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6 minutes ago, Pezo said:

I didn't take it any different to what you just said.

The corner has been noisier since the A block lot moved out, I think there are 2 parts to this, less competing songs and a bit of competition for the noisiest area of the stadium.

Totally agree , bit of competition and I think since Xmas I bit of a better feel about the place 

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4 minutes ago, Lew-T said:

Bore off from this thread.

There are people down there trying to make a difference, and to be fair to them, it is making a difference so far. The atmosphere has been good and the results are following suit.

 

I'll reply to any thread I want thank you and do not need your permission. What I said if you care to understand is that there seemed to be more noise today but on TV it does not indicate from where in the ground. I was not being derogatory in any sense but if you have taken offence then that is your rather disturbing problem.

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3 hours ago, The turtle said:

Not sure if it's sound mic, TV , or perception, but it sounds beyond quiet today. About the only thing can hear is the buzz of conversation.

 

Has the move been less effective today?

 

I was in E30 and heard nothing from the A block “Ultras”. On the other hand there was a lot of noise from the standing section at the Dolman / South Stand corner. Strange with the Blackburn fans as they didn’t make a peep except when there was the first goal. You’d think that anyone who traveled that distance to stand in  the cold would be a bit more enthusiastic 

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47 minutes ago, Harry said:

Another odd one today. I sit in the family stand, level with the 18 yard box at the south stand end. 
 

You must have had a great view of Bells disallowed goal - was it offside from your perspective ?

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10 minutes ago, BigTone said:

I'll reply to any thread I want thank you and do not need your permission. What I said if you care to understand is that there seemed to be more noise today but on TV it does not indicate from where in the ground. I was not being derogatory in any sense but if you have taken offence then that is your rather disturbing problem.

It’s just the sly remarks that you’ve made above and earlier in this thread.
 

It’s just unnecessary… but ‘hey ho’

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5 minutes ago, Henry said:

You’re starting to rival Robbored for trolling now. I know you’ve gone through some difficulties recently, perhaps this is how you’re dealing with it ?‍♂️

I have fully supported those who want to sing etc provided they dont impact other supporters. Nothing more and nothing less. I certainly do not "troll" as you like to put it. Maybe it's time that you take a peek in the mirror.

Yes, I've had my own set of problems but I dont need to take them out on others and neither have I.

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4 minutes ago, BigTone said:

Please elaborate 

You are a man obsessed. For somebody who lives in France that clearly rarely goes to games why do you give so much of a shit about people who are actively trying to get the dire Ashton Gate atmosphere going. You are a strange one..

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2 minutes ago, Bris Red said:

You are a man obsessed. For somebody who lives in France that clearly rarely goes to games why do you give so much of a shit about people who are actively trying to get the dire Ashton Gate atmosphere going. You are a strange one..

I have been a fan for 60 years. I was a ST holder for a long long time. I go to more games both home and away than you give me credit for despite living in France.  If you care to read and most of all understand my posts then I fully support those trying to create an atmosphere providing it doesn't impact others. Been there and done it.

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1 hour ago, Lew-T said:

Certainly was in the 1st half. But have to say very good in the second, even when we went 1-0 down.

 

Yes I would agree with that. The first half seemed to drag on forever but the second half was better

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24 minutes ago, BigTone said:

Please elaborate 

Let’s call a spade a spade here - it’s obvious it bothers you for some reason. Any opportunity to subtly knock it you’ll take.

I appreciate you may have concerns about whether people are going about it in the right way re: current season ticket holders.. but that just seems a convenient excuse. What is it *really* that’s bothering you so much?

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1 minute ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Let’s call a spade a spade here - it’s obvious it bothers you for some reason. Any opportunity to subtly knock it you’ll take.

I appreciate you may have concerns about whether people are going about it in the right way re: current season ticket holders.. but that just seems a convenient excuse. What is it *really* that’s bothering you so much?

Exactly what you state

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30 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

You must have had a great view of Bells disallowed goal - was it offside from your perspective ?

