Who is the hardest working city player in recent times ?

[The Humble Realist]

Would be interested if @Davefevs has any data for distance run perhaps but as fans we all love someone who gives their all for the team even if they dont have the ability to match their peers. 

Who are the players who you think have always given their all (with or without the ability to match)?

For me

Josh Brownhill- the guy regularly was blowing on 85 mins but was still sprinting or at least trying to! He never seemed to stop. If only we had him in midfield now!

John stead- always ran his socks off, pressing,  closing down. Would often be running back to try and help the midfield too 

Andi weimann- if there is one thing everyone agrees on about weiman here and everywhere else he has been is that he will always put the work in. Never seems to stop regardless of the position he plays 

[Oh Louie louie]

Marvin Elliot for me he could get up and down

[spudski]

2 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said:

Would be interested if @Davefevs has any data for distance run perhaps but as fans we all love someone who gives their all for the team even if they dont have the ability to match their peers. 

Who are the players who you think have always given their all (with or without the ability to match)?

For me

Josh Brownhill- the guy regularly was blowing on 85 mins but was still sprinting or at least trying to! He never seemed to stop. If only we had him in midfield now!

John stead- always ran his socks off, pressing,  closing down. Would often be running back to try and help the midfield too 

Andi weimann- if there is one thing everyone agrees on about weiman here and everywhere else he has been is that he will always put the work in. Never seems to stop regardless of the position he plays 

Whilst I understand the gist of your post, running around a lot doesn't mean anything, unless it's constructive and positive. 

Someone may run a lot because they are constantly correcting their positioning.

You have to use your brain just as much as your legs to read a game.

Some of the very top players will stand still on occasion, and let others run, freeing up space for themselves. 

Even moving towards where the referee is stood is a clever move. 

[Red-Robbo]

Bobby Reid put some yards in. Especially when moved to a more natural attacking role. 

[Super]

JET

[Davefevs]

I don’t have any physical data I’m afraid.

[Globe Trotter]

Neil Kilkenny for me 

[The Humble Realist]

4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I don’t have any physical data I’m afraid.

Thanks for the reply. That's a shame. Obviously distance run isnt perfect but would be interesting. I wonder if JET even ran a mile !

[Davefevs]

8 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said:

Thanks for the reply. That's a shame. Obviously distance run isnt perfect but would be interesting. I wonder if JET even ran a mile !

I was hoping to get some of this from the club, but it hasn’t materialised.

[Red-Robbo]

10 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said:

 I wonder if JET even ran a mile !

 

If he did, it was walked. 

[BCFCGav]

Yea as OP mentioned, Weimann is the first to mind for me. He'll have played 93 minutes and you'll see him run three quarters of the field to held defend a counter and it's just like... how? Machine.  

[alexukhc]

Martin Scott

[Super]

Current crop probably Conway and Weimann.

[redkev]

4 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said:

 

If he did, it was walked. 

After that goal against the gas he should never need to walk or run again , 

he should be carried aloft like a messiah

[Leveller]

27 minutes ago, Globe Trotter said:

Neil Kilkenny for me 

All that pointing was bloody hard on the arms, mind.

[Red white and red]

Darren Caskey. 

[petehinton]

IIRC we had to tell Jon Stead to stop covering as much ground as he was in games due to injury risk, which must be a first for many clubs 

[hinsleburg]

For me it's Weimann

Not just in terms of distance covered but the intelligence of his movement and runs.

I think work rate is often stereotyped as just 'who runs the most' but I'd be interested in seeing 'number of sprints' as think that's a much better metric, as alluded to above somebody could probably amble about for 90 minutes and cover a good chunk of ground without working too hard. But Weimann has the ability to go 100% right until the end constantly making runs and pressing, think he's a freak in the best possible way! Constantly harassing opposition and officials as well as covering team mates where needed, very lucky to have had him for so long and think we are a better side with him in it!

Agree with the Stead shout above as well for similar reasons, I think what was in some ways more impressive about Stead was physically he's not as well built for it compared to people like Weimann

[Charlie BCFC]

Lee Tomlin

[The Humble Realist]

28 minutes ago, petehinton said:

IIRC we had to tell Jon Stead to stop covering as much ground as he was in games due to injury risk, which must be a first for many clubs 

Wouldnt surprise me at all. Always very popular with the fans for the effort he put in.

