After Lineker, who next?

[AppyDAZE]

6 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

I understand that but to be fair she would talk most of us under the table when it comes to how a game of football is progressing..........using your logic most of the other male pundits like Redknapp who talks cliches most of the time, despite both him and his old man having been there and done it, shouldn't appear with Souness and Keane!!!

Again, to be fair, that is bullshit.

Football is a simple game and most of us could easy "understand" what is going on in a game without any help (male or female)

I was only talking about the men's game, and having people who have played the men's game being the ones I'd rather hear from.

It's all about opinions, and I respect yours, other than the bit where you say pundits talking fans under the table nonsense.

Edited January 7, 2023 by AppyDAZE

[chinapig]

36 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Gabby Logan is an excellent presenter on all sports covered by the BBC and she doesn’t pretend to be anything else. I find several of the female pundits (Emma Haynes excluded) voices irritating. They rarely contribute anything of interest.

 

Most pundits tend to tell us what we can see for ourselves or give us platitudes like "he should have done better there Gary" and "he'll be a bit disappointed with that" when somebody misses a sitter. Very few give us any tactical insight, things we wouldn't otherwise see ourselves necessarily.

[Robbored]

9 minutes ago, BigTone said:

Robbo, Robbo, Robbo. Nowt wrong with the girls. In fact some make more sense than the boys.

I’ve never had the slightest problem with girls Tone………….

[AppyDAZE]

Just now, Robbored said:

I’ve never had the slightest problem with girls Tone………….

The problem's been the other way around  :laugh:

[SBB]

58 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I’m not a fan of female pundits. Serious emphasis of equality from the BBC.

Laura Woods and Kate Abdo are both really good to be fair. 

[Davefevs]

45 minutes ago, Robbored said:

Gabby Logan is an excellent presenter on all sports covered by the BBC and she doesn’t pretend to be anything else. I find several of the female pundits (Emma Haynes excluded) voices irritating. They rarely contribute anything of interest.

 

Logan, very good.  Obviously daughter of Terry, wife of international rugby player, and an international gymnast herself.  Good pedigree.

[Charlie BCFC]

1 hour ago, Numero Uno said:

Alex Scott will be up there.

Impressed he’d be doing that whilst playing in the prem

[chinapig]

2 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

Again, to be fair, that is bullshit.

Football is a simple game and most of us could easy "understand" what is going on in a game without any help (male or female)

I was only talking about the men's game, and having people who have played the men's game being the ones I'd rather hear from.

It's all about opinions, and I respect yours, other than the bit where you say pundits talking fans under the table nonsense.

If it was that simple I might be able to outwit Pep Guardiola. It looks simple in principle perhaps but in practice it's more complex.

The problem for me is that most pundits state the obvious and don't give us any insight. Just because somebody has played the game it doesn't follow that they are good at explaining it.

[AppyDAZE]

3 minutes ago, chinapig said:

If it was that simple I might be able to outwit Pep Guardiola. It looks simple in principle perhaps but in practice it's more complex.

The problem for me is that most pundits state the obvious and don't give us any insight. Just because somebody has played the game it doesn't follow that they are good at explaining it.

:laugh:  I always think it's odd when you're watching a game on TV and the commentator says

It's hit the bar!

It's on TV,  we CAN SEE THAT ffs

[joe jordans teeth]

1 hour ago, AppyDAZE said:

Easy to knock Lineker because of the politics and stuff, but he is pretty good at his job. 

And anyhow, why is it such a crime to have left leaning views and air them?

I like the guy.

None at all but follow through if you mean what you say

[BigTone]

10 minutes ago, Robbored said:

I’ve never had the slightest problem with girls Tone………….

I've been to the Moorend Spout myself !!!

[David Brent]

Don’t think it has to be a football person. Just as long as it’s not Jake Humphrey or similar. 

Of the current football presenters, I think Mark Chapman is best to take over right now.

But it’s very likely IMO that Alex Scott will be given an opportunity. I don’t agree with that, but in the same way I wouldn’t want Martin Keown to do it. 

 

[chinapig]

1 hour ago, East Londoner said:

Have to agree regarding Gabby Logan, i didn’t watch the World Cup so don’t know whether she’s improved or not but when Alex Scott started on soccer am she was pretty wooden 

Lineker was wooden when he started. It takes a lot of practice and experience to learn a new skill. A bit like having to think hard about everything you do when you are learning to drive until you can eventually do it without thinking about it.

[stephenkibby.]

7 minutes ago, David Brent said:

Don’t think it has to be a football person. Just as long as it’s not Jake Humphrey or similar. 

