start worrying if that stops happening and we start conceding goals that aren’t individual errors, in no way linked to coaching, or shit penalties/deflected goals. 

Edited August 13, 2022 by petehinton

[Pezo]

1 minute ago, Andy082005 said:

Genuine question…at what point do you think we say enough is enough? 
 

I am giving him until Christmas to get us to somewhere above 18th but in reality (the financial reality) I don't think we should get rid of him until the end of this season. That being said the funds available in next summer's transfer window will be slightly looser - would be interesting to see what he could do with a better budget rather than trying to cost manage our unwinding of the shit that MA left us in.

[Davefevs]

14 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

You cannot just ignore the 46 games last season 

I don’t recall 46 shit games last season was it?

[One Team]

11 minutes ago, Pezo said:

Where he met expectations and kept us up didn't he.

Exactly. Do people seriously expect us to be challenging for the play offs or something? 

Whilst we may not have won a game yet there have been plenty of positives.

[headhunter]

3 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

We haven’t been a ‘good side’ at this level , except for 4 months or so , since we got promoted

 

I would say the start of 17/18, 18/19 & 19/20 were decent and I'm no fan of LJ

[One Team]

1 minute ago, petehinton said:

Conway and Scott would be nowhere near the squad under another manager. Turned Scott and Semenyo into £15m+ players, that will get us out of the deep shit that Holden, LJ & Ashton left us in.
 

Been ahead in every single game this season. I’ll start worrying if that stops happening and we start conceding goals that aren’t individual errors, in no way linked to coaching, or shit penalties/deflected goals. 

Spot on mate. Spot on.

[Davefevs]

I thought we defended okay today. I thought we didn’t play through midfield second half, but guys defended like it mattered.  Bents hasn’t made a save of note.

We gave away ball cheaply when we tried to pass forward.

Should’ve been playing against ten men too.

[AppyDAZE]

I'm not a Pearson out person,  but it pisses me off when posters say those that are want us to lose. So unfair.

[Negan]

No improvement football wise. Get he’s had a hard job but any manager that would genuinely have us moving forward would of improved us at least a bit in 2 years. Really hate to say it but I’m now Pearson out. He won’t go for a while yet but nothing I’ve seen from him makes me believe we’ll be any better with him in charge in 2/3/4 months time. 

[mightyreds89]

I’m hugely and quickly losing confidence in NP having previously been very supportive.  
 
It can’t be any coincidence that we start games on the front foot quick passing, playing high up looking decent get in front (Hull, Sunderland, Wigan) and then stop pressing drop deeper and give away the ball. We’ve proved we can play but then suddenly our game changes always when we’re in front. 

lack of subs today before the equaliser was unreal especially in the heat when you can now use 5 subs taking off Conway and not Martin,

not bringing on King to shield the defence after doing so, so we’ll in the week. Not replacing the in effective JD with Pring. 
 

Beggars belief TBF. 

 

 

 

[Negan]

3 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I don’t recall 46 shit games last season was it?

No, about 38 though. 

[steveybadger]

Oh **** another late winner conceded.

Eh? What?
 
Stop confusing me!

[Loosey Boy]

Why am I not surprised to see yet another “Pearson” thread tonight!
 

I would have taken a point before todays game, enabling us to build on Wednesday nights result. Let’s not forget, Wigan made 11 changes on Tuesday and had an extra 24 hours to prepare for todays game in stifling conditions.

Our “supporters” need to have a look at what he inherited and the restrictions he’s working under!

Whilst I’m as frustrated as everyone else by our start, having led on all three games, we ain’t that far away from being an “OK” side this season and I for one, am happy that we maintain our Championship status.

Get Semenyo and Kalas back (2 of our best players) and the DF Midfielder we need and we will be absolutely fine.

Having said that, we need to get our home season off and running on Tuesday now.

COYRs

 

[Jacki]

6 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

Genuine question…at what point do you think we say enough is enough? 
 

