Nige on SSN

[exAtyeoMax]

3 minutes ago, spudski said:

I find his other two statements more interesting than the standard of officiating.

The fact he finds modern football shallow and irritating 

In further interviews, it would be interesting for a journalist to press him on what parts of the game he finds shallow and irritating.

When you start to find parts of your job irritating...you start to lose the passion. 

 

Or you focus more what is irritating and it becomes the only thing you see.

[cityexile]

6 minutes ago, spudski said:

I find his other two statements more interesting than the standard of officiating.

The fact he finds modern football shallow and irritating 

In further interviews, it would be interesting for a journalist to press him on what parts of the game he finds shallow and irritating.

When you start to find parts of your job irritating...you start to lose the passion. 

 

The problem is he may very well have on his list ‘journalists’…

[GrahamC]

3 minutes ago, spudski said:

I find his other two statements more interesting than the standard of officiating.

The fact he finds modern football shallow and irritating 

In further interviews, it would be interesting for a journalist to press him on what parts of the game he finds shallow and irritating.

When you start to find parts of your job irritating...you start to lose the passion. 

 

I think he’s been pretty open about this in the past.

His comments to Geoff Twentyman about Sky Sports hype being “crap” & his refusal to deal with agents.

I don’t detect any loss of passion, he’s a cynic, he finds pointless, badly researched questions by journalists at his press conferences tedious, so comes across as chippy, but he has said numerous times he is motivated by finding solutions, especially as he knew full well when he took the job, we are in a very difficult place financially.

Said before we are exactly the same age (he’s 59 next week, I was at the weekend) & you reach a stage in your career when you just can’t be bothered with all the nonsense.

I am convinced this will be his last job in football but that doesn’t mean he wants to stop soon, or before he’s achieved what is possible with us.

[Dan Robin]

Given what happened last season, he had all the rights to express his frustration about referees and the system around them. Maybe it won't have any positive effects but...well done, Nigel!

[spudski]

5 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Or you focus more what is irritating and it becomes the only thing you see.

It resonated with myself...for exactly the reasons you say.

I previously used to coach a sport professionally. I loved it, so passionate. Then internal politics took over...how the association changed for the worse. Power struggles and change that made no sense. The passion drained as everything seemed to contradict itself. Like you say...the irritation became the main focus and just wore your passion down. Banging your head against a brick wall, knowing you can't change it. 

7 minutes ago, cityexile said:

The problem is he may very well have on his list ‘journalists’…

 

5 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

I think he’s been pretty open about this in the past.

His comments to Geoff Twentyman about Sky Sports hype being “crap” & his refusal to deal with agents.

I don’t detect any loss of passion, he’s a cynic, he finds pointless, badly researched questions by journalists at his press conferences tedious, so comes across as chippy, but he has said numerous times he is motivated by finding solutions, especially as he knew full well when he took the job, we are in a very difficult place financially.

Said before we are exactly the same age (he’s 59 next week, I was at the weekend) & you reach a stage in your career when you just can’t be bothered with all the nonsense.

I am convinced this will be his last job in football but that doesn’t mean he wants to stop soon, or before he’s achieved what is possible with us.

I agree with those views. At a certain age, you can no longer suffer fools gladly.

[Gillies Downs Leeds]

3 hours ago, Northern Red said:

He's probably also seen that our old pal Andy Davies, of QPR game fame, is down to do the Wycombe game next week. That'll do wonders for his mood....

I think he was ref who gave us a pen in the pre season friendly at Bournemouth.

[bcfc01]

Message to Nige - Don't let the bastards grind you down.

 

[Red-Robbo]

1 minute ago, GrahamC said:

I am convinced this will be his last job in football but that doesn’t mean he wants to stop soon, or before he’s achieved what is possible with us.

 

I think you're right. Unlike some people in the game, he has lots of other interests - more than the traditional 'playing golf', but he does that as well - and will want to enjoy a well-earned retirement.  Plus, he's the sort of guy who will want to go out on a high, not a low. Reputation and respect matter as much as money in this stage of his career.

He makes very sensible points about the officiating. The decision-making is supposed to be scrutinised post-game by an independent assessor, who can bring in other members of the oversight panel if he thinks the ref has dropped a bollock. So, given that they are professional officials at Championship level, why are so many, so bad?