Of the current football presenters, I think Mark Chapman is best to take over right now.

But it’s very likely IMO that Alex Scott will be given an opportunity. I don’t agree with that, but in the same way I wouldn’t want Martin Keown to do it. 

 

**** Chapman, Manu init.

Has to be our man Pearce. Only chance of us being on MOTD.

[AppyDAZE]

32 minutes ago, David Brent said:

Don’t think it has to be a football person. Just as long as it’s not Jake Humphrey or similar. 

Of the current football presenters, I think Mark Chapman is best to take over right now.

But it’s very likely IMO that Alex Scott will be given an opportunity. I don’t agree with that, but in the same way I wouldn’t want Martin Keown to do it. 

 

But how will she manage it all? What with reading the news, doing the weather forecast, Eurovision, Newsnight, Question Time, Panorama, Crufts, Chelsea flower show. Later with Jools Holland...

Are there no ends to this woman's talents?

Edited January 7, 2023 by AppyDAZE

[Rocking Red Cyril]

Roy Keane and Souness be quite some double act on MOTD.

Think Gaby Logan be best 

[AppyDAZE]

Bradley Walsh

Gotta be ain't it?

Gotta be,  yeah, gotta be.

His face seems to be on my telly every time I switch it on.

Maybe he can team up with Alex.

Edited January 7, 2023 by AppyDAZE

[W-S-M Seagull]

If the BBC were to go down the route of a female presenter like they probably will, then I'd look no further than Laura Woods. Absolutely outstanding. 

Infact I think her name should be right up there regardless of how the BBC define their shortlist. 

[AppyDAZE]

1 minute ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

If the BBC were to go down the route of a female presenter like they probably will, then I'd look no further than Laura Woods. Absolutely outstanding. 

Infact I think her name should be right up there regardless of how the BBC define their shortlist. 

... and a good presenter too.

[Lack of Action Man]

So it seems from reading through this thread, we want Des Lynam and his majestic eyebrows back?

This is an idea I can get behind.

[exAtyeoMax]

2 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

Colin Murray. 

Gets my vote 

[bcfcnick]

A few years back my choice would be Jim Rosenthal - even better than Des Lyman in my view.

I can only assume anyone suggesting Clare Balding has their tongue firmly in their cheek.  She's on everything and ruined Wimbledon coverage.  If the Test card was still around the BBC would put her picture on it.

 

[ukneil]

On the topic of Lady pundits a big up to Karen Carney who was a regular pundit on DAZN Premier League coverage here in Canada land. Extremely knowledgeable and IMHO easy on the ear, very insightful.  Her experience and anecdotes based on playing the women's game worked seamlessly with the incidents from the particular men's match she was commenting on.

No idea if she could 'carry' a show as a presenter but personally think she does a great job as a pundit and columnist. 

[stephenkibby.]

17 minutes ago, ukneil said:

On the topic of Lady pundits a big up to Karen Carney who was a regular pundit on DAZN Premier League coverage here in Canada land. Extremely knowledgeable and IMHO easy on the ear, very insightful.  Her experience and anecdotes based on playing the women's game worked seamlessly with the incidents from the particular men's match she was commenting on.

No idea if she could 'carry' a show as a presenter but personally think she does a great job as a pundit and columnist. 

Don't know about her presenting skills but she knows her stuff.

[AppyDAZE]

21 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said:

Don't know about her presenting skills but she knows her stuff.

I'd say that Karen is certainly my fav of the women pundits.

Pretty laid back and doesn't try to talk the hind legs off a donkey.

Liked her as a player too.

Oh, the other one I like a lot on Skysports is Sue something,   she reports on games  and she is good.

Edit:  Smith

 

Edited January 7, 2023 by AppyDAZE

[AshtonGreat]

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Logan, very good.  Obviously daughter of Terry, wife of international rugby player, and an international gymnast herself.  Good pedigree.

Terry Logan?

[AppyDAZE]

20 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said:

Terry Logan?

Let's have 'em ...

Give us yer favourite Terrys.

No one is gonna top Mr. Cooper obviously, but let's see who comes in 2nd place

For me,  Mr. Chambers of XTC fame.

Used to hit the drums every bit as hard as you'd like to hit ol' Joey's face if you ever had the chance to.

The Terrys, keep 'em coming (a dying name)

Edited January 7, 2023 by AppyDAZE

[Davefevs]

4 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

Let's have 'em ...

Give us yer favourite Terrys.

No one is gonna top Mr. Cooper obviously, but let's see who comes in 2nd place

For me,  Mr. Chambers of XTC fame.

