Pele - very sad news

[Lanterne Rouge]

The great man has been in hospital for a few days and it has just been announced that he has been moved to end-of-life palliative care as his bowel cancer has spread and is no longer responding to treatment.

Sounds awful. I hope he can pull through but fear the worst.

[Swede]

That is very sad news.

In my view he is the Greatest Football player ever. That 1970 Brazil team will live on forever.

[joe jordans teeth]

3 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

The great man has been in hospital for a few days and it has just been announced that he has been moved to end-of-life palliative care as his bowel cancer has spread and is no longer responding to treatment.

Sounds awful. I hope he can pull through but fear the worst.

Only one way out from that I’m afraid if true,obviously a great player for Brazil sadly before my time so can’t reminisce how good he was 

[Port Said Red]

1 minute ago, joe jordans teeth said:

Only one way out from that I’m afraid if true,obviously a great player for Brazil sadly before my time so can’t reminisce how good he was 

He was so much further ahead than anyone else at that time, he paved the way for Cruyff and the others. My lasting memory of him was the 70 World Cup, I am still amazed at how he could dominate a game almost at walking pace.

[joe jordans teeth]

Just now, Port Said Red said:

He was so much further ahead than anyone else at that time, he paved the way for Cruyff and the others. My lasting memory of him was the 70 World Cup, I am still amazed at how he could dominate a game almost at walking pace.

Isn’t that what messi is doing at this World Cup,special players can do that 

[Calculus]

Very sad news. The only player to have won three World Cup medals and one of the greatest ever.

[Lanterne Rouge]

I had the pleasure of watching him play for Santos in a friendly at Plymouth in 1973. He was so good.

[Lanterne Rouge]

It`s going to be horrible if he passes during this World Cup, particularly for the Brazil team. It would also, somehow, be strangely fitting if the man who lit up so many tournaments were to go during one.

 

[The Gasbuster]

41 minutes ago, Swede said:

That is very sad news.

In my view he is the Greatest Football player ever. That 1970 Brazil team will live on forever.

It was always the debate in my teens about who was best, Pele or Maradonna.

The debate often found opinions around the 50-50 mark.

No debate however on who was the good guy, and who was the bad.

[Robbored]

Pele is receiving palliative care according to the BBC. 

He was the best player in the world for all of his career and arguably the GOAT, only the cheating shit Maradonna and Messi have come close to that claim.

As a schoolboy in the late 60s I remember Pele in the 1970 WC actually shooting from just inside own half but the ball went wide. He’d seen the keeper off his line………………things like that never ever happened back then.

He’ll be a sad loss to football 

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

Incredibly sad news. For many, especially those of a certain generation, he was and will remain the greatest player ever to have played the game. His star has always been in the acendency not just for his footballing talent but also for his modesty and especially his sportsmanship. Like a number of his generation such as Beckenbauer, Eusebio and our own Bobby Charlton a great ambassador for the sport we all Iove. 

Edited December 3, 2022 by RoystonFoote'snephew
Text corrrection

[steviestevieneville]

 

[Robbored]

An amazing attempt!  

[joe jordans teeth]

37 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said:

Incredibly sad news. For many, especially those of a certain generation, he was and will remain the greatest player ever to have played the game. His star has always been in the acendency not just for his footballing talent but also for his modesty and especially his sportsmanship. Like a number of his generation such as Beckenbauer, Eusebio and our own Bobby Charlton a great ambassador for the sport we all Iove. 

Sadly not a lot of that generation are still with us watching Eusebio and the likes

[Ska Junkie]

The best ever? I think so. I can just about remember him when he went to the MLS towards the end of his career and he was still incredible.

I would suggest Brazilian football wouldn't be anywhere near where it is without Pele.

Ironically, the best Brazil side IMHO didn't include Pele. Was the '82 side better than the '70 side? 

[Lanterne Rouge]

3 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said:

Sadly not a lot of that generation are still with us watching Eusebio and the likes

Is it only Bobby Charlton. George Cohen and Geoff Hurst that are still with us from the 1966 team?

[italian dave]

46 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

 

He couldn’t take a penalty like JET though

Seriously, great video, says it all really. 

