Popular Post BCFCGav Posted November 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2022 Forgive me for a negative post. I was really upset by Tuesday, the Carabao is wide open this year with many big teams drawing one another. Good opportunity for a club of our calibre to try and do something great. But we fielded a poor side and played awful, and for me it was Pearson’s last straw. We all know about his awful win rate. We all know about our seemingly ‘unsolvable’ defensive frailties. We all know about his ‘bombing out’ of players off one bad game (Pring, Massengo, so unnecessary). Looks like we’re sticking with him… so what if we lose to Rotherham? Is that the last straw? Because his replacement then has 3 days to prepare for his first match rather than 3 weeks. He should go now. Financial restrictions due to Ashton’s negligence mean our squad is thin, but is it one point above relegation in quality? No it’s not. So the problem for me lies with the manager. Howpfully many of you will have seen my many posts on this forum and know I’m not a doom merchant or a knee-jerk nay sayer. I just truly believe Pearson’s removal is now in the best interest of the club. COYR. 1 30 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 No I don't think he will be gone or should if we lose. If we play like today we have every chance of winning. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alex_BCFC Posted November 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2022 Who exactly can you bring in who will get anything better out of these players with no money available? I think Pearson is doing ok overall and actually we haven’t really had the rub of the green lately. Outplayed SU and Watford yet got 1 point. 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFree Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 How good will we feel when we beat Rotherham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 minute ago, TomF said: What if we win? Don’t go complicating things…… 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Forgive me for a negative post. I was really upset by Tuesday, the Carabao is wide open this year with many big teams drawing one another. Good opportunity for a club of our calibre to try and do something great. But we fielded a poor side and played awful, and for me it was Pearson’s last straw. We all know about his awful win rate. We all know about our seemingly ‘unsolvable’ defensive frailties. We all know about his ‘bombing out’ of players off one bad game (Pring, Massengo, so unnecessary). Looks like we’re sticking with him… so what if we lose to Rotherham? Is that the last straw? Because his replacement then has 3 days to prepare for his first match rather than 3 weeks. He should go now. Financial restrictions due to Ashton’s negligence mean our squad is thin, but is it one point above relegation in quality? No it’s not. So the problem for me lies with the manager. Howpfully many of you will have seen my many posts on this forum and know I’m not a doom merchant or a knee-jerk nay sayer. I just truly believe Pearson’s removal is now in the best interest of the club. COYR. Our defensive frailties - we've actually only conceded 7 in 7 league games. And we are playing a right back an attacking midfielder and a left wing back as our three centre backs. Pring was dropped due to injury plus 3 occasions where at the end of a game he lost the ball resulting in an opposition goal rather than being smart and keeping possession. He's played in the last half a dozen league games. Massengo will not sign a new contract. Who should he come in for? Scott? Best player we have. Williams? Today showed what a tenacious midfielder he is and has seemingly got over his injury/fitness issues. James? He was excellent today and with the other two to carry his mobility, his calmness and passing are much improved. The way we played against Swansea, Sheff Utd and Watford deserved a win in all three games and I don't think anyone can really argue the performances deserved that. That would have given us and extra 7 points and we'd be sat either 6th or 7th going into Xmas. Our next 3 games are against 16th, 17th and 21st. Certainly winnable, although West From might be a different prospect. 4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, TomF said: What if we win? Melt down on here. From some.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 We might draw. That would get confusing. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 2 wins from 14. We did play well today. We played well against Sheff U as well. 1 point to show for both games. If I’m wrong, and 1 win in 7 is the level of these players I’ll hold my hands up. I just think they’re better that that. 4 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Melt down on here. From some.. As for this… I adore this club with every inch of my being. We win and I’m elated for days. It’s a rare feeling at the moment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 minute ago, italian dave said: We might draw. That would get confusing. This is getting silly now!