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4 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

No mention of any carers tickets? 

For the Swansea tie carers, with season tickets,  could  book a seat for free, as per their season ticket. This had to be done by telephone 

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42 minutes ago, Magger1 said:

Everyone wants Prem football but at Lidl prices ain’t going to happen plenty will want to see this so either support your team and wake up or go watch local football and fake off , it’s £22 to go and watch gas and that cheap 

Man City Season ticket holders got to watch them against Arsenal in the FA Cup, current league leaders, for £22.50 in their family stand and £25 in their South Stand.  So the top two in the country for ‘Lidl prices’. 

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2 minutes ago, lenred said:

Man City Season ticket holders got to watch them against Arsenal in the FA Cup, current league leaders, for £22.50 in their family stand and £25 in their South Stand.  So the top two in the country for ‘Lidl prices’. 

And we’ve had tickets for £5 ?

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8 minutes ago, pongo88 said:

For the Swansea tie carers, with season tickets,  could  book a seat for free, as per their season ticket. This had to be done by telephone 

…and also if you are a disabled / career season ticket holder you can phone up on Monday, as there is no online option.  You don’t have to wait til Wednesday.

That is usually the case anyway with cup games, but I checked with Jerry earlier for this game, just in case.

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8 minutes ago, lenred said:

Man City Season ticket holders got to watch them against Arsenal in the FA Cup, current league leaders, for £22.50 in their family stand and £25 in their South Stand.  So the top two in the country for ‘Lidl prices’. 

They have a 55k stadium to fill and their fans are used to a diet of Premier League and Champions League football, which they will paying a lot more than that for. Exactly like we reduce prices for less appealing early round cup games - just on a different scale.

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2 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

They have a 55k stadium to fill and their fans are used to a diet of Premier League and Champions League football, which they will paying a lot more than that for. Exactly like we reduce prices for less appealing early round cup games - just on a different scale.

They were playing the top team in the country.  Hardly ‘less appealing’. Unless you think the FA Cup is second rate? They look after their season ticket holders.  

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They were playing the top team in the country.  Hardly ‘less appealing’. Unless you think the FA Cup is second rate? 

Like it or not, the FA Cup is a less attractive competition than the Premier League or Champions League for elite clubs and their supporters. So, yes, in this example it is “second rate”. Arsenal’s team selection for the game also supports that theory.

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Just now, ChippenhamRed said:

Like it or not, the FA Cup is a less attractive competition than the Premier League or Champions League for elite clubs and their supporters. So, yes, in this example it is “second rate”. Arsenal’s team selection for the game also supports that theory.

It’s not second rate at all.  And I bet you Man City sell out their allocation - which they wouldn’t if it was. Happy to bet the cost of a SS ticket on that - money goes to a charity of the winners choice.   

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To the fans that moaned when Semenyo went and the fans that will moan when Scott goes YOU ARE THE REASON .if you don’t invest in the TEAM like lansdown has invested in us , then we will remain tin pot , some time you gotta dig deeper and for a cause you so say support YES SUPPORT that’s what it means to be a supporter 

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26 minutes ago, lenred said:

It’s not second rate at all.  And I bet you Man City sell out their allocation - which they wouldn’t if it was. Happy to bet the cost of a SS ticket on that - money goes to a charity of the winners choice.   

Of course they’ll sell out their allocation! It’s not hard for a club of Manchester City’s size to sell 4000-odd tickets. That doesn’t mean the FA Cup has the same appeal as the Premier League or Champions League.

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21 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

Of course they’ll sell out their allocation! It’s not hard for a club of Manchester City’s size to sell 4000-odd tickets. That doesn’t mean the FA Cup has the same appeal as the Premier League or Champions League.

Right.   So it’s a second rate competition but they will easily sell out 4000 tickets to a seven hour round trip, midweek game against a team that is near the bottom of the league below them?       Just like we would easily sell out our a JPL 5th round game away against Salford or Oldham or Stockport on a February Tuesday night  I guess? (our second hand cup equivalent for many years). Ok mate…….