[joe jordans teeth]

4 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said:

The best ever? I think so. I can just about remember him when he went to the MLS towards the end of his career and he was still incredible.

I would suggest Brazilian football wouldn't be anywhere near where it is without Pele.

Ironically, the best Brazil side IMHO didn't include Pele. Was the '82 side better than the '70 side? 

Not sure you are right about brazilian football not being what it was for Pele but the 82 side was diamond 

[downendcity]

Literally kicked out of the 66 world cup.

An all time great and a gent from a previous generation.

[Major Isewater]

Pèle is a man who lit up not only football but his country and sport in general. A gentleman. 
All things must end and this legend has made his mark on the world. 
Goodbye and thank you for giving so much pleasure to so many people from all walks of life. 

[Lanterne Rouge]

The 70 side does it for me. Pele, Jairzinho, Carlos Alberto et al along with it being the first WC I really watched and was interested in (I was 7 in 66 and my family didn`t do sport). I think it was the sheer spectacle of it all, the colour and noise.

[David Brent]

Growing up playing football, any attempt at an overhead kick would be known as “doing a Pele” 

[22A]

27 minutes ago, downendcity said:

Literally kicked out of the 66 world cup.

An all time great and a gent from a previous generation.

Correct. After bursting onto the scene in the 58 WC and starring again in 62, opponents learnt Stop Pele, you stop Brazil. By 1970 however, others had come through the ranks to give him support.

It was reported the other day that Pele has been seen entering a hospital, but he told reporters "This is just my monthly check up". If it's terminal, he is still trying not to disappoint fans.

[phantom]

2 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

It`s going to be horrible if he passes during this World Cup, particularly for the Brazil team. It would also, somehow, be strangely fitting if the man who lit up so many tournaments were to go during one.

 

I wonder if it is ironic, but equally fitting timing that this tournament was later than usual but coincides potentially with his passing 

I wonder what the chances are for the renaming of the World Cup Trophy? 

[Robbored]

51 minutes ago, downendcity said:

Literally kicked out of the 66 world cup.

An all time great and a gent from a previous generation.

It was the Koreans at Goodison Pk that targeted him. Back then the referees took no action at all and Pele got carried off injured - that was seen as normal back then.

Edited December 3, 2022 by Robbored

[cidercity1987]

2 hours ago, The Gasbuster said:

It was always the debate in my teens about who was best, Pele or Maradonna.

The debate often found opinions around the 50-50 mark.

No debate however on who was the good guy, and who was the bad.

Not sure I can get on board with that looking at his Wikipedia but I guess everyone is human and there is no all good and all bad

[MC RISK77]

I met him around 2006, got a handshake into a hug kind of embrace from him. Nice guy…. Sad news indeed.

[cheddarwedlocker]

3 hours ago, Swede said:

That is very sad news.

In my view he is the Greatest Football player ever. That 1970 Brazil team will live on forever.

Zak Vyner plays golf?

[spudski]

3 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

I had the pleasure of watching him play for Santos in a friendly at Plymouth in 1973. He was so good.

It's such sad news...so many icons I grew up with are passing away...I guess it comes with age, but it's getting to feel like no one will be left soon. It's certainly an odd feeling.

My mother recently went through the same experience. Palliative care and bowel cancer. Such a drawn out horrible disease. You wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy or those associated with them. 

I can only feel for him and his family. Until you experience it, it just doesn't really hit home how awful it is. 

You were so lucky to see him play. I had a signed Pele programme from when Santos played Fulham the same year as the Plymouth game you saw in 1973. Wish I hadn't sold it now.

Some huge crowds attended to watch Santos and some shenanigans.

Nice article here 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/14/the-forgotten-story-of-pele-and-the-santos-touring-circus

 

 

[Bristol Oil Services]

2 hours ago, Robbored said:

It was the Koreans at Goodison Pk that targeted him. Back then the referees took no action at all and Pele got carried off injured - that was seen as normal back then.

Koreans at Goodison Park?  

[Robbored]

4 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

Koreans at Goodison Park?  

