redkev Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Personally even though England didn’t play that well I thought the yanks were really very good . Very strong , physical and quick all round the pitch . if I were manager I would change things a little , walker Henderson Foden grealish possibly Rashford doesn’t weaken the side at all just freshens it up a little . on another note how does mount get in ahead of foden . Offers nothing in my eyes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Come on Saudi !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 16 hours ago, Globe Trotter said: The fact Southgate feels the need for Henderson to make us solid against the USA tells me all I need to know Well, he really did need Henderson in there to make us more solid as USA were pissing all over us in midield and Bellingham had an absolute stinker of a game, a 3/10 effort. The game passed him by and changing Bellingham for Foden as a single change would have done nothing to help us defensively. He was right to bring Henderson on to give us a degree of defensive control but to leave Mason ******* Mount out there whilst Foden was sat there picking splinters out of his arse was criminal and for that alone Southgate couldn't moan if he got his ass kicked out of it tbh. He's an over-cautious Manager who doesn't have the faintest clue how to accommodate the best English midfield player in the country and I would fire him after this tournament unless he wins it. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Open End Numb Legs said: I think when Southgate gets it right pre game it goes well, what he has shown is he struggles to adapt during the game when it isn't panning out the way he expected. He was simply too slow to react last night in terms of subs, we played 2 touch football, US played 1 touch, our man marking in defence was very poor. We have all the talent required, he just needs to make the right calls. I don’t think our defence was too bad last night I thought the likes of saka , mount , Sterling we’re very poor even Bellingham and rice were only average at best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Rollason Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Just now, Coin-op said: Can anyone explain what a forced turnover is? Also what is a defensive line break? Are these for American audiences? Not heard (seen) these before. A turnover is any time, outside of downs, the team with the ball loses control of the ball to the other team usually via an interception ,a fumble from a ball carrier, sacking the qb or stripping the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Lovely goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 3 hours ago, spudski said: England v Wales...state of this lot. It's like a comedy sketch. Some blokes even thumping his own head No doubt England fans will get the blame. Chances are it was more 50:50 regarding responsibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Numero Uno said: Well, he really did need Henderson in there to make us more solid as USA were pissing all over us in midield and Bellingham had an absolute stinker of a game, a 3/10 effort. The game passed him by and changing Bellingham for Foden as a single change would have done nothing to help us defensively. He was right to bring Henderson on to give us a degree of defensive control but to leave Mason ******* Mount out there whilst Foden was sat there picking splinters out of his arse was criminal and for that alone Southgate couldn't moan if he got his ass kicked out of it tbh. He's an over-cautious Manager who doesn't have the faintest clue how to accommodate the best English midfield player in the country and I would fire him after this tournament unless he wins it. I agree people bemoan Henderson but there are certain games when you need a steady Eddie and last night was one of them . As for being slow to change things that there shows why top top managers earn the corn so to speak the likes of sir Alex / mourinio would have been changing things long before Southgate did , he was hoping we would get ourselves out of the rut we were in . Good managers are proactive not reactive I’m afraid Southgate is the latter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 56 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Difficult to know who to compare Khomeini and Khameini to, but they are both hypocritical power-mad dictators and murderers. One name comes to mind.... The only difference is that one is dead (good riddance), and unfortunately the other isn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Bris Red said: Have you lived under a rock for the past 56 years or what? Have you not seen the countless managers that have tried and failed to get us to be competitive at international tournament level.. Just getting to the later stages of tournament football has proved impossible for the vast majority of previous England managers let alone winning things. Some have had better squads than what Southgate has at his disposal right now. Some people in this country unfortunately are fairly deluded when it comes to international football. If people think winning world cups and euros is all about playing scintillating attacking football every game then they are very mistaken. Just ask the Italians or the Germans - both countries masters at grinding out results and winning trophies not always playing pretty expansive football. It's not about expecting to win the World Cup (I don't) but leaving your best player out of the side because you can't find a way of accommodating him is criminal. Let's be fair about that. I don't ever recall Germany or Italy leaving out their best midfield player when they were "grinding" out trophies. Pirlo was alright, he was picked by Italy. Mattheus was never told "sorry me old China, I know you're ******* brilliant but I just can't fit you in with this shower of shit alongside you, they can win the trophies and you just sit there watching".........so on that basis if Southgate doesn't win it after making a conscious decision to bench his best player he's got to go for me..........or he's got to bang his head against a wall and start picking a lad who is the only English midfield player that would even be allowed to attend training by Pep let alone get a regular starting berth in his side. Pep would just tell Mount to go and put the cones out and stay out of the ******* way for the rest of the session. Either that or one of you tell me, with a straight face, that you genuinely think Mason Mount is better than Phil Foden - who's going to start the bidding? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolmanGaz Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 that pen is a joke of a decision. minimal contact and throws himself to the floor. game is gone 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkev Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: No doubt England fans will get the blame. Chances are it was more 50:50 regarding responsibility Goes to show no alcohol in Qatar no trouble Alcohol in Tenerife trouble you can tell it’s alcohol related by the state of the punches being thrown 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 What a double save 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: It's not about expecting to win the World Cup (I don't) but leaving your best player out of the side because you can't find a way of accommodating him is criminal. Let's be fair about that. I don't ever recall Germany or Italy leaving out their best midfield player when they were "grinding" out trophies. Pirlo was alright, he was picked by Italy. Mattheus was never told "sorry me old China, I know you're ******* brilliant but I just can't fit you in with this shower of shit alongside you, they can win the trophies and you just sit there watching".........so on that basis if Southgate doesn't win it after making a conscious decision to bench his best player he's got to go for me..........or he's got to bang his head against a wall and start picking a lad who is the only English midfield player that would even be allowed to attend training by Pep let alone get a regular starting berth in his side. Pep would just tell Mount to go and put the cones out and stay out of the ******* way for the rest of the session. Either that or one of you tell me, with a straight face, that you genuinely think Mason Mount is better than Phil Foden - who's going to start the bidding? Different types of Player too,and Mount and Foden. If playing both I'd go Mount higher up and Foden in a CM 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Didn't catch the first 20 odd, but really enjoying the game. Full of energy and threat, hope it stays like this 2nd half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: Different types of Player too,and Mount and Foden. If playing both I'd go Mount higher up and Foden in a CM 3. The point is it doesn't matter too much about "types" of player unless you are fixated, which Southgate is, about playing a full compliment of midfield players who can do defensive job over a player than can go past people and create something. When you have top players playing for top teams at your disposal you get them on the pitch and you find a water carrier to do the defensive work for them (like Brazil and France do) - that's the reason why you have to pick players like of Henderson, it's not because they have an unrivalled range of passing or can glide past players. Not to use Foden and to play Mount the full 90 was shambolic management. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, DolmanGaz said: that pen is a joke of a decision. minimal contact and throws himself to the floor. game is gone If that's a Pen there should be 500 Free Kicks a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Red-Robbo said: It was dull and tedious. That is the main point for me - because it doesn't have to be. We have some very exciting players. I certainly don't expect England to win every game they take part in, but I do like to be entertained, not frustrated by timidity. As for naming teams that do well in the group stages and advance to finals, you only have to cast your mind back to Russia, where Croatia beat Argentina and Nigeria to top their group and looked good VFM throughout. They may not have won it, but they advanced further than their nation ever had. Or take Brazil in 2002, scoring 11 goals to top their group and going on to win. Would also add different tournament but Spain in the Euros of 2008 looked strong throughout, and the group stage no exception. Italy for the most part in 2021 as well, Germany had a strong tournament group stage included in the WC of 2014 and Italy a sort of middling one in 2006. Not brilliant but not terrible either- perfectly reasonable. Edited November 26, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, chinapig said: Fair comment. There seems to be a belief that teams win the World Cup playing thrilling attacking football throughout, which tends not to be the case. France won in 2018 yet Deschamps was getting a lot of stick at home for being too cautious. By their own admission the 2010 Spain side kept the ball for long periods to prevent the opposition from scoring. They won the competition with a succession of 1-0 wins; exciting they were not! Whether all that justifies playing for a clean sheet against the USA remains a moot point though. Spain of 2010 was a weird one. Always thought they had more gears to go through attacking wise, vs most. While keeping the ball is a good defensive strategy, it is also the case perhaps that a lot of opposition sat deep or counter pressed which gave them little choice. They still had good shot numbers in addition to possession even if not so prolific . Edited November 26, 2022 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 23 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: No doubt England fans