I didn’t have a view, but, immediately afterwards, it but NP and the coaching team went toward the tunnel and looked at something on a screen. It could be a Robins TV replay.  Whatever it was they seemed calm afterwards and didn’t make a fuss. 

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10 minutes ago, BigTone said:

Narrowly but offside yes in fairness

I'd like to see an in-line view of it rather than from an angle behind the actual play.

Was the linesman in line with play or just behind it ? NP was going nuts at the linesman for not keeping up with play and yet still giving off side.

I don't care how many TV replays there are from behind the play - that gives a distorted view.

I just feel that NP is probably correct, wrongly disallowed.

Don't get me started on the Wells penalty decision..

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Just now, Phileas Fogg said:

Seems like a convenient excuse to me. You were already knocking it before those issues arose last week. If it was really just that.. I doubt you’d be so persistent.

People can see through it so you might as well be honest - what is it really?

As I have already said, I have no problem with those wanting to sing. Sing Boyzones back catalouge for all I care. Just dont impact on those existing fans with season tickets. I have suggested that taking things up with the club is the correct way forward. Is this so hard to understand? It wont happen this season 100% but maybe next.

Good idea to read what has been written before without a few beers clouding your outlook.

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7 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

I'd like to see an in-line view of it rather than from an angle behind the actual play.

Was the linesman in line with play or just behind it ? NP was going nuts at the linesman for not keeping up with play and yet still giving off side.

I don't care how many TV replays there are from behind the play - that gives a distorted view.

I just feel that NP is probably correct, wrongly disallowed.

Don't get me started on the Wells penalty decision..

Was disappointed but thought offside was correct TBH. You win some we lose plenty. On the upside Sam Bell is one hell of a prospect for our future.

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10 minutes ago, BigTone said:

As I have already said, I have no problem with those wanting to sing. Sing Boyzones back catalouge for all I care. Just dont impact on those existing fans with season tickets. I have suggested that taking things up with the club is the correct way forward. Is this so hard to understand? It wont happen this season 100% but maybe next.

Good idea to read what has been written before without a few beers clouding your outlook.

If you say so.. I suspect that really the thing that bothers you is your perceived implication that those who want to actively support the team and make noise are "worth more" than those who are happy to sit quietly and passively support. This ties into the whole situation whereby you believe those that want to make that end of the Dolman vibrant are happy to push existing ST holders out without any consideration about how they might feel.

If you were prepared to actually discuss that, rather than snipe with a degree of plausible deniability - you'd probably get a better discussion.  

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19 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

I didn’t have a view, but, immediately afterwards, it but NP and the coaching team went toward the tunnel and looked at something on a screen. It could be a Robins TV replay.  Whatever it was they seemed calm afterwards and didn’t make a fuss. 

They were looking for the gas score but didn’t realise it was Siberia weather in north Bristol and the championship elect teams game had been postponed ??

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16 minutes ago, BigTone said:

Was disappointed but thought offside was correct TBH. You win some we lose plenty. On the upside Sam Bell is one hell of a prospect for our future.

He's making a lot more of an impact than I expected tbh.

Tinnion said he was at the same level as Conway which I doubted. Its why he's doing what he's doing while I utter complete crap.

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5 minutes ago, Snufflelufagus said:

Condos to A block. They are making the effort,? 

Condos is an American term that refers to  “ a unit in a multiunit structure (such as an apartment building) or on land owned in common (such as a town house complex)” Is this post a version of the famous Unan post? 

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14 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

If you say so.. I suspect that really the thing that bothers you is your perceived implication that those who want to actively support the team and make noise are "worth more" than those who are happy to sit quietly and passively support. This ties into the whole situation whereby you believe those that want to make that end of the Dolman vibrant are happy to push existing ST holders out without any consideration about how they might feel.

If you were prepared to actually discuss that, rather than snipe with a degree of plausible deniability - you'd probably get a better discussion.  

You’re wasting your time mate.

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6 minutes ago, bcfc01 said:

He's making a lot more of an impact than I expected tbh.

Tinnion said he was at the same level as Conway which I doubted. Its why he's doing what he's doing while I utter complete crap.

