Curr Avon Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62775410 But will he beat Liz Truss to the sack at Watford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 No surprise there. Gerrard, like Rodgers were successful in Scotland but neither could cope when the consistent quality of the English Premier league. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Robbored said: No surprise there. Gerrard, like Rodgers were successful in Scotland but neither could cope when the consistent quality of the English Premier league. Celtic won 8 out of the 9 trophies on offer during his tenure at Rangers. Yes, we won the league, but that was mainly due to Celtic’s implosion during the Covid fan free season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, Robbored said: No surprise there. Gerrard, like Rodgers were successful in Scotland but neither could cope when the consistent quality of the English Premier league. I think you're doing Rodgers a disservice. Consecutive 5th place finishes, plus an FA Cup for an 'unfashionable' team has been a fantastic return. They've struggled this season due to minimal signings and the disruption caused by Fofana's move to Chelsea. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: I think you're doing Rodgers a disservice. Consecutive 5th place finishes, plus an FA Cup for an 'unfashionable' team has been a fantastic return. They've struggled this season due to minimal signings and the disruption caused by Fofana's move to Chelsea. Losing Schmeichel was a big blow as well I've thought, not convinced by Ward his replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ronnie Sinclair said: Losing Schmeichel was a big blow as well I've thought, not convinced by Ward his replacement Absolutely, it wasn't very nice, although it was Nice. And on another tangent, isn't Joe Bryan there? Oui, or non? Edited October 20, 2022 by Curr Avon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: I think you're doing Rodgers a disservice. Consecutive 5th place finishes, plus an FA Cup for an 'unfashionable' team has been a fantastic return. They've struggled this season due to minimal signings and the disruption caused by Fofana's move to Chelsea. That type of thing happens fairly regularly to PL clubs that are outside of the top 6 or 7;in the country. It’s no excuse . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Michael Beale was obviously the brains then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, David Brent said: Michael Beale was obviously the brains then. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eah of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 What a dam shame. Was doing a great job getting these self entitled, arrogant, living off past glories, billy big rollicks, bell-end fans back to reality, and back to the Championship. Let's hope the next manager finishes the job, wanchors. 4 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) Dare we dream of Aston Villa coming back down and having to answer some very difficult q's about their actions and methods of achieving compliance in the 3 year period to 2019?? I'm sure the EFL and all of the others in the League that year, including several who have been punished in recent times will not have forgotten. Strategic ambiguity by the EFL? Not as if they ever publicly declared them passing it. Mind you they don't as a rule. Nor did they come out and declare that the two sides had unlike Leicester, QPR and Bournemouth reached a settlement, albeit this was under the old system. I did read that the EFL were furious that they managed to get up and escape scrutiny on their terms. Think Martin Samuel suggested it in an article or 2 in 2020. He also implied that some clubs would have revenge in mind. Wouldn't be surprised if the EFL would habe been furious as the method of payment, I had a major issue with. Loans Receivable for the ground, ' Blah blah' 'Offsetting? Rah Rah'! Well, iirc Receivables need paying within 12 months max, don't recall that this ever was and certainly not within 12 months. Pretty sure it's a current asset. I would also question the commercial viability of a 5 year lease only at iirc £2.6-2.8m per season. The ratio is fine but just 5 years on a £56.7m transaction is dodgy! Certainly in a P&S context. Lastly, Other Operating Income. Not suggesting that the HS2 compensation revenue was illegitimate but a) Without proper clarity, something in this category appeared 3 years on the bounce and b) Was it categorised correctly? Edited October 21, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Dont like Aston Villa, nothing against Gerrard. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 No more Gerrard for Liverpool, post Klopp, talk....phew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Hes 5, 1 in the betting to be next pm, got to he worth a fiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Sir Geoff said: No more Gerrard for Liverpool, post Klopp, talk....phew Gerald to replace NP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Critchley leaving Blackpool for Villa backroom job hasn't worked out well. He has gone as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 10 hours ago, Robbored said: That type of thing happens fairly regularly to PL clubs that are outside of the top 6 or 7;in the country. It’s no excuse . Fairly regularly? Non "top 5" sides who have won the FA cup in the past 20 years: 3 (Leicester, Cardiff, Wigan). It actually stretches back longer, but 20 years was enough to prove my point. He also got Liverpool to 2nd place, and did very well at Swansea. I agree with you the Scottish league is poor, but Rogers has done a good job in the Premier League. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 9 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Dare we dream of Aston Villa coming back down and having to answer some very difficult q's about their actions and methods of achieving compliance in the 3 year period to 2019?? I'm sure the EFL and all of the others in the League that year, including several who have been punished in recent times will not have forgotten. Strategic ambiguity by the EFL? Not as if they ever publicly declared them passing it. Mind you they don't as a rule. Nor did they come out and declare that the two sides had unlike Leicester, QPR and Bournemouth reached a settlement, albeit this was under the old system. I did read that the EFL were furious that they managed to get up and escape scrutiny on their terms. Think Martin Samuel suggested it in an article or 2 in 2020. He also implied that some clubs would have revenge in mind. Wouldn't be surprised if the EFL would habe been furious as the method of payment, I had a major issue with. Loans Receivable for the ground, ' Blah blah' 'Offsetting? Rah Rah'! Well, iirc Receivables need paying within 12 months max, don't recall that this ever was and certainly not within 12 months. Pretty sure it's a current asset. I would also question the commercial viability of a 5 year lease only at iirc £2.6-2.8m per season. The ratio is fine but just 5 years on a £56.7m transaction is dodgy! Certainly in a P&S context. Lastly, Other Operating Income. Not suggesting that the HS2 compensation revenue was illegitimate but a) Without proper clarity, something in this category appeared 3 years on the bounce and b) Was it categorised correctly? Did they ever pay us for Kodjia? or was the "you got Baker