Blackpool away match thread

[Andy082005]

Where as I get Vyner always has a mistake in him, let’s not let Andy King off here. The bloke is a waste of time 

overall a good point, one we would have taken earlier. Need to cut these errors out though 

[Clevedon Red]

Let’s keep positive we’d have all taken a point against a team who came back from 3 down last week. It’s a point gained and we move on to Huddersfield.

[steviestevieneville]

Well we threw that away. Gifted them every goal . People will blame vyner but he never should of been passed to. Passing to a marked player who was last man. ******* ridiculous 

[bcfc01]

Just now, Super said:

Good point considering how bad we were defensively.

It is a decent point.

But that defensive display was a shocker and a backward step imo.

[Numero Uno]

What can you say? World beaters attacking and panel beaters defending

[Fordy62]

Just now, BigTone said:

Regrettably so does Naismith

Agreed. Although he’s far from just a defender. 

[chinapig]

Just now, Red Exile said:

Completely given 2 points away by failing to retain possession at key moments. Happens time after time. We can play some lovely stuff. Pearson really needs to sort this nonsense out. 

I'm baffled as to how to fix it. It doesn't seem to matter who the personnel are it's still groundhog day.

[MarcusX]

Just now, Andy082005 said:

Where as I get Vyner always has a mistake in him, let’s not let Andy King off here. The bloke is a waste of time 

overall a good point, one we would have taken earlier. Need to cut these errors out though 

Not sure you can blame Vyner, shit pass to him. Outside of the boot what the ****?

[italian dave]

2 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Gary Owers said it was Naismith and King

What does Gary Owers know about the forum's whipping boy....

[Super]

Just now, Fordy62 said:

Agreed. Although he’s far from just a defender. 

What else is he?

[exAtyeoMax]

1 minute ago, Lordofthebling said:

And then we get Downsy's mug

**** that! Luckily I'm listening to the radio

[BCFC Rich]

Such a strange game, I felt really confident we were going to win (even when behind) right up until we went in front. 

[BCFCGav]

Our defence seem like they always have this in them sadly. Gotta fix it, no more bastard excuses.

Good point, 6 unbeaten. COYR.

[Fordy62]

1 minute ago, Andy082005 said:

Where as I get Vyner always has a mistake in him, let’s not let Andy King off here. The bloke is a waste of time 

overall a good point, one we would have taken earlier. Need to cut these errors out though 

Fair balanced Andy. Are you ill?  

[cellist]

Not just Vyner's fault - he's not innocent, but he was put in trouble by King and Naismith.

Don't deserve to win games at this level when you are weak at set pieces and give away goals like that as regularly as we do. It will always hamper our progress. Mistakes happen but it runs deeper with us - there are one or two mentalities that aren't strong enough

Would have taken a point before the game though. Away from home, decent side, where we haven't won for ages. Let's hope the manner of it doesn't kill our momentum.

[ProfitInMyPocket]

Vyner made a mistake but Naismith shouldn't be passing it to him there, I know he did well for the third goal but I'm not excusing him for their equaliser.

They're pressing us to get back into it and can see Vyner isn't in any space to receive the ball there, he's absolutely killed him needlessly playing out there.

King and James did well to keep the ball and move it away from their press on our left side and Naismith can just hoof it clear, like when he plays out sometimes but it happened twice today where hes been caught out with silly passes.

Fair play to Blackpool they're a good team who have their own way of playing but we should be coming back with 3 points there.

[Lordofthebling]

It was just ####### chaos at the back all game.

[The Bard]

Just now, Andy082005 said:

Where as I get Vyner always has a mistake in him, let’s not let Andy King off here. The bloke is a waste of time 

overall a good point, one we would have taken earlier. Need to cut these errors out though 

That was down to Naismith.  King basically decided not to hammer it into his own goal in the hope it was going wide.

Not that you'll listen King's a perfect scapegoat.

[Fordy62]

Just now, Super said:

What else is he?

A playmaker from the back, obviously… just to confirm we’re talking about Naismith here. 

[Mr Hankey]

I mean the ball back to Vyner is absolutely horrific & Naismith should get as much stick, but **** me Zac, grow some bollocks, take the red and drag the man down you fanny.