Why not just admit it? It’s not second rate at all. They respect this cup massively (same with the League Cup).   And they treated their season ticket holders well by offering them discounted priced tickets in the same competition against the current top team in the country.  Maybe because you aren’t a season ticket holder yourself? 
 

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18 minutes ago, lenred said:

Right.   So it’s a second rate competition but they will easily sell out 4000 tickets to a seven hour round trip, midweek game against a team that is near the bottom of the league below them?       Just like we would easily sell out our a JPL 5th round game away against Salford or Oldham or Stockport on a February Tuesday night  I guess? (our second hand cup equivalent for many years). Ok mate…….

Why not just admit it? It’s not second rate at all. They respect this cup massively (same with the League Cup).   And they treated their season ticket holders well by offering them discounted priced tickets in the same competition against the current top team in the country.  Maybe because you aren’t a season ticket holder yourself? 
 

But one key fact you forgot to mention @lenredthe prices you mentioned are for season ticket holders who joined an ADDITIONAL cup scheme to guarantee that price. 

You need to provide a bit of balance and context to your point rather than quoting an extreme, other match prices were more expensive than what we are charging 

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8 minutes ago, lenred said:

Right.   So it’s a second rate competition but they will easily sell out 4000 tickets to a seven hour round trip, midweek game against a team that is near the bottom of the league below them?       Just like we would easily sell out our a JPL 5th round game away against Salford or Oldham or Stockport on a February Tuesday night  I guess? (our second hand cup equivalent for many years). Ok mate…….

Why not just admit it? It’s not second rate at all. They respect this cup massively (same with the League Cup).   And they treated their season ticket holders well by offering them discounted priced tickets in the same competition against the current top team in the country.  Maybe because you aren’t a season ticket holder yourself? 
 

This is such a shit argument.

We wouldn’t sell out a JPL away game because it’s even less appealing than the FA Cup, we have a smaller fan base than Manchester City, and it’s not a remotely attractive fixture.

It’s all relative. It’s a bizarre hill to die on to claim that the FA Cup has as much appeal to elite club supporters as the Premier League or Champions League. It simply doesn’t and this isn’t controversial. But big clubs like Manchester City can still sell their allocation because they have enough fans who want to be there.

They “treated” their supporters to discounted tickets for an FA Cup game because it’s not as big a game for them as league fixture. Arsenal isn’t a big deal for them - they play them all the time. Just like we were “treated” to discount tickets for the West Brom game - who we play all the time. Same principle, at a lower level. This really isn’t hard to grasp.

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1 minute ago, phantom said:

All very well using Man City as an example but how many other Premier league teams sold cheaper tickets? 

You need to provide a bit of balance and context to your point rather than quoting an extreme 

I think a match between the top two teams country, in the same competition, on television and within weeks of our game, provides plenty of context.  
Anyway I’m going down a rabbit hole here which I shouldn’t have as what I think or anyone else thinks the price is the price.   I simply think season ticket holders should have got a discounted price compared to day trippers.   That is  all.  Good night ??

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4 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

This is such a shit argument.

We wouldn’t sell out a JPL away game because it’s even less appealing than the FA Cup, we have a smaller fan base than Manchester City, and it’s not a remotely attractive fixture.

It’s all relative. It’s a bizarre hill to die on to claim that the FA Cup has as much appeal to elite club supporters as the Premier League or Champions League. It simply doesn’t and this isn’t controversial. But big clubs like Manchester City can still sell their allocation because they have enough fans who want to be there.

They “treated” their supporters to discounted tickets for an FA Cup game because it’s not as big a game for them as league fixture. Arsenal isn’t a big deal for them - they play them all the time. Just like we were “treated” to discount tickets for the West Brom game - who we play all the time. Same principle, at a lower level. This really isn’t hard to grasp.

It’s not.  But thanks for the compliment. ?

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4 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said:

They “treated” their supporters to discounted tickets for an FA Cup game because it’s not as big a game for them as league fixture. Arsenal isn’t a big deal for them - they play them all the time. Just like we were “treated” to discount tickets for the West Brom game - who we play all the time. Same principle, at a lower level. This really isn’t hard to grasp.

