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If you think about City several times a day, if a win makes your weekend and a defeat ruins it then you are a City fan. 

For most of us we got infected at a young age and it`s incurable. You change virtually everything else in your life as it goes on but NEVER your football team. Whether you used to go but don`t now for whatever reason or still turn up regularly if City are your team you are a fan.

Getting a Man Utd/Liverpool/Chelsea shirt for Christmas every year and talking about `your` team as `us` while only watching on Sky doesn`t.

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If you love your home town team and look for their results / watch/ listen to games whenever life lets you then in my book you’re a true fan ! It doesn’t matter if you can only get to 1 game a season due to geography or finances , you’re still a true fan . If you’re life circumstances permit you to travel home and away week in week out then that’s great for that individual but that doesn’t make the mum/Dad with 4 kids who can’t afford to go , any less of a fan . That’s my definition anyway . 

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I have to admit, after traveling from London for every home game one dire run under Johnson around Christmas time in 2016 was too much for me. Still go away and to the occasional home game but don't really miss it. Did spent £150 making a bespoke (and massive) Union Jack with 'Bristol City FC' for my trip to Sri Lanka to watch the cricket a few years back, quite pleased it was apparently on TV. So no, I'm probably not a 'real' fan, just a bit of an odd one.

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When I lived in Aylesbury I loved. City as much as I do now but didn’t get to the  Gate more than a few times a season. Did Watford and Luton away a few times though. Also did Cambridge, Southend, Gillingham and a few other aways I might not have done if I’d been in Bristol at the time.

Did you ever get to see the Ducks @SecretSam ? They had a framed programme from a cup game at City on the wall in the Buckingham Road bar.. 

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7 hours ago, MrBibs said:

When I lived in Aylesbury I loved. City as much as I do now but didn’t get to the  Gate more than a few times a season. Did Watford and Luton away a few times though. Also did Cambridge, Southend, Gillingham and a few other aways I might not have done if I’d been in Bristol at the time.

Did you ever get to see the Ducks @SecretSam ? They had a framed programme from a cup game at City on the wall in the Buckingham Road bar.. 

I remember it.  We won 1-0 in November 1987 so first or second round. They had been featured on the BBC through their cup run due to their goal celebration where they all got on their knees in a line and waddled across the pitch.

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After starting to watch and support City in 1958, my ups and downs of following this club are probably similar to many others. An Eastender in my teens, moving North with old mans job and following Sheff Wed but still keeping an eye on the club ( No internet then) going to Elland Road when Gary Sprake was sent off, moving back to Bristol at 19, taking missus on 1st date to watch a match, sponsoring supporters club with my business in the 70's, Crackers corner v Pompey to get promotion, watching Norman Hunter debut at Baseball Ground, watching fall and rise of my beloved 1982 club ! ST holder all around the ground till this season when for 1st time in a long time did not renew.............No particular reason, 72 this year, getting weary, medical probs for last year with vertigo. Am I still a fan ?  I'm on OTIB on a match day.......the flame is still and will always be there.

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On 25/08/2022 at 11:24, Red-Robbo said:

Because I share custody of my kids, I very rarely go to away games. I need at least every other weekend during the season for family time. Nothing about such a choice makes you disloyal. The 100% attender has circumstances that permit that. Most of us have reasons why we can't do that.

 

Bonus points for you HE if you identify this reference:

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Worked out your out your reference so claim my bonus points! The reason I travel ? every other week is for family as I meet my cousins and extended family at the match for a beer ?. The only Mugs are those that don’t keep family contact! I also support my elderly parents who still live near Bristol 

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6 minutes ago, hertsexile said:

Worked out your out your reference so claim my bonus points! The reason I travel ? every other week is for family as I meet my cousins and extended family at the match for a beer ?. The only Mugs are those that don’t keep family contact! I also support my elderly parents who still live near Bristol 

 

Good for you. A match day is all the better if it's more than just the game, it's a day out and catch-up time with friends and family. 

I discovered when I was copying that Peep Show picture that you can now buy those Harpenden Harpenden Harpenden mugs. There's a potential present sorted out for someone! 