will get the blame. Chances are it was more 50:50 regarding responsibility Bunch of brain dead pond life...the lot of em. As someone else said...it just needs Benny Hill music to it. The Welsh bloke on the left, helps his mate up, then ends up lumping him one by accident another ends up wearing a chair on his head...and just stands there. English bloke starts thumping his own head. Two face off then start waltzing together. A whole load of ice skating going on. It's like a comedy sketch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Would also add differs t tournament but Spain in the Euros of 2008 looked strong throughout the group stage no exception. Italy for the most part in 2021 as well, Germany had a strong tournament group stage included in the WC of 2014 and Italy a sort of middling one in 2006. Not brilliant but not terrible either- perfectly reasonable. Exactly. Don't get me wrong. I'm certainly not saying one underwhelming performance will define England's tournament. It's just fickin typical that it happens to be the only game I watched that was so dull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 49 minutes ago, Coin-op said: Can anyone explain what a forced turnover is? Also what is a defensive line break? Are these for American audiences? Not heard (seen) these before. Forced turnover is a tackle and defensive line break I’m guessing is a ball through or a man running with the ball,it’s all tosh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 If England win its because the opposition were awful. If England don’t win, the opposition is irrelevant and England are awful 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 On 24/11/2022 at 23:09, Harry said: It’s number 3) To follow up my last penalties, checked some Championship penalty ratios for recent years. NO VAR so it's a perfect sample size. Last season, it was 0.1938 per game. This season (to date) it is 0.1726 per game. 2019-20 it was 0.2409 per game. 2020-21 it was 0.2536 per game. A sharp fall in penalties awarded without doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Versus Wales..........we need to rest Kane, drop Sterling, and play Foden and Wilson..........and with Wilson in the middle, also play Alexander Arnold IMO...............it so easy being England manager....Ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: If England win its because the opposition were awful. If England don’t win, the opposition is irrelevant and England are awful Don’t forget we have the best midfielders and strike force when we score but our defence is awful,when we don’t score but keep a clean sheet our forward players are crap and our defence is still crap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Such a shame that whenever SA find themselves in a good shooting position as a result of excellent approach play.......they blast it, instead of placing it, they should be at least drawing.........gonna cost them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 44 minutes ago, redkev said: Goes to show no alcohol in Qatar no trouble Alcohol in Tenerife trouble you can tell it’s alcohol related by the state of the punches being thrown There is alcohol out there but I’d imagine it’s the stricter punishments that are more of a deterrent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Not apologising for Southgate but I wonder how much the Wales result changed his thinking and approach to the game. Wales win then we need to beat USA to retain control of the group. Wales lose and we only need a point so play not to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Don’t forget we have the best midfielders and strike force when we score but our defence is awful,when we don’t score but keep a clean sheet our forward players are crap and our defence is still crap We kept a clean sheet because the US doesn't have a particularly formidable strike force, not because our defence were watertight. McKenzie, in particular, was given the freedom of our box time and time again. As for the forwards, they weren't great but the ball rarely got to them, so chances were sparse. It's a draw, not a loss, but let's not try conning ourselves it was any sort of decent performance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, maxjak said: Such a shame that whenever SA find themselves in a good shooting position as a result of excellent approach play.......they blast it, instead of placing it, they should be at least drawing.........gonna cost them? They remind me very much of the African teams in the 80’s. Relative novices at this level, good energy and athleticism, decent approach play, but all to often completely lose their heads when in a good attacking position. Gradually the African sides started to develop more composure as the game at this level became more familiar to them and they didn’t get quite so excited when presented a chance to score. I’ve been impressed by Saudi Arabia and I’d imagine the more they play at this sort of level that they’ll gradually gain that composure too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Good showing by Saudi but just lack the final clinical finish. Hey ho, but have nothing to be ashamed of. Very impressed with them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Show Me The Money! said: Why should we be winning tournaments? Are we better than France, Spain, Brazil, Portugal, even Italy maybe (and they didn’t even qualify)? No, I don’t think we are At this moment with the negative muppet in charge, no. But we have the players to be better than them yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Port Said Red said: Ridiculous statement. Since he became Manager, has he had more at his disposal than France, Germany, Brazil, Belgium? It's elite World Class competition, winning it is as rare as hens teeth. He has made us consistently competitive and that's an achievement in itself at this level. You keep accepting mediocrity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 