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exAtyeoMax

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11 minutes ago, Marina's Rolls Royce said:

So today, I interviewed the full time Nursing carer who is going to be moving in to look after my Mum.

The subject of football was mentioned by me and it turned out that she is a fanatical MCFC supporter - long term ST holder.This was before the draw.

She has now sent me a pic of her car which she is gonna be taking my Mum in- shopping etc .

 

ADVICE NEEDED: WTF do I do??

 

 

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Get your mum a full kit…hat, scarf the lot

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Redtucks

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9 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said:

I mean there's no "would" about it. But hypothetically would you really let people buy a +1 for their 7 year old? It's not going to happen. It'll be one per ST, then members, then general sale.

Fair on the aways fans. I couldn't remember if it was 10% or 15%.

In my opinion first priority should go to those who bought for Swansea, but I know that's never a popular opinion.

Can't disagree.

But not all children are 7 years old.

I can see quite a few 10 or 11 year olds who would love to get their school mates tickets.

Just think that it could be tight, but who knows?

 

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ChippenhamRed

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18 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Christ, a lot of negative reaction to the initial post ?

 

Put it into context though, mate,

Clubs like Brighton and Brentford currently play in the Premier League and compete with top 6 sides regularly (both beating traditional top 6 sides this season). They wouldn't be excited about simply playing a top 6 team in the cup.

Clubs like Norwich and WBA regularly play in the Premier League and regularly have top 6 sides come their grounds. They wouldn't be THAT excited about simply playing a top 6 team in the cup.

Sure, it's an exciting tie. But to jump for joy because "WE GET TO PLAY MAN CITY!!!!" is a reaction you'd generally associate with a lower league team. It is a little bit tinpot.

Also, I rather hate the idea of my club potentially being humiliated on live TV.

No, but objectively (<< important word here!), I'm not convinced this is the best tie for the club for the reasons stated.

 

No idea if that's true mate, but generally in cup games I think the gate receipt is split 45% to each team and 10% to the FA.

I.E playing Man C away would be very good re gate receipts. Playing Man C at home is far worse re gate receipts.

Obviously that's softened a bit if we do get selected for TV coverage (no idea if your £300k is an accurate figure for that or not?)

Yep, clubs like Norwich, Brentford, Brighton and WBA are used to playing teams like this. We’re not. So it’s exciting, because it’s novel. Just as it would be for fans of many other clubs. What’s your point?

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Gillies Downs Leeds

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21 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

Christ, a lot of negative reaction to the initial post ?

 

Put it into context though, mate,

Clubs like Brighton and Brentford currently play in the Premier League and compete with top 6 sides regularly (both beating traditional top 6 sides this season). They wouldn't be excited about simply playing a top 6 team in the cup.

Clubs like Norwich and WBA regularly play in the Premier League and regularly have top 6 sides come their grounds. They wouldn't be THAT excited about simply playing a top 6 team in the cup.

Sure, it's an exciting tie. But to jump for joy because "WE GET TO PLAY MAN CITY!!!!" is a reaction you'd generally associate with a lower league team. It is a little bit tinpot.

Also, I rather hate the idea of my club potentially being humiliated on live TV.

No, but objectively (<< important word here!), I'm not convinced this is the best tie for the club for the reasons stated.

 

No idea if that's true mate, but generally in cup games I think the gate receipt is split 45% to each team and 10% to the FA.

I.E playing Man C away would be very good re gate receipts. Playing Man C at home is far worse re gate receipts.

Obviously that's softened a bit if we do get selected for TV coverage (no idea if your £300k is an accurate figure for that or not?)

It's not just the TV money, being on terrestrial TV it is the advertising revenue via electronic boards etc where some big money can be made.

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48 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

Just in case anyone was wondering how worried they are about playing us...

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/fa-cup-5th-round-draw-bristol-city-a.358387/

 

“Odds on them getting their first penalty in last year and a half against us!”


I like it 

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Supersonic Robin

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5 minutes ago, BCFC101 said:

I might be misunderstanding your point but isn't this exactly the reason why we should be allowed to be excited to play a top 6 team, given that we're not good enough to play them regularly? The whole idea of any sport is to take on and try to beat the best out there, and when those chances are few and far between like they are for us then surely your relish that opportunity as a whole club

See your point mate, but there's an important distinction IMO:

  • It's exciting to compete with top 6 teams.
  • It's not exciting to be battered by a top 6 team.

I'm very excited about the idea of becoming a top half premier league team a la Brighton, who can compete with such clubs.

I hate the idea of being hammered 6-0 on live TV.

In other words, it's the idea of becoming a club who can compete with the very best which is exciting, not the act of simply playing these clubs.

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20 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

What on earth were you doing in the bath, on a midweek afternoon?

Yes, totally agree!!!

Some of us were going through purgatory whilst we spent the rest of the game trying to get out of our own penalty area!!!

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Major Isewater

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16 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

I'm afraid not, I need to be there to watch our fans clap and cheer because they're "seeing Haaland" as he puts Man City 5-0 up ?