 

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I think a match between the top two teams country, in the same competition, on television and within weeks of our game, provides plenty of context.  
Anyway I’m going down a rabbit hole here which I shouldn’t have as what I think or anyone else thinks the price is the price.   I simply think season ticket holders should have got a discounted price compared to day trippers.   That is  all.  Good night ??

Sorry I edited my reply as you were trying 

The reason Manchester City charged those prices was for season ticket holders who had ADDITIONALLY joined a cup scheme that guarantees a price of £25

Other season ticket holders etc paid more than what we are being asked to pay 

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48 minutes ago, lenred said:

Right.   So it’s a second rate competition but they will easily sell out 4000 tickets to a seven hour round trip, midweek game against a team that is near the bottom of the league below them?       Just like we would easily sell out our a JPL 5th round game away against Salford or Oldham or Stockport on a February Tuesday night  I guess? (our second hand cup equivalent for many years). Ok mate…….

Why not just admit it? It’s not second rate at all. They respect this cup massively (same with the League Cup).   And they treated their season ticket holders well by offering them discounted priced tickets in the same competition against the current top team in the country.  Maybe because you aren’t a season ticket holder yourself? 
 

When we played Man.Utd there was a guy interviewing "supporters" coming out of the away end and the majority were from Bristol but professing to be Man.Utd supporters. I would guess that a good proportion of Man.City "supporters" will be from Bristol when we play them.

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Some People talk utter shit on this forum

We need the money. Johnson blew it all ably supported by a bevy of individuals that have brought the club to a possible points deduction. We have had to sell our best player to balance the books but the club can make some money by a freak FA Cup run and a game against the current champions……Anyone arguing at this point?! 

Supply and demand applies here! If City can make some extra money, not only will they, they have to. I get it as does the club, fifty quid is a lot of money and some are priced out of it, but if they don’t the club are negligent in their fiduciary duty


I get it, once I had no extra cash and life was difficult and that applies to some. But here we are. It’s on the Telly if you can’t won’t pay. The bankroll days have finished we have all got to suck it up and hope this helps towards a new player or not getting into any further trouble  

 

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10 hours ago, Magger1 said:

Look it’s like I said earlier if you can show me west end show or a top live band where the tickets are under £50 let alone watching the English champions the let I know , people choose their seats because it’s the best they can afford well if your centre of lansdown and it’s £35 a game to watch Rotherham then surely you expect to pay £15 more for Manchester City it’s a bit like watching the Wurzels or oasis ? 

To be fair - watching City isn’t like watching a West End Show 

Id say it was more like a Pantomime half the time ?

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Not sure I get some of the moaning, any season ticket holder can get an adult seat for £30 in the family area with kids from £15, or £38 in the South Stand, I don't think the club has gone OTT on pricing for such a big game. It means you may move seat to save money, but can do that when you book.

If money is tight as this is an extra game you have not budgeted for, spend the money on more important things and watch it free on the telly.

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9 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

When we played Man.Utd there was a guy interviewing "supporters" coming out of the away end and the majority were from Bristol but professing to be Man.Utd supporters. I would guess that a good proportion of Man.City "supporters" will be from Bristol when we play them.

I would suggest you are wrong

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9 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

When we played Man.Utd there was a guy interviewing "supporters" coming out of the away end and the majority were from Bristol but professing to be Man.Utd supporters. I would guess that a good proportion of Man.City "supporters" will be from Bristol when we play them.

Of course there will be some but nothing like the United game.

Two very different clubs, City are a proper Manchester club, United are very much a world wide club.

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1 hour ago, Andy082005 said:

To be fair - watching City isn’t like watching a West End Show 

Id say it was more like a Pantomime half the time ?

Oh no it isn’t!  And when was the last time you heard any fan shout “he’s behind you” to Zak Vyner.

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This match is going to cost quite a bit for me, coach travel, yha, and going to the hairdressers to get my hair highlighted before the game. #coverallgrey.

shame the match tickets aren’t a bit cheaper, but I’ll just have to make do with a Tesco sandwich instead of pizza in the H&C or the chicken katsu at the Gate.

