Sleepy1968 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 6 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: We all knew it was on the cards but congrats to Semenyo for sure. Hope he makes his mark- a competitive but not impossible group to do so. Thought was decent Saturday, a sceptic may say he was looking to sharpen up a little before the Ghana squad finalised however I think he should come back better. Worth noting too, that he has had not one but two medium term injuries in the last 12-18 months. They've got 8 strikers on the list - does anyone have any idea how close he might be to making a matchday squad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 7 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said: I'm in self imposed exile from the World Cup, but what am I going to do if Antonie gets game time? I'm going to cross my own picket line that's what. F*****g hypocrite. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNasty Filth Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 6 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: To remind everyone, we receive US$10,000 every day that he is out there with the squad. Presumably he travels tomorrow as their first game is next Thursday! The earliest he can return (assuming no major injury) is 3 December after their final group game on 2 December. That's 19 days, so US$190,000 in the bank for us. Every stage Ghana advance will add US$40,000 - 50,000 to that amount, depending on the precise day of each game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, And Its Smith said: Slaven Bilic picked him out for praise after the game on Saturday and he wasn’t on the pitch that long. Says a lot. Good luck Antoine 55 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Funny isn’t it how some fans have written him off, yet opposition managers see it different! Yep nice praise for Antoine. Here's to a good WC for him. “The number 11 who came on, in a couple of moves in the same action he pressed three or four of our players. Left-back, centre-back, right centre-back - boff, boff, boff; I almost clapped, I love it! I have to say! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Good luck Antoine - go smash it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Isn’t his first game against Portugal @Olé? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Enjoy the moments 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 On 14/11/2022 at 19:22, Sleepy1968 said: They've got 8 strikers on the list - does anyone have any idea how close he might be to making a matchday squad? No, but his heat map should be interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 Friendly v Switzerland on Thursday. No idea if it's being streamed anywhere. Will be interesting to see if he gets minutes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 8 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: Friendly v Switzerland on Thursday. No idea if it's being streamed anywhere. Will be interesting to see if he gets minutes. 10am UK time btw. So early doors for those interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciderarmy23 Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 I'll be attending Korea v Ghana so hopefully he will play some part! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Starts on the bench for the friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 There is a stream, in French on Hesgoal... http://www.hesgoal.com/news/Switzerland_vs_Ghana.html Might take a look if he comes on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 @Sheltons Armythis is that black sock I mentioned in an earlier post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 AS just came on and scored 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: AS just came on and scored That'll upset a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: AS just came on and scored Presumably he's now worth £70 million? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 FT 2-0 win for Ghana. Semenyo subbed on at 62 minutes as part of a quadruple Ghana subs package. Scored on 74 minutes as per @Northern Red's post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Composed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Northern Red said: I do not believe that crowd noise. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Looked like the Swiss defence had been practising at the HPC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Northern Red said: That'll upset a few. Because they are idiots. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said: Looked like the Swiss defence had been practising at the HPC. Wait until you see the first goal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) Oh just seen- Semenyo!! Switzerland usually quite a decent side too, looked a fairly strong XI. Edited November 17, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Semenyo actually set up the initial chance for his goal too, before the ball sat up lovely for that left foot volley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Not sure how to feel about it tbh. I thought he'd downed tools a little bit for City over the last month leading up to the World Cup, I can hardly blame him as he may never get this chance again but at the same time I think a player should be professional still and giving 100% for their club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 The crowd loved it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 31 minutes ago, 2015 said: Not sure how to feel about it tbh. I thought he'd downed tools a little bit for City over the last month leading up to the World Cup, I can hardly blame him as he may never get this chance again but at the same time I think a player should be professional still and giving 100% for their club. I still think fans are too ready to jump to “downed tools” theories, in the same way as they use “lost the dressing room” theory for managers. Players are inconsistent in the main, plus the dynamic of fitness, means this can exaggerate performance levels both ways. He’s come back from a broken shin / shin splints, into a team struggling for consistency in itself, whilst starting some, sub in others. Not conducive to consistent individual performances is it? 