Major Isewater Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 We all know that players move on but which one leaving effected you the most ? I was devastated when SuperBob got given away to West Brom. Our talisman had gone and for bugger all, £300,000 the Baggies had our trousers down. 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: We all know that players move on but which one leaving effected you the most ? I was devastated when SuperBob got given away to West Brom. Our talisman had gone and for bugger all, £300,000 the Baggies had our trousers down. We had our own trousers down given that Bobby Gould said later that they would have been prepared to pay £1m for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Probably the most recent would be Aden Flint and Bobby Reid leaving. Flint played a role in an exciting chapter, just felt like it was ending around then when he left. Doesn’t seem like we’ve had many characters recently. Bobby Reid had an exciting style of play which was great to watch, enhanced most players around him. It’s weird because even though we’ve had better strikers on paper just before and after him, we still never played as good upfront when he was in the team. I haven’t been too bothered about other players leaving since them 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, chinapig said: We had our own trousers down given that Bobby Gould said later that they would have been prepared to pay £1m for him. And that should have been turned down as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) Andy Cole. He was always going on to bigger things (obviously !) We gave him away to Newcastle, £1.75M with no sell on, and Newcastle had him in their team after putting just £50k down up front. We spent the £50k on a part time school teacher called Glen Pennyfather Gutted to see Cole go for a pittance. Edited January 5, 2023 by The Gasbuster 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Mick Harford 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 23 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: We all know that players move on but which one leaving effected you the most ? I was devastated when SuperBob got given away to West Brom. Our talisman had gone and for bugger all, £300,000 the Baggies had our trousers down. I'll never forgive Lumsden for that.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Over the moon when we got rid of Tomlin 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: Andy Cole. He was always going on to bigger things (obviously !) We gave him away to Newcastle, £1.75M with no sell on, and Newcastle had him in their team after putting just £50k down up front. We spent the £50k on a part time school teacher called Glen Pennyfather Gutted to see Cole go for a pittance. Agree with this. We were so naive to agree such a low fee for the country’s up and coming striker, bearing in mind he was our record signing at the time. Seems like a millions years ago now mind 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Clarrie Bourton. Cyril Williams. Roy Bentley. Brian Clark. Chris Garland. Biff. Mick Harford. Sean Goater. Andy Cole. How long you got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: Andy Cole. He was always going on to bigger things (obviously !) We gave him away to Newcastle, £1.75M with no sell on, and Newcastle had him in their team after putting just £50k down up front. We spent the £50k on a part time school teacher called Glen Pennyfather Gutted to see Cole go for a pittance. I’ve probably posted this before, but I heard it was something like a £1m with a sell on, or £1.75m flat??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Just now, Davefevs said: I’ve probably posted this before, but I heard it was something like a £1m with a sell on, or £1.75m flat??? £1.75M flat We got £50k up front and had to wait at least 6 months for the next down payment Daylight robbery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 36 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: We all know that players move on but which one leaving effected you the most ? I was devastated when SuperBob got given away to West Brom. Our talisman had gone and for bugger all, £300,000 the Baggies had our trousers down. *Pedant alert* It should be AFFECTED Major, not effected. 4 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsquirrel Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 my world fell apart when uncle albert left. his character was something ive never seen since. interviews were a must watch. i kept his poster on our dining room wall for years ago but took it down when i finally accepted he liked other teams too 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Sinclair Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Henry McKop 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Joe Bryan. Albert. Matty Taylor. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I’m going to expand this and say that - although I agree with Bob Taylor as a player - the biggest “departure” for me was Big Joe on his first stint. Firstly, if he hangs around, Taylor probably doesn’t go shortly after. Secondly, and more importantly, since I’ve been watching city it’s the only time a manager we had has been poached by another club. And we were on the up. We had a fantastic promotion side, augmented by signings such as Aizlewood in the summer, and were punching at the top end of the championship. Joe had turned down Villa who were an established top flight side and went to Hearts - bloody Hearts! as he saw it his route to the Scotland job. If Joe hadn’t been poached, we’d have gone on and IMO gone up eventually. I think he regretted it and we certainly did. Players leaving can upset you. Jordan leaving is the only example I can think of where an individual leaving fundamentally affected the direction of the club. So it has to be