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43 minutes ago, Super said:

I don't think these tickets are too bad tbh considering what you would pay to watch the likes of games against Rotherham etc

 

 

What may shift your reference point is the fact our ticket prices are high in the first instance..

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10 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said:

This match is going to cost quite a bit for me, coach travel, yha, and going to the hairdressers to get my hair highlighted before the game. #coverallgrey.

shame the match tickets aren’t a bit cheaper, but I’ll just have to make do with a Tesco sandwich instead of pizza in the H&C or the chicken katsu at the Gate.

Good effort, I reckon you deserve a free cider at least. 

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I do tend to agree that it's expensive if one is a young married person with children, rising interest mortgages, on a below average wage and so on. If it's a spend too far, grin and bear it, at least it's live on TV.

I'm fortunate to have enough pensions at 79 years to have some spare money for my ticket. The price is small compared with the match I will see four days before the Man City game. I bought it on the basis that it might be the last time I'm able to get to Cardiff to see Wales thumping England. £125. I can't take it with me and I don't think they play football or rugby where I will finish up. It's too hot!

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8 hours ago, REDOXO said:

Some People talk utter shit on this forum

We need the money. Johnson blew it all ably supported by a bevy of individuals that have brought the club to a possible points deduction. We have had to sell our best player to balance the books but the club can make some money by a freak FA Cup run and a game against the current champions……Anyone arguing at this point?! 

Supply and demand applies here! If City can make some extra money, not only will they, they have to. I get it as does the club, fifty quid is a lot of money and some are priced out of it, but if they don’t the club are negligent in their fiduciary duty


I get it, once I had no extra cash and life was difficult and that applies to some. But here we are. It’s on the Telly if you can’t won’t pay. The bankroll days have finished we have all got to suck it up and hope this helps towards a new player or not getting into any further trouble  

 

So the fans have to suffer for the club’s poor management?

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16 minutes ago, cidered abroad said:

I do tend to agree that it's expensive if one is a young married person with children, rising interest mortgages, on a below average wage and so on. If it's a spend too far, grin and bear it, at least it's live on TV.

I'm fortunate to have enough pensions at 79 years to have some spare money for my ticket. The price is small compared with the match I will see four days before the Man City game. I bought it on the basis that it might be the last time I'm able to get to Cardiff to see Wales thumping England. £125. I can't take it with me and I don't think they play football or rugby where I will finish up. It's too hot!

It’s true, all live events, sport, music, comedy is so expensive nowadays.

I was lucky enough to get an Ashes 5th test ticket for the Oval in July, ridiculous price I can’t even bring myself to write how much but it’s something I really wanted to do.

It does make you wonder if/when we get to the promised land how many will be priced out from ever seeing City live. 

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2 minutes ago, ralphindevon said:

It’s true, all live events, sport, music, comedy is so expensive nowadays.

I was lucky enough to get an Ashes 5th test ticket for the Oval in July, ridiculous price I can’t even bring myself to write how much but it’s something I really wanted to do.

It does make you wonder if/when we get to the promised land how many will be priced out from ever seeing City live. 

Yep. And refreshments too. They were charging £6.80 a pint when I went to see Elton John at Ashton Gate. Awful really

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While the regular attendee will know that there has been a price hike, a lot of "day trippers" will look at those prices as being very fair. 

There will be a lot of local supporters who watch Manchester City on TV or spend good money to go to Manchester and watch them, they will be keen to get these tickets. 

The club are being pragmatic, but actually I think the prices are reasonable. 

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3 minutes ago, AshtonGreat said:

Yep. And refreshments too. They were charging £6.80 a pint when I went to see Elton John at Ashton Gate. Awful really

Crikey! Can you still get season card discount? I’m going to see the Arctic Monkeys in May.

And at cricket you’re there for 7 or 8 hours and can’t take any alcohol in so you’ve no choice. 

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Crikey! Can you still get season card discount? I’m going to see the Arctic Monkeys in May.

