Average away followings so far this season

[phantom]

I'm sure someone will be interested in these figures 

[deadredfred]

Ooof me OCD. Sack the graphic designer. Why aren’t the categories consistent?!

[Mendip City]

Just now, deadredfred said:

Ooof me OCD. Sack the graphic designer. Why aren’t the categories consistent?!

Yeah. Looks like Boro take 30k to every away game… when we all know that only The Gas can manage that sort of crowd. 

[Sir Geoff]

Swansea, Cardiff, QPR away still to come for us. We normally sell out all 3 so numbers a bit skewed at present.

[GrahamC]

11 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

Swansea, Cardiff, QPR away still to come for us. We normally sell out all 3 so numbers a bit skewed at present.

Absolutely, look at our first 6 away games;

Hull, Wigan, Blackpool, Blackburn, Norwich & Burnley.

Not exactly local derbies, were they?

[weepywall]

Preston bit of surprise there, higher than West Brom and Norwich, suppose they have a few games on their doorstep tho.

[phantom]

I'm sure there are some that were intrigued to compare 

[Kodjias Wrist]

Well for our 8th season is it in the championship that is really good. Rovers fans be all over that but after a promotion and decent start thats expected. I did expect us to take more to Coventry in all honesty.

[The Swan and Cemetery]

Dragged into another relegation dogfight. Need QPR to give us 3 sides of Loftus Road for a miracle last day escape? 

[Kid in the Riot]

I stuck up for our home support the other day. But have to be even-handed, and obvious excuses aside, those away numbers are not good. 

I wonder if it's as simple as our home attendance has increased so much over the past few years that people just choose to do more home games than away. 

[BUTOR]

3 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

I stuck up for our home support the other day. But have to be even-handed, and obvious excuses aside, those away numbers are not good. 

I wonder if it's as simple as our home attendance has increased so much over the past few years that people just choose to do more home games than away. 

I think it’s as simple as a North West heavy league with mode of our ‘local’ fixtures still to come. Nothing more, nothing less. 

[Kodjias Wrist]

9 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said:

I stuck up for our home support the other day. But have to be even-handed, and obvious excuses aside, those away numbers are not good. 

I wonder if it's as simple as our home attendance has increased so much over the past few years that people just choose to do more home games than away. 

Or just being shit the last few seasons.

[Kid in the Riot]

26 minutes ago, Bouncearoundtheground said:

I think it’s as simple as a North West heavy league with mode of our ‘local’ fixtures still to come. Nothing more, nothing less. 

 

 

Shouldn't be behind the likes of Cardiff, Hull, Swansea and QPR imo. Granted QPR have had a better season, they aren't a well supported club.

[Lew-T]

4 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

Shouldn't be behind the likes of Cardiff, Hull, Swansea and QPR imo. Granted QPR have had a better season, they aren't a well supported club.

I think fans are just bored of City to be honest. Certainly feels that way…

 

[cidercity1987]

Our home support is great and our away is abysmal

Dunno why anyone needs to say anything else or make excuses 

[1960maaan]

6 hours ago, weepywall said:

Preston bit of surprise there, higher than West Brom and Norwich, suppose they have a few games on their doorstep tho.

 

5 hours ago, Bouncearoundtheground said:

I think it’s as simple as a North West heavy league with mode of our ‘local’ fixtures still to come. Nothing more, nothing less. 

 

Very rough calculation , they have 8 games inside 80 miles, we have 3.

[Malago]

2 hours ago, Lew-T said:

I think fans are just bored of City to be honest. Certainly feels that way…

 

We’ve been in this league for 13 of the last 15 years.  There is very little novelty in travelling to the same grounds year after year.

[Malago]

7 hours ago, phantom said:

I'm sure there are some that were intrigued to compare 

Plymouth’s away support stands out. 1486 travelling an average 242 miles per game is outstanding at that level

[real_bristol]

10 hours ago, The Swan and Cemetery said:

Dragged into another relegation dogfight. Need QPR to give us 3 sides of Loftus Road for a miracle last day escape? 

Careful. Those ITK that say we’re already down will be calling you a happy clapper with that kind of positivity  

[Parkwaymom]

9 hours ago, cidercity1987 said:

Our home support is great and our away is abysmal

Dunno why anyone needs to say anything else or make excuses 

Which is strange given that home form has been consistently pathetic whereas there have been some decent performances away. 

[Super]

7 hours ago, Malago said:

Plymouth’s away support stands out. 1486 travelling an average 242 miles per game is outstanding at that level

Superb numbers credit to them

[Super]

10 hours ago, cidercity1987 said:

Our home support is great and our away is abysmal

Dunno why anyone needs to say anything else or make excuses 

Is it really that good?  A lot of ST holders aren't bothering prob around 15k at games recently.