I'd love to hear last night ref's explanation of his yellow to Freeman. If someone charges into your back when you aren't expecting it and sends you flying that is violent conduct, whether it's off a football pitch or on it. Violent conduct is a straight red, three match ban. 

[spudski]

This image sums up refereeing standards.

Should be made into a meme.

They can't see, and more interested in how they look.

It's of the fourth official yesterday. How the hell can you take an official seriously...discuss with them...when they are obviously trying to be noticed,  vicariously trying to be a 'footballer', rather than a serious official and doing the job for the right reasons.

I often get the impression that a good majority of officials these days, don't love refereeing and do the job because they enjoy it. But rather, are failed footballers or fans of football...that have seen refereeing as a way to be part of Professional football, on the pitch with top players, creating an importance in themselves, a persona, a character, where they feel they are also 'stars' of the show. Where they feel they are just as important as the players.

A good official should go unnoticed.

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/referee-darren-bond-gestures-as-he-leaves-the-pitch-after-news-photo/1240808707

 

Edited August 17, 2022 by spudski

[Lorenzos Only Goal]

32 minutes ago, spudski said:

I find his other two statements more interesting than the standard of officiating.

The fact he finds modern football shallow and irritating 

In further interviews, it would be interesting for a journalist to press him on what parts of the game he finds shallow and irritating.

When you start to find parts of your job irritating...you start to lose the passion. 

 

For me it's that fact you can clearly see most markedly with Man Utd all the players who go there seem to lose their focus on the game and turn shit.  It can't be money can it........ 

[sh1t_ref_again]

1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said:

They were discussing VAR in the Premier League, on Talksport yesterday morning. VAR doesn’t seem to be the answer either (I’d hate it). They are proposing having a committee to explain the decisions and give reasons for their decisions. It’s so over complicating, dragging out an issue which should be sorted in real time. It’ll kill the game completely. VAR worked fine in the Euro’s, here it’s like some drawn out parish council meeting. Good grief

The problem with VAR is its trying to be too precise and be 100% correct, when VAR was introduced it was supposed to be for clear and obvious mistakes, but now we have every goal scrutinised for minutes, in case someone's hair follicle was offside.

Make it so the reviews have a time limit, say 30 seconds if that's enough to get the different camera angles, an experienced ref reviewing should be able to determine if its a obvious mistake in that time and if he cant then its not that obvious, maybe give managers 2 challenges in a game that they can go to the 4th official and ask for a review of an incident, so you are not solely reliant on the ref asking for a review or it being done automatically on every decision and action.

The game moves so fast now and very difficult for a ref / assistant to keep up with all the action and see what's going on, with so much at stake and money in the modern game they need help.

[TheReds]

6 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

The problem with VAR is its trying to be too precise and be 100% correct, when VAR was introduced it was supposed to be for clear and obvious mistakes, but now we have every goal scrutinised for minutes, in case someone's hair follicle was offside.

Make it so the reviews have a time limit, say 30 seconds if that's enough to get the different camera angles, an experienced ref reviewing should be able to determine if its a obvious mistake in that time and if he cant then its not that obvious, maybe give managers 2 challenges in a game that they can go to the 4th official and ask for a review of an incident, so you are not solely reliant on the ref asking for a review or it being done automatically on every decision and action.

The game moves so fast now and very difficult for a ref / assistant to keep up with all the action and see what's going on, with so much at stake and money in the modern game they need help.

This.

For offsides VAR should be one line across the pitch and if you cannot see they are offside it's not offside. End of. Should be done in seconds from a studio and relayed back with hardly any interruptions.

It's got to the point of "look what we can do". 

 

[Roadrunner]

Well said Nigel, but please don't walk away.

Going back many years British refs were rightly regarded as the best in the world. Today that is not the case, watching European matches and World cup matches their are some great refs around the world. So with all the money in the prem why cant they employee say ten of the best in the word. Then relegate ten down to the Championship that might improve standards. After that each season one or two if thought good enough go back to the Prem and so on.

Also as the Championship is regarded as the 6th best league in the world and the financial pluses large therefor decisions taken by refs have a massive impact on the clubs VAR has to come in.

[bcfc01]

5 minutes ago, Roadrunner said:

Well said Nigel, but please don't walk away.

Going back many years British refs were rightly regarded as the best in the world. Today that is not the case, watching European matches and World cup matches their are some great refs around the world. So with all the money in the prem why cant they employee say ten of the best in the word. Then relegate ten down to the Championship that might improve standards. After that each season one or two if thought good enough go back to the Prem and so on.