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, TomF said: What if we win? Don’t go complicating things with your bizarre optimism, you’ll be saying England might win the World Cup next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, italian dave said: We might draw. That would get confusing. Could even get a pena.... no, sorry, too far. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, italian dave said: We might draw. That would get confusing. I think today's draw has confused a few tbf 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: 2 wins from 14. We did play well today. We played well against Sheff U as well. 1 point to show for both games. If I’m wrong, and 1 win in 7 is the level of these players I’ll hold my hands up. I just think they’re better that that. As for this… I adore this club with every inch of my being. We win and I’m elated for days. It’s a rare feeling at the moment! The Swansea result was fair, Sheffield United we were robbed, and today we were also the better team and had the better chances. 2 points from 9 is not great at home, but those performances against some of the less good teams in this division would have resulted in wins. The bigger concern is our inconsistency and poor displays against teams like Birmingham and Reading. However after the World Cup break we have a run of games that are eminently winnable and if we can’t get results from those then we should start to worry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 If we play like we did today, we will beat Rotherham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 51 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: Forgive me for a negative post. I was really upset by Tuesday, the Carabao is wide open this year with many big teams drawing one another. Good opportunity for a club of our calibre to try and do something great. But we fielded a poor side and played awful, and for me it was Pearson’s last straw. We all know about his awful win rate. We all know about our seemingly ‘unsolvable’ defensive frailties. We all know about his ‘bombing out’ of players off one bad game (Pring, Massengo, so unnecessary). Looks like we’re sticking with him… so what if we lose to Rotherham? Is that the last straw? Because his replacement then has 3 days to prepare for his first match rather than 3 weeks. He should go now. Financial restrictions due to Ashton’s negligence mean our squad is thin, but is it one point above relegation in quality? No it’s not. So the problem for me lies with the manager. Howpfully many of you will have seen my many posts on this forum and know I’m not a doom merchant or a knee-jerk nay sayer. I just truly believe Pearson’s removal is now in the best interest of the club. COYR. That's the spirit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: As for this… I adore this club with every inch of my being. We win and I’m elated for days. It’s a rare feeling at the moment! yep- that's how I feel too... wish I didn't, I have other shite in my life to deal with but I just cant shake it off. During the match I was thinking about Fever Pitch by Nick Hornby- the joy and curse of loving your team - albeit that Arsenal have got a slightly better record than us. As for Nige- on balance I think he should move on but I can't say that with utter conviction. It's a bit like when you have a girlfriend and it's o.k. - there are benefits but you just don'r think the relationship is going anywhere. Something like that anyways. Edited November 12, 2022 by Marina's Rolls Royce second thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 47 minutes ago, Alex_BCFC said: Who exactly can you bring in who will get anything better out of these players with no money available? I think Pearson is doing ok overall and actually we haven’t really had the rub of the green lately. Outplayed SU and Watford yet got 1 point. Indeed. We should and could have quite easily beaten SU Watford and Swansea at home and that would have the table looking an awful lot different. We Played really well in all those 3 games. Pearson is doing fine for me under the circumstances. The defending finally seems to be improving aswell which was my main concern. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbie Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 48 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: 2 wins from 14. We did play well today. We played well against Sheff U as well. 1 point to show for both games. If I’m wrong, and 1 win in 7 is the level of these players I’ll hold my hands up. I just think they’re better that that. As for this… I adore this club with every inch of my being. We win and I’m elated for days. It’s a rare feeling at the moment! So you admit we played well in our last two home games but you want the manager to be sacked? Tough crowd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Think I might start 2 threads. 'What if we win against Rotherham?' and 'What if we draw against Rotherham?'. Clearly, all the potential outcomes of a game in 4 weeks time need to be debated 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Bard said: Think I might start 2 threads. 'What if we win against Rotherham?' and 'What if we draw against Rotherham?'