[Bris Red]

7 hours ago, Malago said:

We’ve been in this league for 13 of the last 15 years.  There is very little novelty in travelling to the same grounds year after year.

Unless we are doing well which we haven’t been for the past 3 or so season. We all know that when we are top half / pushing for play-offs in this league we always take big numbers away. It is what it is really.

Can’t knock our home support though. I think relative to recent and past success to still be averaging over 20k at home is fantastic support in all honesty.

[Bris Red]

5 minutes ago, Super said:

Is it really that good?  A lot of ST holders aren't bothering prob around 15k at games recently.

Same for all teams though, every club in the land counts ST holders irrespective of if they turn up or not. 
 

Do Sunderland for an example actually physically get 36 plus thousand week in week out at the stadium of light? I very much doubt it.

[GrahamC]

8 hours ago, Malago said:

Plymouth’s away support stands out. 1486 travelling an average 242 miles per game is outstanding at that level

Phenomenal, I know they are having a brilliant season but their away support is superb even in average seasons.

Really want them to come up, as the West Country’s only other significant club it would be great to renew our rivalry with them.

[GrahamC]

26 minutes ago, Super said:

Is it really that good?  A lot of ST holders aren't bothering prob around 15k at games recently.

We’ve covered this before, those people have paid to go in, so are counted.

Whether they turn up or not (& red button makes a huge difference to night games) their seats are sold.

This is the only metric by which you can judge our gates & they are pretty much consistently at their highest in a very long time.

[RedM]

15 hours ago, Kodjias Wrist said:

Well for our 8th season is it in the championship that is really good. Rovers fans be all over that but after a promotion and decent start thats expected. I did expect us to take more to Coventry in all honesty.

Coventry priced themselves out of it for many didn't they, £20 for child and £33 an adult wasn't it?

[RedM]

8 hours ago, Malago said:

We’ve been in this league for 13 of the last 15 years.  There is very little novelty in travelling to the same grounds year after year.

I've heard a lot of people say this recently, same old grounds over and over. Even the ones that are promoted or relagated into the Championship seem to be the same, eg Norwich and Rotherham etc. Wycombe in the cup was the last new ground for me for quite a while.

[phantom]

22 minutes ago, RedM said:

I've heard a lot of people say this recently, same old grounds over and over. Even the ones that are promoted or relagated into the Championship seem to be the same, eg Norwich and Rotherham etc. Wycombe in the cup was the last new ground for me for quite a while.

Interesting comment, but do people really go because of visiting a ground or go to support their team? 

[Kodjias Wrist]

3 hours ago, phantom said:

Interesting comment, but do people really go because of visiting a ground or go to support their team? 

You missed out the 'For a piss up' option

[Andy082005]

20 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

I stuck up for our home support the other day. But have to be even-handed, and obvious excuses aside, those away numbers are not good. 

I wonder if it's as simple as our home attendance has increased so much over the past few years that people just choose to do more home games than away. 

I just don’t think watching City is as an enjoyable experience as it used to be. We haven’t been very good for best part of 5 years now - the first half of the 2017 season. Since then it really has been terrible . I can’t think of one positive spell since that first half of the season in 2017

Throw the cost of living into the mix as well 

As for the home attendances - I would love to know what the actual number is through the door at the last few home games. 

 

 

[Red-Robbo]

13 hours ago, Malago said:

Plymouth’s away support stands out. 1486 travelling an average 242 miles per game is outstanding at that level

 

Thing with those average mileage figures is they may reflect roughly how far the team coach travels, but not necessarily how far the supporters travel.

A very high minority of City fans live in the historic county of Somerset, giving a higher travel distance for away games (plus factor in the shite public transport in the West Country). Probably City have more supporters in Somerset than they do in historic Gloucestershire, although I'm aware there are plenty there.

For some sides, a big contingent of away fan numbers are exiles who live in more happening places for employment or higher education. Most folk from Plymouth and a high percentage of football-interested Cornishmen support Argyle. The area is economically depressed so many live in other parts of the country, helping boost, no doubt, those admirable away support figures.

[cidercity1987]

10 minutes ago, Andy082005 said:

I just don’t think watching City is as an enjoyable experience as it used to be. We haven’t been very good for best part of 5 years now - the first half of the 2017 season. Since then it really has been terrible . I can’t think of one positive spell since that first half of the season in 2017

Throw the cost of living into the mix as well 

As for the home attendances - I would love to know what the actual number is through the door at the last few home games. 

 

 

We won nine in a row in 2019...

You were probably still criticising everything 

[Lanterne Rouge]

30 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Thing with those average mileage figures is they may reflect roughly how far the team coach travels, but not necessarily how far the supporters travel.