[Spike]

Naismith the best player on the pitch all day long and then makes that stupid pass at a stupid time and costs us the match. 

Listening to the commentator say how much we've improved, does he have shit in his eyes?! The exact same issue as last season, we can't control the game when leading by a single goal, panic and concede. 

The only difference is that we've got some great attacking options but if Massengo goes we'll have a slow midfield and a defence that can't remain composed when under pressure. They can **** right off today, let themselves down massively. 

[Numero Uno]

Atkinson today was probably his poorest game since he joined. Vyner should have done better on the goal BUT Naismith Wtf was that pass?

Edited August 27, 2022 by Numero Uno

[exAtyeoMax]

Just now, italian dave said:

What does Gary Owers know about the forum's whipping boy....

exactly. He's the easy/lazy option

[EstoniaTallinnRed]

1 minute ago, AirlieBeachRed said:

King doesn't impress me.

Should be nowhere near the first team, just let him coach the youths until his contract is over. Threw the game away, suppose to be an experienced player.

[Chrizzler]

Just now, 2015 said:

I cannot believe fans still defend him

You’re blaming the wrong player this time. 

[Curr Avon]

An awful way to finish, yes. But there was so much to admire about City's play today. We can't stop playing with 20 minutes to go and need to concentrate. Still on the up.

[Wanderingred]

Another entertaining game that Bristol City have been part of! We look so sexy going forwards. Conceding last minute goals though, that’s just who we were. It’s our identity, and there’s plenty more of it to come this season.

[mozo]

Bringing Andy King on a mistake? I would have like Wilson. Weimann wasn't even having a good game.

[sh1t_ref_again]

3 minutes ago, 2015 said:

I cannot believe fans still defend him

I cannot believe some fans that can't see passed anything else that happens in the build up in their rush to blame scapegoat Vyner

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

Anyone blaming Zak for the equaliser either wasn’t watching the same game as me or wasn’t watching the game at all.  The goal was caused by a slack pass that put the Blackpool player in.  Vyner didn’t stand a chance, except to haul him down and get a red card.  I thought it was Naismith who passed, but the commentator said something about King.  Certainly NOT Vyner’s fault.

[Bris Red]

4 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Mostly a good performance, a lot to be positive about.

My thoughts exactly, disappointing obviously in the manner of the draw but a point away is never ever bad. Onwards and upwards.

[WarksRobin]

Individual errors in defence cost us again

[Rossi the Robin]

That wasn’t Vyners fault athough I would have preferred someone else to have received that hospital pass

[Super]

Just now, Fordy62 said:

A playmaker from the back, obviously… just to confirm we’re talking about Naismith here. 

I want my CB to defend firstly. Especially when holding a narrow lead.

[exAtyeoMax]

1 minute ago, Mr Hankey said:

I mean the ball back to Vyner is absolutely horrific & Naismith should get as much stick, but **** me Zac, grow some bollocks, take the red and drag the man down you fanny.

yes just imagine the abuse he'd get if he did. 

[swanker]

3 minutes ago, AirlieBeachRed said:

King doesn't impress me.

Hasn’t done a lot since he’s been here to be honest. 
Pretty unimpressive, I think he’d struggle to get in the Rovers team. 

[Major Isewater]

That was a thoroughly entertaining game of football.

A point away from home is always good even if we gifted them theirs. That will perhaps fire them up for the next match. 
Semenyo and Conway are frightening for me let alone opposition teams ! 
Well done to all.

[Dan Robin]

FT 

Shame to lose two points in that familiar way, but I would have taken a draw before the match, and even more during it, given the problems they gave to our defence.

Our main weakness remains clear, but I was quite impressed by the team's mental strenght, shown by making two comebacks .  

 

 

[Red Exile]

1 minute ago, chinapig said:

I'm baffled as to how to fix it. It doesn't seem to matter who the personnel are it's still groundhog day.

Yep - almost incomprehensible. You'd surely sit them down, pause the game at different points and ask all of at least Wliiams, Massengo, DaSilva, Naismith, Atkinson and King 'at that moment what on earth was going through your head'...'why did you go backwards, try to play a worldie??? What were you thinking of?' I appreciate they are under pressure but...