Wiilbraham always put a lot of work in too but is unfairly remembered in my opinion by many for 10minute cameos when we were chasing a goal. He really ran his socks off in the league one campaign 

[Davefevs]

58 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

I was hoping to get some of this from the club, but it hasn’t materialised.

@The Humble Realistjust to clarify…licensing issues.

[Oh Louie louie]

Gi once subbed byfield in the first half he said he was covering too much ground, was against Cardiff I think

[Cowshed]

13 minutes ago, hinsleburg said:

For me it's Weimann

Not just in terms of distance covered but the intelligence of his movement and runs.

I think work rate is often stereotyped as just 'who runs the most' but I'd be interested in seeing 'number of sprints' as think that's a much better metric, as alluded to above somebody could probably amble about for 90 minutes and cover a good chunk of ground without working too hard. But Weimann has the ability to go 100% right until the end constantly making runs and pressing, think he's a freak in the best possible way! Constantly harassing opposition and officials as well as covering team mates where needed, very lucky to have had him for so long and think we are a better side with him in it!

Agree with the Stead shout above as well for similar reasons, I think what was in some ways more impressive about Stead was physically he's not as well built for it compared to people like Weimann

I don't have the metrics, but players barely sprint in games. What’s is measured as sprints are not sprints, and that is around 1% of the game. Sprinting is what is known as actualisation, actualisation is where sprinting speed is reached, and this occurs after approximately sixty metres of acceleration in a straight line. Footballers generally do not run in straight lines, rarely if ever for sixty metres and the overwhelming majority of movements in any direction/directions are less than twenty metres.

Players as a collective average do around 1,400 changes of direction.

Players walk more than they sprint. Its around 36%. Standinmg still is 18%. Jog 16%. Low speed running 15%. Moderate speed running 10%. High  running 2%. Jumping 2%. Sprinting 1%. The source there is Richard Bate former FA technical director, and Sport Dimensions development.. 

[Curr Avon]

1 hour ago, The Humble Realist said:

Would be interested if @Davefevs has any data for distance run perhaps but as fans we all love someone who gives their all for the team even if they dont have the ability to match their peers. 

Who are the players who you think have always given their all (with or without the ability to match)?

For me

Josh Brownhill- the guy regularly was blowing on 85 mins but was still sprinting or at least trying to! He never seemed to stop. If only we had him in midfield now!

John stead- always ran his socks off, pressing,  closing down. Would often be running back to try and help the midfield too 

Andi weimann- if there is one thing everyone agrees on about weiman here and everywhere else he has been is that he will always put the work in. Never seems to stop regardless of the position he plays 

Glenn Pennyfarthing, had to ride to all the games. Legend.

[RedRoss]

Now would be Weimann and Conway, before it would of been Bobby Reid from recent memory.

[ExiledAjax]

For a couple of seasons it was Dan bloody Bentley.

[Mr Popodopolous]

Imagine the press potential with Reid and Weimann together! Both as a pair and perhaps one dropping off a bit out of possession.

Reid and Weimann are/have been right up there without doubt.

[Sweeneys Penalties]

These days Andi Weimann. In older days Bobby Reid and before that, Shelts

[chalkeyred]

1 hour ago, spudski said:

Whilst I understand the gist of your post, running around a lot doesn't mean anything, unless it's constructive and positive. 

Someone may run a lot because they are constantly correcting their positioning.

You have to use your brain just as much as your legs to read a game.

Some of the very top players will stand still on occasion, and let others run, freeing up space for themselves. 

Even moving towards where the referee is stood is a clever move. 

Of those I've seen first hand, Messi and Modric were / are exceptional at that - plus very short bursts from that space, creating goals...

[chalkeyred]

Junior Bent ran around a lot....

[Bristol Oil Services]

2 hours ago, The Humble Realist said:

Would be interested if @Davefevs has any data for distance run perhaps but as fans we all love someone who gives their all for the team even if they dont have the ability to match their peers. 