Have you ever not wanted to see a manager sacked? It feels like every time I’ve logged on here on a match day over the years you’re calling for a manager’s head.

Pearson’s record has been far from perfect but he’s clearing up an absolute mess and we achieved a par performance last season in most people’s eyes. We also played some decent football in the second half of the season.

Are we going to challenge this season? It seems highly unlikely. Are we infuriating to watch at times, especially when we’re defending? We definitely are. But ripping everything up and starting again 3 games in would be an unbelievable over reaction.

Let’s see where we are after 10-15 games and take a measured view of things then. 

[Bristol Oil Services]

19 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

And so it starts…

Certain posters joining in 5,4,3,2,1….

Well, hang on. And come off it. When things go well, you are always starting threads like "Weimann" or what have you, so when things are shite - and in a free country, let us remember - ......

[Pezo]

12 minutes ago, RudiRed said:

No, SL and RG said we didn't meet the expectation of mid table add in in fact little progress so far this season = worrying times.

That was more in line with where we would like to be not where we expected to be. I think JL said expected but he is loose and fast with his words, NP said after that we were about where he expected to be - obviously not a target set within the club or if it is then not one the manager agreed with and I will take the football man's target over the wallet, wallets son and the administrator every day of the week.

[JoeAman08]

3 points in 3 games. We expecting any of them to be top half come end of the season? I have never seen a manager get so much leeway for poor performances.

65 league games and the same problems exist. He has signed 6 defenders and 2 midfielders. Our 2 weakest positions still. His way of managing is the same as Lee Johnson. All reactive if Plan A does not work. We need a goal throw on more strikers just like Johnson. He shows no ability to try and control a game. They are overloading wide areas why not try getting Wilson on and have Sykes help out there? Same on the left with Pring and Dasilva. Why not Martin off and King on to help get on ball a bit more? Nope nothing like that.
 

Sat there with his hands on his hips and can just see in the body language has no idea what to do. Takes our two youngest players off in 35 degree heat. Does not use all his subs in said heat. We were under pressure for 35 minutes second half and he made 2 like for like changes. 

[Andy082005]

6 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I don’t recall 46 shit games last season was it?

I didn’t say it was 46 shit games. I certainly don’t think it was acceptable though. And at the very least I expected to see some progress this season compared to last….even if it was just a little bit 

 

 

[Rossi the Robin]

5 minutes ago, Negan said:

No improvement football wise. Get he’s had a hard job but any manager that would genuinely have us moving forward would of improved us at least a bit in 2 years. Really hate to say it but I’m now Pearson out. He won’t go for a while yet but nothing I’ve seen from him makes me believe we’ll be any better with him in charge in 2/3/4 months time. 

No improvement football wise?

We could barely string one pass together when he arrived. 

[Bristol Oil Services]

10 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

 

 

I really wonder what some expect 

I start every Championship season hoping we can do as well as Preston. And Preston and Millwall. And now Preston and Millwall and Luton. And maybe Rotherham. You would think I would learn by now. 

[Andy082005]

1 minute ago, JoeAman08 said:

3 points in 3 games. We expecting any of them to be top half come end of the season? I have never seen a manager get so much leeway for poor performances.

65 league games and the same problems exist. He has signed 6 defenders and 2 midfielders. Our 2 weakest positions still. His way of managing is the same as Lee Johnson. All reactive if Plan A does not work. We need a goal throw on more strikers just like Johnson. He shows no ability to try and control a game. They are overloading wide areas why not try getting Wilson on and have Sykes help out there? Same on the left with Pring and Dasilva. Why not Martin off and King on to help get on ball a bit more? Nope nothing like that.
 

Sat there with his hands on his hips and can just see in the body language has no idea what to do. Takes our two youngest players off in 35 degree heat. Does not use all his subs in said heat. We were under pressure for 35 minutes second half and he made 2 like for like changes. 

Absolutely on the money 

[Lack of Action Man]

Pearson was the reason I got my ST back (let it elapse when LJ was appointed, just couldn’t get enthused by him). I had really high hopes that we had appointed someone proven at long last.