26 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: We kept a clean sheet because the US doesn't have a particularly formidable strike force, not because our defence were watertight. McKenzie, in particular, was given the freedom of our box time and time again. As for the forwards, they weren't great but the ball rarely got to them, so chances were sparse. It's a draw, not a loss, but let's not try conning ourselves it was any sort of decent performance. Midfield is a problem,obviously golden boy was struggling but then we get Henderson and people were outraged that he came on instead of flinging on more forward players,it’s bizarre that some people thought the way to fix something is replace like for like in attacking areas without taking notice we had no holding midfielder doing his job 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 40 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: If England win its because the opposition were awful. If England don’t win, the opposition is irrelevant and England are awful I think you are talking about a minority (sizeable but a minority nonetheless). We followed up a great performance attacking wise v Iran with a very poor display last night. Maguire had a great game in terms of dealing with set pieces so thanks to him, to all intents and purposes, we go through, the aim of tournament football. However, when we get through and play better sides that starting XI last night will be piss easy to defend against. The vast majority of fans and ex pro’s are saying the same thing - he’s got to find a way of getting Foden on the pitch and firing. If you need to unlock a France team in the Quarters then your best attacking midfield player by a country mile has to be starting not sat around watching the likes of Mount, Saka and Bellingham failing to do the basics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, frenchred said: At this moment with the negative muppet in charge, no. But we have the players to be better than them yes Do you want to go hung ho and get absolutely battered when we play a good team like when brazil got battered by the Germans,imagine the scenes on here if we got thumped 7-1 or whatever it was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Midfield is a problem,obviously golden boy was struggling but then we get Henderson and people were outraged that he came on instead of flinging on more forward players,it’s bizarre that some people thought the way to fix something is replace like for like in attacking areas without taking notice we had no holding midfielder doing his job Agreed. The old "Throw on 4 forwards and we're bound to score" theory was outdated 20 years ago and it's outdated now. 4 Strikers/forward players can crowd each other out for one but significantly as you can say, can just cede the midfield, just handing a big advantage to the opposition to pass around or break through the gaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerly known as ivan Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said: We got the point and are in pole position to win the group but think we need to dominate those central areas a bit more to control the game better and both guard against the counter. Unsure Mount in a central 3 does this and certainly vs better sides..I have certain tactical biases granted. What about Rice, Foden, Bellingham in a genuine CM 3? We only really played in fits and starts, bit disappointing. Southgate’s comments suggests Foden has little chance of playing at the top of a midfield three, which is concerning given Mount seems to be the only one he will play in that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 This game should (famous last words) be a good one. Followed by Argentina needing to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said: Do you want to go hung ho and get absolutely battered when we play a good team like when brazil got battered by the Germans,imagine the scenes on here if we got thumped 7-1 or whatever it was We don’t need to. Make your midfield solid I completely agree and stick your best player in the side. Balance, that’s what we need when it comes down to the Big Boys football. Last night was not balanced at all until he brought Henderson on but we were still missing the player who gives you a spark the other way….and we have that player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Argentina are one mis-step away from elimination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Agreed. The old "Throw on 4 forwards and we're bound to score" theory was outdated 20 years ago and it's outdated now. 4 Strikers/forward players can crowd each other out for one but significantly as you can say, can just cede the midfield, just handing a big advantage to the opposition to pass around or break through the gaps. We were getting played through and leaving massive gaps for 75 minutes as it was…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Just now, Numero Uno said: We were getting played through and leaving massive gaps for 75 minutes as it was…. Indeed, was making wider point too. Henderson-Rice-Foden for such a scenario maybe? Think we definitely need a truer 3 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1891 B.C. Sweden Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Famara Diedhiou scored in the World Cup. Has any other player who played for Bristol City managed that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Just now, Mr Popodopolous said: Indeed, was making wider point too. Henderson-Rice-Foden for such a scenario maybe? Think we definitely need a truer 3 though. Bellingham will no doubt get another go and fair enough as it could have been a case of just a one off poor game but I think your midfield three against a top side would be a better option on that showing last night. My gut says though that Mount is undroppable and Foden, like Grealish, is seen by Southgate as no more than an impact player. Not an opinion shared by Pep!