GrahamC Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) Just looking at two recent appointments in our division, Liam Rosenior & Kolo Toure. Rosenior has been in charge of Hull for 6 games now, they’ve won one of those. For some on here who just love their win ratios that is 16.67%. Kolo Toure’s first 3 games have seen Wigan pick up one point, that’s a win ratio of 0%, by the way. Edited December 27, 2022 by GrahamC 11 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Just looking at two recent appointments in our division, Liam Rosenior & Kolo Toure. Rosenior has been in charge of Hull for 6 games now, they’ve won one of those. For some on here who just love their win ratios that is 16.67%. Kolo Toure’s first 3 games have seen Wigan pick up one point, that’s a win ratio of 0%, by the way. These things take time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 20 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Just looking at two recent appointments in our division, Liam Rosenior & Kolo Toure. Rosenior has been in charge of Hull for 6 games now, they’ve won one of those. For some on here who just love their win ratios that is 16.67%. Kolo Toure’s first 3 games have seen Wigan pick up one point, that’s a win ratio of 0%, by the way. So could be 3rd time lucky for us! is that what you’re saying? COYR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 24 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Just looking at two recent appointments in our division, Liam Rosenior & Kolo Toure. Rosenior has been in charge of Hull for 6 games now, they’ve won one of those. For some on here who just love their win ratios that is 16.67%. Kolo Toure’s first 3 games have seen Wigan pick up one point, that’s a win ratio of 0%, by the way. They aren't Jason Euell or Andy King though Graham! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinforlife2 Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 In the last 6 games, Hull have picked up 7pts to our 5, Wigan have picked up 5 to our 5. Wigan in their last 3 have played Boro away, Sheff Utd at home and Millwall away. 1pt from those three fixtures is no disaster. Hull's 6 fixtures which have yielded 7 points have included Blackpool (H), Sunderland (H), Watford (A), Reading (H), Cardiff (A) and Millwall (A) of which they only lost 1-2 against Reading and picked up a result against everyone else. I would hazard to say Hulls last 6 results have been largely a lot more positive than ours! We've lost to West Brom, Lost to Stoke, beaten Rotherham, drew with Watford, drew with Boro and lost to Sheff Utd. If we went 6 games with 4 draws, 1 win and a narrow loss, we would be delighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 28 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said: In the last 6 games, Hull have picked up 7pts to our 5, Wigan have picked up 5 to our 5. Wigan in their last 3 have played Boro away, Sheff Utd at home and Millwall away. 1pt from those three fixtures is no disaster. Hull's 6 fixtures which have yielded 7 points have included Blackpool (H), Sunderland (H), Watford (A), Reading (H), Cardiff (A) and Millwall (A) of which they only lost 1-2 against Reading and picked up a result against everyone else. I would hazard to say Hulls last 6 results have been largely a lot more positive than ours! We've lost to West Brom, Lost to Stoke, beaten Rotherham, drew with Watford, drew with Boro and lost to Sheff Utd. If we went 6 games with 4 draws, 1 win and a narrow loss, we would be delighted. Great to have a thread where we can all agree that context behind statistics is relevant and just quoting statistics is of limited value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 46 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: These things take time. The smiths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 27, 2022 Author Share Posted December 27, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, robinforlife2 said: In the last 6 games, Hull have picked up 7pts to our 5, Wigan have picked up 5 to our 5. Wigan in their last 3 have played Boro away, Sheff Utd at home and Millwall away. 1pt from those three fixtures is no disaster. Hull's 6 fixtures which have yielded 7 points have included Blackpool (H), Sunderland (H), Watford (A), Reading (H), Cardiff (A) and Millwall (A) of which they only lost 1-2 against Reading and picked up a result against everyone else. I would hazard to say Hulls last 6 results have been largely a lot more positive than ours! We've lost to West Brom, Lost to Stoke, beaten Rotherham, drew with Watford, drew with Boro and lost to Sheff Utd. If we went 6 games with 4 draws, 1 win and a narrow loss, we would be delighted. Interesting that you think 1 point from those 3 games “isn’t a disaster” seeing as Pearson has already got a point at Boro so presumably you’ll be happy enough if we get beat tomorrow? Toure wasn’t in charge for two of those Wigan games so struggling to see your point. By the way Mark Hudson 14 games in charge of Cardiff he’s won 4, Matt Taylor in charge of Rotherham for 14, he’s won two.. Edited December 27, 2022 by GrahamC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 27, 2022 Author Share Posted December 27, 2022 46 minutes ago, lenred said: They aren't Jason Euell or Andy King though Graham! I’m not sure either are much more experienced than Euell, Rosenior assistant manager at Derby, Toure first team coach at Leicester. I have no idea how Euell would do (none of us do) but would certainly see him as a similar appointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, GrahamC said: I’m not sure either are much more experienced than Euell, Rosenior assistant manager at Derby, Toure first team coach at Leicester. I have no idea how Euell would do (none of us do) but would certainly see him as a similar appointment. Indeed - it was a poor attempt at humour on my part! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted December 27, 2022 Author Share Posted December 27, 2022 Just now, lenred said: Indeed - it was a poor attempt at humour on my part! No worries, any humour is welcome at present. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 1 hour ago, The Swan and Cemetery said: Great to have a thread where we can all agree that context behind statistics is relevant and just quoting statistics is of limited value. I’m just glad to have a thread that starts with some statistics I can follow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 And how did NP do when he first joined? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murraysrightplum Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 New bounce around the ground? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 5 hours ago, GrahamC said: Just looking at two recent appointments in our division, Liam Rosenior & Kolo Toure. Rosenior has been in charge of Hull for 6 games now, they’ve won one of those. For some on here who just love their win ratios that is 16.67%. Kolo Toure’s first 3 games have seen Wigan pick up one point, that’s a win ratio of 0%, by the way. Also Nathan Jones recorded a 3-0 defeat yesterday in his first home game in charge of Soton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 3 hours ago, GrahamC said: Interesting that you think 1 point from those 3 games “isn’t a disaster” seeing as Pearson has already got a point at Boro so presumably you’ll be happy enough if we get beat tomorrow? Toure wasn’t in charge for two of those Wigan games so struggling to see your point. By the way Mark Hudson 14 games in charge of Cardiff he’s won 4, Matt Taylor in charge of Rotherham for 14, he’s won two.. Shows how weird the Championship that one of the wins came away to Sheffield United! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted December 27, 2022 Share Posted December 27, 2022 4 hours ago, robinforlife2 said: In the last 6 games, Hull have picked up 7pts to our 5, Wigan have picked up 5 to our 5. Wigan in their last 3 have played Boro away, Sheff Utd at home and Millwall away. 1pt from those three fixtures is no disaster. Hull's 6 fixtures which have yielded 7 points have included Blackpool (H), Sunderland (H), Watford (A), Reading (H), Cardiff (A) and Millwall (A) of which they only lost 1-2 against Reading and picked up a result against everyone else. I would hazard to say Hulls last 6 results have been largely a lot more positive than ours! We've lost to West Brom, Lost to Stoke, beaten Rotherham, drew with Watford, drew with Boro and lost to Sheff Utd. If we went 6 games with 4 draws, 1 win and a narrow loss, we would be delighted. Out of those I’d of expected 7 points max. West Brom (on a decent run, good squad), Sheff Utd (Top 2), Watford (should be top 6), Boro (new manager and now on a decent run). Real tough league. Even Stoke and Rotherham are no gimmes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Kolo Toure sacked 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) Wow - insane how short that was. Only 59 days in the job. Zero wins in 9 puts the pressure on. Edited January 26, 2023 by Loco Rojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Think that was bad? Richardson got a 3 year deal there in last week of October then sacked by mid November! Think he was probably harshly sacked, doubt they pay huge wages etc, promoted in post administration season and kept them in League One while still in administration and a major fire sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myol'man Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 He lasted 7 more games than Coppell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchred Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Sacked after 9 games! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Damn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richyy66 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Ridiculous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Job for.......? Lampard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, BanburyRed said: Job for.......? Lampard? Yaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 The average expectancy of a football manager's demise is fast catching up with the lifespan of the mayfly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Even Watford give a manager 10 games…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, richyy66 said: Ridiculous... ..that they gave him the job to begin with. They need a ‘dinosaur’ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Just now, AppyDAZE said: The average expectancy of a football manager's demise is fast catching up with the lifespan of the mayfly. Good old Watford, they`ve been ahead of the curve for years and everyone else is only just catching up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Don’t tell Sol Campbell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidal Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Can’t understand why they hired him in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nest Egg Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Was an appointment that screamed failure from the minute it was made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 26, 2023 Author Share Posted January 26, 2023 59 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Kolo Toure sacked Yep, absolutely abysmal appointment. Certain clubs at the bottom (one of them just over the bridge) appear to have no strategy at all. Blackpool last week as well, sack Appleton, approach one of Man U’s coaches (Eric Ramsay) young, progressive, passing football type, then he turns them down & they appoint Mick McCarthy! Not exactly “like for like” is it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Yep, absolutely abysmal appointment. Certain clubs at the bottom (one of them just over the bridge) appear to have no strategy at all. Blackpool last week as well, sack Appleton, approach one of Man U’s coaches (Eric Ramsay) young, progressive, passing football type, then he turns them down & they appoint Mick McCarthy! Not exactly “like for like” is it? Yepp. Along similar lines I had a giggle at some of the favourites for the Everton job. Bielsa, Dyche, Rooney... what a mess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Tried to do a Burnley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Utterly mental. (I’m also kind of annoyed because they’re no longer a guaranteed relegation team). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillies Downs Leeds Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Probably going to be Shaun Maloney who has been Roberto Martinez assistant with Belgium. Ex Wigan player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Open End Numb Legs Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, BanburyRed said: Job for.......? Lampard? He will be cancelling his hotel cancellation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/64361824 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT The Optimist Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 Wow…never knew Kevin Betsy was also part of the ‘staff’ who has also left…remember him anyone in City colours 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Dolman_Stand said: Was an appointment that screamed failure from the minute it was made. Exactly. I’m gutted as I had them as good as down and it’s a worry if they get someone in who’s decent and they go on a run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride of the west Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, DT The Optimist said: Wow…never knew Kevin Betsy was also part of the ‘staff’ who has also left…remember him anyone in City colours I didnt know he was their either. Last I heard he was doing something with england youth and highly regarded as an up and coming coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, pride of the west said: I didnt know he was there either. Last I heard he was doing something with england youth and highly regarded as an up and coming coach. Was at Crawley the start of the season having left the Arsenal u18 head coach position before then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROSEBUD RED Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 How could they sack him? He’s a beautiful human being! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 26, 2023 Admin Share Posted January 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Dolman_Stand said: Was an appointment that screamed failure from the minute it was made. I had exactly the same thought seeing Duncan Ferguson on sky earlier, he hasn't a clue what FGR are all about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted January 26, 2023 Share Posted January 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, phantom said: I had exactly the same thought seeing Duncan Ferguson on sky earlier, he hasn't a clue what FGR are all about Just seen that funny enough l, bit awkward with the Vegan burger, talking about the earth warming up etc. Strange they never asked for Big Dunc's thoughts about the Just Stop Oil protest at Goodison which Dale Vince funded... Oddly enough I have a feeling he'll do alright there, did well enough on a caretaker basis at Everton and Ancelotti tried taking him to Madrid with him so must have something about him coach wise. Also would anyone want to anger him by not putting the effort in? Imagine trying to sack the bloke as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 20 hours ago, Dolman_Stand said: Also would anyone want to anger him by not putting the effort in? Imagine trying to sack the bloke as well He`ll have been so weakened by his new lettuce diet by then that Vince will just have to blow on him and he`ll fall over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Ex forest boss taken over at Cardiff , can’t spell his name. What do people think. Strange decision for me , seems a bit of a panic appointment. If I remember righty with forest , he spent loads of money but the football was terrible & very defensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) Not City related but Hull are picking up a bit under Rosenior all told. Otoh Huddersfield were bottom 3 when taken over and still are. Toure didn't improve Wigan at all, McCarthy just one League game in charge so far so too early to say, Hudson didn't improve Cardiff. None for Critchley so far at QPR bounce wise, Neil with 26 pts from 23 at Stoke isn't exactly stellar. Critchley wasn't sacked. The two exemplary examples following accounts are of course Carrick and Corberan. Edited February 4, 2023 by Mr Popodopolous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Not City related but Hull are picking up a bit under Rosenior all told. Otoh Huddersfield were bottom 3 when taken over and still are. Toure didn't improve Wigan at all, McCarthy just one League game in charge so far so too early to say, Hudson didn't improve Cardiff. None for Critchley so far at QPR bounce wise, Neil with 26 pts from 23 at Stoke isn't exactly stellar. Cardiff missed a penalty today. Could have been oh so different. Shame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Just now, glynriley said: Cardiff missed a penalty today. Could have been oh so different. Shame. Ah a penalty, do I remember those... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, glynriley said: Cardiff missed a penalty today. Could have been oh so different. Shame. Cardiff have been awarded 3 this season & missed them all. For the lowest scorers in the league that’s probably going to cost them, as I think they are now in a dogfight with Wigan, Blackpool, Huddersfield & Rotherham to go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 53 minutes ago, glynriley said: Cardiff missed a penalty today. Could have been oh so different. Shame. I don't mind so much not getting penalties, it means never missing one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Bristol Oil Services said: I don't mind so much not getting penalties, it means never missing one. Evening Gordon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, glynriley said: Cardiff missed a penalty today. Could have been oh so different. Shame. And his lad goes to the same nursery as my daughter. Can’t wait to see him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie BCFC Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, petehinton said: Apparently he said the same when at Forest and they turned it around so this should be interesting if the same happens at Cardiff. Only one addition in January so not a busy one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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