Also as the Championship is regarded as the 6th best league in the world and the financial pluses large therefor decisions taken by refs have a massive impact on the clubs VAR has to come in.

Great post.

Why not get the best refs from around the world into our game ?

 

[Davefevs]

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

Said before we are exactly the same age (he’s 59 next week, I was at the weekend) & you reach a stage in your career when you just can’t be bothered with all the nonsense.

I am convinced this will be his last job in football but that doesn’t mean he wants to stop soon, or before he’s achieved what is possible with us.

If he’s not 59 til next week, I incorrectly said Alex Scott was 19 already (a @headhuntererrir )…as they share the same birthday…just 40 years apart.

1 hour ago, spudski said:

This image sums up refereeing standards.

Should be made into a meme.

They can't see, and more interested in how they look.

It's of the fourth official yesterday. How the hell can you take an official seriously...discuss with them...when they are obviously trying to be noticed,  vicariously trying to be a 'footballer', rather than a serious official and doing the job for the right reasons.

I often get the impression that a good majority of officials these days, don't love refereeing and do the job because they enjoy it. But rather, are failed footballers or fans of football...that have seen refereeing as a way to be part of Professional football, on the pitch with top players, creating an importance in themselves, a persona, a character, where they feel they are also 'stars' of the show. Where they feel they are just as important as the players.

A good official should go unnoticed.

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/referee-darren-bond-gestures-as-he-leaves-the-pitch-after-news-photo/1240808707

 

So agree Spud.  It’s a generalisation but I often call them “revenge for being last pick in the playground”.

[Super]

talking about him on talksport and he's getting slated.

Edited August 17, 2022 by Super

[bcfcredandwhite]

We've been on the receiving end of poor refereeing decisions for years - it makes me wonder sometimes if the Referees Association has a collective bet on us getting relegated!!
There are loads of examples - Hull being one the other week, but the game that really sticks in my own mind is that game at Villa a few seasons ago where Weimann had a perfectly good goal disallowed (one of about 7 that season) and Villa were awarded a ridiculous penalty. We should have won that game, but lost because of poor refereeing - LJ received a personal apology from the RA afterwards but it was too late - 3 points lost. With those 3 points we would have made the playoffs that season.

It happens to ALL clubs - but it seems to happen to us more often.

[Harry]

Saying you think of quitting because of some reffing decisions!! Ha ha. What a load of tripe. 
Get a grip Nige. 
 

Ref was spot on last night. Sykes clear red. Freeman clear yellow. Atkinson no pen. 
I’m also in a minority that says the Hull penalty was a pen. 
I’d agree with the Wigan player deserving a red last week but that’s the only one that’s clearly and obviously gone against us. 
All our other penalty shouts this season are the type of ones that every team will also have had a shout for this season. 
 

Many of you are being incredibly one-eyed on this. Imagine if Lee Johnson had said this . You’d all be saying what a little cry baby he is! 

Edited August 17, 2022 by Harry

[Engvall’s Splinter]

7 minutes ago, Harry said:

Saying you think of quitting because of some reffing decisions!! Ha ha. What a load of tripe. 
Get a grip Nige. 
 

Ref was spot on last night. Sykes clear red. Freeman clear yellow. Atkinson no pen. 
I’m also in a minority that says the Hull penalty was a pen. 
I’d agree with the Wigan player deserving a red last week but that’s the only one that’s clearly and obviously gone against us. 
All our other penalty shouts this season are the type of ones that every team will also have had a shout for this season. 
 

Many of you are being incredibly one-eyed on this. Imagine if Lee Johnson had said this . You’d all be saying what a little cry baby he is! 

You lost me here. 

[Citychuds]

23 minutes ago, Harry said:

Saying you think of quitting because of some reffing decisions!! Ha ha. What a load of tripe. 
Get a grip Nige. 
 

Ref was spot on last night. Sykes clear red. Freeman clear yellow. Atkinson no pen. 
I’m also in a minority that says the Hull penalty was a pen. 
I’d agree with the Wigan player deserving a red last week but that’s the only one that’s clearly and obviously gone against us. 
All our other penalty shouts this season are the type of ones that every team will also have had a shout for this season. 
 