[Roadrunner]

Over to you Nigel, the window closes next week.

[spudski]

FFS...Kings had a nightmare. What the hell was he thinking. Bad pass and didn't even attempt to hook off line. We would have sat 2nd in league without his massive errors.

[bexhill reds]

2 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said:

Should be nowhere near the first team, just let him coach the youths until his contract is over. Threw the game away, suppose to be an experienced player.

I suspect he was brought on for height given the expectation was balls lumped into the box. 

[Curr Avon]

1 minute ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

Anyone blaming Zak for the equaliser either wasn’t watching the same game as me or wasn’t watching the game at all.  The goal was caused by a slack pass that put the Blackpool player in.  Vyner didn’t stand a chance, except to haul him down and get a red card.  I thought it was Naismith who passed, but the commentator said something about King.  Certainly NOT Vyner’s fault.

It was played behind Zac with poor communication from the passer. Nothing he could do.

[old_eastender]

1 minute ago, mozo said:

Bringing Andy King on a mistake? I would have like Wilson. Weimann wasn't even having a good game.

Yes it was and agree Wilson should have come on, but i would have taken Wells off and put AW forward.

[Mr Hankey]

Just now, exAtyeoMax said:

yes just imagine the abuse he'd get if he did. 

Absolute zero if we would win the game. Lets not gloss over the fact it was an absolute shit show at the back of that defence all game long…..the one constant in that back line over the past 3 years has been Vyner & its never improved.

[22A]

8 hours ago, RUSSEL85 said:

I do think we will edge it but if we come back with a point, that is satisfactory and keep a decent run going.

We nearly did edge it, but came back with a point.

[AshtonRobin21]

4 minutes ago, marcofisher said:

It clearly wasn't, no centre half is catching that quick winger after such a hospital pass.

The pass wasn't great at all, I'm certainly not denying that. Multiple mistakes in the build up. 

But how many times does Vyner get exposed. Outmuscled, and should have brought the attacker down outside the box. 

[ProfitInMyPocket]

I don't understand the anger for King, it was Naismith who played the pass to Vyner?

[Selred]

Undefeated in 6. Joint top scorers in the league. Yes frustrating to throw the lead away, but lots to be positive about. Huddersfield mid week, let’s get a result against them and continue progressing.

[Bristol Oil Services]

3 minutes ago, bris red said:

Onwards and upwards.

And a bit of sideways now and then

[Dullmoan Tone]

2 minutes ago, swanker said:

Hasn’t done a lot since he’s been here to be honest. 
Pretty unimpressive, I think he’d struggle to get in the Rovers team. 

He did needlessly get sent off last season - so let’s not be unfair

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

1 minute ago, Mr Hankey said:

Absolute zero if we would win the game. Lets not gloss over the fact it was an absolute shit show at the back of that defence all game long…..the one constant in that back line over the past 3 years has been Vyner & its never improved.

Sorry mate, but you’re talking garbage.  To blame Vyner for not pulling the player down, while not even mentioning the villain of the piece, is utterly absurd.  

[Bas's perfect hattrick]

3 minutes ago, spudski said:

FFS...Kings had a nightmare. What the hell was he thinking. Bad pass and didn't even attempt to hook off line. We would have sat 2nd in league without his massive errors.

King seems like a waste of a wage at the moment. What does he bring? Normally injured, not great going forward nor at the back. 

Weird signing in the first place tbf. Smacks of nepotism

Edited August 27, 2022 by Bas's perfect hattrick

[exAtyeoMax]

2 minutes ago, Mr Hankey said:

Absolute zero if we would win the game. Lets not gloss over the fact it was an absolute shit show at the back of that defence all game long…..the one constant in that back line over the past 3 years has been Vyner & its never improved.

what about the resulting free kick? And if they'd scored from that?

[Red Army 75]

Just now, Selred said:

Undefeated in 6. Joint top scorers in the league. Yes frustrating to throw the lead away, but lots to be positive about. Huddersfield mid week, let’s get a result against them and continue progressing.

Exactly. Awful goal to concede. But we are making progress as a football club 

[Andy082005]

3 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

Fair balanced Andy. Are you ill?  