No one gave us a snowball’s chance in hell against the mighty Leeds Utd. 
No one gave us a cat in hell’s chance away to Liverpool.

No one seriously thought that we would beat Mourinho’s United, with superstars like Zlatan, World Cup winner Pogba and a host of top internationals .

This is the cup man. A packed Ashton Gate and highly motivated players can beat anyone. We may need a little luck but it is not impossible that we win. 

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3 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

See your point mate, but there's an important distinction IMO:

  • It's exciting to compete with top 6 teams.
  • It's not exciting to be battered by a top 6 team.

I'm very excited about the idea of becoming a top half premier league team a la Brighton, who can compete with such clubs.

I hate the idea of being hammered 6-0 on live TV.

In other words, it's the idea of becoming a club who can compete with the very best which is exciting, not the act of simply playing these clubs.

You’re assuming we’re going to get battered. Did you assume that last time we played them, when we took the lead at their place and remained in the tie until the very last kick of the second leg - and even had a chance to force extra time just before that?

The excitement comes not just from the stature of the opposition or the big occasion, but that tiny fraction of a possibility that we might cause an upset. That hope - however unlikely - is what football is all about! It feels like you don’t get it.

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12 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

In other words, it's the idea of becoming a club who can compete with the very best which is exciting, not the act of simply playing these clubs.

Thought we competed last time, beat one of them and gave the other a bit of a scare

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W-S-M Seagull

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21 minutes ago, Gillies Downs Leeds said:

It's not just the TV money, being on terrestrial TV it is the advertising revenue via electronic boards etc where some big money can be made.

We should get around 300k from TV. 

About the same from tickets too at least.

Then we get all the things like advertising, hospitality, merch, food and drink.

This one tie will easily net us at least 750k. 

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43 minutes ago, downendcity said:

Listening to Leeds v City - I did say in my original post. :)

I was at college back then.

 

I was still in school and, thanks to the late, great Beryl Fudge, managed to get a seat on one of the supporters club coaches.

I honestly can’t remember if the match was all ticket, but I remember standing on the terrace behind the goal, celebrating when Don Gillies scored by cheering and jumping up and down (for about two seconds ?) and then the hair raising walk back to the coach.

A truly wonderful day.

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Open End Numb Legs

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51 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

What on earth were you doing in the bath, on a midweek afternoon?

I have to say this result did stretch my memory to its limit. I was at the home game at AG but I reckon I didn't find out the score in the replay until I got home from school later that afternoon. One of those 'you know where you were when you heard the news' moments, but only just.

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On the discussion of how many fans they’ll give,  I noticed man United vs reading the other night there was just over 3k reading fans there - which as a % of the stadium capacity is tiny -75k I think .. I wonder how they figure it out and agree . I’d love them to give as few as possible and have as many fans behind atyeo as possible in red and white .. 

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Marina's Rolls Royce

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3 minutes ago, One Team said:

Surely it’s fixtures like this we live for? 

No one ever really remembers league games against mediocrity. 

Even now we still talk about the key Cup ties and play off games of the last 40 years and this could be another. 

Problem for us over the decades is that we absolutely do remember our mediocrity in league games.

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3 minutes ago, One Team said:

Surely it’s fixtures like this we live for? 

No one ever really remembers league games against mediocrity. 

Even now we still talk about the key Cup ties and play off games of the last 40 years and this could be another. 

Spot on. Absolutely nothing wrong with getting giddy with excitement over playing one of the best sides in Europe.

I'm a YTFC fan and although we've obviously spent almost all our history miles from the Prem (so the gap is bigger!), the days I look back on are the days where we had little or no chance of winning against the giants. Arsenal x 2, Liverpool, Man United x 2 and even some of the Championship sides we didn't have a prayer against. Once queueing out all night in the drizzle to get tickets for Liverpool at home.... these days literally don't come around very often so don't let anyone rain on your parade and say it's anything but fantastically exciting. 

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40 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

No one gave us a snowball’s chance in hell against the mighty Leeds Utd. 

I well remember the late Bill Shankly having to apologise when, after the draw for the next round was made (before the replay) he commented how exciting the next round would be and how much people would enjoy watching Liverpool away to Leeds.

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47 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

See your point mate, but there's an important distinction IMO:

  • It's exciting to compete with top 6 teams.
  • It's not exciting to be battered by a top 6 team.

I'm very excited about the idea of becoming a top half premier league team a la Brighton, who can compete with such clubs.

I hate the idea of being hammered 6-0 on live TV.

In other words, it's the idea of becoming a club who can compete with the very best which is exciting, not the act of simply playing these clubs.

Last time out it was 2-3. Certainly NOT a 6-0 thrashing. Play like we did on Saturday and I think we've got a great chance. 

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1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said:

You’re assuming we’re going to get battered. Did you assume that last time we played them, when we took the lead at their place and remained in the tie until the very last kick of the second leg - and even had a chance to force extra time just before that?

The excitement comes not just from the stature of the opposition or the big occasion, but that tiny fraction of a possibility that we might cause an upset. That hope - however unlikely - is what football is all about! It feels like you don’t get it.