Many of you are being incredibly one-eyed on this. Imagine if Lee Johnson had said this . You’d all be saying what a little cry baby he is! 

Interesting post cant help thinking you are fishing here especially as your minority saying it was a penalty at Hull doesnt include PGMOL. 

All that said.... whatever anyones opinion of the previous decisions Nige hasnt helped us here. Can you imagine the ref decisions getting better after his comments?

Edited August 17, 2022 by Citychuds

[Harry]

19 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said:

You lost me here. 

There was clear contact by Naismith on the players shin. This led to the player stumbling. Yes, he went down late, but there was clear contact and it was a foul. 

[Super]

Just now, Harry said:

There was clear contact by Naismith on the players shin. This led to the player stumbling. Yes, he went down late, but there was clear contact and it was a foul. 

Had he gone down straight away yes but he took a couple of steps then went over. It was a clear dive.

[Street red]

With the officials nige is right and not just that it effects his job a job of managing a team and getting results.. A couple of bad decisions effects his team and results and at the end of day he's gets it in the neck from us fans. The officials have been very poor(crap infact) they've been bad but not this bad.

 

[Galley is our king]

22 minutes ago, Citychuds said:

 

All that said.... whatever anyones opinion of the previous decisions Nige hasnt helped us here. Can you imagine the ref decisions getting better after his comments?

What, you think they are now likely to punish us by not giving decisions in our favour?

Do you seriously think they are that unprofessional?

It shouldn't make a damn bit of difference and if it did then Nige is absolutely correct in what he said... 

I support him and his comments, standing up for his players and the club.

[Henry]

@Harry are you still working with the club?

[big dosser]

i think nige is very clever in the way he has done this.  i feel he is correct but i also feel he has put the pressure on all refs making bad decisions against us and will make them think twice. Clever move  mr pearson

[steveybadger]

38 minutes ago, Harry said:

Saying you think of quitting because of some reffing decisions!! Ha ha. What a load of tripe. 
Get a grip Nige. 
 

Ref was spot on last night. Sykes clear red. Freeman clear yellow. Atkinson no pen. 
I’m also in a minority that says the Hull penalty was a pen. 
I’d agree with the Wigan player deserving a red last week but that’s the only one that’s clearly and obviously gone against us. 
All our other penalty shouts this season are the type of ones that every team will also have had a shout for this season. 
 

Many of you are being incredibly one-eyed on this. Imagine if Lee Johnson had said this . You’d all be saying what a little cry baby he is! 

Largely agree with this. 
 

I also find it ironic that Nige talks about a desire to be like rugby and have refs miced up. Rugby also has a culture where by the ref will not tolerate any abuse from players or coaches, and decisions are respected even if they aren’t happy with them. 

[RedEd73]

1 hour ago, Logical-City said:

Can’t disagree with what they are saying tbh. Get VAR in the championship is the solution but then some will still complain about that (for petty reasons like slowing the game down)

Your not going to lose your job over refereeing decisions  

Graham Taylor would disagree!

Edited August 17, 2022 by RedEd73

[Robbored]

Just now, big dosser said:

i think nige is very clever in the way he has done this.  i feel he is correct but i also feel he has put the pressure on all refs making bad decisions against us and will make them think twice. Clever move  mr pearson

Did that ‘tactic’ work for Warnock? He slagged off the officials pretty much after every game he didn’t win and must paid thousands in fines.

[Citychuds]

1 minute ago, Galley is our king said:

What, you think they are now likely to punish us by not giving decisions in our favour?

Do you seriously think they are that unprofessional?

It shouldn't make a damn bit of difference and if it did then Nige is absolutely correct in what he said... 

I support him and his comments, standing up for his players and the club.

I agree with most of his comments the decisions are going against us, though saying he wants to quit is hardly sticking up for his club and players!!

Refs are human beings they arent super human they shouldnt act with emotion but they do, if there is a 50/50 decision do you honestly think someone slagging them on TV in the way he has isnt going to have an effect. Id say they are going to be very conscious of people saying 'you only gave them that decision because of what Pearson said'. This isnt about being unprofessional (despite that being exactly what everyone is saying) its about very high profile comments sticking in peoples heads. I agree with a lot of his comments, but as with comments he made last season about him getting the sack I believe he has made off the cuff emotional comments that arent professional

This is a Bristol City fan forum not a Nigel Pearson fan forum

[Lordofthebling]

Nige got ripped apart by Danny Murphy and Simon Jordan this morning.