that. Or Marvin Harriott. But probably Joe. 11 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Ryley Towler () 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 5, 2023 Admin Share Posted January 5, 2023 Scott Murray when he joined Reading I just got back from Glastonbury and have never experienced a come down like it 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Andy Cole is my first memory of our best player leaving - an experience I would subsequently become accustomed to - so probably him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) Bob Taylor, Andy Cole, Adam Webster, Darren Barnard, Bobby Reid and soon to be Alex Scott Edited January 5, 2023 by And Its Smith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Gary Collier 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: I’m going to expand this and say that - although I agree with Bob Taylor as a player - the biggest “departure” for me was Big Joe on his first stint. Firstly, if he hangs around, Taylor probably doesn’t go shortly after. Secondly, and more importantly, since I’ve been watching city it’s the only time a manager we had has been poached by another club. And we were on the up. We had a fantastic promotion side, augmented by signings such as Aizlewood in the summer, and were punching at the top end of the championship. Joe had turned down Villa who were an established top flight side and went to Hearts - bloody Hearts! as he saw it his route to the Scotland job. If Joe hadn’t been poached, we’d have gone on and IMO gone up eventually. I think he regretted it and we certainly did. Players leaving can upset you. Jordan leaving is the only example I can think of where an individual leaving fundamentally affected the direction of the club. So it has to be that. Or Marvin Harriott. But probably Joe. Wasn't Pulis poached by Portsmouth? Staggering I know, but I can remember feeling very grateful to Pompey for quite a while. Maybe my memory's finally gone. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Gary Collier Yes both a big loss for us and not the right move for his career imo. A player Don Revie wanted to sign when he was 18 should have gone on to greater things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Paul Agostino. Walked away for nothing. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Loved/love Wayne Allison, but losing Mark Gavin at the time was reasonably traumatic - archetypal tricky winger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) I get effected every time a player leaves us for a team I consider to be no better than us and in quite a few cases a "smaller"club just because they have parachute payments and can outbid us on wages, Bournemouth being the one that p**es me off the most losing Lloyd Kelly to them really got my goat. Edited January 5, 2023 by pillred Punctuation. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 5, 2023 Admin Share Posted January 5, 2023 19 minutes ago, Calculus said: Wasn't Pulis poached by Portsmouth? Staggering I know, but I can remember feeling very grateful to Pompey for quite a while. Maybe my memory's finally gone. He was indeed I've never been so happy to lose a Manager to another club 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted January 5, 2023 Admin Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, pillred said: I get effected every time a player leaves us for a team I consider to no better than us and in quite a few cases a "smaller"club just because they have parachute payments and can outbid us on wages, Bournemouth being the one that p**es me off the most losing Lloyd Kelly to them really got my goat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show Me The Money! Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Shaun Goater probably for me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastonburyRed Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Akinbiyi, Brennan, Barnard. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Jim Brennan. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl00peh91 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I was annoyed we sold Luke Ayling at the time as it felt completely unnecessary, and was the first step in the dismantling of the 2014/15 team 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) Reid in 2018 and Webster in 2019 were both saddening. I think a City side with them both in would have had serious promotion potential but Reid peaked a season too soon from our perspective Edit oh and Eliasson was annoying as we should have developed him into a £10m sale but failed to do so Edited January 5, 2023 by cidercity1987 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifty Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 38 minutes ago, Calculus said: Wasn't Pulis poached by Portsmouth? Staggering I know, but I can remember feeling very grateful to Pompey for quite a while. Maybe my memory's finally gone. Wasn't John Ward poached by Wolves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonRobin21 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Stefan Marinovic, just felt like we didn’t get a proper goodbye. In all seriousness, I remember being devastated as a kid when Leroy Lita was sold. The Bolasie deal was extremely frustrating because you knew he didn’t get a proper opportunity, and then immediately looked brilliant for Palace. Luke Ayling was another, as he could have solved a problem position of ours for years and years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red panda Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Ralph Milne Oops, I might have blown my cover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Believesham Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 minute ago, grifty said: Wasn't John Ward poached by Wolves? Ward was sacked I believe? Fell out with the board over Lennartson from what I