We just seem to be playing with a bit more of an identity these days, and there are signs of improvement what is all I’ve ever wanted to see 

Our game management still concerns me. I get Luton and Cardiff was a job well done, but that third goal today shows we still haven’t learnt from past mistakes 

Roll on Wednesday. Will be a tough game 

[BUTOR]

Cardiff were wasteful but let’s be honest could have scored a couple with the space they had around our box. Game just confirms where we are, top 6 attack bottom half defence.  

[robin_unreliant]

2 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

That was a thoroughly entertaining game of football.

A point away from home is always good even if we gifted them theirs. That will perhaps fire them up for the next match. 
Semenyo and Conway are frightening for me let alone opposition teams ! 
Well done to all.

Well said. I'm pleased we have a team that can play exciting attacking football again. I would've taken a point pre-game. 

[Red Exile]

Just now, Selred said:

Undefeated in 6. Joint top scorers in the league. Yes frustrating to throw the lead away, but lots to be positive about. Huddersfield mid week, let’s get a result against them and continue progressing.

Agreed on the positives...one of the better away performances of recent times. Much to praise. When we play our game we look very good, Conway and Semenyo scored cracking goals. Hope rekindled...currently eyeing up travel to a few away fixtures! Cut out the unforced errors and this could be a very good season.

[Midred]

3 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

The pass wasn't great at all, I'm certainly not denying that. Multiple mistakes in the build up. 

But how many times does Vyner get exposed. Outmuscled, and should have brought the attacker down outside the box. 

I can never understand this, why should Vyner have to be sent off to save someone else?

[Red Army 75]

Pearson said midweek we are light in midfield. 

[red colin]

Just now, Super said:

I want my CB to defend firstly. Especially when holding a narrow lead.

Naismith is a quality player but I have been uncomfortable with him as last man and central defender .for me it would be far better sitting him in front of back 3 and put klose in middle,  naismith has cost at least 2 goals so far being too casual.also not quick enough if a ball is lifted over him.

.

[MarcusX]

7 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

Our defence seem like they always have this in them sadly. Gotta fix it, no more bastard excuses.

Good point, 6 unbeaten. COYR.

What’s frustrating is it wasn’t even a defensive mistake as such! We were in possesion and made a stupid pass.

[Mr Hankey]

1 minute ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

Sorry mate, but you’re talking garbage.  To blame Vyner for not pulling the player down, while not even mentioning the villain of the piece, is utterly absurd.  

“Not even mentioning the villain of the piece” - read my post again, because i did, so thats garbage mate.

[Bristol Oil Services]

10 minutes ago, AirlieBeachRed said:

King doesn't impress me.

Much? A Shania Twain song springs to mind here ....

[Eddie Notgetinya]

It Naismith played the ball then that’s two BAD errors in 4 league games 

[old_eastender]

4 minutes ago, spudski said:

FFS...Kings had a nightmare. What the hell was he thinking. Bad pass and didn't even attempt to hook off line. We would have sat 2nd in league without his massive errors.

Really stupid play by King, then Naismith, those 2 have to take the blame, not Vyner who was given hospital pass.

[petehinton]

2 minutes ago, Selred said:

Undefeated in 6. Joint top scorers in the league. Yes frustrating to throw the lead away, but lots to be positive about. Huddersfield mid week, let’s get a result against them and continue progressing.

This this and this. 
 

Goals were conceding are frustrating, but it’s far, far harder to score than it is to not concede. The amount we score/chances we create is incredible, and that’s without Semenyo starting games yet. 

[The Dolman Pragmatist]

I’m not scapegoating Naismith, but how many times has he either put us in trouble or got away with it by the skin of his teeth so far?  He’s clearly a very good footballer and does some exceptional things but he has taken some outrageous risks at the back and, as I said after one of the last two home games, he needs to cut out the costly mistakes.

[Mr Hankey]

2 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

what about the resulting free kick? And if they'd scored from that?

What if my mum had a cock? If’s & but’s mate

Just now, Eddie Notgetinya said:

It Naismith played the ball then that’s two BAD errors in 4 league games 

Whilst also creating 2 goals in 2 games…