There were a couple of one-touch link-ups with Wells today that looked promising (one offside).

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18 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

If you say so.. I suspect that really the thing that bothers you is your perceived implication that those who want to actively support the team and make noise are "worth more" than those who are happy to sit quietly and passively support. This ties into the whole situation whereby you believe those that want to make that end of the Dolman vibrant are happy to push existing ST holders out without any consideration about how they might feel.

If you were prepared to actually discuss that, rather than snipe with a degree of plausible deniability - you'd probably get a better discussion.  

You are 100% correct. It's not me not prepared to have the discussion though is it. What you identify is what is happening.  All for what you want but i for one respects others and believe there is a process to be followed.

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28 minutes ago, BigTone said:

You are 100% correct. It's not me not prepared to have the discussion though is it. What you identify is what is happening.  All for what you want but i for one respects others and believe there is a process to be followed.

Just be transparent then - at least allows a bit of discussion. I don’t see anyone disagreeing that there needs to be a process?

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5 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Just be transparent then - at least allows a bit of discussion. I don’t see anyone disagreeing that there needs to be a process?

You dont ? Why then is there no process in place ?

Please identify any dialogue you are having with the club in this regard. I doubt there is any but please confirm otherwise.

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38 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

Condos is an American term that refers to  “ a unit in a multiunit structure (such as an apartment building) or on land owned in common (such as a town house complex)” Is this post a version of the famous Unan post? 

Sorry I'm drunk. Simply was trying to say far play for A block for making an effort to make an atmosphere. I will do more English research next time before posting.

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54 minutes ago, Snufflelufagus said:

Sorry I'm drunk. Simply was trying to say far play for A block for making an effort to make an atmosphere. I will do more English research next time before posting.

Seems you enjoyed hospitality a bit too much today ?

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2 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

You must have had a great view of Bells disallowed goal - was it offside from your perspective ?

Yep. I thought it looked like Bell was just beyond the full back, but I wasn’t sure if there was another defender in the middle playing him on as I was too busy watching the pass through. 

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1 hour ago, BigTone said:

You dont ? Why then is there no process in place ?

Please identify any dialogue you are having with the club in this regard. I doubt there is any but please confirm otherwise.

I’m nothing to do with it, when I attend I sit in a totally different part of the stadium! I just think your sniping is a bit petty and needless.

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I’m in B block and whilst I’m all for the attempt to generate a bit more atmosphere I didn’t think today was as good as last week- may be due to a slower performance 1st half I guess 

Most activity seemed to focus around chucking someone’s hat about and singing how much of a sh1tehole Blackburn is

Am looking forward to next Saturday though as assume many more tickets will have been bought by those looking to make a move there longer term and the large amount from WBA should hopefully liven things up a bit more too

 

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Just now, 54-46 said:

I’m in B block and whilst I’m all for the attempt to generate a bit more atmosphere I didn’t think today was as good as last week- may be due to a slower performance 1st half I guess 

Most activity seemed to focus around chucking someone’s hat about and singing how much of a sh1tehole Blackburn is

Am looking forward to next Saturday though as assume many more tickets will have been bought by those looking to make a move there longer term and the large amount from WBA should hopefully liven things up a bit more too

 

Also the fact there was only 1k blackburn fans, and they were stuck in the middle of the stand. No back and forth to enlighten the mood aha.

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3 hours ago, BigTone said:

You dont ? Why then is there no process in place ?

Please identify any dialogue you are having with the club in this regard. I doubt there is any but please confirm otherwise.

I wonder if anyone that is part of the A block ultras is actually on the forum. Most people on the forum seem upwards of 40 and the average in A block is probably 16 - they probably don't even know this forum exists to answer your questions @BigTone.

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6 hours ago, Harry said:

Yep. I’m not in any way slagging off the move to A Block. I’m all for it and always have been. Just saying that our stadium can be a bit weird at times in terms of what you can and can’t hear depending on where you are. 
I’m pretty much equidistant to A Block and S82, but both the last 2 games I’ve only heard S82. 
Which again is odd, because for the previous few games prior to that, there was nothing coming from S82 at all! It’s all very odd! 