I see where you're coming from mate, but I don't like our club & fans assuming the identity of 'minnows'.

My dream for City is for us to do what clubs like Brighton and Brentford have done - get to the Premier League, be able to compete with the best, and genuinely have a decent chance against top 6 teams. When Brighton beat Liverpool yesterday it wasn't seen as a massive upset or an amazing underdog story, it was seen as one respectable Premier League side beating another respectable Premier League side.

The opposite of that idea is what I allude to when I say "it's a little bit tinpot to get SO excited about simply playing Man City". To see ourselves as so weak and inferior that we're lucky to even share the same pitch as Manchester City - that's a bit embarrassing IMO. For some clubs that's the reality, but those clubs are generally in League 1 or League 2. Clubs like Brighton and Brentford are evidence that we are NOT one of those clubs.

We should be excited to be able to compete with Manchester City. We shouldn't be excited about simply playing Manchester City.

 

I think people have misunderstood my original post a little bit:

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited for the game. It'll be great to see Pep, KDB, Haaland, etc. If we win, it'll likely be one of the best City games I've been to. I'll be at the game and will be as passionate about the idea of a City win as anyone else in the stadium.

However, IMO the best tie for us would have been a home game against an objectively weak side (e.g. Fleetwood/Sheffield Wednesday). It would have given us a great chance of winning the match and earning approx £225,000 in prize money for doing so. At that point, I'd hope for a Quarter Final away to a 'big club' (assuming all the weaker sides than us had been knocked out). That away game would be a nice opportunity to visit a famous stadium, benefit from a huge gate receipt, and likely be on TV. We'd probably lose the match, but we'd have earned a fair bit of money for it.

So when I say "It's not objectively THAT good a tie for us*", that's what I mean. By meeting a 'big club' at least one round too early, and by meeting them at home, we could be missing out on a decent amount of money and/or a quarter final.

 

*(this might be overly negative. Perhaps "not objectively the ideal tie" would be more fair)

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1 minute ago, Will b11 said:

I’m heading to Barcelona on the Friday evening of that week, hopefully it doesn’t get arranged for then !

Man C seem to be playing on a Saturday on the weekends either side, so assume we’ll be playing on Tuesday or Wednesday?

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2 hours ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Agreed.

My only concern is that City give equal priority to new members signing up tonight alongside those of us who have been members for years.

Last time priority was tiered for members based on games attended - only fair to do the same again.

This is my fear too. As a member with semi regular attendance for many years  (but seldom enough to justify a season ticket) I think a tiered system is the only fair way to sell this game. New members signing up now should be in a third priority group. 

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1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said:

2 points that have been overlooked.

1. Just what do you do about A Block.

2. How much will they try and fleece people for who want to park by the cricket club?

Well it was £50 for the killers so you have all been warned, they are greedy b8888rds and will be rubbing their hands with glee, me and my two mates that used it regularly when it was a tenner stopped using it when it rose to £15 quid, they don't advertise now how much it is and hope people will be too embarrased to turn around once they are there.

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1 hour ago, Bristol Rob said:

2 points that have been overlooked.

1. Just what do you do about A Block.

2. How much will they try and fleece people for who want to park by the cricket club?

1. Set the prices the same all round the ground. Let anyone swap their seat for any non-reserved seat as they buy tickets.  i.e. you can buy your assigned seat or any non-assigned seat. At that point your assigned seat becomes free.

2. Double what you think and three times what they should be charging. #GetTheBusIfYouCan

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1 hour ago, Major Isewater said:

No one gave us a snowball’s chance in hell against the mighty Leeds Utd. 
No one gave us a cat in hell’s chance away to Liverpool.

No one seriously thought that we would beat Mourinho’s United, with superstars like Zlatan, World Cup winner Pogba and a host of top internationals .

This is the cup man. A packed Ashton Gate and highly motivated players can beat anyone. We may need a little luck but it is not impossible that we win. 

Well said!

Bring it on!

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45 minutes ago, E.G.Red said:

Last time out it was 2-3. Certainly NOT a 6-0 thrashing. Play like we did on Saturday and I think we've got a great chance. 

Unfortunately it is unlikely that Man City will play like West Brom did on Saturday.

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26 minutes ago, bcfcredandwhite said:

Me too mate - I’ll be in Benalmádena on the Costa Del Sol. 
Gutted. 
It will have to be a local sports bar with sangria and Mahou for €2 a pint instead…. ?

Always head to the Swan up at Bonanza square when I'm there to watch games it's a great place for a night out more bars and restaurants than you coud ever want most of them show football as well, I can think of worse places to be :laugh:.

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57 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

I fully suspect that Alex Scott is on a Man City watch list in some way. 

I think after this game, it's going to be impossible to keep hold of him beyond the summer if he impresses which I'm sure he will. 

Even after this game has sparked the rest of our season and we end up with a Playoff winners/FA Cup double?

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6 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Hope they sort out the ticketing so we can actually have our own seats. 

Jerry answered that question in the SLO section early December. Yes seats will be reserved for a set time if we get a good fifth round draw.

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