Didn't really pick up on the moaning of refs, moreso the fact he said he'd walk away from the club - what message does that give fans, players and the club? 

Jordan was quick to recall the Sears ghost goal and said it 'happens to us all'.

Just as a few messages came in saying its been every game this season, not just one, they switched subject. 

 

[Big C]

probably a bit paranoid but my feeling if Atkinson had been a Luton player and Sykes/Freeman situation had been reversed we would be looking at a penalty conceded and 2 red cards instead of 1

[TheReds]

32 minutes ago, Harry said:

Saying you think of quitting because of some reffing decisions!! Ha ha. What a load of tripe. 
Get a grip Nige. 
 

Ref was spot on last night. Sykes clear red. Freeman clear yellow. Atkinson no pen. 
I’m also in a minority that says the Hull penalty was a pen. 
I’d agree with the Wigan player deserving a red last week but that’s the only one that’s clearly and obviously gone against us. 
All our other penalty shouts this season are the type of ones that every team will also have had a shout for this season. 
 

Many of you are being incredibly one-eyed on this. Imagine if Lee Johnson had said this . You’d all be saying what a little cry baby he is! 

Saying he thought about quitting is about getting this some air time imo, and was said for that reason alone.

Sykes clear red, after he was fouled initially and should have had a free kick. Lost his head and no excuses. Freeman should have had a red for violent conduct too, if retaliation is allowed now for a yellow, then all I hope it is consistent across the board - but we all know it won't be. Last night it looked from the replays that Atkinson was caught, but the camera was Lansdown side so cannot see the whole incident.

Hull - the Refs Association (or whatever it was) has said we should have had 2 pens (I thought one was a definite) and theirs wasn't a pen, add in the fact their players kicking lumps out of us with no cards in the first half. The officiating in that game alone was ridiculous.

All ifs and buts, but we should never had lost at Hull and I am pretty confident we would have beat a 10 man Wigan in those conditions. This is down to the Officials, and not just some fans having a moan at one thing they got wrong over the 4 games we have played.

[Citychuds]

1 minute ago, Lordofthebling said:

Nige got ripped apart by Danny Murphy and Simon Jordan this morning.

Didn't really pick up on the moaning of refs, moreso the fact he said he'd walk away from the club - what message does that give fans, players and the club? 

Jordan was quick to recall the Sears ghost goal and said it 'happens to us all'.

Just as a few messages came in saying its been every game this season, not just one, they switched subject. 

 

In fairness though neither understood why he made the comments. They said he waited until we won so he was on safe ground. So really it was opinion based on little knowledge. 

Jordan did make me laugh by saying it happens to us all etc...  he forgets he called us cheats and him and Warnock banged on about it for ages

[Lew-T]

24 minutes ago, Henry said:

@Harry are you still working with the club?

Wouldn’t have thought so now.

[Bris Red]

13 hours ago, Gazred said:

Already up https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/bristol-city/12674807/nigel-pearson-i-might-walk-away-due-to-officiating-standards

I'm glad he said it after a fine win, it's not sour grapes, we've all seen it.

Fair play Nige. Somebody needed to say it as he quite rightly said. 

[exAtyeoMax]

1 hour ago, Logical-City said:

Can’t disagree with what they are saying tbh. Get VAR in the championship is the solution but then some will still complain about that (for petty reasons like slowing the game down)

Your not going to lose your job over refereeing decisions  

I don't see that as petty!

I only think VAR is a solution if they apply it properly. I think the game is better without it.

You might lose your job over refereeing decisions if at the end of the season you don't get enough points for playoffs/promotion - or you get relegated.

[Numero Uno]

21 minutes ago, Tafkarmlf said:

I've watched the vid a few times today. 

And I'm still unsure of the point. 

Reminds me a bit of John Ward's interview before he went. 

The nuanced stuff was that Nigel admitted he was under pressure in role. 

He's being constrained about what he can say publicly (body language a dead giveaway) 

He's not happy still, presumably the 'modern football' comments tie up with previous stuff about mentality atmosphere and stuff. 

Honestly wouldn't be a shock to see him retire or leave of his own accord this season. 

Fwiw, the referee stuff is a clever way of getting fans obsessing over something else. I don't think it's an issue, and certainly not the hyperbole we see here either. 

