Popular Post The Constant Rabbit Posted October 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2022 In the form of his career, Zac had his best ever game. Marshalled an incredibly young and inexperienced defence against much more seasoned opponents. Fantastic game - well played Zac 81 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sheltons Army Posted October 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2022 All three Zak, George and Pring Excellent Tanner and Pring couldn’t have done much more to ‘take their chance’ 28 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin_unreliant Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Thought the defence looked more solid than usual despite the changes. I really don't get why NP doesn't play Pring more often. 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redinthehead Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Brilliant game from him and Pring was immense. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 They all did well but for balance, they weren’t challenged physically or aerially which is their weakness. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, Redinthehead said: Brilliant game from him and Pring was immense. Fantastic, lung bursting run at the end from Pring. Shame Williams ruined it by taking the ball outside on his right foot when played in to cross. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Yep brilliant from the back 3, so refreshing to see Pring get a yellow near the end to stop there attack. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 17 minutes ago, The Constant Rabbit said: In the form of his career, Zac had his best ever game. Marshalled an incredibly young and inexperienced defence against much more seasoned opponents. Fantastic game - well played Zac Exactly right. Well done Zac, really suited him having some of the more inexperienced players to guide through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy082005 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 19 minutes ago, The Constant Rabbit said: In the form of his career, Zac had his best ever game. Marshalled an incredibly young and inexperienced defence against much more seasoned opponents. Fantastic game - well played Zac Been saying it for weeks, has got a raw deal this season. Other defenders have performed far worse then him and haven’t got 10% of the stick 12 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: All three Zak, George and Pring Excellent Tanner and Pring couldn’t have done much more to ‘take their chance’ Agreed. Is it harsh of me to say that I wouldn't be too bothered if Kalas for one didn't come back and we could use these more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveybadger Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, tin said: They all did well but for balance, they weren’t challenged physically or aerially which is their weakness. Yes, realise it was partly forced but it also worked well as a horse for courses option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 minute ago, RedM said: Agreed. Is it harsh of me to say that I wouldn't be too bothered if Kalas for one didn't come back and we could use these more. Worked well against a footballing side like Swansea but perhaps it wouldn't against a big side. Zak was great today but tends not to engage enough when marking bigger, more aggressive players imo. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Back 3 and Max all very good indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 minute ago, RedM said: Agreed. Is it harsh of me to say that I wouldn't be too bothered if Kalas for one didn't come back and we could use these more. If we are ever going to build something here we need to make some big decisions Its whether fans accept that younger / inexperienced players will blow hot and cold and results and team performances will remain inconsistent ,in exchange for the longer view / greater good Richard Gould made it clear at FF that the days of us chucking money around willy nilly are the past My favourite thing said there was NP explaining Mangers under pressure or intent on keeping their job make (understandably) selections and recruitment to do that , whereas basically he’s not over bothered if he gets replaced so can make decisions based on the longer term benefit 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, chinapig said: Worked well against a footballing side like Swansea but perhaps it wouldn't against a big side. Zak was great today but tends not to engage enough when marking bigger, more aggressive players imo. Think this is a fair point (probably !) but neither duck a physical and showed they are fighting for a place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 47 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: All three Zak, George and Pring Excellent Tanner and Pring couldn’t have done much more to ‘take their chance’ Spot on. All three were incredible today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Thought Tanner actually looked brighter going forward from RCB than he ever has done at RB/RWB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, The Constant Rabbit said: In the form of his career, Zac had his best ever game. Marshalled an incredibly young and inexperienced defence against much more seasoned opponents. Fantastic game - well played Zac I said before the game when the lineups were announced that I fancied Vyner to play centrally & thought he’d be the vocal organiser. I watched him closely first half & he didn’t stop talking to Pring & Tanner, he really stepped up to the plate. I actually thought that was the most organised I’ve seen us at the back, against a team that will try & pull you about. Has been having a good season so far, but today stepped up another level. COYR 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 21 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Thought Tanner actually looked brighter going forward from RCB than he ever has done at RB/RWB. There were spells when Tanner/Sykes and Pring/Dasilva seemed to keep switching positions. I was a bit worried they’d get it wrong and leave Vyner very exposed, but it seemed to work. Tanner certainly got more decent crosses in first 15 minutes than Sykes manages in 90 some games. I’d like to see him given a run at RWB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 All played well today. Some great blocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 2 hours ago, The Constant Rabbit said: In the form of his career, Zac had his best ever game. Marshalled an incredibly young and inexperienced defence against much more seasoned opponents. Fantastic game - well played Zac He was so vocal today. Always pointing, always shouting, always in command. I didn’t have him pegged as a leader, but he absolutely was today. Be interesting to see if he does that when Naismith, Kalas etc are back but superb today. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyD68 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Brilliant again today! I’ve noticed throughout the season he’s been one of the more vocal players in the side. If he's still at the club in a couple years time and carries on performing and improving the way he is I could actually see him captaining the side when the older crop of players move on. Thought both Tanner and Pring were excellent as well. Considering the form Swansea have been on and the changes we had to make I see it as a point gained rather than two dropped. Well done lads! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: He was so vocal today. Always pointing, always shouting, always in command. I didn’t have him pegged as a leader, but he absolutely was today. Be interesting to see if he does that when Naismith, Kalas etc are back but superb today. He had a lot of responsibility today and didn`t let us down, I`m one of those who doesn`t `get` the grief he gets on here sometimes, he`s been no worse than others and better in many games. OK, he`s never going to be the main man in defence for Burnley or Norwich but he`ll do for me. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Vyner has really grown as a player this season. He was excellent today and seemed to revel in being the most experienced player in the back line. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Agree with posts above; well done Zac and the other lads. Swansea were without Piroe however; who has caused us problems before. We would have faced more of a threat had he not been serving a ban. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Northern Red said: Thought Tanner actually looked brighter going forward from RCB than he ever has done at RB/RWB. Me too, at RB / RWB he is quite in-adventurous. 1 hour ago, Lanterne Rouge said: He had a lot of responsibility today and didn`t let us down, I`m one of those who doesn`t `get` the grief he gets on here sometimes, he`s been no worse than others and better in many games. OK, he`s never going to be the main man in defence for Burnley or Norwich but he`ll do for me. Said at 14:00 his big a game it was for him. By 14:30 it took on more importance. This is a player who is always available, tries his hardest. He deserves a bit more credit generally. He’s getting it in spades tonight. Well done Zak. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsham Ed Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I was vey concerned before kickoff with line up for our defence today, but, wow, they were all outstanding, so proud of the effort they all put in today. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I think, aside from everything else, Vyner deserves immense credit for his attitude and character. At the end of last season and going into the summer, his career here looked to be over and - whilst we don't know for sure - it's very easy to believe that he is only still at the club because we couldn't secure/afford a replacement and has only had a chance at all due to injuries to other players. He's really seized the moment and turned himself from someone with a foot out the door to a virtual (perhaps actual - can't quite rememeber?) ever-present. Realistically Kalas' salary and injury history makes it difficult to plan on him next season. Vyner is starting to show that he's not just someone who can fill in for the moment but could actually be central to planning ahead without Kalas. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 2 hours ago, italian dave said: There were spells when Tanner/Sykes and Pring/Dasilva seemed to keep switching positions. I was a bit worried they’d get it wrong and leave Vyner very exposed, but it seemed to work. Tanner certainly got more decent crosses in first 15 minutes than Sykes manages in 90 some games. I’d like to see him given a run at RWB Totally agree, not been sure previously that Tanner could play RWB, convinced he can now. 11 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: I think, aside from everything else, Vyner deserves immense credit for his attitude and character. At the end of last season and going into the summer, his career here looked to be over and - whilst we don't know for sure - it's very easy to believe that he is only still at the club because we couldn't secure/afford a replacement and has only had a chance at all due to injuries to other players. He's really seized the moment and turned himself from someone with a foot out the door to a virtual (perhaps actual - can't quite rememeber?) ever-present. Realistically Kalas' salary and injury history makes it difficult to plan on him next season. Vyner is starting to show that he's not just someone who can fill in for the moment but could actually be central to planning ahead without Kalas. Spot on & I know I’ve said this before, but he has an incredible availability record. Didn’t miss a single game in the pandemic season, the only CB available for every one so far this. As a relatively cheap (in wages terms), versatile squad option he’s making a very strong case to be kept around. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 They all really stepped up today- enjoyed their performances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 4 hours ago, chinapig said: Worked well against a footballing side like Swansea but perhaps it wouldn't against a big side. Zak was great today but tends not to engage enough when marking bigger, more aggressive players imo. We all know Zak is prone to the odd lapse in concentration but I would say, overall, he has been our most reliable defender this season. Outstanding today. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Solid and reliable again today. We know he can play football and that role seemed to suit him today. That central 3 will not be first choice against a Millwall type team, but today against a passing , possession based team I thought all 3 were excellent. Sykes was a little better than he has been which helped the right hand side, Pring slotted into the Atkinson role seamlessly which meant the balance was there. Biggest praise I can give Vyner and the rest, they didn't look any worse than any set up we have had this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Numero Uno said: We all know Zak is prone to the odd lapse in concentration but I would say, overall, he has been our most reliable defender this season. Outstanding today. I agree, my point was a concern about how he might handle a player like McBurnie in the absence of someone like Klose or Kalas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aa_bcfc Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Absolutely first class game by Zac today. Well done mate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: Me too, at RB / RWB he is quite in-adventurous. And at RCB! After 40 seconds he was at the byline putting in a cross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 29 minutes ago, chinapig said: I agree, my point was a concern about how he might handle a player like McBurnie in the absence of someone like Klose or Kalas. Oh yeah, he cant play central of the three every week against all comers but he’s had a great game today. Given the stick he gets from a few on here it’s only fair to give credit where it’s due. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonRobin21 Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Thought he looked very comfortable in the central role. He was also the 'experienced head' at the back today, and I think he stepped up. Credit to all 3 of the lads today, that's one of the most composed performances we have seen in defence so far this season. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 5 hours ago, LondonBristolian said: I think, aside from everything else, Vyner deserves immense credit for his attitude and character. At the end of last season and going into the summer, his career here looked to be over and - whilst we don't know for sure - it's very easy to believe that he is only still at the club because we couldn't secure/afford a replacement and has only had a chance at all due to injuries to other players. He's really seized the moment and turned himself from someone with a foot out the door to a virtual (perhaps actual - can't quite rememeber?) ever-present. Realistically Kalas' salary and injury history makes it difficult to plan on him next season. Vyner is starting to show that he's not just someone who can fill in for the moment but could actually be central to planning ahead without Kalas. Too many football fans believe that if an Academy product isn't at the top of his game by 20 years, they'll never be able to make it. I keep repeating on here that Gordon Parr, one of our best defenders in the last seven decades, didn't become a regular fixture until he was around 25/26 years of age. Having seen him and been impressed with him, as an 18 year old in the Under 23's, nothing would give me more pleasure than to see Zak be a rock in central defender for years to come. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I thought Vyner was excellent. Continually voicing his opinion and organising Pring & Tanner. All three were solid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 33 minutes ago, Swede said: I thought Vyner was excellent. Continually voicing his opinion and organising Pring & Tanner. All three were solid. They were, and I'd also like to give a shout out to Matty James who was quietly efficient and stopping attacks through the middle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, cidered abroad said: Too many football fans believe that if an Academy product isn't at the top of his game by 20 years, they'll never be able to make it. I keep repeating on here that Gordon Parr, one of our best defenders in the last seven decades, didn't become a regular fixture until he was around 25/26 years of age. Having seen him and been impressed with him, as an 18 year old in the Under 23's, nothing would give me more pleasure than to see Zak be a rock in central defender for years to come. I a sure he will be, especially if he can become even half as 'hard' as Gordon Parr was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 I'm glad he's finally showing a little consistency, today he was superb but I can't help but think if everyone was fit that I wouldn't rather give Tanner a run at RCB as he looked solid and played like him and Sykes had been a unit for years. The way Tanner and Sykes could inter change effortlessly was really beneficial to creating on the right hand side. Either way, if Vyner can continue these kinds of performances when Naismith and Co are fit then we may actually see some solid defending. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyCity Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Could Vyner’s responsibility to organise others be the reason why he had such a good game himself? ie: by ensuring those around him didn’t miss anything, he didn’t miss anything himself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 7 hours ago, SydneyCity said: Could Vyner’s responsibility to organise others be the reason why he had such a good game himself? ie: by ensuring those around him didn’t miss anything, he didn’t miss anything himself. This, and if you're in the middle, you're going to be offering cover for the two other centre halves rather than a usually absent right wing back. Even if Zak doesn't get another contract offer here, he's doing enough to get a decent one somewhere else - say top six side League one upward. What I like about him is that he doesn't shirk responsibility, and does try to move the team forward when he can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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