A very high minority of City fans live in the historic county of Somerset, giving a higher travel distance for away games (plus factor in the shite public transport in the West Country). Probably City have more supporters in Somerset than they do in historic Gloucestershire, although I'm aware there are plenty there.

For some sides, a big contingent of away fan numbers are exiles who live in more happening places for employment or higher education. Most folk from Plymouth and a high percentage of football-interested Cornishmen support Argyle. The area is economically depressed so many live in other parts of the country, helping boost, no doubt, those admirable away support figures.

It`s often overlooked but Plymouth is a proper football city and most Plymouthian football fans support them rather than being plastics. I`ve said before that you are far more likely to see Argyle shirts around the place rather than Liverpool/Man Utd et al.

TBF to Exeter, you can say that for them too.

[Red-Robbo]

2 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

It`s often overlooked but Plymouth is a proper football city and most Plymouthian football fans support them rather than being plastics. I`ve said before that you are far more likely to see Argyle shirts around the place rather than Liverpool/Man Utd et al.

TBF to Exeter, you can say that for them too.

 

True, whereas Cornwall has more rugby or glory hunter fans.  Still a fair Cornish support for Argyle however. 

[Lanterne Rouge]

1 minute ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

True, whereas Cornwall has more rugby or glory hunter fans.  Still a fair Cornish support for Argyle however. 

Not really. Cornwall rugby only really gets decent crowds/followings for the county side not the clubs (us v the rest of England mentality? It`s like an international for them!). The club sides don`t get many at all - even the `top` ones like Launceston only get a couple of thousand at best and the ground only has one small stand.

Argyle get a lot of Cornish support and from quite far afield too, places like St Austell, Newquay, Wadebridge, Camborne and Redruth all of which are well over an hour from Plymouth.

I think a lot of it stems from when they were a regular (like us) Division Two side and had some decent fixtures like we did.

[Red-Robbo]

2 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Not really. Cornwall rugby only really gets decent crowds/followings for the county side not the clubs (us v the rest of England mentality? It`s like an international for them!). The club sides don`t get many at all - even the `top` ones like Launceston only get a couple of thousand at best and the ground only has one small stand.

Argyle get a lot of Cornish support and from quite far afield too, places like St Austell, Newquay, Wadebridge, Camborne and Redruth all of which are well over an hour from Plymouth.

I think a lot of it stems from when they were a regular (like us) Division Two side and had some decent fixtures like we did.

 

I'll bow to your Cornish rugby knowledge (aren't Cornish Pirates doing fairly well in the second tier?), but both Cornishmen I've worked with in the past were Plymouth-hating Man Yoo fans. 

[stephenkibby.]

2 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Not really. Cornwall rugby only really gets decent crowds/followings for the county side not the clubs (us v the rest of England mentality? It`s like an international for them!). The club sides don`t get many at all - even the `top` ones like Launceston only get a couple of thousand at best and the ground only has one small stand.

Argyle get a lot of Cornish support and from quite far afield too, places like St Austell, Newquay, Wadebridge, Camborne and Redruth all of which are well over an hour from Plymouth.

I think a lot of it stems from when they were a regular (like us) Division Two side and had some decent fixtures like we did.

Back in the 70s Argyle regularly had decent support from North Devon too, coach loads from the likes of Barnstaple and Bideford.

[Lanterne Rouge]

1 minute ago, stephenkibby. said:

Back in the 70s Argyle regularly had decent support from North Devon too, coach loads from the likes of Barnstaple and Bideford.

They still do. I know quite a few that travel down. They have really benefitted from being relatively successful in a vast catchment area and, unlike a lot of clubs, their fans have stuck with them through the bad times.

[lenred]

28 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

True, whereas Cornwall has more rugby or glory hunter fans.  Still a fair Cornish support for Argyle however. 

Most Cornishmen I’ve met and worked with support Argyle but have always had ‘another team’. Much like the Gas. 

[stephenkibby.]

Just now, Lanterne Rouge said:

They still do. I know quite a few that travel down. They have really benefitted from being relatively successful in a vast catchment area and, unlike a lot of clubs, their fans have stuck with them through the bad times.

Yeah your right, i lived in South Devon for many years and even when Torquay were pushing for a place in the second tier for a couple of years there was a decent Plymouth following in the area.

[Red-Robbo]

3 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said:

Yeah your right, i lived in South Devon for many years and even when Torquay were pushing for a place in the second tier for a couple of years there was a decent Plymouth following in the area.

 

Torquay fans absolutely despise "the phlegm". 

[Bristol Oil Services]

16 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Not really. Cornwall rugby only really gets decent crowds/followings for the county side not the clubs (us v the rest of England mentality? It`s like an international for them!). The club sides don`t get many at all - even the `top` ones like Launceston only get a couple of thousand at best and the ground only has one small stand.