 

 

 

Did you listen to the club channel interview? The nuanced view of that was that Nige was delighted with the way we played and enjoyed the performance...................if I sent a team of mine out playing some of the football we did last night I'd be trying to get supporters obsessing over that tbh not referees.

[EstoniaTallinnRed]

13 hours ago, Dr Balls said:

Absolutely. Sykes was badly fouled by Freeman, which the ref completely missed, so Sykes took matters into his own hands with his two-footed lunge at Freeman in return. Then Freeman had a go at Sykes which started the whole melee out on the pitch. Sykes had to go but so did Freeman. And none of this would have happened if the ref had been any good and spotted the original foul on Sykes in the first place.

And if the referee was bad, the linesman in front of the Lansdown was even worse. Saw nothing all game, couldn’t keep up, and only gave one offside decision all game, which was against Martin and was wrong. Missed any number of offsides and infringements in the first half when Luton were attacking the South Stand. Stealing a living and getting to watch games into the bargain!

Perhaps that's the problem, watching the game instead of watching for the correct decision!

[luke_bristol]

30 minutes ago, Lordofthebling said:

Nige got ripped apart by Danny Murphy and Simon Jordan this morning.

Didn't really pick up on the moaning of refs, moreso the fact he said he'd walk away from the club - what message does that give fans, players and the club? 

Jordan was quick to recall the Sears ghost goal and said it 'happens to us all'.

Just as a few messages came in saying its been every game this season, not just one, they switched subject. 

 

Are there two more dislikable people in football than that odious pair? It’s their job to be contrarian and get people riled up, not worth taking them too seriously. It’s actually a shame cos SJ can be quite thoughtful about the game on occasion.

[Barrs Court Red]

2 minutes ago, luke_bristol said:

Are there two more dislikable people in football than that odious pair? It’s their job to be contrarian and get people riled up, not worth taking them too seriously. It’s actually a shame cos SJ can be quite thoughtful about the game on occasion.

And people fall for it time and time again, Piers Morgan had made a great career out of it. 

[cidercity1987]

1 hour ago, Harry said:

There was clear contact by Naismith on the players shin. This led to the player stumbling. Yes, he went down late, but there was clear contact and it was a foul. 

I thought they changed the rules so that there has to be a consequence to touching the player

Falling over 5 steps later is not a consequence, its a dive

[chinapig]

1 hour ago, Harry said:

There was clear contact by Naismith on the players shin. This led to the player stumbling. Yes, he went down late, but there was clear contact and it was a foul. 

Except that clubs were told that this season contact had to be significant and have genuine consequences.

In this case the contact was slight and the consequence was a player taking 2 steps then falling down.

So right from day one a referee reneged on the deal, as they usually do with the changes they announce (think the clampdown on holding in the area that is still never enforced, as per Rob Atkinson being dragged to the ground in the same game).

The subsequent apology proves the point but is no consolation, leads to no accountability and does  not change referees' behaviour.

Conspiracy, no. Continual incompetence, yes.

[East Londoner]

For those on twitter Keith Hackett is worth a follow, not frightened to have an opinion 

 

[Red Army 75]

Pearson was honest and spot on . We are 4 league games in and we have had several decisions go against us. They say it evens itself out. Bollocks does it

[The Swan and Cemetery]

Thought the timing of his comments pretty clearly aligned to an opportunity to make some, in my view entirely valid, points about the standards of officiating, at time where he couldn’t be accused of being a sore loser/using deflection tactics. His “thought about leaving” point seemed to aligned to trying to convince people he thinks it’s important, rather than anything more. 

Does last night’s ref think “I caused that” (the red) or just think he did a great job of dealing with the situation after it happened? For me it was the former, by not dealing with the initial foul on Sykes. Some of it may not the just down to the refs, eg have the FA/FL directed “chill with retaliation, it’s all good”? Appears possible after last two games. 

Overall glad he got his head above the parapet, even if he does get fined etc. 

As an aside, Hull, is the number of steps after being fouled unlimited before falling over? Could Andi W get brushed in the first minute and then fall over in the 90th and get a pen? 

[Kodjias Wrist]

52 minutes ago, Lordofthebling said:

Nige got ripped apart by Danny Murphy and Simon Jordan this morning.

Didn't really pick up on the moaning of refs, moreso the fact he said he'd walk away from the club - what message does that give fans, players and the club? 