And at cricket you’re there for 7 or 8 hours and can’t take any alcohol in so you’ve no choice. 

I can’t remember about the s/t discount to be honest. Wow, it must be an expensive day out at the cricket

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Yep. And refreshments too. They were charging £6.80 a pint when I went to see Elton John at Ashton Gate. Awful really

At that price, everyone would 'still be standing'.

Reading the replies, no one has said they won't pay these inflated prices, it's a case of feeling exploited because of the opposition.

As for the argument about 'if we were in the Prem', that's kinda weak, we aren't in the Prem. There will only be one top flight side at Ashton Gate for the cup game.

I didn't expect to pay what I did against Lincoln or West Brom, I just think the club have pushed the envelope on what they think people will accept. So yes, I'll pay for a ticket but it doesn't mean I need to be happy about the cost.

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6 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

While the regular attendee will know that there has been a price hike, a lot of "day trippers" will look at those prices as being very fair. 

There will be a lot of local supporters who watch Manchester City on TV or spend good money to go to Manchester and watch them, they will be keen to get these tickets. 

The club are being pragmatic, but actually I think the prices are reasonable. 

Yeah I’ve no problem with the club’s pricing, it’s pretty much the going rate.

it’s just the going rate is too much for the many that are struggling atm.

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At that price, everyone would 'still be standing'.

Reading the replies, no one has said they won't pay these inflated prices, it's a case of feeling exploited because of the opposition.

As for the argument about 'if we were in the Prem', that's kinda weak, we aren't in the Prem. There will only be one top flight side at Ashton Gate for the cup game.

I didn't expect to pay what I did against Lincoln or West Brom, I just think the club have pushed the envelope on what they think people will accept. So yes, I'll pay for a ticket but it doesn't mean I need to be happy about the cost.

Yes precisely. The club have pushed the envelope because they know they’ll fill the ground even at inflated prices. Considering how faithful the fans have been over the years, despite how little the club has delivered on the pitch in the last four decades, it doesn’t exactly show much goodwill IMO.

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9 minutes ago, Port Said Red said:

While the regular attendee will know that there has been a price hike, a lot of "day trippers" will look at those prices as being very fair. 

There will be a lot of local supporters who watch Manchester City on TV or spend good money to go to Manchester and watch them, they will be keen to get these tickets. 

The club are being pragmatic, but actually I think the prices are reasonable. 

It might also put day-trippers off from going again if they don't have going to football as part of their regular spend and think that those prices are quite normal and the chances of them being more regular supporters diminishes.

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6 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said:

It might also put day-trippers off from going again if they don't have going to football as part of their regular spend and think that those prices are quite normal and the chances of them being more regular supporters diminishes.

I don't think so, there is money about even with the current state of the economy. I appreciate that some will find it tough, but I don't think that's as many as others think.

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46 minutes ago, Super said:

Totally agree 

£3,000 per month just to exist (mortgage, utility, council tax) in a decent but in no spectacular family house in a decent but in no way spectacular area. 

£50 is absolutely nothing in comparison and £20 is less than nothing. Theatre you wouldn't get a good seat for less than £100. Live music is the same tier of performance/fame as Man City is hundreds. 

Some people appear to be living in the 1980s in terms of costs. The reference has changed.

 

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31 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said:

£3,000 per month just to exist (mortgage, utility, council tax) in a decent but in no spectacular family house in a decent but in no way spectacular area. 

£50 is absolutely nothing in comparison and £20 is less than nothing. Theatre you wouldn't get a good seat for less than £100. Live music is the same tier of performance/fame as Man City is hundreds. 

Some people appear to be living in the 1980s in terms of costs. The reference has changed.

 

I'd imagine the people that cough up 3k per month to live in their decent set up will be fine finding the £45 for tye game. The families struggling to pay half that each month will be priced out of the game, or theatre etc 

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They've calculated that for every STH/regular attendee who thinks it's too much and refuses to pay it, there's at least one person who may not ordinarily be able to get a ticket that will pay it. And that most of the people who think it's too much will still pay up anyway because they don't want to miss it.

They'll be right too.

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