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On 25/08/2022 at 08:27, Mad Cyril said:

As long as you don't have Man Utd as your "second team" and don't drive a mini bus of Rovers mates to Wembley, you are fine.

This. Goes for anyone with a prem team as their "second" team.

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Plastic armchair fans don’t really care.  They get annoyed if their team loses cos their plastic armchair mates will take the piss out of them on the shit cringy WhatsApp group.  The type of person that if you tell them who you support they ask who your premier league team is. To which I ask them who their league two team is as apparently we need to support a team in each division.  
 

If you can name about 15 players, watch the highlights and care if we win or lose then you are a proper fan.  Attending games isn’t a prerequisite as some people either cannot attend or choose to do something else.  If someone chooses to, for example, watch their child partake in their hobby on a Saturday afternoon instead of watching city then that makes a proper parent and a proper fan 

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You are a City fan.

Its in your heart for good or for bad.

it’s not about how many games you go to, if you have the kit or if you go home and away.

Its inside you and will never leave you despite the times you think why do I bother.

Its the excitement weather you are there, watching on the TV or listening to the radio.

Or going for that walk for the last 5 mins when you just can’t watch or listen because it just might change the result.

Its how it will lift up or down your weekend depending on the result.

Its the highs, the lows the middle table safety. The new away kit, the new signing and it’s about the OTIB community.

its much, much  more than just watching the games - Its your club and you love it.

So don’t feel guilty.

COYR

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17 hours ago, Chairman Mao said:

I have to admit, after traveling from London for every home game one dire run under Johnson around Christmas time in 2016 was too much for me. Still go away and to the occasional home game but don't really miss it. Did spent £150 making a bespoke (and massive) Union Jack with 'Bristol City FC' for my trip to Sri Lanka to watch the cricket a few years back, quite pleased it was apparently on TV. So no, I'm probably not a 'real' fan, just a bit of an odd one.

LJ's tenure will have worn down the enthusiasm of many fans. So sad after so many had their enthusiasm rekindled under Cotts.

It wasn't bad all the time under LJ but all too often it was horrendous, particularly at home games, and there were very extended periods where the tedious football, lack of shots/goals and excitement, plus poor results at AG, left me slumped silently in my seat questioning if I really wanted to be there anymore. 

The first time ever I've felt like that, and I've witnessed it all since 1970.

I am though re-enthused by Pearson, the quality and character of the players, both young and more experienced, the fact that City go out to score goals (and very often succeed) and that there is excitement back in our play, and in the stands.

I hope you, and others whose fervour was crushed by LJ, will be back at AG regularly sometime. Not out of loyalty or a sense of duty, but because you genuinely feel this team and manager are worth supporting, and that there's a very high likelihood you'll enjoy the experience.

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On 26/08/2022 at 12:26, ChippenhamRed said:

Interesting thread. No one should ever be accused of not being a “real fan” when they put things that matter more, such as family, ahead of football.

One thing I will say though. Just as an example, I remember a few seasons ago we were 1-0 down to Preston, then conceded a second sometime around 70 minutes. I was in the Dolman and a some people left once the second went in. With 20 minutes left to play!

To my mind, anyone who withdraws their support when the team are struggling and still has a feasible chance of getting something from the game, doesn’t understand what it means to be a supporter, and doesn’t really understand football and it’s capacity to surprise. That sort of behaviour says a lot more about their support than people who can’t be there for every game for an endless number of perfectly good reasons.

Thing is, City winning makes them feel good, and they get a buzz from that, and they love feeling that buzz, we all do; whereas City not winning makes them feel bad and they get the opposite of a "buzz" and they can't "take" feeling like that so they're not going to sit and stew in that negative emotional state.

People vary in how they respond to winning and losing. Some can "take" City doing poorly and rationalise it, put it in some perspective ("the Championship is an unequal division, City don't have Parachute Payments, wages determine outcomes" etc) while some others can only cope by getting away from it, and sometimes by lashing out (booing, fighting with or getting at 'happy clappers,' slaughtering the team or manager on social media etc).