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: I still think fans are too ready to jump to “downed tools” theories, in the same way as they use “lost the dressing room” theory for managers. Players are inconsistent in the main, plus the dynamic of fitness, means this can exaggerate performance levels both ways. He’s come back from a broken shin / shin splints, into a team struggling for consistency in itself, whilst starting some, sub in others. Not conducive to consistent individual performances is it? Yep, two medium term injuries in fact in a period of 12 months. Hardly conducive as you say. Also see DaSilva, missed half a season in 2019-20 and I can't remember when but sure he had a medium term injury at some point last couple of years, probably suffered as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Yep, two medium term injuries in fact in a period of 12 months. Hardly conducive as you say. Also see DaSilva, missed half a season in 2019-20 and I can't remember when but sure he had a medium term injury at some point last couple of years, probably suffered as a result. Both shin too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: Looked like the Swiss defence had been practising at the HPC. Well, Timm Klose is Swiss......................................... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 57 minutes ago, Harry said: Semenyo actually set up the initial chance for his goal too, before the ball sat up lovely for that left foot volley. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Hopefully a goal helps with settling into the squad (if he’s not already) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said: Presumably he's now worth £70 million? & probably a darn sight more than some Glasgow club is reporting to be tabling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 If you haven't already, you need to read this. https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/cnd513yy5g3o 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 I see it's everywhere now, but I've copied it and I'm bloomin' well going to paste it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelRobartes Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Oh just seen- Semenyo!! Switzerland usually quite a decent side too, looked a fairly strong XI. Definitely a strong side out. I think there'll be a couple of changes for the first group match but that was no B team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said: If you haven't already, you need to read this. https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/cnd513yy5g3o I think each matchday thread on here should commence with "Game don start!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: I think each matchday thread on here should commence with "Game don start!" De one we dem de read well well Edited November 17, 2022 by CiderJar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: I think each matchday thread on here should commence with "Game don start!" And when Antoine scores with a shot - `Straight in de net` 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Who knew that there was a version of BBC News in Pidgin English? https://www.bbc.com/pidgin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd73 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, CiderJar said: Who knew that there was a version of BBC News in Pidgin English? https://www.bbc.com/pidgin Translation by Joey Barton? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, CiderJar said: Who knew that there was a version of BBC News in Pidgin English? https://www.bbc.com/pidgin I certainly didn`t but will be an avid reader from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, RedEd73 said: Translation by Joey Barton? That's jail-bird not Pidgin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, CiderJar said: Who knew that there was a version of BBC News in Pidgin English? https://www.bbc.com/pidgin When I first saw that report I wondered if it was a pisstake website, so I investigated and, much like you, came across the fact that this Pidgin English site is 100% genuine!! Unreal. It’s actually quite funny until you realise that this was part of an expansion of the bbc worldwide service in 2017 that cost nearly £300 million!! Madness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Harry said: When I first saw that report I wondered if it was a pisstake website, so I investigated and, much like you, came across the fact that this Pidgin English site is 100% genuine!! Unreal. It’s actually quite funny until you realise that this was part of an expansion of the bbc worldwide service in 2017 that cost nearly £300 million!! Madness! The BBC produced Pidgin output well before 2017. What happened in 2017, was the Foreign Office stopped paying for World Service so the BBC was forced to take on an extra £300m of costs. The output didn't expand, in fact several language services were actually cut as a result. If you wonder why the Foreign Office paid for British radio to make broadcasts to a worldwide audience, it's for the same reason the US government still do fund Voice of America: soft influence, access to real news. Incidentally, BBC.Com pages carry adverts outside the UK, so they are cost neutral. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Massive Congratulations to Antoine for his first International goal! It will be the 1st of many, of which i am certain! I will be rooting for the Black Stars, and hoping they can get out of their group...........Good Luck Antoine!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinMan's left peg Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Davefevs said: I still think fans are too ready to jump to “downed tools” theories, in the same way as they use “lost the dressing room” theory for managers. Players are inconsistent in the main, plus the dynamic of fitness, means this can exaggerate performance levels both ways. He’s come back from a broken shin / shin splints, into a team struggling for consistency in itself, whilst starting some, sub in others. Not conducive to consistent individual performances is it? I also don’t get the “downed tools” logic. The claim is that Semenyo played deliberately worse and therefore risked not being picked for the Ghana so that he would then be well rested in order to play for Ghana?? Makes no sense. Surely he’d be doing everything thing he could to hit some form in time for the biggest moment in his career 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 29 minutes ago, maxjak said: Massive Congratulations to Antoine for his first International goal! It will be the 1st of many, of which i am certain! I will be rooting for the Black Stars, and hoping they can get out of their group...........Good Luck Antoine!! Well said. It should be a proud moment for us City fans seeing one of our players score an international goal. I know he hasn’t been at his best lately but I don’t think for a minute he’s not been trying, you’re as likely to get injured not trying as you are going for it. Lets hope for any more Ghana and City goals and if not the latter then a big wedge of money because of the former. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) Hands up who else didn't know that Chris Hughton was part of Ghana's coaching team. Edited November 17, 2022 by ExiledAjax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said: Hands up who else didn't know that Chris Hughton was part of Ghana's coaching team. Sporting director or something like that I think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 3 hours ago, Charlie BCFC said: Sporting director or something like that I think? Technical Adviser is his title I think. He was there for the Africa Cup of Nations. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Remember reading on here that Hughton was at the last home game of last season against Hull and left as soon as Antoine was subbed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) I can understand why fans want Semenyo to do well. But has anyone stopped and looked at Ghana and it's stance on the LBGT community and its restrictions, prison sentences etc? Now I'm not advocating anything. Personally I couldn't give a toss. Well I could if it was all inclusive...as in everyone. But I'd be interested if for example Ghana had been given the WC. And how people would view it. Any different to Quatar? Maybe...but still. I find it amusing that some people so anti Qatar...which I am...are so supportive of Ghana, just because of Antoine. Just check out Ghana's laws etc. So selective... Edited November 17, 2022 by spudski 3 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champfan45 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 15 hours ago, CiderJar said: Who knew that there was a version of BBC News in Pidgin English? https://www.bbc.com/pidgin I wonder how one would go about editing these articles. Is there a Pidgin auto correct available? It would be great fun to turn it on surreptitiously if one of your mates leaves their phone lying around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 18 hours ago, Harry said: Semenyo actually set up the initial chance for his goal too, before the ball sat up lovely for that left foot volley. Do they play with heavier balls there? down here that would have gone right into de kfc 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 18 hours ago, 2015 said: Not sure how to feel about it tbh. I thought he'd downed tools a little bit for City over the last month leading up to the World Cup, I can hardly blame him as he may never get this chance again but at the same time I think a player should be professional still and giving 100% for their club. The pundits on MOTD made the point that the timing of the WC has made it really hard for players that might be going. It's understandable that it would be in the back of their minds, and from what we can see across the Prem, he certainly wouldn't be the only one. Mind you at $40,000 a day you could say he has down the club a big financial favour by ensuring he has stayed fit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady bunch Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 22 hours ago, ExiledAjax said: I do not believe that crowd noise. That fan noise is as bad as the tinned laughing on 1970’s sitcoms …. Probably 10% real fans, 15% fans hired by organizers and they rest of the noise generated