. Clearly, all the potential outcomes of a game in 4 weeks time need to be debated What if Rotherham is abandoned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richyy66 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Countryfile said: What if Rotherham is abandoned? Have you ever been there. Think it already has been. 1 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 If we lose, we lose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 50 minutes ago, Loosey Boy said: If we play like we did today, we will beat Rotherham If we play like we did today, we won’t score. We need to play like we did today but get better in the final third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redrascal2 Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Super said: No I don't think he will be gone or should if we lose. If we play like today we have every chance of winning. Trouble is we never do and we need to start doing it very quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Bobbie said: So you admit we played well in our last two home games but you want the manager to be sacked? Tough crowd Yea absolutely. We play well against good sides and take barely any points. We play crap against bad teams and take barely any points. That’s taken us from 8th to 1 point off the drop. Edited November 12, 2022 by BCFCGav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 This is a ******* weird thread. We don’t play again for 4 weeks so we should sack Pearson now because of the possibility we might lose that game? Is that really what is being suggested? Even by OTIB standards this is odd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusX Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 I don’t know why some people seem convinced he’s one game away from the sack, no chance - and who would want it at this current time? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 36 minutes ago, Countryfile said: What if Rotherham is abandoned? I've heard it called many things, but that's a bit harsh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, GrahamC said: This is a ******* weird thread. We don’t play again for 4 weeks so we should sack Pearson now because of the possibility we might lose that game? Is that really what is being suggested? Even by OTIB standards this is odd. No you’ve misunderstood. The point is we’re one point above the drop and there is now a rare opportunity to make an in-season change that allows a new manager a ‘pre-season’. The Rotherham game is being used as a marker, ie could we rue not using this opportunity if things stay bad. Edited November 12, 2022 by BCFCGav 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 2 hours ago, BCFCGav said: We all know about our seemingly ‘unsolvable’ defensive frailties. On the day we kept a clean sheet? Give yer head a wobble 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 2 hours ago, BCFCGav said: Howpfully many of you will have seen my many posts on this forum and know I’m not a doom merchant or a knee-jerk nay sayer. Not sure if you are half glass full or half empty, but it seems that soneone has pissed in your glass so you don't like it whatsoever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: No you’ve misunderstood. The point is we’re one point above the drop and there is now a rare opportunity to make an in-season change that allows a new manager a ‘pre-season’. The Rotherham game is being used as a marker, ie could we rue not using this opportunity if things stay bad. Why can’t our current manager give them a ‘pre-season’? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, glynriley said: On the day we kept a clean sheet? Give yer head a wobble In our last 4 league games we have let 3 goals. Clearly we’re going through a spell when we’re not scoring many but considering we are currently without Naismith, Kalas, Tanner & Wilson, I’d say that was hardly calamitous. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, TomF said: What if we win? Then the whiners will have to hold for a week Are we getting this s***e type of op every ******* week ? * Feel free to correct me @BCFCGav- but you were clear about ‘Pearson in’ only a fortnight or so ago , were you not ? Pearson in ......Pearson in..........oooooh ....mid season ......we are nearly in the bottom 3..........(turn into wobbling jelly) .....Pearson out 4 consecutive decent performances in Championship with patched up teams , albeit an unfair points return , and its time to sack Pearson......jeeeeez Or is it toys out the pram because of the crap Lincoln performance and result ? - a competition a lot of players clearly struggle to get up for (Look at results every round , every season) I suggest if you are really upset about that , it’s the players you should be p****d off with Edited November 13, 2022 by Sheltons Army 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Always thought @BCFCGav was a bit more of a positive poster. Anyway that aside... We lose at Rotherham? We beat Stoke at home the following Saturday! Barring FFP disaster falling during this season, I doubt NP takes us down so I'm fairly relaxed about him remaining in charge, I think he'll see us okay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 hours ago, grifty said: Our defensive frailties - we've actually only conceded 7 in 