Who are the players who you think have always given their all (with or without the ability to match)?

For me

Josh Brownhill- the guy regularly was blowing on 85 mins but was still sprinting or at least trying to! He never seemed to stop. If only we had him in midfield now!

John stead- always ran his socks off, pressing,  closing down. Would often be running back to try and help the midfield too 

Andi weimann- if there is one thing everyone agrees on about weiman here and everywhere else he has been is that he will always put the work in. Never seems to stop regardless of the position he plays 

You don't need "data," mate, you just need to know which one is "the first in in the morning, and the last to leave," and the one that stays out on the training pitch to practice a few more dead balls after all the others have gone inside.

[Lordofthebling]

Adomah, Weimann, Brownhill and Elliott the names that spring to mind.

[David Brent]

Defenders don’t run around like Midfield and Attackers but can’t think of many who worked harder than Louis

[Moulin Rougier]

Tony Dinning for me. Great engine on him. Prior to the permanent move of course. Once we were actually paying his contract, I don't think he moved out of the centre circle.

[spudski]

I think I read somewhere that players average 7 miles per game. And refs slightly more.

[Mad Cyril]

Is it less important to measure time spent sprinting, instead look at how fast and in which direction?

E.G. Ivan Sproule vs Southampton - nearly broke the sound barrier, but nearly ended up down the Atyeo tunnel.

[Davefevs]

24 minutes ago, David Brent said:

Defenders don’t run around like Midfield and Attackers but can’t think of many who worked harder than Louis

Here’s some stuff I found a while back.

 

[ExiledAjax]

@Davefevs The bottom image. Bielsa's Leeds  

[BrizzleRed]

36 minutes ago, Mad Cyril said:

Is it less important to measure time spent sprinting, instead look at how fast and in which direction?

E.G. Ivan Sproule vs Southampton - nearly broke the sound barrier, but nearly ended up down the Atyeo tunnel.

Now that must be the closest City have ever been to putting a shirt on a headless chicken!

[pongo88]

The OP didn’t specify that the person had to be just playing to qualify, so I nominate Terry Cooper. When he was player manager, and City was in Division 4, as well as playing, managing, scouting and coaching he did endless odd jobs in and around the ground. When he signed Alan Walsh from Darlington even drove a van there to help move his furniture to Bristol 

[RedHienz]

Neil Kilkenny.

[Oh Louie louie]

Mike Gibson used to jog the whole of the pill cycle path and back I reckon still in the mid 90s, another hard worker off the pitch

[Kingswood Robin]

In recent times Weimann, Brownhill, Reid and Joe Bryan stand out I think. 

Wasn't here for long but Wade Elliott worked hard as did his namesake Marvin at his peak.

Going back further Shelton, Owers and Scott were pretty industrious. 

[cider hoss rules]

Distant memory, but Wade Elliott and Aaron Wilbraham always seemed to be everywhere on the pitch.

Edited January 24, 2023 by cider hoss rules

[stortfordred]

6 hours ago, Charlie BCFC said:

Lee Tomlin

Only comes second in the Neil Shipperley I Cannot Be Arsed Award

 

The winner...Neil Shipperley

[Offside]

7 hours ago, Globe Trotter said:

Neil Kilkenny for me 

All that pointing he did must have been exhausting. 

[The Humble Realist]

7 hours ago, Bristol Oil Services said:

You don't need "data," mate, you just need to know which one is "the first in in the morning, and the last to leave," and the one that stays out on the training pitch to practice a few more dead balls after all the others have gone inside.

Have you got that info ?

 

 

[Rocking Red Cyril]

To be quite honest I don't think any of the current squad work hard enough for me. No doubt others will think different 

[The Humble Realist]

22 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

To be quite honest I don't think any of the current squad work hard enough for me. No doubt others will think different 

I'm sure some dont but surely weimann works hard enough for you?

[Bristol Oil Services]

49 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

To be quite honest I don't think any of the current squad work hard enough for me. No doubt others will think different 

Thanks for being quite honest.

[Rocking Red Cyril]

42 minutes ago, The Humble Realist said:

I'm sure some dont but surely weimann works hard enough for you?