understand I was talking to a Birmingham fan mate about this very thing last week - I hadn't realised that the 2 in my lifetime I was bemoaning were the 2 ever (it is a bad thing to have a manager poached, but also a poor reflection on us that we've not been seen as successful enough to have a manager poached). On topic, Goater was probably the most frustrating for me, especially given his success at Man City Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannybluff Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 David seal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porto Red Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 None that bothered me as much as using effected instead of affected 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 I think most have been mentioned now, though not sure if anyone has mentioned Gerry Gow but he along with Mick Hartford and Andy Cole and a few others were either necessary or inevitable. Norman Hunter was a huge loss and was probably one of the main reasons we went down but his top flight days were sadly over by then. In more recent times I think we really missed Bobby Reid in the season after he left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Seeing Bobby tapping his head hurt. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 34 minutes ago, phantom said: He was indeed I've never been so happy to lose a Manager to another club We got compo, and TP had a court case v Gillingham after he left us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodjias Wrist Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Scott Murray. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 Bob Taylor. Shaun Goater. And Jacki - I cancelled my City Society subscription in response and never rejoined! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said: I’m going to expand this and say that - although I agree with Bob Taylor as a player - the biggest “departure” for me was Big Joe on his first stint. Firstly, if he hangs around, Taylor probably doesn’t go shortly after. Secondly, and more importantly, since I’ve been watching city it’s the only time a manager we had has been poached by another club. And we were on the up. We had a fantastic promotion side, augmented by signings such as Aizlewood in the summer, and were punching at the top end of the championship. Joe had turned down Villa who were an established top flight side and went to Hearts - bloody Hearts! as he saw it his route to the Scotland job. If Joe hadn’t been poached, we’d have gone on and IMO gone up eventually. I think he regretted it and we certainly did. Players leaving can upset you. Jordan leaving is the only example I can think of where an individual leaving fundamentally affected the direction of the club. So it has to be that. Or Marvin Harriott. But probably Joe. Agreed. Jordan leaving was a disaster that set us back decades, I'm not sure we've recovered (on the pitch) even now ! Selling Keith Curle to the mighty Reading peed me off a bit. The regret list of players bought is a lot longer than the regret list of players sold ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd73 Posted January 5, 2023 Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Kingswood Robin said: Agreed. Jordan leaving was a disaster that set us back decades, I'm not sure we've recovered (on the pitch) even now ! Selling Keith Curle to the mighty Reading peed me off a bit. The regret list of players bought is a lot longer than the regret list of players sold ! I could be wrong, but I'm sure Portsmouth approached us (poached) to take (of all people) Tony Pulis? For @Silvio Dante Edited January 5, 2023 by RedEd73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 One of the worst decisions ever by a city boss that day at Northampton letting seal play. And people weren't slow in telling ward that after, many were calling for his head. Junior bent another one he let go came back to haunt is to. Tommy and Aaron getting stolen by QPR upset me the most, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Josh Brownhill as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Bob Taylor for me. His departure still hurts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vidal Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Paul Hartley - just got one season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 7 hours ago, Show Me The Money! said: Shaun Goater probably for me. Good one, IMHO it cost us the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_bristol Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 9 hours ago, Major Isewater said: We all know that players move on but which one leaving effected you the most ? I was devastated when SuperBob got given away to West Brom. Our talisman had gone and for bugger all, £300,000 the Baggies had our trousers down. Same player for different reasons. He was my first favourite player. I wasn’t old enough to understand transfers but I do remember being gutted. I actually met him a few years back at some event underneath the dolman I think he told me Lumsden didn’t have much time for him so shipped him out. Got the impression he didn’t want to leave. He also told me he worked in construction after retiring. Great player, top bloke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 JET! Remember thinking at the time, it was like that one relationship that ended when you didn't want it to. (tragic, i know). A frustrating player to watch at times, but one of the most gifted. What a talent he had. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loco Rojo Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Ok, can i be the first to say Ryley Towler? Or is it too soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, RedEd73 said: I could be wrong, but I'm sure Portsmouth approached us (poached) to take (of all people) Tony Pulis? For @Silvio Dante He was, and I’d shut that out of my mind. With Joe he was poached because he’d done well. With Pompey Pulis was poached for reasons I still can’t fathom, and the feelings when he left couldn’t be more opposite. Next game, away at Bournemouth, it felt like a giant weight had been lifted. Edited January 6, 2023 by Silvio Dante 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd73 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: He was, and I’d shut that out of my mind. With Joe he was poached because he’d done well. With Pompey Pulis was poached for reasons I still can’t fathom, and the feelings when he left couldn’t be more opposite. Next game, away at Bournemouth, it felt like a giant weight had been lifted. Yep. Horrendous football. Not sure if it was his last match but IIRC Wycombe at home, late in the game, score at 0-0 they were down to 10 and hanging on, and he takes off Tins and pops on another defender.....I vowed never to go to another match as long as he was in charge that night. Thankfully didn't have to wait too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Robbie turner was told not to go out after the championship decider at twerton. He defied joes orders, the following day called into the office and told he would never play again. Possibly joes harshest decision and he made a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 I don't think any of us begrudge a player leaving for bigger and better things (Brownhill), it’s when heroes move side ways or to a rival it hurts (Goater, Flint etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jersey Bristolian Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Super Bob for me, never understood that move, didn't we get Carl Shut sort of included in the deal or alongside the deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 29 minutes ago, One Team said: I don't think any of us begrudge a player leaving for bigger and better things (Brownhill), it’s when heroes move side ways or to a rival it hurts (Goater, Flint etc). It hurt that Goater left for a club that had been relegated! Whatever happened to Man City? You never hear of them any more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Bob and goats both scored crackers against man utd was so easy for Bob he scored well on his ass in the box! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Davefevs said: Ryley Towler () I'll raise you Dave: Mark Ashton He's been a big player in whats happening in our club. Edited January 6, 2023 by bpexile 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Jersey Bristolian said: Super Bob for me, never understood that move, didn't we get Carl Shut sort of included in the deal or alongside the deal? We sold Shutt when we bought Taylor, not when we sold Bob. I suppose all of those saying Bob regret us signing Dziekanowski then? Because that’s where all the money went. It was well before forums & the like & I loved Bob, but he had lost his place when we sold him, the sublime Nicky Morgan & Wayne Allison were our front two & he was out of form. Selling him proved to be a complete disaster by Lumsden, (just the 100 goals for them in his first spell) but hey, Dziekanowski flicked the ball up in the air a couple of times & stood around watching Shelton work his arse off whilst we got hammered 4-0 at Twerton, eh? I was probably most gutted by Agostino, as he moved on for nothing (early Bosman) & we were pretty rubbish in Joe’s second spell & badly needed him. Edited January 6, 2023 by GrahamC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 19 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: It hurt that Goater left for a club that had been relegated! Whatever happened to Man City? You never hear of them any more. Exactly why that one didn’t hurt for me, obvious why you join a team like that, even when we were incredibly a division above for that season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 9 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: Edit oh and Eliasson was annoying as we should have developed him into a £10m sale but failed to do so His career since doesn't suggest there was a £10m player in there on the other hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted January 6, 2023 Admin Share Posted January 6, 2023 Bob Taylor, you expect players to move on, but the timing and almost dismissive manner of his move was a real low at the time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 29 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Selling him proved to be a complete disaster by Lumsden, (just the 100 goals for them in his first spell) but hey, Dziekanowski flicked the ball up in the air a couple of times & stood around watching Shelton work his arse off whilst we got hammered 4-0 at Twerton, eh? It has always surprised me that Jacki has such a big reputation with so many fans. For all his undoubted skills his contribution to the team was invariably negligible. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 23 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Exactly why that one didn’t hurt for me, obvious why you join a team like that, even when we were incredibly a division above for that season. It was the timing that hurt me. Made sense for Man City, we both had 7 games left . We were 2 points behind Watford with a game in hand and I'm convinced we would have won the League if he'd stayed. Man City were 1 point off the bottom of the table, even with Goaters 3 goals they got relegated. Terrible timing for us, missing the top spot by 3 points. We swapped places with them as we went up, then did the same going down the following year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Suspect the answer for some is Ryley Towler judging by one or two of the meltdowns in the other thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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