You’re right since the E34 location of singers s82 has become much louder and maybe see it as a challenge, I sit 2 blocks away from s82 defiantly louder then usual last 2 games, that said songs are spreading there is a group of guys in s24/25 who are staring songs regularly and they’re getting louder also. Long May it continue. COYR. 

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39 minutes ago, Pezo said:

I wonder if anyone that is part of the A block ultras is actually on the forum. Most people on the forum seem upwards of 40 and the average in A block is probably 16 - they probably don't even know this forum exists to answer your questions @BigTone.

How widely read, known, representative this place is who knows but it might be worth trying to get someone from there onto here to debate the issues, answer a few qs and try to.assuage concerns or similar of other fans.

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11 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

How widely read, known, representative this place is who knows but it might be worth trying to get someone from there onto here to debate the issues, answer a few qs and try to.assuage concerns or similar of other fans.

I guess the juxtaposition to this is why would they give a shit? This place is (at a guess) 30, opinionated, mainly blokes, that are upwards of 40 years old that chat to each other on what is somewhat outdated medium with probably another 100 or so chipping in and maybe a thousand watching when something interesting happens like a manager getting sacked/player being bought/sold.

IMHO if anyone really wants to ask them questions they should go and ask them questions where they are (twitter, Instagram, Facebook ect) not bekon them to us like we are the royal OTIB. Especially as the concerns (valid as they are) seem to being raised by small minority that haven't been affected some of which don't even go to games - I'm not sure what the outcome would be, probably something like "officially they don't want to upset the existing people in the A block and don't support people entering without a ticket but they don't control everyone entering the A block, that's a club matter who they let in"?

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16 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Quite enjoyed it since they've buggered off. S82 singing more traditional songs rather than the 'ultra songs'

 

Have to say that from my perspective (moany old git sat mid way between the two) all the noise and atmosphere yesterday came from S82. I didn’t hear anything from A block - it just seemed like a bunch of people determined to stand up. 

I’m not sure how you define ‘traditional’ and ‘ultra’ songs, but for me the support from S82 yesterday was much more what I’d define as ‘ultra’ - support for the club and its players as opposed to endless dreary songs goading opposing fans. And all the better for it. S82 was really good yesterday. 

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35 minutes ago, Pezo said:

I guess the juxtaposition to this is why would they give a shit? This place is (at a guess) 30, opinionated, mainly blokes, that are upwards of 40 years old that chat to each other on what is somewhat outdated medium with probably another 100 or so chipping in and maybe a thousand watching when something interesting happens like a manager getting sacked/player being bought/sold.

IMHO if anyone really wants to ask them questions they should go and ask them questions where they are (twitter, Instagram, Facebook ect) not bekon them to us like we are the royal OTIB. Especially as the concerns (valid as they are) seem to being raised by small minority that haven't been affected some of which don't even go to games - I'm not sure what the outcome would be, probably something like "officially they don't want to upset the existing people in the A block and don't support people entering without a ticket but they don't control everyone entering the A block, that's a club matter who they let in"?

Fully their choice, although.

Well I seem to recall a few years back there was a BCFCS82 account or similar. A second one too maybe?

I take your point, it is one forum and obviously official line will say the right things and intend the right things, but a wider dialogue given the Birmingham game could be useful.

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Too much bickering going on we’re all city fans together and I like what the youth are doing , after all they are the majority and also the future ( was stated at meeting at hen and chicken that we have 9000 under 18 season ticket holders ) if these lads want to relocate and seats are available then that’s it they can so let’s leave it at that ,smile about it and even join in you never know you may like it COYR 

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15 minutes ago, Magger1 said:

Too much bickering going on we’re all city fans together and I like what the youth are doing , after all they are the majority and also the future ( was stated at meeting at hen and chicken that we have 9000 under 18 season ticket holders ) if these lads want to relocate and seats are available then that’s it they can so let’s leave it at that ,smile about it and even join in you never know you may like it COYR 

9000 under 18 season ticket holders? 
i find that astonishing if that’s correct? 
not knocking it at all by the way 

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13 hours ago, mightyreds89 said:

You’re right since the E34 location of singers s82 has become much louder and maybe see it as a challenge, I sit 2 blocks away from s82 defiantly louder then usual last 2 games, that said songs are spreading there is a group of guys in s24/25 who are staring songs regularly and they’re getting louder also. Long May it continue. COYR. 