I think he needs more time fwiw… but I think some of the criticisms directed at him are valid too. 
 

Pearson in… for now.

[GrahamC]

4 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

Well, hang on. And come off it. When things go well, you are always starting threads like "Weimann" or what have you, so when things are shite - and in a free country, let us remember - ......

Perception, isn’t it?

I don’t see a point away from home at Championship level as “shite”.

Context, too. If you inherit a bloated, high cost shambles & are given minimal resource in comparison to predecessors it isn’t ever going to be a bed of roses.

As others have pointed out, we normally do this sort of financial pruning after relegation, Pearson is trying to do so to avoid that.

But “Zak Vyner”, eh?

[Rudolf Hucker]

17 minutes ago, Galley is our king said:

Sigh, here we go again!

Did you have this written hoping we would lose?

I must admit your damn quick with the negative post!

You say "I don't think he's the one for us"..... us?

I ask again..... how old are you and when was the last time you saw the team at the Gate?

‘Top Robin’ my arse. 

[Davefevs]

10 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

I'm not a Pearson out person,  but it pisses me off when posters say those that are want us to lose. So unfair.

Because some people can’t wait to post negative stuff.  They go absent when we win or play well.  At least they should post on here in the good bad and indifferent results / performances.

Today wasn’t too bad anyway.

[AppyDAZE]

Just now, Davefevs said:

Because some people can’t wait to post negative stuff.  They go absent when we win or play well.  At least they should post on here in the good bad and indifferent results / performances.

Today wasn’t too bad anyway.

That's fair too.

[Kingswood Robin]

Do we really want someone who's lost interest appointing his replacement? 

It's not just about 3 games, I think people are fed up because it's been so drab for so long. For me the ownership situation needs concluding ASAP. You either want it or you don't, there's no in between. Where's the light at the end of the tunnel? It feels staler than the french stick I threw out this morning! 

[Barrs Court Red]

Just now, Kingswood Robin said:

Do we really want someone who's lost interest appointing his replacement? 

It's not just about 3 games, I think people are fed up because it's been so drab for so long. For me the ownership situation needs concluding ASAP. You either want it or you don't, there's no in between. Where's the light at the end of the tunnel? It feels staler than the french stick I threw out this morning! 

Absolutely my view. Pearson goes we’re still stuck with the absent owner and barely functional chairman. 

[TonyTonyTony]

Could be worse : taxi for Ten Hag

Edited August 13, 2022 by TonyTonyTony

[MelksRed]

30 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

I’ll have a go;

”Should never have sold Bakinson, scored (in League One) today”..

Any good?

I doft my cap to thee Sir......that is (without doubt) the most over the top thing I have EVER seen on this forum....keep Bakinson

.....LMFAO

[MelksRed]

6 minutes ago, Kingswood Robin said:

It feels staler than the french stick I threw out this morning! 

It's three games in.....let's not get carried away by talking all things Europe yet...... ;o )

[tin]

50 minutes ago, Alan Dicks said:

Hasn’t really done anything significant in his whole time here.

What had your namesake done after two years in charge? Bugger all, too, then what happened?

Pearson’s done a lot of good in his time here IMO, ridding the deadwood and lowering the wage bill. I accept, however, there are concerns over early performances and some of his decisions. 

Edited August 13, 2022 by tin

[Ivorguy]

29 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

We haven’t been a ‘good side’ at this level , except for 4 months or so , since we got promoted

Pearsons not pulling up any spectacular trees,  but the surgery he’s having to do wouldn’t be palatable or acceptable to many managers , to have a manager who accepts the difficulties and is prepared to take it on is a plus for a start.

 

I really wonder what some expect 

Maybe , like you , I’ve become very used to City’s trials and tribulations over the decades 

We've had decent periods in all three league games and I’d be more concerned if we had just been thumped at Rotherham for example

I think your first two paragraphs above are spot on.  I will support Nige until the last moment.  God help us if Nige does decide to go.  As the saying goes, we are up a creek without a paddle.  If Nige goes then forget about the paddle for we shall have lost the boat too.