by computer and pumped out on the speakers… what a farce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderJar Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Champfan45 said: I wonder how one would go about editing these articles. Is there a Pidgin auto correct available? It would be great fun to turn it on surreptitiously if one of your mates leaves their phone lying around However... https://techcabal.com/2019/12/16/how-two-nigerian-ai-engineers-built-the-worlds-first-pidgin-to-english-translation-model/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 12 hours ago, spudski said: I can understand why fans want Semenyo to do well. But has anyone stopped and looked at Ghana and it's stance on the LBGT community and its restrictions, prison sentences etc? Now I'm not advocating anything. Personally I couldn't give a toss. Well I could if it was all inclusive...as in everyone. But I'd be interested if for example Ghana had been given the WC. And how people would view it. Any different to Quatar? Maybe...but still. I find it amusing that some people so anti Qatar...which I am...are so supportive of Ghana, just because of Antoine. Just check out Ghana's laws etc. So selective... Qatar is wealthy. Ghana is poor. Chance of Ghana being able to afford to stage a World Cup is zero. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Qatar is wealthy. Ghana is poor. Chance of Ghana being able to afford to stage a World Cup is zero. Yes I'm aware of that...but it still doesn't take away from the facts regarding Ghana's social and human rights issues. If Ghana wasn't a poor nation and did have the World Cup, the spotlight would be on the country. Issues would be raised. The fact it's not, means the issues are ignored. These facts will give you a picture of what it's like in Ghana. https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/africa/west-and-central-africa/ghana/report-ghana/ Edited November 18, 2022 by spudski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 minute ago, spudski said: Yes I'm aware of that...but it still doesn't take away from the facts regarding Ghana's social and human rights issues. If Ghana wasn't a poor nation and did have the World Cup, the spotlight would be on the country. Issues would be raised. The fact it's not, means the issues are ignored. Lots of countries have poor human rights for gay citizens, corruption and the death penalty. What put Qatar so much into the spotlight was that they bought the tournament by open bribery and corruption and - having none of the stadia or hotels necessary to stage it - imported tens of thousands of poor Asians to build that infrastructure in conditions that led to thousands of deaths. If the World Cup is going to be limited to countries that have European standards of human rights, then it will only ever be played in Europe. And Australia hopefully. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Lots of countries have poor human rights for gay citizens, corruption and the death penalty. What put Qatar so much into the spotlight was that they bought the tournament by open bribery and corruption and - having none of the stadia or hotels necessary to stage it - imported tens of thousands of poor Asians to build that infrastructure in conditions that led to thousands of deaths. If the World Cup is going to be limited to countries that have European standards of human rights, then it will only ever be played in Europe. And Australia hopefully. I'm well aware of that. However...the main focus seems to be aimed at the human rights in Qatar...not the issues you've mentioned. Hence mentioning and bringing to light Ghana's poor human rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, spudski said: I'm well aware of that. However...the main focus seems to be aimed at the human rights in Qatar...not the issues you've mentioned. Hence mentioning and bringing to light Ghana's poor human rights. I think they're quite average for Africa. In terms of stability, Ghana is a fairly stable state (and has been since the early 70s) with a functioning democracy. Endemic corruption in built, but you'd be hard-pressed to find a country in Africa that hasn't got that, and recent years have shown that the UK cannot point the finger when it comes to ministers lining their pockets and rewarding cronies. Over 'gay rights' you have to accept that in much of the developing world societal norms are not what they are in the West. It's a long march when it comes to African countries accepting homosexuality, although sub-Saharan Africa has one beacon in South Africa where LGBTQ rights are now comprehensively protected. But South Africa's much richer and more developed than most of her northern neighbours, and education and the media runs along Western lines. It has a different culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 39 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: I think they're quite average for Africa. In terms of stability, Ghana is a fairly stable state (and has been since the early 70s) with a functioning democracy. Endemic corruption in built, but you'd be hard-pressed to find a country in Africa that hasn't got that, and recent years have shown that the UK cannot point the finger when it comes to ministers lining their pockets and rewarding cronies. Over 'gay rights' you have to accept that in much of the developing world societal norms are not what they are in the West. It's a long march when it comes to African countries accepting homosexuality, although sub-Saharan Africa has one beacon in South Africa where