on a discount to settle it" excuse used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 25 minutes ago, sephjnr said: Did they ever pay us for Kodjia? or was the "you got Baker on a discount to settle it" excuse used? I think that was more of a cashflow and timing thing but surely when new owners came and cleared a load of debt, we would have been sorted along with everyone else. They narrowly avoided admin, indeed some of their fans say that they were close to bankruptcy itself in summer 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted October 21, 2022 Admin Share Posted October 21, 2022 7 hours ago, Garland-sweden said: Dont like Aston Villa, nothing against Gerrard. I don't either which makes the fact I am currently dating a lifelong Villa fan. She's already dragged me along to the Everton, Man City and Chelsea games It's been mildly amusing watching the absolute shit show Stevie G has created Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: Gerald to replace NP Or vice versa? (On a serious note I think certain lower to middle and higher Championship clubs could certainly do worse! Long may he reign here though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephjnr Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I think that was more of a cashflow and timing thing but surely when new owners came and cleared a load of debt, we would have been sorted along with everyone else. They narrowly avoided admin, indeed some of their fans say that they were close to bankruptcy itself in summer 2018. It never got confirmed by anyone involved, then got memory-holed when they went spend-crazy again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prankerd Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 12 hours ago, Robbored said: No surprise there. Gerrard, like Rodgers were successful in Scotland but neither could cope when the consistent quality of the English Premier league. Rodgers won an fa cup and until they got hit with ffp and had to balance the books this season have been consistently in the top 6, dont you remember he managed Liverpool and swansea before this? What are you smoking :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Don't feed it lads. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Apparently travelled back to Birmingham on the team coach Bet that was fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted October 21, 2022 Author Share Posted October 21, 2022 He's not taken the news well... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Curr Avon said: He's not taken the news well... Hahaha ! That squeaking noise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) I mean obviously a fake. Amusing thought all the same... Edited October 21, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I mean obviously a fake. Amusing thought all the same... It’s definitely fake - He’d never manage a West Midlands Club I think he’s actually trying to complete his own version of the 92 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 When he got the villa job. He turned up late. And got in a spat with virgin trains on twitter, which didnt end well. But he did point out if you cant get from preston to brum on time. How on earth will richard branson get to the moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 10 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Or vice versa? (On a serious note I think certain lower to middle and higher Championship clubs could certainly do worse! Long may he reign here though). Yes that is an interesting thought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 17 hours ago, phantom said: I don't either which makes the fact I am currently dating a lifelong Villa fan. She's already dragged me along to the Everton, Man City and Chelsea games It's been mildly amusing watching the absolute shit show Stevie G has created Oh, sure you do anything for your women. Next season you can go to the gate and watch your teams. Can not Imagine we play in the PL next season but hope still there. COYR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks 1969 Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 18 hours ago, phantom said: I don't either which makes the fact I am currently dating a lifelong Villa fan. She's already dragged me along to the Everton, Man City and Chelsea games It's been mildly amusing watching the absolute shit show Stevie G has created You football slag …. :laugh: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted October 22, 2022 Admin Share Posted October 22, 2022 16 hours ago, 1960maaan said: 16 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: I mean obviously a fake. Amusing thought all the same... I'm going to have some fun with this lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted October 22, 2022 Author Share Posted October 22, 2022 More coverage.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 21/10/2022 at 11:05, phantom said: I don't either which makes the fact I am currently dating a lifelong Villa fan. She's already dragged me along to the Everton, Man City and Chelsea games It's been mildly amusing watching the absolute shit show Stevie G has created If she's paying for your ticket that's ok! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Emery in the process of being appointed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Emery a huge step up from Gerrard. Looks a good appointment to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 On another note Exeter have appointed Gary Caldwell Surprised / Strange one - his track record / CV as a manager & in coaching is not good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 26 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Emery a huge step up from Gerrard. Looks a good appointment to me Oooh he is awful, but I like him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, Curr Avon said: Oooh he is awful, but I like him. He can be a bit of a Dick at times... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 On 20/10/2022 at 23:13, Robbored said: No surprise there. Gerrard, like Rodgers were successful in Scotland but neither could cope when the consistent quality of the English Premier league. Your hatred of Rogers is rather bizarre. He's done a good job at Leicester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 hours ago, And Its Smith said: Emery a huge step up from Gerrard. Looks a good appointment to me Really? Last time I checked Villa are not in Europe. He did terrible at Arsenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Really? Last time I checked Villa are not in Europe. He did terrible at Arsenal. He finished 5th which was hardly terrible at the time. He’s generally got a very good record. Irrespective of how much you rate him, surely you agree he’s a step up from Gerrard who has failed hugely at Villa after being backed financially Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Your hatred of Rogers is rather bizarre. He's done a good job at Leicester. His love of Danny Wilson is even more bizarre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 6 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said: Your hatred of Rogers is rather bizarre. He's done a good job at Leicester. Hatred? ……….. Spoiler 6 hours ago, RedLionLad said: His love of Danny Wilson is even more bizarre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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