1966. WC.

[View from the Dolman]

3 minutes ago, Robbored said:

1966. WC.

Brazil didn't play against Korea in the 1966 World Cup. 

[Lanterne Rouge]

1 minute ago, View from the Dolman said:

Brazil didn't play against Korea in the 1966 World Cup. 

This. It was Eusebio that the North Koreans kicked lumps out of.

[Bristol Oil Services]

4 minutes ago, View from the Dolman said:

Brazil didn't play against Korea in the 1966 World Cup. 

All look the same, these .....

[cidercity1987]

Robbored strikes again

[Guest]

Sad news indeed for a truly great player; having had a bowel Cancer tumor removed myself 3 yrs ago and so far clear of any spread I can only guess its a matter of luck or timing as to wether its successfull or not.

Hope for better news soon Pele and others going through this terrible big C

[Robbored]

28 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Robbored strikes again

It was Portugal who battered Pele at Goodison - not N Korea. My memory has faded a bit since 1966.

[Rocking Red Cyril]

30 minutes ago, Robbored said:

It was Portugal who battered Pele at Goodison - not N Korea. My memory has faded a bit since 1966.

Wtf is a memory ........I forgot 

[Rocking Red Cyril]

It is always such sad news when any great player passes on. Pele was the first to show many great skills and allowed the game and on coming great players to expand and develop the game in new inventive ways. And his humble nature was always wonderful to see. He will be sadly missed always the greatest in my book.

 

[GrahamC]

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

1966. WC.

 

10 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

It is always such sad news when any great player passes on. Pele was the first to show many great skills and allowed the game and on coming great players to expand and develop the game in new inventive ways. And his humble nature was always wonderful to see. He will be sadly missed always the greatest in my book.

 

Reading this thread is like visiting a care home for the completely ******* bewildered.

Firstly it was the 1962 WC that Pelé was kicked out of (by Chile, so not North Korea or Portugal, 3 completely different continents or in 1966).

Secondly he isn’t actually dead, so why the past tense was used above I have no idea.

Edited December 3, 2022 by GrahamC

[cidered abroad]

The greatest in my time. Went to Wembley in early 1960's to see Brasil but big disappointment as he did not play due to injury.

[phantom]

He's just released this statement 

Which translates to:

"My friends, I want to keep everyone calm and positive.

"I'm strong, with a lot of hope and I follow my treatment as usual.

"I want to thank the entire medical and nursing team for all the care I have received.

"I have a lot of faith in God and every message of love I receive from you all over the world keeps me full of energy. And watch Brazil in the World Cup too!

"Thank you so much for everything. ."

[Port Said Red]

Pele assist (at walking pace of course) in the greatest WC final goal ever. Does he even look for Carlos Alberta? 

 

[stephenkibby.]

2 hours ago, spudski said:

It's such sad news...so many icons I grew up with are passing away...I guess it comes with age, but it's getting to feel like no one will be left soon. It's certainly an odd feeling.

My mother recently went through the same experience. Palliative care and bowel cancer. Such a drawn out horrible disease. You wouldn't wish it on your worst enemy or those associated with them. 

I can only feel for him and his family. Until you experience it, it just doesn't really hit home how awful it is. 

You were so lucky to see him play. I had a signed Pele programme from when Santos played Fulham the same year as the Plymouth game you saw in 1973. Wish I hadn't sold it now.

Some huge crowds attended to watch Santos and some shenanigans.

Nice article here 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/14/the-forgotten-story-of-pele-and-the-santos-touring-circus

 

 

Yeah just your getting old Spud.

I could go on.

[Robbored]

Carlos Alberto is no longer with us. He passed about 6 or 7 years ago.

The fourth goal he scored in the 1970 WC final against Italy was voted as the best team goal in WC history. It’s obvious to see why. 

[downendcity]

1 hour ago, Robbored said:

It was Portugal who battered Pele at Goodison - not N Korea. My memory has faded a bit since 1966.

You should have asked them where they were from! 

[cidercity1987]

1 minute ago, Robbored said:

Carlos Alberto is no longer with us. He passed about 6 or 7 years ago.

The fourth goal he scored in the 1970 WC final against Italy was voted as the best team goal in WC history. It’s obvious to see why. 