Jordan was quick to recall the Sears ghost goal and said it 'happens to us all'.

Just as a few messages came in saying its been every game this season, not just one, they switched subject. 

Simon Jordan has a dislike for the club so this doesn't surprise me and wasn't there a foul or an infringement for the Sears goal? I am sure I remember a flag going up? 

[Super]

6 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Simon Jordan has a dislike for the club so this doesn't surprise me and wasn't there a foul or an infringement for the Sears goal? I am sure I remember a flag going up? 

You could see where he was coming from in fairness.

[Northern Red]

29 minutes ago, luke_bristol said:

Are there two more dislikable people in football than that odious pair? It’s their job to be contrarian and get people riled up, not worth taking them too seriously. It’s actually a shame cos SJ can be quite thoughtful about the game on occasion.

Yep, it's been TalkSport's business model for 20+ years and it seems to work for them. They'd have a presenter arguing that the moon is made of cheese if they thought it would generate calls and interaction.

[Banjo Red]

10 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Simon Jordan has a dislike for the club so this doesn't surprise me and wasn't there a foul or an infringement for the Sears goal? I am sure I remember a flag going up? 

He really is a bell end.

[sh1t_ref_again]

Maybe Nige is fed up of working hard all week to be undone by poor decisions, maybe he is venting and reflects some of the players feelings. It seems to be 1 way traffic, decisions going against rather than for.

Hull, penalties now acknowledged they were wrong

Sunderland, not big decisions, but how often was Skyes being fouled and it ignored

Wigan, player kicks Williams and somehow a yellow, it was either I did not see it or a red

Luton penalty and again yellow for violent conduct

 

[Robbored]

4 minutes ago, Banjo Red said:

He really is a bell end.

He might be a bell end to you but he talks a great deal of sense on Talk Sport.

[Lorenzos Only Goal]

9 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said:

Maybe Nige is fed up of working hard all week to be undone by poor decisions, maybe he is venting and reflects some of the players feelings. It seems to be 1 way traffic, decisions going against rather than for.

Hull, penalties now acknowledged they were wrong

Sunderland, not big decisions, but how often was Skyes being fouled and it ignored

Wigan, player kicks Williams and somehow a yellow, it was either I did not see it or a red

Luton penalty and again yellow for violent conduct

 

To be fair I'd be ******* seething.   

[Robbored]

16 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Simon Jordan has a dislike for the club so this doesn't surprise me and wasn't there a foul or an infringement for the Sears goal? I am sure I remember a flag going up? 

It goes back to the Sears ghost goal at AG that wasn’t given. He and Warnock went ape during and after the game. He’s referred to it on Talk Sport this morning when discussing Nige comments on SSN yesterday.

Murphy reckoned that a Nige is a ‘whinger’…………….

[Kodjias Wrist]

1 minute ago, Robbored said:

It goes back to the Sears ghost goal at AG that wasn’t given. He and Warnock went ape during and after the game. He’s referred to it on Talk Sport this morning when discussing Nige comments on SSN yesterday.

Murphy reckoned that a Nige is a ‘whinger’…………….

Yes I was sat in Williams on the day but was sure a flag went up to signal something that happened beforehand.

[Red-Robbo]

50 minutes ago, luke_bristol said:

 It’s their job to be contrarian and get people riled up, not worth taking them too seriously.

Do you think Otib's Harry is auditioning for a job there?

[BCFCGav]

1 hour ago, Lordofthebling said:

Nige got ripped apart by Danny Murphy and Simon Jordan this morning.

Didn't really pick up on the moaning of refs, moreso the fact he said he'd walk away from the club - what message does that give fans, players and the club? 

Jordan was quick to recall the Sears ghost goal and said it 'happens to us all'.

Just as a few messages came in saying its been every game this season, not just one, they switched subject. 

 

Muppet pundits with no actual knowledge of the matches we've been involved in this season protecting muppet refs with no actual knowledge of how to use their eyes. 

[Northern Red]

16 minutes ago, Robbored said:

It goes back to the Sears ghost goal at AG that wasn’t given. He and Warnock went ape during and after the game. He’s referred to it on Talk Sport this morning when discussing Nige comments on SSN yesterday.

Murphy reckoned that a Nige is a ‘whinger’…………….

No shit...

[Robbored]

12 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Yes I was sat in Williams on the day but was sure a flag went up to signal something that happened beforehand.