LGBTQ rights are now comprehensively protected. But South Africa's much richer and more developed than most of her northern neighbours, and education and the media runs along Western lines. It has a different culture. I well aware of what you are saying. However... I think you've completely missed my point. It's not just the LBGT rights...it's the human rights across everyone. Female genital mutilation still goes on, huge numbers of rapes. Witch camps and death to woman they think practice witchcraft FFS Showing forms of affection in public regardless of sex. Death sentences... Etc, etc. To name just a few. To say ' it's a different culture'...is true. To say it's average and just accept it isn't imo. We have Ghanaians living in this country. We are told to accept them and their culture. I'm happy to accept anyone...but I'll be damned if Im going to accept someone who believes in that idealogy, just because it's their culture. This is where it's so hypocritical. As a nation we are told to be accepting of everyone's religion, sex, culture and beliefs, and live side by side in the same country happily...yet in the same token, we have cultures living here that don't believe in any of that. How is it meant to work? The Club continually back the rainbow brigade...and want Inclusivity across all peoples. How does it work, if for example, one of our players who comes from a different culture, like Ghana, says he won't be part of the Clubs backing of rights...as it goes against his religious beliefs and culture? Can you see the conflict of interests? In one breath saying be accepting of all cultures and beliefs...but in another breath, saying you have to support something that goes against your beliefs and culture. It's ridiculous when you think about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, spudski said: I well aware of what you are saying. However... I think you've completely missed my point. It's not just the LBGT rights...it's the human rights across everyone. Female genital mutilation still goes on, huge numbers of rapes. Witch camps and death to woman they think practice witchcraft FFS Showing forms of affection in public regardless of sex. Death sentences... Etc, etc. To name just a few. To say ' it's a different culture'...is true. To say it's average and just accept it isn't imo. We have Ghanaians living in this country. We are told to accept them and their culture. I'm happy to accept anyone...but I'll be damned if Im going to accept someone who believes in that idealogy, just because it's their culture. This is where it's so hypocritical. As a nation we are told to be accepting of everyone's religion, sex, culture and beliefs, and live side by side in the same country happily...yet in the same token, we have cultures living here that don't believe in any of that. How is it meant to work? The Club continually back the rainbow brigade...and want Inclusivity across all peoples. How does it work, if for example, one of our players who comes from a different culture, like Ghana, says he won't be part of the Clubs backing of rights...as it goes against his religious beliefs and culture? Can you see the conflict of interests? In one breath saying be accepting of all cultures and beliefs...but in another breath, saying you have to support something that goes against your beliefs and culture. It's ridiculous when you think about it. Not supporting any of that, but you're not talking about a nation hosting the World Cup. IF Ghana ever put a bid in, I'm sure these negative factors would get the attention they deserve. However, Qatar is the HOST, which, I'm sure you'll agree, is why they are coming particularly in for criticism at this present time. (And that's before we get into Qatar's role as a state supporter of terrorist movements in the Near East) Qatar wanted to put itself under the international spotlight by buying this contest. Well, it did, but its attempt at sports-washing also brought into focus the more repellent side of its governance. Ghana's certainly not a perfect society, but it's better than many of its neighbours. As this map shows, the incidence of FGM is among the lowest in West Africa. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Not supporting any of that, but you're not talking about a nation hosting the World Cup. IF Ghana ever put a bid in, I'm sure these negative factors would get the attention they deserve. However, Qatar is the HOST, which, I'm sure you'll agree, is why they are coming particularly in for criticism at this present time. (And that's before we get into Qatar's role as a state supporter of terrorist movements in the Near East) Qatar wanted to put itself under the international spotlight by buying this contest. Well, it did, but its attempt at sports-washing also brought into focus the more repellent side of its governance. Ghana's certainly not a perfect society, but it's better than many of its neighbours. As this map shows, the incidence of FGM is among the lowest in West Africa. I agree...I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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old_eastender Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Getting back to football instead of politics. Hope Semenyo does really well for Ghana, then maybe a Prem club will come in with a £15m bid for him in January. If we have to lose somebody to be in shape for not failing FFP next season, then much rather it was Semenyo than Conway or Scott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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