Used to hit the drums every bit as hard as you'd like to hit ol' Joey's face if you had the chance to.

Terry, keep 'em coming (a dying name)

Terry ******* (Viz)

[Swede]

Needs to get rid of that smug comfy armchair approach, so J.Bell and Osi 

[The Gasbuster]

Why not give that *** Rylan a go, he’s been on just about everything else ?

[The Gasbuster]

2 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said:

None at all but follow through if you mean what you say

No need to go that far !

[Port Said Red]

Nobody has mentioned Jermaine Jenas, I thought the BBC were grooming him for that sort of role? He's obviously got the football credentials, but needed to do the anchor style work, that's why he does the One Show etc.

[David Brent]

51 minutes ago, AppyDAZE said:

Let's have 'em ...

Give us yer favourite Terrys.

No one is gonna top Mr. Cooper obviously, but let's see who comes in 2nd place

For me,  Mr. Chambers of XTC fame.

Used to hit the drums every bit as hard as you'd like to hit ol' Joey's face if you ever had the chance to.

The Terrys, keep 'em coming (a dying name)

McCann

And Chocolate Orange 

[Offside]

1 hour ago, AppyDAZE said:

Let's have 'em ...

Give us yer favourite Terrys.

No one is gonna top Mr. Cooper obviously, but let's see who comes in 2nd place

For me,  Mr. Chambers of XTC fame.

Used to hit the drums every bit as hard as you'd like to hit ol' Joey's face if you ever had the chance to.

The Terrys, keep 'em coming (a dying name)

Terry and June.

[IAmNick]

Thread about the next presenter obviously turns into a bunch of blokes complaining about the tiny handful of women around, hahaha, you couldn't make it up

[Lanterne Rouge]

5 hours ago, David Brent said:

McCann

And Chocolate Orange 

Hall

[Oh Louie louie]

Mick chanon took five minutes to say gary lineeeeeeeeeekkkeerrrr. Imagine him commentating at international level with some pronouncing of name's! His good friend Mick Quinn was a good commentator

[Oh Louie louie]

If we were lucky now and again roger Malone would make a poem up, and his joke's well ... Real toe curlers,

[Numero Uno]

7 hours ago, IAmNick said:

Thread about the next presenter obviously turns into a bunch of blokes complaining about the tiny handful of women around, hahaha, you couldn't make it up

Really?

[Bristol Rob]

It's only time for a HMHB song!

Can't believe we got to page 4 and it hadn't already been posted.

 

 

[AshtonGreat]

9 hours ago, AppyDAZE said:

Let's have 'em ...

Give us yer favourite Terrys.

No one is gonna top Mr. Cooper obviously, but let's see who comes in 2nd place

For me,  Mr. Chambers of XTC fame.

Used to hit the drums every bit as hard as you'd like to hit ol' Joey's face if you ever had the chance to.

The Terrys, keep 'em coming (a dying name)

Hatcher

[Oh Louie louie]

Really wild show did quite a few episodes at Ashton park school when I was there, and if anybody doesn't no it it was about animals, not the pupil's. Anyway it wasn't uncommon to see king of the Terry's, Mr nutkins 

[Sir Geoff]

Unless Shearer and Wright are in the studio I fast forward through the endless waffle and just watch the football.

[alexukhc]

Garth Crooks and Mark Lawrenson

[Lanterne Rouge]

11 minutes ago, alexukhc said:

Garth Crooks and Mark Lawrenson

I`d sooner watch Ian Holloway and Joey Barton!

[Robbored]

Colin Murray is a good shout but I reckon his style will be too quirky/flippant for the BBC.

[AppyDAZE]

3 hours ago, Oh Louie louie said:

Mick chanon took five minutes to say gary lineeeeeeeeeekkkeerrrr. Imagine him commentating at international level with some pronouncing of name's! His good friend Mick Quinn was a good commentator

Is this Micky "Fox Paz" Quinn we're tsalking about  :laugh:

[ralphindevon]

12 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said:

Gets my vote 

Having seen a lot of posts for Laura Woods, a good presenter and probably gets lots of votes for other reasons, I was wondering who the equivalent male presenter is.

Maybe you’ve answered the question! 

[exAtyeoMax]

1 minute ago, ralphindevon said:

Having seen a lot of posts for Laura Woods, a good presenter and probably gets lots of votes for other reasons, I was wondering who the equivalent male presenter is.

Maybe you’ve answered the question! 

Definitely not Paddy McGuinness!