Yes the best for work rate out of the current squad 

[Offside]

Weimann stands out for me as well. He’s got a hell of an engine. 

I was always impressed with Aaron Wilbraham as well - the way he took a battering (and gave as good as he got) for the team. 

 

[Dolman_Stand]

Weimann, Brownhill, Korey Smith the most recent ones.

Murray used to put a shift in down the right in his heyday as did McIndoe when he was here. To be honest most of the GJ promotion and PO Final team did as individually we didn't have outstanding quality but they all worked hard for the cause.

[downendcity]

11 hours ago, Charlie BCFC said:

Lee Tomlin

Worked hard getting to the pie shop and the children's nanny!

 

 

 

[Oh Louie louie]

Rob Edwards he was a grafter and loved a tackle 

[johnheadbcfc]

17 hours ago, Moulin Rougier said:

Tony Dinning for me. Great engine on him. Prior to the permanent move of course. Once we were actually paying his contract, I don't think he moved out of the centre circle.

Will never forget him for this reason the difference I levels of performance was a joke 

[Murraysrightplum]

Whoever has been playing in goal?

[beaverface]

15 hours ago, stortfordred said:

Only comes second in the Neil Shipperley I Cannot Be Arsed Award

 

The winner...Neil Shipperley

I'm sure Stern John has a place in there somewhere !!

[stortfordred]

It's not necessarily about running; it is also about anticipation and knowing where to be (the right place at the right time). I'm not sure on James' stats but he is a very clever player in that respect-he saves himself unnecessary effort by reading the game well.

[Steve Watts]

In terms of the current squad I'll throw Nakhi Wells into the mix.  He worked so bloody hard to get himself into favour, requesting to be played in the u23's etc to showcase what he still had in him.  He almost always comes off absolutely knackered from the work he's put in on the pitch as well.

[Superjack]

Not recent times, but Liam Robinson used to work his socks off up front.

 

Couldn't score for s***, mind....

[pl00peh91]

Dele Adebola - for a man his size even just getting on the pitch in the first place must have been hard work!

[Lordofthebling]

2 hours ago, Steve Watts said:

In terms of the current squad I'll throw Nakhi Wells into the mix.  He worked so bloody hard to get himself into favour, requesting to be played in the u23's etc to showcase what he still had in him.  He almost always comes off absolutely knackered from the work he's put in on the pitch as well.

I am not his biggest fan, but I do agree on pure work rate.

Joe Williams may get a spot also for me, alongside obviously Andi.

[Not Banksy]

On 24/01/2023 at 11:08, Super said:

Current crop probably Conway and Weimann.

Agreed .. and they’re the two that are injured

[AshtonGreat]

On 24/01/2023 at 10:39, Oh Louie louie said:

Marvin Elliot for me he could get up and down

I can barely get up and down the stairs

[AppyDAZE]

On 24/01/2023 at 11:55, Charlie BCFC said:

Lee Tomlin

He was just hard work.

[BanburyRed]

22 hours ago, Superjack said:

Not recent times, but Liam Robinson used to work his socks off up front.

 

Couldn't score for s***, mind....

'Here's to you Liam Robinson' would've got my vote, too.

Edited January 26, 2023 by BanburyRed

[RoystonFoote'snephew]

On 24/01/2023 at 10:39, Oh Louie louie said:

Marvin Elliot for me he could get up and down

A perfect example of the OP point of a player who didn't have the ability to match his peers. Came as a full back and ended up in midfield where despite his efforts was too often found wanting. No doubt about his ability to get up and down but often by necessity as he lacked spacial awareness and continuously lost the man he was supposed to be marking as they ran off him with ease. 

Of recent hard working players Massengo fits the mould but like Elliot not always to great effect. Elliott was useful in the air though so did chip in with the odd goal. 

Edited January 26, 2023 by RoystonFoote'snephew
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[bcfcredandwhite]

John Stead used to work quite hard.

[SecretSam]

Special shout out from me for:

• Jon Stead - wasn't exactly welcomed with open arms, but was an absolute machine 
• Scott Murray, perhaps?
• For older viewers, Gary Shelton was literally unstoppable

Edited January 26, 2023 by SecretSam