[Sheltons Army]

18 minutes ago, ProfitInMyPocket said:

We're not LJ/MA's little project anymore. No false hopes of playoffs, we can't spunk money up the wall and get away with it. 

Scored in every league game so far. Giving young lads their first starts in professional football and getting them up to scratch under difficult circumstances. Remember reading that we've spent less than Luton since his appointment but there's no positives or progressions given the circumstances?

I don't have any hefty expectations anymore, I just want to see us compete and work hard for the shirt. 

This team is at the bones but I still see them play till the end and keep going. Yes, they make mistakes but I can't say that they don't try.

 

 

Good and sensible post

We aren’t playing Fantasy Football Manager anymore but dealing with the harsh reality of trying to compete at this level whilst conducting life saving financial surgery

Not an easy job

Our own young players breaking into the first team , two of them now our biggest assets.......

We’ve never been a serious club at this level (That’s the stark reality) in our history , yet people are losing their **** with Pearson not establishing us so , with the constraints he’s under ignored

A great set of opening results ....no

but you’d think we’d just been thumped and humiliated in the three games 

Areas of concern , frustration..... yes of course but we are playing some good stuff in periods, our problem is consistency over 90 mins

Theres no guarantee but the ability to produce these spells is normally a positive one for any side, the transition to 90 min performances is the next big step

The impatience and despair is something I can’t grasp 

We had our chance(s) to punch upwards , with the momentum , squad , assets , and finance - - - post Cotts Promotion

We didn’t take them and ended up in a mess - that’s the reality and anyone who thinks we can suddenly turn into a force in this division is going to be disappointed IMV

[Bs4Red]

19 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Because some people can’t wait to post negative stuff.  They go absent when we win or play well.  At least they should post on here in the good bad and indifferent results / performances.

Today wasn’t too bad anyway.

Second half was embarrassing. Can’t have “decent spells” in games and be happy. 

I just can’t understand how we can be so unorganised defensively for so long. When is someone going to think “maybe we should work on that” 

His whole tenure has been riddled with awful defending 

[Red Exile]

8 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

Absolutely my view. Pearson goes we’re still stuck with the absent owner and barely functional chairman. 

Agreed. In my view we're lucky to have a football man of Pearson's pedigree trying to sort out a right mess. 

The mess has been made in the Boardroom. Investment was needed when Cotts took us up. We had the nucleus of a great squad. LJ should never have replaced him. LJ should never have stayed so long - in my opinion should have gone at the end of 2017/18 when he so obviously failed to capitalise on the great position we had achieved by Christmas...we fell apart, and did so every year thereafter. He wasn't up to the job. As for Holden! It's hard to stand still in life, you're going forwards or backwards. I read @Kid in the Riot's post the other day - spot on I think, SL very happy to sit at this level. No real ambition. Tied his whole project to LJ/MA. Not turned out well.

 

[REDOXO]

Mr Pearson took over a ******* shit show. We are still a work n progress with limited finances. 
 

 

[JoeAman08]

2 minutes ago, Bs4Red said:

Second half was embarrassing. Can’t have “decent spells” in games and be happy. 

I just can’t understand how we can be so unorganised defensively for so long. When is someone going to think “maybe we should work on that” 

His whole tenure has been riddled with awful defending 

Bingo. We have 20 minutes spells where we look decent and people want to focus on that. I have been to all 3 league games. I don’t want to come on here saying how poor we are but nothing has changed. And I get finances are an issue but he has addressed problem areas which have had 0 affect. Individually on their day we have plenty who look capable but the man making the decisions can’t put the pieces together after plenty of time. 

[Fordy62]

1 hour ago, RudiRed said:

Is he that decent manager? Managed the likrs of Leicesger and Hull who were big fish in small ponds.

Recent years his record is awful, at derby, leuven and Watford.

You should probably look up his record at Watford. If you did, then you wouldn’t have made yourself look so silly.