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, 1891 B.C. Sweden said: Famara Diedhiou scored in the World Cup. Has any other player who played for Bristol City managed that? Joe Jordan did before playing for us. Not sure any have afterwards. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Pleased to see Lewandowski finally get his first World Cup goal. You could clearly see how much it meant to him. Now that this pressure is off his shoulders, perhaps he can help Poland to eliminate Argentina with another or goal or two. However, it's a big ask, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Joe Jordan did before playing for us. Not sure any have afterwards. Any others before or after? Norman Hunter Terry Cooper Edited November 26, 2022 by RedLionLad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, 1891 B.C. Sweden said: Famara Diedhiou scored in the World Cup. Has any other player who played for Bristol City managed that? Dziekanowski ? But probably off the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 13 minutes ago, Numero Uno said: Bellingham will no doubt get another go and fair enough as it could have been a case of just a one off poor game but I think your midfield three against a top side would be a better option on that showing last night. My gut says though that Mount is undroppable and Foden, like Grealish, is seen by Southgate as no more than an impact player. Not an opinion shared by Pep!! Grealish is a bit part player for pep,I think we all know foden should be in this side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said: Dziekanowski ? But probably off the pitch. He was in the 1986 Polish squad but no idea if he scored. He got 20 for Poland overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 So is it safe to assume that should Semenyo score he will be the first current Bristol City player to score at a world cup? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: Any others before or after? Norman Hunter Terry Cooper David James 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said: So is it safe to assume that should Semenyo score he will be the first current Bristol City player to score at a world cup? He would be,would also be worth a few Bob for us but he can’t finish for toffee so wouldn’t be having a bet on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Just now, RedLionLad said: David James Lethal in front of the net he was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: David James Not your fault mate because you must of jumped in without understanding,it’s who has scored at a World Cup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 The Polish manager could pass for Nige's chubbier younger brother. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: David James Spooky! He`s a studio pundit for FGR v Alvechurch as we speak! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 18 minutes ago, RedLionLad said: Any others before or after? Norman Hunter Terry Cooper I may be wrong, but I don't think Hunter played in the Cup - although he was in the 66 and 70 squads (I've got his medallion in my ESSO '70 tournament book! ) Cooper never scored for England. Not sure if Jacki D scored for Poland at the finals?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Lethal in front of the net he was I’m sure he had a few shots on goal. They definitely weren’t aimed at any of his teammates 7 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Not your fault mate because you must of jumped in without understanding,it’s who has scored at a World Cup True story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLionLad Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 7 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Spooky! He`s a studio pundit for FGR v Alvechurch as we speak! I was looking straight at him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: Not sure if Jacki D scored for Poland at the finals?? On a quick Google I think Jacki only went to the '86 finals. Poland only scored 1 goal in their 4 matches. Scored by Smolarek. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 A bit left field but did Saborio perhaps score at the one world cup he went to? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Stern John scored in 2006 World Cup but it was ruled out for offside (pre VAR) so it might really have been onside. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: A bit left field but did Saborio perhaps score at the one world cup he went to? Very good shout. Apparently scored a hatful in qualifiers but never got a goal in the finals. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 I did look up Chris Wood, he played some part but didn’t score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 I tell you what, I do not have the talent to be a TV cameraman following the game at one of these Cup matches, but if I was assigned the "totty camera" role, scanning the crowd for the nice-looking ladies jumping up and down, I could draw on a skillset developed for decades. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 58 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Do you want to go hung ho and get absolutely battered when we play a good team like when brazil got battered by the Germans,imagine the scenes on here if we got thumped 7-1 or whatever it was Dress it up all you want USA are not a good team. We made them look one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handsofclay Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said: Very good shout. Apparently scored a hatful in qualifiers but never got a goal in the finals. You are right, I recall at the time it being said that Costa Rica were missing their top scorer, Saborio, through injury so I don't think he played at all in the Finals despite his goals getting them there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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