Pardon I can’t hear you ???.    I’m here all week 

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18 minutes ago, Club and Country said:

9000 under 18 season ticket holders? 
i find that astonishing if that’s correct? 
not knocking it at all by the way 

Thought it was 6k, but if its 9k then all the better - wouldn't that out number regular SC holders ?

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20 hours ago, pongo88 said:

Condos is an American term that refers to  “ a unit in a multiunit structure (such as an apartment building) or on land owned in common (such as a town house complex)” Is this post a version of the famous Unan post? 

He clearly meant “Kouros” the aftershave that was big in the 90s. 

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3 hours ago, italian dave said:

Have to say that from my perspective (moany old git sat mid way between the two) all the noise and atmosphere yesterday came from S82. I didn’t hear anything from A block - it just seemed like a bunch of people determined to stand up. 

I’m not sure how you define ‘traditional’ and ‘ultra’ songs, but for me the support from S82 yesterday was much more what I’d define as ‘ultra’ - support for the club and its players as opposed to endless dreary songs goading opposing fans. And all the better for it. S82 was really good yesterday. 

 

I possibly sit a bit nearer "A block" - in the old "C block". I could hear a definite improvement in noise levels. 

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17 hours ago, Lewisdabaron said:

 

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Tallies with what I heard last week - that the club are far more amenable to this than some would think and expect. The club just want it done safely and fairly and within the rules and regulations.

3 hours ago, Magger1 said:

9000 under 18 season ticket holders

I've heard differently and separately from the Club that we have numbers as below.

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3 hours ago, Magger1 said:

Too much bickering going on we’re all city fans together and I like what the youth are doing , after all they are the majority and also the future ( was stated at meeting at hen and chicken that we have 9000 under 18 season ticket holders ) if these lads want to relocate and seats are available then that’s it they can so let’s leave it at that ,smile about it and even join in you never know you may like it COYR 

'Over 3.5k U.19 & U.12, season tickets sold', though that's still a very healthy number imo.

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/young-season-tickets-in-demand/

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37 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

Tallies with what I heard last week - that the club are far more amenable to this than some would think and expect. The club just want it done safely and fairly and within the rules and regulations.

I've heard differently and separately from the Club that we have numbers as below.

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"The club are far more amenable to this than some would think and expect. The club just want it done safely and fairly and within the rules and regulations"

Exactly what I was told yesterday by a key decision maker at the club. General recognition that initiatives like this are welcome and they are happy to work with fans. But safety will always be paramount, and existing ST holders have to be considered too.

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10 minutes ago, Dave L said:

"The club are far more amenable to this than some would think and expect. The club just want it done safely and fairly and within the rules and regulations"

Exactly what I was told yesterday by a key decision maker at the club. General recognition that initiatives like this are welcome and they are happy to work with fans. But safety will always be paramount, and existing ST holders have to be considered too.

I suspect we heard from the same key person.

It's good to hear that a dialogue has begun.

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48 minutes ago, Dave L said:

"The club are far more amenable to this than some would think and expect. The club just want it done safely and fairly and within the rules and regulations"

Exactly what I was told yesterday by a key decision maker at the club. General recognition that initiatives like this are welcome and they are happy to work with fans. But safety will always be paramount, and existing ST holders have to be considered too.

 

38 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

I suspect we heard from the same key person.

It's good to hear that a dialogue has begun.

I would be interested to know, given some of my past concerns which I hope were misplaced, would the SGSA and to a greater extent SAG be on board?

The former have often seemed more enlightened than the SAG in this city or would this still be subject to further haggling/approval from SAG in particular.

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