Argyle get a lot of Cornish support and from quite far afield too, places like St Austell, Newquay, Wadebridge, Camborne and Redruth all of which are well over an hour from Plymouth.

I think a lot of it stems from when they were a regular (like us) Division Two side and had some decent fixtures like we did.

Remember someone or other - @Huntstile Red, possibly - telling me he was in Cornwall once, Roseland Penninsula way and got chatting to a local who used to attend Ashton Gate in 76-79 (then stopped, for some reason). If we get a wriggle on and get to the top before the 'Muff we might tap in to some of that far South West untapped glory-hunting,fair-weather, "ooh ,look,  it's a famous team/player," drop us like a stone once we're down potential support that we won’t have any spare seats for should the very unlikely actually ever come about.

[stephenkibby.]

4 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Torquay fans absolutely despise "the phlegm". 

Yeah i know, was in the Torquay end one Boxing Day back in the 70s for a 2/1 United win at Home Park.!!!!

[stephenkibby.]

2 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said:

Yeah i know, was in the Torquay end one Boxing Day back in the 70s for a 2/1 United win at Home Park.!!!!

Just looked it up, was in fact April 71. The Boxing Day Game was in 69 witch Plymouth won 6/0, was also at that one, remember a Mike Bickle  hat trick.

Christ i'm getting old!!!!

[Kid in the Riot]

39 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Not really. Cornwall rugby only really gets decent crowds/followings for the county side not the clubs (us v the rest of England mentality? It`s like an international for them!). The club sides don`t get many at all - even the `top` ones like Launceston only get a couple of thousand at best and the ground only has one small stand.

Argyle get a lot of Cornish support and from quite far afield too, places like St Austell, Newquay, Wadebridge, Camborne and Redruth all of which are well over an hour from Plymouth.

I think a lot of it stems from when they were a regular (like us) Division Two side and had some decent fixtures like we did.

"Only get a couple of thousand"?! That's big support for that level of rugby! 

I remember seeing a lad I know from Redruth at a Bears game at AG a couple of years back. I asked him if he supported Cornish Pirates to which he responded "no chance, I'm from Redruth; they're Penzance!" 

[devoncider]

21 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

Torquay fans absolutely despise "the phlegm". 

I always had TUFC down as hating Exeter over Plymouth. Grew up in east devon and that seemed to be the sentiment among my schoolmates who followed exeter & torquay (early 00s). I think argyle used to chant 'we only laugh at the torquay'. Exeter took some flak from them both 

[stephenkibby.]

16 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

Remember someone or other - @Huntstile Red, possibly - telling me he was in Cornwall once, Roseland Penninsula way and got chatting to a local who used to attend Ashton Gate in 76-79 (then stopped, for some reason). If we get a wriggle on and get to the top before the 'Muff we might tap in to some of that far South West untapped glory-hunting,fair-weather, "ooh ,look,  it's a famous team/player," drop us like a stone once we're down potential support that we won’t have any spare seats for should the very unlikely actually ever come about.

There were plenty from the South Devon football league that i saw at midweek games back then, most going to watch our openents to be fair.

[Red-Robbo]

Just now, Kid in the Riot said:

"Only get a couple of thousand"?! That's big support for that level of rugby! 

I remember seeing a lad I know from Redruth at a Bears game at AG a couple of years back. I asked him if he supported Cornish Pirates to which he responded "no chance, I'm from Redruth; they're Penzance!" 

 

Assuming Plymouth do get back to the Championship, we will see a return of their three-teeth-possessing supporters claiming to be "the best team in the West Country".

As I had to patiently explain to one of their supporters, 'you aren't the West Country, in fact you're only marginally in England'.

With the exception of the Barbican area, it's a very ugly town. A naval base full of discharged seamen....

3 minutes ago, devoncider said:

I always had TUFC down as hating Exeter over Plymouth. Grew up in east devon and that seemed to be the sentiment among my schoolmates who followed exeter & torquay (early 00s). I think argyle used to chant 'we only laugh at the torquay'. Exeter took some flak from them both 

Yep, Exeter first then 'the phlegm', so I've learned. 

[RedM]

6 hours ago, phantom said:

Interesting comment, but do people really go because of visiting a ground or go to support their team? 

Bit of both I think. Mainly to support the team, but when it gets tough and you just feel you are treading water and seen it all before, or worse fearing relegation, then a new ground is a welcome distraction

[maxjak]

Maybe there should be a decibel chart?   As to which away supporters make the most noise, as per their volume?    i used to follow City all over the country when i was younger, and in the halcyon Super Bob day's!!............But wherever we are in the chart, I applaud our away support for their loyalty and commitment in these hard economic time's?...............Hopefully they will see a victory soon?