7 league games. And we are playing a right back an attacking midfielder and a left wing back as our three centre backs. Pring was dropped due to injury plus 3 occasions where at the end of a game he lost the ball resulting in an opposition goal rather than being smart and keeping possession. He's played in the last half a dozen league games. Massengo will not sign a new contract. Who should he come in for? Scott? Best player we have. Williams? Today showed what a tenacious midfielder he is and has seemingly got over his injury/fitness issues. James? He was excellent today and with the other two to carry his mobility, his calmness and passing are much improved. The way we played against Swansea, Sheff Utd and Watford deserved a win in all three games and I don't think anyone can really argue the performances deserved that. That would have given us and extra 7 points and we'd be sat either 6th or 7th going into Xmas. Our next 3 games are against 16th, 17th and 21st. Certainly winnable, although West From might be a different prospect. I'd argue the Swansea game being a draw was fair although I mostly agree on your post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Countryfile said: Don’t go complicating things with your bizarre optimism, you’ll be saying England might win the World Cup next. That's a given Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 6 hours ago, David Brent said: If we lose, we lose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: That's a given Well, Pakistan are batting so if we get a few early wickets we ought to. Or did you mean a different World Cup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 11 hours ago, BCFCGav said: Forgive me for a negative post. I was really upset by Tuesday, the Carabao is wide open this year with many big teams drawing one another. Good opportunity for a club of our calibre to try and do something great. But we fielded a poor side and played awful, and for me it was Pearson’s last straw. We all know about his awful win rate. We all know about our seemingly ‘unsolvable’ defensive frailties. We all know about his ‘bombing out’ of players off one bad game (Pring, Massengo, so unnecessary). Looks like we’re sticking with him… so what if we lose to Rotherham? Is that the last straw? Because his replacement then has 3 days to prepare for his first match rather than 3 weeks. He should go now. Financial restrictions due to Ashton’s negligence mean our squad is thin, but is it one point above relegation in quality? No it’s not. So the problem for me lies with the manager. Howpfully many of you will have seen my many posts on this forum and know I’m not a doom merchant or a knee-jerk nay sayer. I just truly believe Pearson’s removal is now in the best interest of the club. COYR. I'll ask mummy to pop up & change the sheets. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Also the manager might have selection issues for Rotherham…Naismith must be on the radar for that game, along with Kalas.. I am sure I heard NP mention on radio Bristol a friendly will be arranged in the break as well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View from the Dolman Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 If we are to sack Pearson on the basis we might lose against Rotherham, should we also sack his successor just in case he might possibly dare to lose against Rotherham? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) The last few games , I feel like the elephant in the room is slowly growing. You know that sign of a promotion team is how they pick up points playing badly. Well right now city aren't picking up wins playing well.(in my opinion one of the worst feelings in sport) A relegation dog fight is right there, We've gone from a team who scored for fun but conceded far too many ,to a team who have scored twice in 12 league games. Performances are nice , and yes normally results follow, but they need to follow soon. Right now - performance wise it shows what the team is. A mix of good and bad. Never knowing which is coming in any half. Really hope those first 3 or 4 games come out flying, failing that just win ugly. Points on board is all that matters. (obviously) Edited November 13, 2022 by The turtle 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, The turtle said: The last few games , I feel like the elephant in the room is slowly growing. You know that sign of a promotion team is how they pick up points playing badly. Well right now city aren't picking up wins playing well.(in my opinion one of the worst feelings in sport) A relegation dog fight is right there, We've gone from a team who scored for fun but conceded far too many ,to a team who have scored twice in 12 league games. Performances are nice , and yes normally results follow, but they need to follow soon. Right now - performance wise it shows what the team is. A mix of good and bad. Never knowing which is coming in any half. Really hope those first 3 or 4 games come out flying, failing that just win ugly. Points on board is all that matters. (obviously) We haven't scored twice in 12 league games? We've scored twice in 5 league games after the 2-0 win at West Brom. We have conceded 5 in 5 which is an improvement. We haven't been playing that badly on the whole in the league, we're creating chances and the goals will come again. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, DaveF said: We haven't scored twice in 12 league games? We've scored twice in 5 league games after the 2-0 win at West Brom. We have conceded 5 in 5 which is an improvement. We haven't been playing that badly on the whole in the league, we're creating chances and the goals will come again. Poorly phrased I meant , scored more than 1 goal twice in 12 games (Preston , wba) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Someone is going to get a tonking by us soon! It might not be Rotherham but might be someone not long after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 14 hours ago, BCFCGav said: Forgive me for a negative post. I was really upset by Tuesday, the Carabao is wide open this year with many big teams drawing one another. Good opportunity for a club of our calibre to try and do something great. But we fielded a poor side and played awful, and for me it was Pearson’s last straw. We all know about his awful win rate. We all know about our seemingly ‘unsolvable’ defensive frailties. We all know about his ‘bombing out’ of players off one bad game (Pring, Massengo, so unnecessary). Looks like we’re sticking with him… so what if we lose to Rotherham? Is that the last straw? Because his replacement then has 3 days to prepare for his first match rather than 3 weeks. He should go now. Financial restrictions due to Ashton’s negligence mean our squad is thin, but is it one point above relegation in quality? No it’s not. So the problem for me lies with the manager. Howpfully many of you will have seen my many posts on this forum and know I’m not a doom merchant or a knee-jerk nay sayer. I just truly believe Pearson’s removal is now in the best interest of the club. COYR. Why should he go now? Lincoln game aside, in our last 3 home games, Watford, Sheffield Utd and Swansea, all top teams, we've been the better team and should have won them all bar some poor finishing and poor refereeing decisions. Surely, if we play like we did yesterday in every game then you would be happy? Cos that was a top performance. With not a natural CB playing CB. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W-S-M Seagull Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 12 hours ago, BCFCGav said: No you’ve misunderstood. The point is we’re one point above the drop and there is now a rare opportunity to make an in-season change that allows a new manager a ‘pre-season’. The Rotherham game is being used as a marker, ie could we rue not using this opportunity if things stay bad. I think this is bizarre. We played really well yesterday. And you want to sack a manager in the hope a new manager can replicate the performance we had yesterday? What's the point? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 52 minutes ago, The turtle said: The last few games , I feel like the elephant in the room is slowly growing. You know that sign of a promotion team is how they pick up points playing badly. Well right now city aren't picking up wins playing well.(in my opinion one of the worst feelings in sport) A relegation dog fight is right there, We've gone from a team who scored for fun but conceded far too many ,to a team who have scored twice in 12 league games. Performances are nice , and yes normally results follow, but they need to follow soon. Right now - performance wise it shows what the team is. A mix of good and bad. Never knowing which is coming in any half. Really hope those first 3 or 4 games come out flying, failing that just win ugly. Points on board is all that matters. (obviously) This has been what’s worrying me too. We are currently finding wins so hard to come by, even when we play well. The thing that’s really been costing us, though, is poor performances against teams like Millwall and Birmingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Offside said: This has been what’s worrying me too. We are currently finding wins so hard to come by, even when we play well. The thing that’s really been costing us, though, is poor performances against teams like Millwall and Birmingham. "Teams like" is a bit of a hmm, for me. Sides who have finished above us or similar in recent times. All the same agree to some extent as these games weren't just poor but inexplicably so. Birmingham away, Reading away and a lot of Millwall at home we were so bad...defensive errors, barely any shots and more worryingly asleep, lethargic- or it felt like that anyway. Parts of QPR at home 1at half too, 2nd half was much more like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad blit Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, BCFCGav said: 2 wins from 14. We did play well today. We played well against Sheff U as well. 1 point to show for both games. If I’m wrong, and 1 win in 7 is the level of these players I’ll hold my hands up. I just think they’re better that that. As for this… I adore this club with every inch of my being. We win and I’m elated for days. It’s a rare feeling at the moment! Let’s be fair it’s a good point to make, many other managers with this poor return from last 14 