I was in the Dolman and Sears clearly scored but the ball hit the bar holding the back of the net down and bounced out. Palace were robbed! 
None of us could believe that goal wasn’t given. Warnock called GJ ‘a cheat’ because GJ refused to allow Palace a walk thru goal.

[exAtyeoMax]

7 minutes ago, Logical-City said:

So VAR is the solution and I would argue it does not slow the game down nearly as much as some people who love to argue for a hobby would have you believe!

I think the suspense of a big VAR call is entertaining and adds to the game especially if you are on the right end of it and you know what else 99% of the time it’s accurate rather than 60 % as Pearson is upset with 

Oh, I don't. 

[cidercity1987]

Just now, Robbored said:

I was in the Dolman and Sears clearly scored but the ball hit the bar holding the back of the net down and bounced out. Palace were robbed! 
None of us could believe that goal wasn’t given. Warnock called GJ ‘a cheat’ because GJ refused to allow Palace a walk thru goal.

Are you a bot?

[sephjnr]

49 minutes ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Simon Jordan has a dislike for the club so this doesn't surprise me and wasn't there a foul or an infringement for the Sears goal? I am sure I remember a flag going up? 

 

29 minutes ago, Robbored said:

It goes back to the Sears ghost goal at AG that wasn’t given. He and Warnock went ape during and after the game. He’s referred to it on Talk Sport this morning when discussing Nige comments on SSN yesterday.

Murphy reckoned that a Nige is a ‘whinger’…………….

 

So a man who complained that his side got cheated by the refs is now pilliorying a man for complaining that his side got cheated by the refs?

gonk-faced tango ******** who bilked Palace is now the Voice of the 'Silent' generation. If you've pissed him off you're doing a good job and you should keep going.

[Bazooka Joe]

1 hour ago, Lordofthebling said:

Nige got ripped apart by Danny Murphy and Simon Jordan this morning.

 

Does Nige look like someone who cares?

 

[Kodjias Wrist]

I used to agree with the whole "It evens itself out". But feel the last few seasons it feels like it hasn't:

For penalties awarded we have been joint bottom in the league for 20/21 and 21/22 seasons. 

For penalties awarded 18/19 and 19/20 we were joint second bottom.

Its worth noting that as well as being bottom for penalties received last season, we were also joint top for Penalties awarded against with fellow strugglers Birmingham. So a really dire seasom for us last season decision wise. 

[Kodjias Wrist]

13 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I was in the Dolman and Sears clearly scored but the ball hit the bar holding the back of the net down and bounced out. Palace were robbed! 
None of us could believe that goal wasn’t given. Warnock called GJ ‘a cheat’ because GJ refused to allow Palace a walk thru goal.

Yes I remember it all clearly. My question was was there not an infringement or foul which, led to the flag going up and the referee momentarily distracted ?

[Super]

Sure SJ said Pearson isn't the best in class that's why he's managing Bristol City 

[chinapig]

23 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

Muppet pundits with no actual knowledge of the matches we've been involved in this season protecting muppet refs with no actual knowledge of how to use their eyes. 

Exactly. I doubt Murphy has seen any our games this season or last. It's not the Premier League so why would he? I doubt he could name 3 of our players if challenged.

The punditocracy is full of ex-players who appear to know little or nothing about the teams they are talking about. Which guarantees you work at Talk Sport.

[Harry]

2 hours ago, Henry said:

@Harry are you still working with the club?

 

1 hour ago, Lew-T said:

Wouldn’t have thought so now.

Nothing has changed. 

I’m still allowed an opinion as a fan. 
Because my opinion may be different from the majority on this, doesn’t mean I can’t have it or other things are jeopardised as a result. 

[Banjo Red]

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

He might be a bell end to you but he talks a great deal of sense on Talk Sport.

Jordan has always hated city.

[Kodjias Wrist]

9 minutes ago, Harry said:

 

Nothing has changed. 

I’m still allowed an opinion as a fan. 
Because my opinion may be different from the majority on this, doesn’t mean I can’t have it or other things are jeopardised as a result. 

Fair point mate. I agree that Sykes was a red and can understand why the officials would reach that decision based on the time and tools they have. 

I also agree with Nige that the reaction warranted a red card, which was a similar scenario that occured at Wigan on the weekend.

The stats however don't lie with regards to penalties at least and it has not evened itself out whatsoever the last couple of seasons.