[mozo]

10 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

Nobody has mentioned Jermaine Jenas, I thought the BBC were grooming him for that sort of role? He's obviously got the football credentials, but needed to do the anchor style work, that's why he does the One Show etc.

I was just about to write this. Clearly Jenas and by the time Linekar retires JJ will probably be ready.

[Bristol Rob]

10 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

Nobody has mentioned Jermaine Jenas, I thought the BBC were grooming him for that sort of role? He's obviously got the football credentials, but needed to do the anchor style work, that's why he does the One Show etc.

Not sure being groomed by the BBC is what anyone would want.

[Port Said Red]

15 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Not sure being groomed by the BBC is what anyone would want.

Yes, poor choice of words. 

I like JJ though, seems smart enough and comfortable with a cross section of people. Played at the top level, shame his body wasn't up to it, but can talk from authority.

[The Bard]

15 hours ago, Numero Uno said:

If it is going to be a Woman then Gabby Logan is a great shout tbf.

Well ITV use Pougatch for both Football and Rugby. She is the best presenter, male or female and that is the point. Family connections to both sports. Former gymnast. 

[ExiledAjax]

51 minutes ago, The Bard said:

Well ITV use Pougatch for both Football and Rugby. She is the best presenter, male or female and that is the point. Family connections to both sports. Former gymnast. 

I find Pougatch very "Smashy and Nicey". Comes across as desperate to convince you that he's a funny guy who's best mates with the pros. Grates on me personally.

Logan is far more natural and comes across as genuinely wanting to present the sporting occasion to the viewer. She'd be a top choice.

[eardun]

Whoever gets the gig, I hope people give them time. People forget how poor Lineker was when he started out  - very wooden - but he is clearly excellent now.

[Numero Uno]

13 minutes ago, eardun said:

Whoever gets the gig, I hope people give them time. People forget how poor Lineker was when he started out  - very wooden - but he is clearly excellent now.

If it was Gabby Logan or a male equivalent such as Chappers they are already presenters and wouldn’t need time. It’s only an issue if you appoint an ex-footballer to the role.

[clunes]

Kate Abdo is the complete package. Very knowledgeable, good presenter and speaks multiple languages. Don’t know whether she could be tempted away from the US networks though. 

[RedHienz]

Eniola Aluko.

 

 

[YGBjammy]

I think Gabby Logan is the best for the main anchor role. Always great and posing questions and keeping the discussion going from what I've seen

[steviestevieneville]

Alex Scott 100% she is a good presenter, I do genuinely like her. As for the BBC , she ticks all the woke boxes as well . Win win 

[Redinthehead]

19 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said:

Nothing worse than a berk shouting from the rooftops what other people should do 

Said with no irony 

[Maltshoveller]

Just hope it is not Lianne Sanderson 

She must be in with a chance of getting it

due to ticking all the boxes  

[Redinthehead]

47 minutes ago, Maltshoveller said:

Just hope it is not Lianne Sanderson 

She must be in with a chance of getting it

due to ticking all the boxes  

Jesus Christ. The ‘boxes’ seem to really upset some people.

[Open End Numb Legs]

Whoever gets it should be purely on merit, boxes should not need ticking as the studio pundits alongside the anchor give that opportunity if the BBC feel that is what they want to do.

Good call with Alex Scott, knowledgable and easy going.

[SecretSam]

On 07/01/2023 at 20:09, Robbored said:

That’s my issue. Apart from Emma Hayes they’re all pretty wooden.

So it's not the fact that they're women, it's the presenters themselves? 

[SecretSam]

On 07/01/2023 at 20:11, Numero Uno said:

It doesn't BUT the rub is that if everyone is equal and gender is irrelevant then people have just as much right to express an opinion that Alex Scott is shit at punditry as they do Lee Hendrie for example.

That's fine, if that's someone's opinion. But the OP said that he had a problem with women pundits

[Robbored]

7 minutes ago, SecretSam said:

So it's not the fact that they're women, it's the presenters themselves? 

Gender is irrelevant. Gabby Logan is an excellent sports presenter but the majority of female football pundits are wooden. Emma Hayes is an exception - she very insightful and really knows her stuff.

[Bristol Rob]

Give the job to Downsy.

[2015]

James Richardson. Consistently the best Football presenter since the Football Italia days. Good for a one liner. BBC would never want him though, I won't explain the reasons why but it's obvious.

[Numero Uno]

18 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Give the job to Downsy.

If it gets him out of our club I think that's the best shout of all..............then we can move on from the current Births, Marriages and Deaths announcements at half time to something more akin to football.