games, or indeed his overall win rate since being with us is around 25%, are both valid reasons for sacking. We are in a results based business and the table dosnt lie. BUT like many others im looking at the bigger picture with City, to coin a Pearson phrase “I don’t like the Scatter Gun approach” and happy to give 1 proven manager a good amount of time to address issues on and off the pitch. I understand many peoples negatives thoughts about Pearson, but personally I think we are in better hands with him till end of seaon, unless results get that bad we are really in trouble, but I don’t see that happening especially with performances like yesterday Edited November 13, 2022 by brad blit 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 14 hours ago, BCFCGav said: Forgive me for a negative post. I was really upset by Tuesday, the Carabao is wide open this year with many big teams drawing one another. Good opportunity for a club of our calibre to try and do something great. But we fielded a poor side and played awful, and for me it was Pearson’s last straw. We all know about his awful win rate. We all know about our seemingly ‘unsolvable’ defensive frailties. We all know about his ‘bombing out’ of players off one bad game (Pring, Massengo, so unnecessary). Looks like we’re sticking with him… so what if we lose to Rotherham? Is that the last straw? Because his replacement then has 3 days to prepare for his first match rather than 3 weeks. He should go now. Financial restrictions due to Ashton’s negligence mean our squad is thin, but is it one point above relegation in quality? No it’s not. So the problem for me lies with the manager. Howpfully many of you will have seen my many posts on this forum and know I’m not a doom merchant or a knee-jerk nay sayer. I just truly believe Pearson’s removal is now in the best interest of the club. COYR. Sorry, but have to say this, but if we were having a vote for the daftest post in the first half of the season, this would have to be a very strong candidate! So you’re actually asking if we should sack a manager, just in case we lose the next match??? The number of people who have it in for NP is baffling, considering the pedigree of manager we normally go for and the mess this one has to vlear up. That discussion has been done to death though, so let’s just look at the following important point. There are whispers that we may get through FFP by the skin of our teeth. If this is the case, what if the costs of bringing in a new manager and their associated coaching team pushes us over the edge and we fall foul of FFP after all? If that actually happened, would you be confident that the new team could accumulate the additional points compared to NP to compensate for the points deduction we’d probably get?? I know this is all iff’s and but’s, but you started that with your original post!!! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) So I get the impression people generally disagree with my sentiments. That’s fine, forums are for debates. I think I could’ve been clearer in my op, I don’t want to see him go in case we lose our next game, I’m querying if now is the best time if it’s something SL is considering. Tuesday really wound me up and that came through, but of course if he’s still the man in charge I’ll be backing him and our club against Rotherham as heartily as the rest of us. Now let me get on with my Sunday without the pelters please Edited November 13, 2022 by BCFCGav 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, BrizzleRed said: Sorry, but have to say this, but if we were having a vote for the daftest post in the first half of the season, this would have to be a very strong candidate! So you’re actually asking if we should sack a manager, just in case we lose the next match??? The number of people who have it in for NP is baffling, considering the pedigree of manager we normally go for and the mess this one has to vlear up. That discussion has been done to death though, so let’s just look at the following important point. There are whispers that we may get through FFP by the skin of our teeth. If this is the case, what if the costs of bringing in a new manager and their associated coaching team pushes us over the edge and we fall foul of FFP after all? If that actually happened, would you be confident that the new team could accumulate the additional points compared to NP to compensate for the points deduction we’d probably get?? I know this is all iff’s and but’s, but you started that with your original post!!! Stop it with your rational posts. Obvious that we are in a difficult financial situation and it seems likely that this is the most difficult year. Whoever is the manager over the summer will have leeway to sign players, but we won't be signing any more than 2 or 3 proven championship players plus a few more Sykes type signings. I trust Pearson to guide us through this. It is obviously an extremely competitive division with very little separating teams. However, the rest of the season looks less taxing. There are far less evening games meaning less tired players. It seems to me that one of his weak points is managing the heavier workloads and this is because he doesn't like rotation. He is therefore more reactive when changing sides. This will be less of an issue for the rest of the season. We've got 5 out of 25 league games midweek, whereas we've already had 7 out of 21 midweek so far. It is time for holding our nerve, making sure the players are well rested and fit and we will be fine. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 16 hours ago, BCFCGav said: Forgive me for a negative post. I was really upset by Tuesday, the Carabao is wide open this year with many big teams drawing one another. Good opportunity for a club of our calibre to try and do something great. But we fielded a poor side and played awful, and for me it was Pearson’s last straw. We all know about his awful win rate. We all know about our seemingly ‘unsolvable’ defensive frailties. We all know about his ‘bombing out’ of players off one bad game (Pring, Massengo, so unnecessary). Looks like we’re sticking with him… so what if we lose to Rotherham? Is that the last straw? Because his replacement then has 3 days to prepare for his first match rather than 3 weeks. He should go now. Financial restrictions due to Ashton’s negligence mean our squad is thin, but is it one point above relegation in quality? No it’s not. So the problem for me lies with the manager. Howpfully many of you will have seen my many posts on this forum and know I’m not a doom merchant or a knee-jerk nay sayer. I just truly believe Pearson’s removal is now in the best interest of the club. COYR. What if? What if? What if? What if? FFS........what a ridiculous post. What if during the WC break we sign the first ever Alien footballer from the planet Zirgo? Who is eight foot tall with two heads..............might have trouble registering him though? What if? What if? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr Popodopolous said: "Teams like" is a bit of a hmm, for me. Sides who have finished above us or similar in recent times. All the same agree to some extent as these games weren't just poor but inexplicably so. Birmingham away, Reading away and a lot of Millwall at home we were so bad...defensive errors, barely any shots and more worryingly asleep, lethargic- or it felt like that anyway. Parts of QPR at home 1at half too, 2nd half was much more like it. I know what you mean, my choice of wording wasn’t great. I don’t think we have a right to beat anyone, as our league position over the last couple of seasons shows. By “teams like” I meant sides who haven’t got loads of money who we should be able to compete against, when actually we have played really badly. If only we could put in performances like yesterday and Sheff Utd against mid table sides we’d not be so close to the relegation zone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 4 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Well, Pakistan are batting so if we get a few early wickets we ought to. Or did you mean a different World Cup? Ohhhh keep up. Great T20 final. Well played England. And yes I did mean a different world cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrizzleRed Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, The Bard said: Stop it with your rational posts. Obvious that we are in a difficult financial situation and it seems likely that this is the most difficult year. Whoever is the manager over the summer will have leeway to sign players, but we won't be signing any more than 2 or 3 proven championship players plus a few more Sykes type signings. I trust Pearson to guide us through this. It is obviously an extremely competitive division with very little separating teams. However, the rest of the season looks less taxing. There are far less evening games meaning less tired players. It seems to me that one of his weak points is managing the heavier workloads and this is because he doesn't like rotation. He is therefore more reactive when changing sides. This will be less of an issue for the rest of the season. We've got 5 out of 25 league games midweek, whereas we've already had 7 out of 21 midweek so far. It is time for holding our nerve, making sure the players are well rested and fit and we will be fine. Totally agree. We’ve been stuck with a small squad and that’s been severely tested with injuries and the understandable inconsistent form of some of the younger players. Anyone expecting more than an roller-coaster of a season in this unforgiving division really needs to have a stern word with themselves. A totally different situation if we see a repeat next season, with more freedom in terms of recruitment. That’s when I reckon NP should really be judged. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 50 minutes ago, BCFCGav said: So I get the impression people generally disagree with my sentiments. That’s fine, forums are for debates. I think I could’ve been clearer in my op, I don’t want to see him go in case we lose our next game, I’m querying if now is the best time if it’s something SL is considering. Tuesday really wound me up and that came through, but of course if he’s still the man in charge I’ll be backing him and our club against Rotherham as heartily as the rest of us. Now let me get on with my Sunday without the pelters please One way that could be positive is as someone pointed out to me yesterday we now have one away game in nearly seven weeks, Rotherham away , so perhaps we can get as many up there as possible , a few of us definitely going so would be good to see a decent turnout there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Offside said: I know what you mean, my choice of wording wasn’t great. I don’t think we have a right to beat anyone, as our league position over the last couple of seasons shows. By “teams like” I meant sides who haven’t got loads of money who we should be able to compete against, when actually we have played really badly. If only we could put in performances like yesterday and Sheff Utd against mid table sides we’d not be so close to the relegation zone. Totally get that yeah, don't disagree either. We might still have dropped points in some of those games but play like we did vs Sheffield United, yesterday and even v Swansea in a lot of ways and we would have more points I'm sure. Our point v Coventry at the time was a bit of two dropped, now doesn't look so bad- they are now absolutely flying form wise in recent weeks. They were always in a bit of a false position I thought, but I digress more consistency of baseline performance- and this is really important for me, the baseline performance that we have seen in some of these games where we were so flat or felt like we were asleep and we would IMO have more points. Plus when I refer to baseline performance, I don't just mean technically or shots wise but teamwork, cohesiveness, energy and endeavour. We really need that every match as a starting point. Edited November 13, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 What if there was a shitier thread than this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Rotherham would have 29 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 However it compares with previous seasons, 8 points from playoffs to relegation at close to halfway, feels reasonably tight. Seems as if we’re playing a bit of whack-a-mole between attacking and defensive success, maybe because of Naismith increasing likelihood of goals at both ends (so far at least). Think perfect scenario (albeit optimistic) would be decent money in Jan for Semenyo and maybe a couple of others off the payroll and then spend some money bringing the bench/squad up a level. Less dreamy would be mega bucks for Scott. Given we’ve not done well against some of the middling teams, but played better against higher quality (even if not winning), would be tempted to persist with 3 in midfield as standard - James in front will also help provide balance when Naismith is back. Whatever happens against Rotherham, I’d persist with NP, as becoming increasingly clear what the problem is (squad depth) and that’s something to try to support the manager with (finances notwithstanding), not change the manager (unless Elon Musk agrees to be manager and pay us £10m a day for the privilege). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Unfortunately, losing to Rotherham would give the nay-sayers reason to chuckle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 5 hours ago, DaveF said: We haven't scored twice in 12 league games? We've scored twice in 5 league games after the 2-0 win at West Brom. We have conceded 5 in 5 which is an improvement. We haven't been playing that badly on the whole in the league, we're creating chances and the goals will come again. Since 14th Sept we have played 14games; L8, D4 and W2 playing great/bad/rubbish or whatever football that is a poor run in any ones book most are looking up in hope, while ignoring whats behind us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, gl2 said: Since 14th Sept we have played 14games; L8, D4 and W2 playing great/bad/rubbish or whatever football that is a poor run in any ones book most are looking up in hope, while ignoring whats behind us. No most can see we have played very well against 3 of the top sides and unlucky not to have beaten all 3 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 39 minutes ago, The Swan and Cemetery said: However it compares with previous seasons, 8 points from playoffs to relegation at close to halfway, feels reasonably tight. It's incredibly tight this season. Normally there's one or two teams on 2 points per game, this season there's none. Normally there's 4 or 5 on less than 1 point per game, currently there's only one, and even Huddersfield have 0.95 ppg. So very very contracted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, gl2 said: Since 14th Sept we have played 14games; L8, D4 and W2 playing great/bad/rubbish or whatever football that is a poor run in any ones book most are looking up in hope, while ignoring whats behind us. Don`t you ever get bored with posting the same old stuff on virtually every thread like we are unaware of it or something? 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Don`t you ever get bored with posting the same old stuff on virtually every thread like we are unaware of it or something? Well said Has posted the same stat about a dozen times on various threads Yawwwwwwwwwn 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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