For some people, City are there for them, to make them feel good, not the other way round. They're not there to "support" eleven men payed thousands a week, they are there for the well paid young men to give them their weekend 'buzz.' They have though at least "supported" by paying to attend.

While many others go and will stay with the team even when they struggle. They can handle disappointment better. But the money's the same whichever group you are in. And the club needs that money.

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I buy a membership to make me go to as many games possible with the savings you get from it, often go on my own as my brother can't afford to but don't class myself as a bigger or better fan than him I just choose to spend my spare cash on watching City cause it's what gives me more enjoyment than other things we both enjoy.

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It’s all about OTIB, unless you can spend at least 8 hours of your day use up all of your emojis, remember what casual posters say on every thread… have been banned at least once or had to take an enforced break and come back with a different user name…you don’t deserve to be classed as a real fan.

Who needs to justify if they are a real fan or not? Seriously none of us getting out of here alive does it really matter who is a real fan or not whatever that means.

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6 minutes ago, MC RISK77 said:

It’s all about OTIB, unless you can spend at least 8 hours of your day use up all of your emojis, remember what casual posters say on every thread… have been banned at least once or had to take an enforced break and come back with a different user name…you don’t deserve to be classed as a real fan.

Who needs to justify if they are a real fan or not? Seriously none of us getting out of here alive does it really matter who is a real fan or not whatever that means.

For real

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On 25/08/2022 at 02:05, SecretSam said:

I live in Aylesbury, a 20 mile drive from Wycombe. But last night, I decided not to go to the game. 

Now, I love City, and a local away game is truly a rare thing, but...I have two 17-year olds (Twins) and they are with me, and soon they will be hopefully heading out into the wild world. I see very little of them now, so evenings and particularly the evening meal are absolutely precious.

I chose the kids over City.

Does that make me the world's worst fan? I'm feeling so guilty (not least because we won) (and we wore our truly lovely away kit)

You are a bad person. Own it!

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On 25/08/2022 at 08:05, SecretSam said:

I chose the kids over City.

Does that make me the world's worst fan? I'm feeling so guilty (not least because we won) (and we wore our truly lovely away kit)

NO! Circumstances occur in life that change priorities. Even though your family won your attention, presumably asap you checked the result. That shows you're a fan.

Fifty years ago I was one of a group of 14 who were always on the Open End at AG and went to most away games. Out of that group I think one still attends most home games.

I've now lived in P'boro' longer than I did in Bristol, but I'm still a City fan, just not a regular supporter.

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Straying slightly from topic, was wondering who regularly travels the furthest to watch home games? I know there was someone who popped up from Cornwall and a few who come from London/Taunton etc but who goes to at least 50% of home games from furthest away.?

Only asking as guessing vast majority live within 5miles of AG and suggest their loyalty and bank balances would be tested if they had 100mile plus round trips to make to see home games.

 

Its not just about bank balances though, travel distances/age/priority list changes/health issues all come into play. 

So defining "real fan" is impossible really, as we are all different and have different circumstances which over the years themselves change.

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33 minutes ago, gl2 said:

Straying slightly from topic, was wondering who regularly travels the furthest to watch home games? I know there was someone who popped up from Cornwall and a few who come from London/Taunton etc but who goes to at least 50% of home games from furthest away.?

Only asking as guessing vast majority live within 5miles of AG and suggest their loyalty and bank balances would be tested if they had 100mile plus round trips to make to see home games.

 

Its not just about bank balances though, travel distances/age/priority list changes/health issues all come into play. 

So defining "real fan" is impossible really, as we are all different and have different circumstances which over the years themselves change.

Back in GJ play off years I went to around 40 games in a season and only missed a couple of mid-week home games with a round trip of 350 miles.

Early 2000s I went to all but 2 home games over a 3 year period with the same round trip.

My 'favourite' trip was when I was at uni in Bournemouth and went to Carlisle for the 3-1 win with John Ruddy making his debut. Bournemouth to Carlisle was a hell of a trip...

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