Netherlands today was significantly better than that

Different generations I know but 1970s football looks very slow

[Robbored]

1 minute ago, cidercity1987 said:

Netherlands today was significantly better than that

Different generations I know but 1970s football looks very slow

It was 50+ years ago - everything in football is vastly different to these days. Fitness, better coaching techniques and better facilities to name just three.

[Port Said Red]

23 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

Netherlands today was significantly better than that

Different generations I know but 1970s football looks very slow

Not in the final though and against the 2nd best team in the competition. It didn't start with a centre half beating 4 players either.

[downendcity]

1 hour ago, GrahamC said:

 

Reading this thread is like visiting a care home for the completely ******* bewildered.

Firstly it was the 1962 WC that Pelé was kicked out of (by Chile, so not North Korea or Portugal, 3 completely different continents or in 1966).

Secondly he isn’t actually dead, so why the past tense was used above I have no idea.

Think it was.

 

[Red-Robbo]

Sadly, I think he's on the way out.

In Latin America Pele has kept his legend alive by doing a substantial series of adverts for Viagra.

Fair play to the fella, he did the ads, but released a statement - after pisstaking - pointing out "Pele endorses Viagra, but he doesn't have to use Viagra" 

 

[Chairman Mao]

8 hours ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Is it only Bobby Charlton. George Cohen and Geoff Hurst that are still with us from the 1966 team?

Charlton has dementia as well sadly. Given he is our greatest player it will be a truly sad day for English football when he passes.

As for Pele, a two goals in a world cup final aged what, 17? Incredible. 

[ExiledAjax]

Memento mori.

If Pele wishes to live on then I hope he does so, if he wishes to die with dignity then I hope he does so. 

A man who found his talent and transformed it into greatness.

[Davefevs]

Must watch.

 

[BCFC Rich]

3 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Must watch.

 

Haven't seen that before - what a f---in brilliant video.

[italian dave]

On 03/12/2022 at 21:59, GrahamC said:

 

Reading this thread is like visiting a care home for the completely ******* bewildered.

Firstly it was the 1962 WC that Pelé was kicked out of (by Chile, so not North Korea or Portugal, 3 completely different continents or in 1966).

Secondly he isn’t actually dead, so why the past tense was used above I have no idea.

Your first paragraph made me laugh so much I dribbled my morning coffee down my chin!

Second one: I was about to post something very similar a couple of days ago but then I googled it - and actually that Portugal v Brazil game in 1966 is still noted as being both ‘controversial’ and as one where Pele was given ‘special attention’ and left the game injured. So to some extent both are true (not the N Korea bit though!).

And on your third paragraph, yes, it does seem a bit premature…. I’m a believer that people at that stage of life can decide to a point how long they want to keep going and when to give in to it - and I’d imagine Pele would want to see Brazil lift the World Cup. So it’s perhaps premature to be talking in the past tense. On the other hand, I’m sure I heard Klinsmann on TV the other night when it was announced make some comment along the lines of wishing Pele well and that he’d recover soon - which somehow seemed equally inappropriate. 

[Major Isewater]

8 minutes ago, italian dave said:

Your first paragraph made me laugh so much I dribbled my morning coffee down my chin!

Second one: I was about to post something very similar a couple of days ago but then I googled it - and actually that Portugal v Brazil game in 1966 is still noted as being both ‘controversial’ and as one where Pele was given ‘special attention’ and left the game injured. So to some extent both are true (not the N Korea bit though!).

And on your third paragraph, yes, it does seem a bit premature…. I’m a believer that people at that stage of life can decide to a point how long they want to keep going and when to give in to it - and I’d imagine Pele would want to see Brazil lift the World Cup. So it’s perhaps premature to be talking in the past tense. On the other hand, I’m sure I heard Klinsmann on TV the other night when it was announced make some comment along the lines of wishing Pele well and that he’d recover soon - which somehow seemed equally inappropriate. 

Hands up , I wrote about the legend Pèle in the past tense because it was reported that he was on palliative care after his operation, plainly speaking he was/is on his deathbed. I would be delighted if he pulls through and once again amazes the world.